(now for a opinion/statement... don't take this as a negative, the progress being made is great and all the Devs are doing one heck of a job)
ICS is the new hotness and everyone wants it... but it seems that getting it running properly is probably going to take a lot of work and time. (Tbolt still has no data for example)
That is why I am hopping for a GB port. (CM7 for example) In theory, it should be much easier to port that over than ICS right?
We can have some GB AOSP goodness to hold us over until all the kernel problems and other issues with ICS are worked out.
Now if we can get the major bits working on ICS then this is moot. As long as data, wifi, and the phone works, I can handle a few bugs and a few random reboots.
(Once again not trying to be negative or knock down the achievements being made these last few days. I have been following the threads every chance I get.)
So a question to you guys out there... what do you think?
Both are going to take a large amount of time to achieve. Seeing as we have maybe 1 AOSP GB kernel, and I'm not even sure if that works. Also the whole issue with CM7 was the RIL thanks to LTE and that took awhile for the Tbolt to iron out. Also our phone is likely to get an offical release for ICS sooner than the tbolt, and probably will be easier to adapt. Who knows it could take less time and effort this time around to get a functioning RIL. But in my eyes why would they want to dump time into CM7 especially when theres the chance for pure AOSP ICS/Sense ICS on our devices? It's not like our phones don't run great w/ the sense roms at the moment. Only thing irritating me are the bootlops w/ the kernels. Not sure if thats voltage or software stability.. Honestly at this point it would be more wise to put focus onto ICS development. With ALL the improvements that ICS offers would be foolish to stick on GB.
From what I just read in another kernel, data would be an issue regardless.
I was thinking that GB would be easier to get working. If not, then there is no need.
ICS is definitely the way to go.
Data is the usual issue when dealing with these kinds of ports. I'm not sure if anyone is working on a GB AOSP rom, or even if theyre bothering to port CM7. From what I've hard the RIL can be a real pain in the ass.
Figured that sort of thing would be made robust to make it easier to get on many different devices.
You'd think so but software fragmentation is a monster in it's own. But hopefully with ICS we will truly have a unified platform this time around.
Right now they are doing what they can. The real magic will happen after we get the ics update and the ics kernel source.
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I dont know about everyone else, but my phone is running just fine on GB, GingerSense to be exact (and ran fine stock). I think at this point ICS is more of a fanboy thing. All these people want to hop on the bandwagon because it's the newest thing, without even proof it's really going to make the Android experience that much better. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something?
There is proof, it is called the Galaxy Nexus.
ICS will be worth the wait just to get the second core in our dual-core phones running.
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ICS will be worth the wait just to get the second core in our dual-core phones running.
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We're only running on one core now?
Superguy said:
We're only running on one core now?
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It acts more like an overflow core. Honeycomb and ICS are optimized for dual core.
Just like root came, this will come too, in time. I can wait for now.
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There is proof, it is called the Galaxy Nexus.
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I have yet to hear of any ICS specific function that makes the Nexus so much better of an experience to the point that I must have ICS asap.
Marine6680 said:
That is why I am hopping for a GB port. (CM7 for example) In theory, it should be much easier to port that over than ICS right?
We can have some GB AOSP goodness to hold us over until all the kernel problems and other issues with ICS are worked out.
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+1!!
bring on cm7
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I have yet to hear of any ICS specific function that makes the Nexus so much better of an experience to the point that I must have ICS asap.
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There is nothing special about the Nexus, per se, but ICS brings further hardware acceleration and dual-core optimization. The Rezound runs rock-solid on GB, but it will be unbelievable on ICS.
Beyond that, I like the re-sizeable and scrollable widgets that are stock-ICS, which brings a great feature to people who use launchers without that ability. And ICS has some really slick widget-updates to YouTube and Gallery, among others. Not to mention finally getting an Email and Gmail widget, although they failed in not having a universal widget for all messages.
How about the fact that ics actually has a design identity and looks decent. Sense gingerbread is horrible.
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I love it on my captivate. Runs smooth as silk
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How about the fact that ics actually has a design identity and looks decent. Sense gingerbread is horrible.
