hi there,
i am new to asus transformer prime.
i recive my transformer prime yesterday and i am so extremly happy with it =)
after i read some postings about gps problems i got scared... i was afraid that i have to sent the prime back.
ok i went outside to my car to test the transformer...
after i saw some videos at youtube, where some guys make a video from startup the prime till the satfix i also do that... i recorded it with my sg2...
now i want to share that video with you.
btw. its a german standard delivered prime, no import or something like that and its the honey comb standard stock firmware... no update in germany at the moment.
plz excuse my english gramar
I am impressed, considering you got 11 locks.
Same here. Your grammar is terrific and thanks for posting your results. Unfortunately,my results aren't anywhere near this, but hoping for a solid ASUS fix. Regards.
hi mates,
i'm really sorry for you guys... it is unbelievable that ther are so many differences between the devices. i live rather rural, and thought that i would have a bad signal. but i am glad that my prime works well.
I live in Italy, and it looks like our version would be a little different... But it will be available from 25-30 January, then I'll buy one and update you on the tablet status.
Mine does the same thing, until i start moving. then they start dropping off and wont stay locked.
after new update my gps turns worthless... that suxx thx asus!
I would be in the same suxx boat after the update.
after factory resetting the signal is much better... like at hc...
the prime is after f-r much faster, so if you update and you are possible to f-r than go for it.
single problem, the camera driver hang one time with scrambled picture but after a restart everything is fine...
The weirdest thing is with 10 sats used it was still at 45 feet accuracy.
mikeypopps said:
The weirdest thing is with 10 sats used it was still at 45 feet accuracy.
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And fluctuating wildly. While good for a Prime, it's still pretty bad. I posted this in another thread but here's a G-Tab under similar conditions.
Impressive video. Thanks. So you said after update it messed it up till you reset. Have you, since then, did a similar test and got similar results? ALSO, how does GPS in prime handle the locks once you in a moving vehicle?
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And fluctuating wildly. While good for a Prime, it's still pretty bad. I posted this in another thread but here's a G-Tab under similar conditions.
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lol. hardly any difference. Yours fluctuated between 15, 30, n 40ft accuracy. Mostly between 30 n 40ft. Same number of satellites. Yes the prime did fluctuate more overall but still basically same end result. Both had 11 satellites and 10-11 of them locked. Both devices accuracy fluctuating range was basically the same. Prime has knocked on the 15ft. Accuracy door..lol. overall impressed of the prime compared to your galaxy. Considering so many things going against the prime, it performed quite well.
AND I know the real comes in a moving vehicle. So stationary, the too looked very similar and not enough difference to say one is alot better than the other.
ALSO, what was that crazy sound when you got your first lock? Lol
I have never gotten mine to show even one satellite. I have only tested in my living room with metal blinds closed though since it has been about 5F degrees lately and in my house is the only real world use I have for GPS on my tablet.
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I have never gotten mine to show even one satellite. I have only tested in my living room with metal blinds closed though since it has been about 5F degrees lately and in my house is the only real world use I have for GPS on my tablet.
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Same here..lol we need to take our primes outdoors for a real test. I think once we get our first lock ever, then it will easily indoors as it will have the data from previous or first lock already set. So it won't take as long to get new locks. Maybe this weekend ill finally take the Prime outdoors n see. Its been too cold out to be standing around waiting for a lock..lmao
ya, the accuracy is killing me... it jumps betwen 20 and 110...
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wow thx Barry for you comparsion... i realy thougt the g-tab would be better than the tfp in gps... nice video thx again
were you outdoors at the test
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Impressive video. Thanks. So you said after update it messed it up till you reset. Have you, since then, did a similar test and got similar results? ALSO, how does GPS in prime handle the locks once you in a moving vehicle?
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lol. hardly any difference. Yours fluctuated between 15, 30, n 40ft accuracy. Mostly between 30 n 40ft. Same number of satellites. Yes the prime did fluctuate more overall but still basically same end result. Both had 11 satellites and 10-11 of them locked. Both devices accuracy fluctuating range was basically the same. Prime has knocked on the 15ft. Accuracy door..lol. overall impressed of the prime compared to your galaxy. Considering so many things going against the prime, it performed quite well.
AND I know the real comes in a moving vehicle. So stationary, the too looked very similar and not enough difference to say one is alot better than the other.