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To each his own. I've always liked how sense looks
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Scroslers ICS is running pretty damn smooth including data, wifi etc
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Nobody should be surprised.
iPhone > *
Oh well better late then don't getting it at all. If you really want ICS already then just run an custom rom with ICS.
Just pointing out, the OP is in Moscow...the email from HTC was directed at a Moscow user. Europe's rollout will be on a different schedule, and America's will be on yet a different schedule. Rollout will not be on the same date worldwide.
and i think the device list gets them first, in order
so EVO3d is like, second last ?
It's insane to me that the custom ROM community can produce multiple ICS ROMs without access to any of HTCs resources well before HTC can release a single ROM.
I can only think of 3 possibilities:
They have less than one person (per device) working full-time on the updates.
HTC employs the worst developers on the planet.
They wont let release ICS updates until they've sold new phones with ICS for a couple months.
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Just pointing out, the OP is in Moscow...the email from HTC was directed at a Moscow user. Europe's rollout will be on a different schedule, and America's will be on yet a different schedule. Rollout will not be on the same date worldwide.
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Don't GSM users usually get ICS first? I think the Sensation and SGS2 GSM users got ICS first.
Mine and Knowledge's team will win! Take that to bank
On another note, I was hoping Slaughter's team would win
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It's insane to me that the custom ROM community can produce multiple ICS ROMs without access to any of HTCs resources well before HTC can release a single ROM.
I can only think of 3 possibilities:
They have less than one person (per device) working full-time on the updates.
HTC employs the worst developers on the planet.
They wont let release ICS updates until they've sold new phones with ICS for a couple months.
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Custom roms are still not feature complete.
Think most people here have given up hope to get ICS before Jellybean drops. ICS been out over six months already, HTC suk; never again.
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They wont let release ICS updates until they've sold new phones with ICS for a couple months.
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This is the obvious and relevant reason for me
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DexterMorganNL said:
Custom roms are still not feature complete.
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The only reason they aren't feature complete is because of closed source HTC drivers.
Anyway, I really don't think that takes away from my argument. HTC will release ICS once they are sure it will not hurt sales of new devices. It's also the reason we wont see Sense 4.0.
It can't be time or cost effective to build ICS with Sense 3.6 and ICS with Sense 4.0. There is little in Sense that is hardware dependent. It's ICS that needs to support the hardware. It would make more sense to have one code base with slight variations for each device.
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This is the obvious and relevant reason for me
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So what about the Vivid getting ICS before the OneXL is released on ATT???....
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So what about the Vivid getting ICS before the OneXL is released on ATT???....
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I don't know. Maybe AT&T made them do it, so they could have a flagship ICS phone like Verizon. If that's not the reason, what possible incompetence would cause it to take this long. Maybe they just don't give a ****...
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I don't know. Maybe AT&T made them do it, so they could have a flagship ICS phone like Verizon. If that's not the reason, what possible incompetence would cause it to take this long. Maybe they just don't give a ****...
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maybe its not so easy upgrading all these different devices to ICS as some make it out to be?....Not to even mention the ones that have to go through carrier approval too...
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It's insane to me that the custom ROM community can produce multiple ICS ROMs without access to any of HTCs resources well before HTC can release a single ROM.
I can only think of 3 possibilities:
They have less than one person (per device) working full-time on the updates.
HTC employs the worst developers on the planet.
They wont let release ICS updates until they've sold new phones with ICS for a couple months.
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If one of our devs release a buggy rom we tell them and they can fix it because we're understanding.
But if a carrier releases a buggy rom they get sued and lose customers, and also give the particular device a bad name
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I ended up giving my girlfriend my Evo3D and switching back to my old Samsung Epic 4G (the slider one) - it's slower, bulkier and has less memory but damn ICS runs smooth on it and everything works. 4G, Cam, etc... I have yet to have a single issue after 2 weeks of heavy use.
Even still, I miss my Evo3D but not enough to go back to using gingerbread.
Whatever. I'll be getting the evo 4g lte soon anyway. I'll get by with mikrunny until then.
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I'm still happy with Sense 3.5. I honestly don't get why many people are so desperate in having ICS.