ALSO, what was that crazy sound when you got your first lock? Lol
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i will do a new video on ics... it feels a bit better now with gps... after factory reset i went to my car and do the same test as in the first video... i have now a bit more solid signal... but some difference in the weather... the first video was on a cristal clear sunny day and today as i tested the gps it was snowing... so the signal today was a bit better although it was snowing...
and the crazy sound was a message =)
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you really should test yours outdoors... mine have indoors 10 fixes but with instabler connection...
I would like to test my gps outdoors. Don't feel like standing outside in snow and 20 degree weather.
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I would like to test my gps outdoors. Don't feel like standing outside in snow and 20 degree weather.
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snow and 20°??? wow awesome... no i mean fantastic... where do you live i will visit you for about two weeks for boarding???
or do you mean -20°??? than i stay here
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The weirdest thing is with 10 sats used it was still at 45 feet accuracy.
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I find the same thing. My wifi seems to be okay. At least I can get good speed in the bedroom and living room. Have used it at the hospital with little problems (I was told the hospital's wifi is not that great). GPS, in my house shows 45 feet accuracy where as my HTC Evo 3D shows 10 feet or so.
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°F, I presume
oh... same as here.. so i stay here ^^
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Hello all,
So i finally got my hand on the transformer prime, and are ready to test the hell out of it.
Im planning to make a video review like the first transformer.
Before i do it id like to ask around and see what people would like to know about the tf prime aside from the obvious thats already been addressed by most review sites.
Im not a developer so dont ask things that are too technical.
Questions ill be able to answer are like what video format does it play, does it get warm and things like that.
And please dont ask me about the release date, i have no idea,
Bought mine from taiwan computer exhibit.
Ill collect the info and post thevideo hopefully by tonight.
*Sneak previewed: the first reaction when i opened the box, WOW！！！
Edit: I'm sorry guys, making the video takes a little longer than I expected, I'll make sure to post it by tomorrow night.
PS. Please read the post before reply so i can organize the qs more efficiently.
Edit: the videos are up on YouTube, I feel like I didn't cover half as much as I'd like to say,
Will do an update video, sorry guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ixbPbVk3wQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw
Edit 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWzRZyJ2Q3M
Video 3 is up, covers things like gaming, super note and onlive
Edit not sure which time:
video 4, hdmi out to 55inch display, demo of 1080 High profile mkv video clip (played with MXplayer) + Onlive arkham city with bt keyboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTqUQFUa10A
a quick note on standby battery life,
I charged it fully last night, unplug it from the charger.
Wifi is connected to my home router and set to never turn off. (actually everything in setting if left as Out of the box)
went to bed, and this morning , about 8 hours in standby. Battery reads 98%.
I don't have a good way to test the battery life, but it doesn't feel any shorter than the ipads. So it's definitely more than
the 5 hours claimed by the Verge.
EDIT:
I just got some preliminary results on wifi performance.
3 meters from the router, nothing in between
download upload
laptop 18mb/s 2mb/s
TF101 15mb/s 3mb/s
Prime 12mb/s 2.5mb/s
6 meters from router, with wooden wall in between
download upload
laptop 14mb/s 2mb/s
TF101 9mb/s 2mb/s
prime 7.8mb/s 2mb/s
it appears prime does have a slower wifi speed, not dramatically though,
I'm suspecting the metal chasis is causing some sort of interference.
but keep in mind these are preliminary result and I haven't repeat it nearly as enough
to confirm the result.
And from what I've heard in Taiwan they've already made progress in the issue and the wifi
performance are hugely improved. (I'm pretty sure mine is the first batch)
Edit (again):
By going even further away from the router with more obstruction in between,
the results became obvious.
about 15 meters away, with concrete, doors, windows in between (outside of my house to be exact)
wifi signal shows one bar (for both TF101 and prime)
download upload
TF101 3.5mb/s 1mb/s
Prime 0.67mb/s 1.25 mb/s
Despite from the wifi result, I don't really feel any drop in wifi speed with the prime, perhaps due to the faster page rendering speed with the prime. In a user point of view, couldn't really notice the difference. Reliable sources in Taiwan indicated that they are aware of the issue, and good progress has been made to improve the performance of the wifi signal. So my guess is by the time you guys receives your units, the wifi strength would be much stronger compare to mine.