If it's ready for our device then we will get the update, but I can not think off many things that need ICS. And if you willing to lose the 3D feature and camera then I suggest flash Virtuous S4V Beta2.
Biggest bugs are: 3D not working and camera, rest everything works. But I'm not willing to lose features just for having already ICS.
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But if a carrier releases a buggy rom they get sued
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Really?? I think you are wrong. Sprint 6 months ago released the GB rom for the OPTIMUS S. That "update" borked the charging, ear piece volume and other things. Sprint had to PULL THE UPDATE and have customers DOWNGRADE their phones back to Froyo. Sprint didn't get sued considering that rom was buggy as hell. They actually JUST re-released the update starting yesterday.
Credits to febycv
check it out for yourselves
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-now-on-aosp-based-ics-roms/
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Thanks for the post, But right now we don't even have a fully working AOSP rom, and this only works on an AOSP rom!! Wish it worked on sense, does it work? have you tried it on 3.6?
the voice search does not work in the app
typed searches are just fine however
seansk said:
Thanks for the post, But right now we don't even have a fully working AOSP rom, and this only works on an AOSP rom!! Wish it worked on sense, does it work? have you tried it on 3.6?
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No CM9 on the Amaze??? Thought someone said they did it over here... huh
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seriously I just bought my phone in november!!! I feel like my phone is like 3 years old already. I though google said they weren't going to go crazy coming out with major updates so fast. After my amaze I'm going back to a google flagship phone and staying with it!! As much as I have come to grow and love sense, I think I'll be able to get many of sense features with third party apps and many roms that will be developed for google flagship phones! I love my amaze, but I hate HTC and all other cell phone manufacturers, It took them 6 months to give us ICS, samsung wasn't that great about the update either. I think there's also a clause that forces cell phone manufacturers to provide updates to phones up to 18 months. I read that recently somewhere! so hopefully we'll see some version of jellybean on our amaze, it's not that big of a leap from ICS, but does have some very good features that I really would like to have.
We're close to getting Pure ICS AOSP or AOKP on our phones, I don't think jellybean update will be much harder. I think going from GB to ICS was a major overhaul thus taking companies, Cyanogenmod, and many devlopers months to perfect ICS. Jelly bean is not the case. It more like going from Froyo to GB.
Let's cross our fingers. I already want to throw my phone out away, and It's only been like 8 months since I got it!! This is just ridiculous.
Nope, running nightmare sense. Having the same issues as just about everybody else. I think Sportsstar has a aokp(wip). Can't be sure.
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No CM9 on the Amaze??? Thought someone said they did it over here... huh
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lulz...
HTC Incredible S
Does this method also work for my HTC Incredibile S with Sense 3.6 and Android 4.0.4? Thanks for the answer
aluli95 said:
Does this method also work for my HTC Incredibile S with Sense 3.6 and Android 4.0.4? Thanks for the answer
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it should... its technically universal as long as your running ics. which you are. so try it out
On Energy ROM, and just installed this following the instructions in the original thread. Works great.
So I'm on stock ICS and I can't even find this in the market? What's the point of having a google phone if we can't use google software? I don't get it.
Because it is a feature of Android JellyBean modified to be used on our Ice Cream Sandwich phones...
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BTW Google Now is working great for me. It gives me a heads up when I need to leave for work with traffic information. It also knows when I usually go to the gym and gives me information when it is time. Kind of freaky but I like it
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BTW Google Now is working great for me. It gives me a heads up when I need to leave for work with traffic information. It also knows when I usually go to the gym and gives me information when it is time. Kind of freaky but I like it
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I still don't really get how Google Now really works, esp since it's hacked onto our ICS devices. So do you have the google search bar as a widget on your home screen and the cards show up automatically?
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I still don't really get how Google Now really works, esp since it's hacked onto our ICS devices. So do you have the google search bar as a widget on your home screen and the cards show up automatically?
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Yeah you can have the widget or press the capacitive search key, those are taken over by Now. All searches go through Now but it is seamless and not a big deal.