I know this might seem a little biased, but I just have to add that the PRIME is without a doubt the best piece of electronic device I've used in years.
***by the way, never experienced the SOD (sleep of death), woohoo!! hopefully it is gone for good.
Best,
A.
andyxover said:
Hello all,
So i finally got my hand on the transformer prime, and are ready to test the hell out of it.
Im planning to make a video review like the first transformer.
Before i do it id like to ask around and see what people would like to know about the tf prime aside from the obvious thats already been addressed by most review sites.
Im not a developer so dont ask things that are too technical.
Questions ill be able to answer are like what video format does it play, does it get warm and things like that.
Ill collect the info and post thevideo hopefully by tonight.
*Sneak previewed: the first reaction when i opened the box, WOW！！！
PS. Please read the post before reply so i can organize the qs more efficiently.
Best,
A.
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does it get warm? lol I actually would like to know this.
hows the scrolling? compared to a ipad1?
hows the internet speed compared to it aswell?
blaziner18 said:
does it get warm? lol I actually would like to know this.
hows the scrolling? compared to a ipad1?
hows the internet speed compared to it aswell?
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The top, where the camera is gets warmer than before ( i was charging it at the same time though)
But never to the point thats uncomfortable.
I think ipads 1,2 still have the best scrolling in the world,
Because it heavily related the software. Its smoother, but notipad smooth yet, lets hope ics can deliver that, and i think it will.
-How well does it handle flash content? Try playing a normal flash game like Boxhead and see how well it runs and how well the dock (if you have it) emulates a keyboard.
-If you got the grey version, is it too purple? (Been getting mixed opinions regarding the purpleness)
would love to see some quick handwriting on ezpdf. Not sure if the original has any lag while doing that but thats definitely something I will be using the prime for
Why can the prime not handle simple text inputs in the browser? With Tegra 2 it did this in any browser, could u test this for us further?
And what about the checker board patterns while scrolling?
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would love to see some quick handwriting on ezpdf. Not sure if the original has any lag while doing that but thats definitely something I will be using the prime for
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Ive tested out handwriting on a original TF at BB and there doesn't seem to have any lag.
What about the sound with/without cover?
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would love to see some quick handwriting on ezpdf. Not sure if the original has any lag while doing that but thats definitely something I will be using the prime for
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- This. ^
- install Swype and test out typing: http://beta.swype.com/
Could you please do an in depth look into the camera/ quality of pictures in low light, normal light, sunshine etc., videos in full 1080p and give a comparison as to how it stacks up with something like iphone 4s since they seem to have very similar cameras.
Also can you sample the sound from the device, is it by any chance tinny/ has low volume.
Check the wifi performance if you can, there has been this problem with a few reviewers.
Flash performance on websites would also be nice to see.
Play a 720p/1080p video off a SD card I'm very curious if there would be noticeable lag?
BTW thanks for answering our question while we impatiently wait for our prime (^_^)
Any chance this thing has an FM radio?
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium
duckied said:
Play a 720p/1080p video off a SD card I'm very curious if there would be noticeable lag?
BTW thanks for answering our question while we impatiently wait for our prime (^_^)
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One of the major reviewers tested this on the highest quality format. It was said that there's no lag at all. Plays just as fast as if you stored the vid. Inside internal storage.
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One of the major reviewers tested this on the highest quality format. It was said that there's no lag at all. Plays just as fast as if you stored the vid. Inside internal storage.
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He is absolutely right about that
Please show size and depth please try to compare feel weight size to ipad-galaxy 10.1.
What do games look like with hdmi out on a 32 inch + TV?
OOoooo... nice =) Because i am planning on getting a 64 sdxc hopefully a class10.
Can you guys link me to that review i haven't read anything on that yet.
How is the position of the speakers effecting the sound experience? Does it feel like you're hearing from distance despite the loudness? Do the speakers have a proper headroom regardless?
Many thanks.
What is the sound/music quality like via head/earphones? Is the Prime able to drive high impedance headphones? And does the stock music player support FLAC files?
Thanks for doing this! I'm sure I'm not the only one that's envious of you getting the Prime so soon
Is the 40 pin connector on the PRIME the same as the TF101?
For example, the USB to 40 pin connect cable the same?
If you have the 40 pin adapter to USB from TF101 will that work?