They had problems working in the voice search as the JB and ICS voice APIs are different. The work around was a modification to input voice to text using ICS voice engine and inputting it into JB.
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Download link?
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BTW Google Now is working great for me. It gives me a heads up when I need to leave for work with traffic information. It also knows when I usually go to the gym and gives me information when it is time. Kind of freaky but I like it
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So I've been using this for about a week and the only cards it shows me is the weather. Do I have to ask for it to show me the traffic consistantly for it to work? I don't get this...lol kinda feel noobish.
do you have gps on? i find that it starts remembering similar locations and then the cards start showing up.
If not you can go into latitude and update address
Installed the official CM9 two nights ago and I really can't find anything more than nitpicking at this point. Sure the home screen transition is still not quite as smooth as my wife's iPhone 4, but it is smooth enough and all the apps/games I have tried are fast enough, battery life is also incredible as I got over 4 hours screen time on wifi for my first full charge.
I have compared my device against Galaxy S3 and HTC One X, and there is no question the performance difference at this point is not worth the extra screen size to me. It is really amazing what a cohesive (no touchwiz dialer + ICS task manager mesh mash, CM9 is completely refined!) and bloat free experience CM9 is. Even the official ICS ROM after de-bloating still has too many Samsung applications for my taste.
More importantly, mobile phone applications are not desktop programs, you are not going to run Photoshop or Visual Studio on your Galaxy Note, you are not likely to play Crisis. I really believe dual core for mobile phone is very very similar to core 2 duo on desktops, that once you reach a certain level of performance, you just don't need any more upgrades. My wife and I both have 5 year old core 2 duo's and with a very modest Nvidia 9600 GT, I can still play most if not all of the mainstream games. Sure I can't play them at highest graphic details, but I can still enjoy Skyrim or Diablo 3.
I think the exact scenario is happening to mobile devices. All the top apps/games have to cater to the lowest common denominator, unless you are super hardcore, you will be satisfied. In the past people had to upgrade for performance, but I don't think it is the case anymore. I will wait out the full two year contract and pick up Note 2 when it is on sale for a discount, unless there is a hardware failure. And I think manufacturers will also see the same problem, that it will be harder and harder to get existing users to upgrade.
A big thank you to the developers! The Cyanogen team is amazing!
Im gonna be flashing tomorrow cm9 cant wait
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Ya, cm has always been nice. They usually have that extra bit of polish and professionalism. Aokp is decent too.
As far as buying new devices, there will always be people wanting to upgrade to the latest and greatest even if what they have is still completely adequate. Being an EE technology major, I'm one of those people who will buy new stuff just because I love technology. And Moore's law says it will keep getting better lol. If I can ever get a fng job, I'll definitely buy the note 2 if its awesome enough.
Everyone has computers, but most people never upgrade them to keep up with the times, they wait til they've crippled it after a few years then buy a new one. I've gotten so many nice computers that were "broken" from people, only to open them up, clean them out, reinstall whatever os I need and have it be perfectly fine for years. Usually just a fan or seating issue with some hardware.
Sidetracked, sorry.
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I also fell in love with my device again. It is much faster with CM9 and I don't need anything more. The OC kernel makes it fly. I can't make it lag. Transitions are buttery smooth. I can't wait until JB or CM10. A whole new device with touchwiz gone. Don't even miss the s pen
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On every android phone I've had I always ended up putting cm on it, it's just so much better than stock
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Here's mine
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What's your brightness level on?
After debloating and installing trebuchet launcher, I think stock runs just as well as cm9
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Upgraded last night after a clean wipe. I like it save for I cannot uninstall ROM manager, and I can't run soft keys. Other than that you couldn't pay me to keep it. I'll be moving to the iPhone 5 and the Note 2 as fast as I can. I absolutely despise the old style hard keys. They are a crime against humanity and must be removed in the Note 2. Full screen or death!!
where is official cm9?
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where is official cm9?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767889
I saw this thread regarding CM9, but it looks like they only have beta-ish nightlies available. Haven't tried them myself.
I installed h0tw1r3's CM9 based ROM (here) and it is really beautiful.
I wanted to add that I completely agree with OP. This is my first Android phone, and I knew the power of custom ROM's in the past from using Windows Mobile 5/6. I tried several that were all pretty nice, but coming across the CM9 ROM, I feel like it really lives up to the hype. Gorgeous, polished, fast as hell!
Thanks to CM team and XDA, you guys rock.
Yeah I was under the impression that there was nothing official yet.
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I also fell in love with my device again. It is much faster with CM9 and I don't need anything more. The OC kernel makes it fly. I can't make it lag. Transitions are buttery smooth. I can't wait until JB or CM10. A whole new device with touchwiz gone. Don't even miss the s pen
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So is cm9 ics with OC kernel?
They still haven't done audio through USB yet have they?
Sent from the Galaxy!
"I installed h0tw1r3's CM9 ROM and it is beautiful"
I am always amazed at how CM9 has the extra little touches that make a phone really work optimally like wake on volume, put screen to sleep[in notification pull down], included toggles, etc. For some reason unknown to me other ROM developers never include most of these but IMHO they make the Note really useful.
So why is there nothing on their website if this is official? Not a final release?
Also, does the cm team run on donations just like must devs?
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I think CM9 is not ready for prime time on the note. Checking the use internal SD in the storage setting forces it into a boot loop. Definely will have to wait until fixed. This is for the 7-16 nightly.
I love cm9 too.. Very fast and smooth no lag only had one little bump so far.. I run cm9 on my note and my galaxy tab 2
I would love to use cm9 but im an avid user of bell mobile tv. If there is a way to get both, please point me in the right direction.
Thanks
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bmstrong said:
Upgraded last night after a clean wipe. I like it save for I cannot uninstall ROM manager, and I can't run soft keys. Other than that you couldn't pay me to keep it. I'll be moving to the iPhone 5 and the Note 2 as fast as I can. I absolutely despise the old style hard keys. They are a crime against humanity and must be removed in the Note 2. Full screen or death!!
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Just delete the rom manager app inside the zip before flash and there you go, no more ROM manager.. are you kidding?! why waste perfect screen real estate for emulated keys? Sure the screen could go all the way to the bottom without any hard keys but unless they create a screen with a built in speaker there will always be a space at the top of the phone for that and they balanced the look of the phone by centering the screen AND including keys so that 100% of the LCD is usable. Go get in line with the sheep for that iPhone and sell your note to someone more appreciative of a fully customizable phone
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and I can't run soft keys.
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there are other roms that support this....
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On every android phone I've had I always ended up putting cm on it, it's just so much better than stock
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You Sir, just hit the proverbial nail, directly on the head.......g
It's a [Q] but seems general enough. I was tooling around Rez xda and realized we've got a lot of action going on right now.
Remember when we all took the time to complain and complain and complain some more about the lack of development & devs working on Rez? Well, I just went from chingy51o's ineffabilis to chad0989 & mbobino's work on cm9 downloaded and pondered antp121's kang, then back to ineffabilis, flashed Sebastians kernel, applied therev29's redzound skin, who mike d's wallpaper and added zph pilot's coded splash screen.. that's utilizing a small portion of the devs work on the Rezound (which by the way is only $79 with contract now). I've got a nexus 7 and love it but still have way more love for the Rezound.. I'm using 5 different dev posts/releases for my setup right now (so no complaints here, and never really did b4 but many of us did).. how much RezDev's work are you utilizing now that we've got many options?
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Im still running Scotts CleanRom DE. Its stable, great battery life and im running zhp pilots red alert theme. Love the red on red look. Wish i could get on some new kernels but i have no idea what they do lol. Like i said i like the way my phone runs so im not trying to mess it up but it would be nice if it could somehow make my phone even better than it is now!
Once i get some project butter on my rez i'll be set till i updgrade next year!
All you gotta do is follow the aosp developer only thread, and you'll see a ton of devs working on just aosp. I'm sure there are at least that many doing sense stuff. I make minimum wage so I'm donating a little at a time, but I keep using more devs' work so I'm falling behind lol.