Thanks
Okay guys, here we go with some impressions of a non american prime.
Today, I got my 32GB gray Prime + the gray dock from the first german batch.
I have to say that I never owned a tablet myself before and I currently use a Desire HD as my development phone.
Hardware:
Good:
Build quality is perfect, period. On my Prime there is absolutely nothing i don't like about it.
It's super thin and not too heavy
Power and volume buttons are nice, but not metal
Keyboard dock build quality is on the same superior level.
The screen is absolutely awesome, super bright, perferct viewing angels and the colors are super good too, no yellow hue for me.
The speaker(s) are hands down the best thing I've ever heard on any mobile device. They are loud, they are clear and they have bass . I tried to completely cover it -->not possible with my hand, it still sounds the same
No comment on batterylife yet, it's my first charge
Camera is really good for a tablet, the pictures look much like iPhone pictures look. Really good when zoomed out and pretty strange when zoomed in.
The screen is very easy to clean, no comparision to my phone.
Bad:
Wifi is pretty weak, I can clearly see that it is way weaker than my DHD (it actually doesn't even see my network where my phone connects without any issue)
I won't say anything concerning the actual speed because I am not used to Wifi devices having a better speed than 10Mbps.... One word though: it's slower than my phone.
After the .33 update Wifi speeds are really good, 25-30Mbit/s
It's pretty sad we got only one speaker, you clearly notice the sound comes only from one side
The charging cable somehow feels really cheap. It also doesn't have any kind of snapping thing which prevents unwanted removal of the plug. The connector is like a USB-plug, you plug it and you un-plug it without any button or so to press. The charger itself feels okay.
Keys on the dock could need a bit more travel distance
Screen is finger print magnet, but I actually havenÄt compared this to other tablets
Software
Good:
Hmm, yea what to write here...?
HC runs smoother on the Prime than on my girlfriends Xoom...
Asus Supernote is a pretty decent note taking app. If they add palm rejection it's the best note app out there.
Haven't tested much of the other Asus apps so far
Ah, the Asus quicksettingsmenu is cool too, it's fast and just works
Bad:
HC just sucks, it's not well optimized at all. There are bugs random slowdowns and hangs everywhere
My GPS is broken too (more on this later)
Touchscreen sucks (I put this to software because I don't think it's hardware related). The touchscreen isn't always working properly. It's the same "ghost touching" reported earlier. Also it sometimes just doesn't register at all. You need to tap 2 or even more times.
Touchscreen working perfectly after the .33 update, no more issues at all.
Usage
I love the keyboard, i actually work a lot with that tiny mousepad I never saw me working with a mouse on android
Battery (still first charge of Prime and dock) seems to be pretty good, I am currently on 11 hours of constant usage (webrowsing, a movie, listening to music playing games, etc)
using the touchscreen while docked is a bit hard because the device is very top heavy, you need to hold the dock while working with your finger on the screen
You need to activate the ASUS onscreen keyboard in order to get a QWERTZ keyboard while using the dock. Otherwise it's a QWERTY. That's the most annoying thing I found so far
The "GPS-issue":
Now I had the chance to actually test it myself, so here are the results.
My Prime doesn't lock onto satellites as most others here too.
It barely sees any satellites at all. Where my phone sees 10 sats (all with good reception) the Prime sees from time to time exactly one with near zero reception...
I really think this is software related (or maybe I just want to believe that? ). Read why:
In my opinion we have so many issues with the Primes because ASUS didn't intend to release the Prime with Honeycomb at all.
I think they developed this device only with ICS and once they realized that they can't finish ICS they hurried up to slap HC on it.
Unfortunately the actual testing of the software was more or less forgotten or better suspended due to time constraints.
If I am right we will see a nicely running more or less issue free ICS soon. If this is not the case ASUS really screwed up this time...
Conclusion
All in all I think the Prime is a awesome device which will get perfect once the bugs are gone. I am still happy with my Prime and I'll keep it.
If they fix the GPS and the touchscreen I got a perfect device for my use. Weak Wifi is not really a problem for me
Update
Okay a little update mainly about battery life:
I used the Prime all day now until it reached 2% I got about 9 hours of constant heavy usage, including webbrowsing, downloading lots of things, watching a movie, listening to music playing games, etc.