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It is true. I had a Thunderbolt before this Rezound and the developement was awesome. Once we got s-off and ICS source code for the Rezound things are happening at an amazing speed. The developers for the Rezound are great in my opinion. It is just a hard phone to deal with. I am sure future phones will be even harder to crack!
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All you gotta do is follow the aosp developer only thread, and you'll see a ton of devs working on just aosp. I'm sure there are at least that many doing sense stuff. I make minimum wage so I'm donating a little at a time, but I keep using more devs' work so I'm falling behind lol.
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I feel the donation whoas.. I could never donate enough and rarely get to.
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Loving seeing these kernels, and starting to drool over who's ROM I'm gonna flash next!
Amen. Loving the activity going on right now. I know this community has had its issues but in general I think we can say that we have a pretty damn awesome bunch of folks working their magic on the Rez.
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Amen. Loving the activity going on right now. I know this community has had its issues but in general I think we can say that we have a pretty damn awesome bunch of folks working their magic on the Rez.
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Haha I feel it. I've been here since release, it has been a good time. With all the fighting and Markus haha. Good times good times . I'll miss the devs and supporters here when we move on to the next great thing
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I've never complained about lack of development.
I can't wait to see this thing run Jelly Bean though, it is running fantastic on my Gtab 10.1, my old Dinc 1, and my wife's old Fascinate I can only imagine how well it will run on the rezound.
The jellypocalypse only lasted for about a month, and wasn't just for our phone.
You know, when everyone was jelly for jelly bean (bad pun I know).
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I won't be happy until I have Android Rasberry Pie and Sense 7.9
I kept telling people not to leave just because development slowed for a few weeks.
For those of you considering whether to put CM9 or CM10 on your HP Touchpad, or those considering upgrading to CM10:
Left CM10, Right CM9
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Advantages of CM9:
-Stable
-Smooth
-Small weekly CyanogenMod updates
-Much higher Anututu score
Advantages of CM10
-Actively be part of the development community by sharing results with the devs JCScullins & Dorreguay who work hard in porting
-Google Now works perfectly
For one, CM10 is much more buggy. It's also very choppy, considering its running 'Project Butter'. Transitions between windows and apps isn't nearly as smooth as the CM9 build. Overall, CM9 is a much better experience on the HP Touchpad, and if you are not willing to put up with the hindrances of CM10, stick to CM9 until a stable-ler alpha release of CM10 hits XDA. In my opinion, Ice Cream Sandwich is better then Jelly Bean. I feel like Jelly Bean is going in the reverse direction, and Google is not thinking about the approach, "Why fix something' that ain't broke".
An example, when opening a link in an email, you get the option on which application/browser to open the link in. In ICS, you can click the app in the list that pops up, and boom! you're there. In JB, you have to click the app, and then click again to open the app. One might say, why don't you select "Always" such that you never see that prompt... well... my reason is the next point:
I like choosing! I like being able to open a link in Firefox over Chrome if the webpage im going to happens to work better in one over the other. Also, flash is the worst possible experience you can have in CM10 for the Touchpad. Browsers all handle embedded videos differently, and you will find yourself fighting with your tablet to get a simple video running, even if it's an embedded YouTube. It sometimes isn't straight forward to launch the video in the native YouTube application.
Well, if you guys have any questions for me, feel free to ask, as I have two Touchpads (gf uses the CM9 one), and have been using CM9 and CM10 consecutively. I wish to thank all devs in making the Android on the Touchpad a challenging and fun experience! If you only have a Touchpad as your main reason for coming to XDA, be thankful, as some devices aren't as clear cut as the community here in the Touchpad section. (The Wildfire S device I have is a complete nightmare)
Cheers for now!
Edit: With jelly bean 4.2.2 (CM10.1), Google seemed to fix the above-mentioned gripe with choosing the appropriate app to open the item. CM10.1 is fantastic, and certainly worth the upgrade. Most 10.1 ROMs work fine, minus the fact that Bluetooth does not work at all. If you rely on Bluetooth connections with your Touchpad, wait until this issue is fixed, before diving into 4.2.2.
I've been using CM9 as my daily driver for a while now. I've tried CM10 ROMs but always end up going back to CM9 as it just seems more stable. I don't really see any reasons for me to upgrade to JB at the moment. I appreciate the work devs are doing to port CM10 to the Touchpad.