Then i plugged the fully charged dock and continued using the Prime the same way as before. Currently I am near 12 hours of usage, 23% left in the dock and Prime got recharged by dock to 31%.
I guess the Prime will go up to about 40-45% (all while using it), before the dock gets empty.
So far I am pretty impressed by the batterylife. (remember this is the first charge for both Prime and dock)
See also the added section about the usage.
Second Update
I just got the .33 OTA and it installed fine without any problems.
The touchscreen is super responsive now, no more issue at all in this case.
Wifi seems to be faster too, GPS hasn't changed at all (as expected)
Diamondback2010 said:
The "GPS-issue":
Now I had the chance to actually test it myself, so here are the results.
My Prime doesn't lock onto satellites as most others here too.
It barely sees any satellites at all. Where my phone sees 10 sats (all with good reception) the Prime sees from time to time exactly one with near zero reception...
I really think this is software related (or maybe I just want to believe that? ). Read why:
In my opinion we have so many issues with the Primes because ASUS didn't intend to release the Prime with Honeycomb at all.
I think they developed this device only with ICS and once they realized that they can't finish ICS they hurried up to slap HC on it.
Unfortunately the actual testing of the software was more or less forgotten or better suspended due to time constraints.
If I am right we will see a nicely running more or less issue free ICS soon. If this is not the case ASUS really screwed up this time...
Conclusion
All in all I think the Prime is a awesome device which will get perfect once the bugs are gone. I am still happy with my Prime and I'll keep it.
If they fix the GPS and the touchscreen I got a perfect device for my use. Weak Wifi is not really a problem for me
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Interesting point you raise and something that I was thinking about also, maybe the drivers for the GPS were intended to work only with ICS (I don't know enough to comment on this) and that's really why we're getting such shoddy reception. However the fact that ASUS are now removing all traces of the device having GPS in the specs list does suggest that it may well be hardware related.
I'm expecting a statement pretty soon from them.
Thanks for the short review! Do you have the 64GB Prime?
JoeyLe said:
Thanks for the short review! Do you have the 64GB Prime?
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Nope, the 32GB + dock bundle in gray.
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Nope, the 32GB + dock bundle in gray.
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Those already out in Germany? You're lucky there! Will be another week or 2 before it will come out in Holland.
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However the fact that ASUS are now removing all traces of the device having GPS in the specs list does suggest that it may well be hardware related.
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I haven't seen this mentioned before. Is this true?
I see it still lists GPS here:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/#specifications
ModestMuse23 said:
I haven't seen this mentioned before. Is this true?
I see it still lists GPS here:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/#specifications
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Yeah, here it still is too: http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/specification/
Gps is still listed in specs on Asus global site.
Diamondback2010 said:
Okay guys, here we go with some impressions of a non american prime.
Today, I got my 32GB gray Prime + the gray dock from the first german batch.
I have to say that I never owned a tablet myself before and I currently use a Desire HD as my development phone.
Hardware:
Good:
Build quality is perfect, period. On my Prime there is absolutely nothing i don't like about it.
It's super thin and not too heavy
Power and volume buttons are nice, but not metal
Keyboard dock build quality is on the same superior level.
The screen is absolutely awesome, super bright, perferct viewing angels and the colors are super good too, no yellow hue for me.
The speaker(s) are hands down the best thing I've ever heard on any mobile device. They are loud, they are clear and they have bass . I tried to completely cover it -->not possible with my hand, it still sounds the same
No comment on batterylife yet, it's my first charge
Camera is really good for a tablet, the pictures look much like iPhone pictures look. Really good when zoomed out and pretty strange when zoomed in.
The screen is very easy to clean, no comparision to my phone.
Bad:
Wifi is pretty weak, I can clearly see that it is way weaker than my DHD (it actually doesn't even see my network where my phone connects without any issue)
I won't say anything concerning the actual speed because I am not used to Wifi devices having a better speed than 10Mbps.... One word though: it's slower than my phone.
It's pretty sad we got only one speaker, you clearly notice the sound comes only from one side
The charging cable somehow feels really cheap. The charger itself is okay
Keys on the dock could need a bit more travel distance
Screen is finger print magnet, but I actually havenÄt compared this to other tablets
Software
Good:
Hmm, yea what to write here...?
HC runs smoother on the Prime than on my girlfriends Xoom...
Asus Supernote is a pretty decent note taking app. If they add palm rejection it's the best note app out there.
Haven't tested much of the other Asus apps so far
Ah, the Asus quicksettingsmenu is cool too, it's fast and just works
Bad:
HC just sucks, it's not well optimized at all. There are bugs random slowdowns and hangs everywhere
My GPS is broken too (more on this later)
Touchscreen sucks (I put this to software because I don't think it's hardware related). The touchscreen isn't always working properly. It's the same "ghost touching" reported earlier. Also it sometimes just doesn't register at all. You need to tap 2 or even more times.
The "GPS-issue":
Now I had the chance to actually test it myself, so here are the results.
My Prime doesn't lock onto satellites as most others here too.
It barely sees any satellites at all. Where my phone sees 10 sats (all with good reception) the Prime sees from time to time exactly one with near zero reception...
I really think this is software related (or maybe I just want to believe that? ). Read why:
In my opinion we have so many issues with the Primes because ASUS didn't intend to release the Prime with Honeycomb at all.
I think they developed this device only with ICS and once they realized that they can't finish ICS they hurried up to slap HC on it.
Unfortunately the actual testing of the software was more or less forgotten or better suspended due to time constraints.
If I am right we will see a nicely running more or less issue free ICS soon. If this is not the case ASUS really screwed up this time...
Conclusion
All in all I think the Prime is a awesome device which will get perfect once the bugs are gone. I am still happy with my Prime and I'll keep it.
If they fix the GPS and the touchscreen I got a perfect device for my use. Weak Wifi is not really a problem for me
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great first impressions. I also believe this has the best sound out of any mobile device I've heard before. in the themes and apps section there's a thread on an app called Volume+. its a volume booster that uses a speaker mod to accomplish this. let me tell you, IT WORKS GREAT. my prime now is wayyy louder than stock and has more bass to it also. I confirmed this with a decibel meter testing the speaker mod off vs. on. definitely a dramatic increase in sound and quality. has various profiles and even advanced ones so you can use equalizer if you feel up to it. that thread had link to marketplace for it. its a paid app. but he also says, in description, you can get that same app for free from his website. which he lists in app description also. just thought I'd spread the word as the sound now is unbelievable for the most part.
glad to hear you liking your Prime. hopefully it'll serve as a great developement tool for you also.
Thanks for the review. Surprised that the WiFi isn't as strong as the Desire HD I would have thought it would be. Maybe this can be improved, certainly sounds like it would be better with optimized ICS as well.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
ModestMuse23 said:
I haven't seen this mentioned before. Is this true?
I see it still lists GPS here:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_Prime_TF201/#specifications
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JoeyLe said:
Yeah, here it still is too: http://eee.asus.com/eeepad/transformer-prime/specification/
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acidus. said:
Gps is still listed in specs on Asus global site.
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its true. check out the GPS issues thread n You will see. they began to remove it first from the U.S. Asus site. they probably in process now of trying to remove all traces of it..lol
demandarin said:
great first impressions. I also believe this has the best sound out of any mobile device I've heard before. in the themes and apps section there's a thread on an app called Volume+. its a volume booster that uses a speaker mod to accomplish this. let me tell you, IT WORKS GREAT. my prime now is wayyy louder than stock and has more bass to it also. I confirmed this with a decibel meter testing the speaker mod off vs. on. definitely a dramatic increase in sound and quality. has various profiles and even advanced ones so you can use equalizer if you feel up to it. that thread had link to marketplace for it. its a paid app. but he also says, in description, you can get that same app for free from his website. which he lists in app description also. just thought I'd spread the word as the sound now is unbelievable for the most part.
glad to hear you liking your Prime. hopefully it'll serve as a great developement tool for you also.
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Wow, nice never tried that app before, but it works perfectly
Thanks for that tip
demandarin said:
its true. check out the GPS issues thread n You will see. they began to remove it first from the U.S. Asus site. they probably in process now of trying to remove all traces of it..lol
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Yes, no trace of GPS on german site...
First batch in Poland and gps works perfectly.
Wysłane z mojego Transformer Prime TF201 za pomocą Tapatalk
Diamondback2010 said:
Okay guys, here we go with some impressions of a non american prime.
Today, I got my 32GB gray Prime + the gray dock from the first german batch.
I have to say that I never owned a tablet myself before and I currently use a Desire HD as my development phone.