Mmm,
1. Which picture is CM10!
2. Man, I looked for battery life, before installing jscullins...
3. It will be great if u did a video, to see the smoothness of both
Thanks
stayfidz said:
1. Which picture is CM10!
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BuffMcBigHuge said:
Left CM10, Right CM9
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Labeled in the OP.
1. ok, coz i get 5637 under jscullins's rom, near galaxy 2
2. My TP is overcloacked.
Mine is too, at 1.7Ghz. Please explain how yours is at such a higher score.
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Definitely appreciate the Devs for trying to port CM10 to H-pads. Hope they continue to get it fully worked out.
I've tried all the CM10 roms, but end up going back to CM9 mainly for stability.
Keep up the great works!
BuffMcBigHuge, since you have 2 Pads, what do you think about battery life on CM9?
Maybe you didn't install all patches for CM10, or your background services hindered the test.
i only see 1 picture
oops nevermind. i didn't notice the scroll bar under the text
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BuffMcBigHuge, since you have 2 Pads, what do you think about battery life on CM9?
Maybe you didn't install all patches for CM10, or your background services hindered the test.
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Cm10 battery is fantastic. Ill post CM9 tomorrow. however not entirely sure why my wifi randomly turned on while the screen was off.
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I've had both the Targus case and an iPad 1 case just like you, and always seem to come back to the official HP case. I like how slim it is compared to the others.
BTW, Nice work comparing ICS and JB.
Flash support in ICS means I always come back to it, not having it in JB really is a downside. I've been wondering what features JB really offers as an advantage over ICS other than maybe a bit more of a polished look. Anyone?
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BuffMcBigHuge, nice to hear it,
2. Sure CM9 is stable, but you don't get the butter
3. Jscullins has some hick-ups but fine with it, since i'm just for reading on it
3. galaxy s2 LTE uses the snapdragon 3 version, the score is near the Tab10 too
4. I wish for a final CM10.
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I've had both the Targus case and an iPad 1 case just like you, and always seem to come back to the official HP case. I like how slim it is compared to the others.
BTW, Nice work comparing ICS and JB.
Flash support in ICS means I always come back to it, not having it in JB really is a downside. I've been wondering what features JB really offers as an advantage over ICS other than maybe a bit more of a polished look. Anyone?
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You can get Flash on JB through the Adobe site link below, though I'm curious what you need it for, don't have it on my phone and have never needed it for anything.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4675670
My wife likes to watch video recipes on marthastewart.com, (lol) which as you can guess still requires flash. The performance in CM10 is so poor that it is nearly impossible to get to the video after all the advertisements. Leaves me wondering why it works 100% on my phone, with the same chip set.
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My wife likes to watch video recipes on marthastewart.com, (lol) which as you can guess still requires flash. The performance in CM10 is so poor that it is nearly impossible to get to the video after all the advertisements. Leaves me wondering why it works 100% on my phone, with the same chip set.
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Yes, flash is horrible on CM10. The flash area flickers (was going to say flashes, but that would sound wierd lol), and there are heavy graphical artifacts and bugs that tend to show stretching and skewing of the screen.
When HMTL5 takes over several flash videos, the experience isn't any better. For your wife, I would suggest backing up your apps with Titanium Backup, and then flashing CM9. My gf's touchpad uses CM9, and she hates using mine due to the issues with flash.
CM9 battery life. Not many stats due to the battery profile not running on CM9. Here, standby of 13 hours and slight usage caused a 15% battery drop, which is not bad at all.
thanks for the information
Thanks for all the info. I will stick with CM 9 for now and wait for CM10 to be more stable.
i got 4265 on my cm10 touchpad, not overclocked.
I have the jscullins's cm10 rom. It seems pretty stable. Chrome does not function very well but I just use another browser. I just like the layout with cm10 better.
I am running Schizoid's CM10 AIO and it's running pretty well, some applications have issues, but apparently recent updates have fixed them. Probably means I should update soon. Either way it's starting to feel like it's getting closer to a daily driver.