Hardware:
Good:
Build quality is perfect, period. On my Prime there is absolutely nothing i don't like about it.
It's super thin and not too heavy
Power and volume buttons are nice, but not metal
Keyboard dock build quality is on the same superior level.
The screen is absolutely awesome, super bright, perferct viewing angels and the colors are super good too, no yellow hue for me.
The speaker(s) are hands down the best thing I've ever heard on any mobile device. They are loud, they are clear and they have bass . I tried to completely cover it -->not possible with my hand, it still sounds the same
No comment on batterylife yet, it's my first charge
Camera is really good for a tablet, the pictures look much like iPhone pictures look. Really good when zoomed out and pretty strange when zoomed in.
The screen is very easy to clean, no comparision to my phone.
Bad:
Wifi is pretty weak, I can clearly see that it is way weaker than my DHD (it actually doesn't even see my network where my phone connects without any issue)
I won't say anything concerning the actual speed because I am not used to Wifi devices having a better speed than 10Mbps.... One word though: it's slower than my phone.
It's pretty sad we got only one speaker, you clearly notice the sound comes only from one side
The charging cable somehow feels really cheap. It also doesn't have any kind of snapping thing which prevents unwanted removal of the plug. The connector is like a USB-plug, you plug it and you un-plug it without any button or so to press. The charger itself feels okay.
Keys on the dock could need a bit more travel distance
Screen is finger print magnet, but I actually havenÄt compared this to other tablets
Software
Good:
Hmm, yea what to write here...?
HC runs smoother on the Prime than on my girlfriends Xoom...
Asus Supernote is a pretty decent note taking app. If they add palm rejection it's the best note app out there.
Haven't tested much of the other Asus apps so far
Ah, the Asus quicksettingsmenu is cool too, it's fast and just works
Bad:
HC just sucks, it's not well optimized at all. There are bugs random slowdowns and hangs everywhere
My GPS is broken too (more on this later)
Touchscreen sucks (I put this to software because I don't think it's hardware related). The touchscreen isn't always working properly. It's the same "ghost touching" reported earlier. Also it sometimes just doesn't register at all. You need to tap 2 or even more times.
The "GPS-issue":
Now I had the chance to actually test it myself, so here are the results.
My Prime doesn't lock onto satellites as most others here too.
It barely sees any satellites at all. Where my phone sees 10 sats (all with good reception) the Prime sees from time to time exactly one with near zero reception...
I really think this is software related (or maybe I just want to believe that? ). Read why:
In my opinion we have so many issues with the Primes because ASUS didn't intend to release the Prime with Honeycomb at all.
I think they developed this device only with ICS and once they realized that they can't finish ICS they hurried up to slap HC on it.
Unfortunately the actual testing of the software was more or less forgotten or better suspended due to time constraints.
If I am right we will see a nicely running more or less issue free ICS soon. If this is not the case ASUS really screwed up this time...
Conclusion
All in all I think the Prime is a awesome device which will get perfect once the bugs are gone. I am still happy with my Prime and I'll keep it.
If they fix the GPS and the touchscreen I got a perfect device for my use. Weak Wifi is not really a problem for me
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where in Germany are these available?
The whole thing is just an incredible failure by Asus. They obviously rushed and keep rushing an unfinished product to market in order to beat the new ipad launch in January. Its nothing more than a big FU to the consumer. Return for refund, dont let them get away with this BS.
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jotka2 said:
First batch in Poland and gps works perfectly.
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Lucky you. Got mine yesterday, yes same batch in Poland distributed by Euro RTV AGD, and can confirm that the GPS reception is of very low signal. Long time for first lock, and looses the signal very easily.
Side by side comparison with my TF101 clearly suggests problems with GPS of the TF201.
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[*]The charging cable somehow feels really cheap.
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It is. It look like the same cable as the one in TF101. Mine chipped on the corner - on itself, just while I was plugging it.
It also doesn't have any kind of snapping thing which prevents unwanted removal of the plug.
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It's actually a good thing, so if you trip on the cable, the device will hopefully unplug and not crash.
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It is. It look like the same cable as the one in TF101. Mine chipped on the corner - on itself, just while I was plugging it.
It's actually a good thing, so if you trip on the cable, the device will hopefully unplug and not crash.
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Never thought about it this way, but you are right
Just kinda unhandy when you are doing things with it while charging (maybe the initial charge is the only time this happens at all )
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32GB gray Prime + the gray dock from the first german batch.
where in Germany did you get yours??
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Received my prime today and so happy to report that the tablet have
No light bleeds even in complete darkness
No poor wifi signal
No GPS issues , connects offline in 5min.
No yellow screen color
No lcd screen separation
IT'S JUST PERFECT!
Should i return it ? This is not normal it should have a defect for it to become a full pledge prime.
mywingtophone said:
Received my prime today and so happy to report that the tablet have
No light bleeds even in complete darkness
No poor wifi signal
No GPS issues , connects offline in 5min.
No yellow screen color
No lcd screen separation
IT'S JUST PERFECT!
Should i return it ? This is not normal it should have a defect for it to become a full pledge prime.
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Posts like this are like putting a "kick me" sign on your back...
Mine is fine too think I had light bleeding when it first setup but there's none now
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BarryH_GEG said:
Posts like this are like putting a "kick me" sign on your back...
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now we plan a robbery, and the tablet will be ours
Mine's perfect. No light bleed or pixel issues. No issues wifi or gps. Absolutely love the new design. It looks rich and feels like your holding something very solid. I think it feels much thinner and a little lighter. Gonna be a late night tonight.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Posts like this are like putting a "kick me" sign on your back...
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shut it, this is what people are complaining about on these forums. theres no positive posts about the primes. If there was more people willing to post that they have good primes people wouldn't be walking away from the prime.
blaziner18 said:
shut it, this is what people are complaining about on these forums. theres no positive posts about the primes. If there was more people willing to post that they have good primes people wouldn't be walking away from the prime.
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When eVer I see a post showing doubt on the prime, I usually try to interject my positive experience with it. this is a great device. my Ipad just sits now. been using this device nonstop since I got it on 12/22
The only thing that bugs me about mine is that transferring files thru the usb cable is really slowbor gives errors. I have to use swiftp instead. Aside from that everything is great
cyi1 said:
The only thing that bugs me about mine is that transferring files thru the usb cable is really slowbor gives errors. I have to use swiftp instead. Aside from that everything is great
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I can transfer large files between my phone and computer by USB, I don't see why the prime should be any different. could it be a defect, or maybe you don't have your settings right?
demandarin said:
When eVer I see a post showing doubt on the prime, I usually try to interject my positive experience with it. this is a great device. my Ipad just sits now. been using this device nonstop since I got it on 12/22
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+1
except you have had it one more day then me
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shut it
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If you re-read what I said, it's not negative. The same could and does apply when someone posts an all negative thread. Taking any absolute position on a public forum is the equivelant of "kick me."
Transformer Prime
Have had no problem with mine. Everything works. Happy, Happy! Because of it being a tablet some of my phone apps don't work but I have found new ones. Have been transferring things between desktop, laptop and Transformer using ES File Explorer and have not needed to use usb. Speed of transfer has been good. Only problem has been some of the older apps have not been able to find the MicroSD card. Move the data to the internal storage and everything works.
Like it, still playing with it.
Mine seems to be perfect, as well.
I am in NH
Ordered 12/23 Best Buy
Received 12/28 (was shipped from Fresno, CA)
I am just wondering if it is possible to discern whether the good ones/bad ones where concentrated geographically? Or perhaps by retailer?
Mine also works perfectly.one tiny spot of light bleed but can only see it in the dark. No dead or stuck pixels. GPS locks with and without wifi, even though I doubt I will use it at any point I wanted to see if it worked. Wifi is strong for normal usage though I haven't tested it with any apps it does have better range than my Droid charge does. No seperating glass issues or yellow colors.
I love it so far!
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I have issues with the stock browser and WiFi/GPS, but everything else is perfect.
Gotta throw mine into the "working great" bin. I got it Dec. 22 in El Paso, Texas. Gamestop. GS employees were generally cool and helpful. I got it before I left back to Central America on the December 29 so while annoyed with the release of the Prime it wasn't more than that.
No light bleed or Wi-Fi issues. Same reception as iPad (I haven't tried ipad2) . Just used it in several airports while on my way back home. Was really please with its performance on that trip, which had lots if delays but battery handled it without problem.
This is my first tablet so I'm discovering new things every day.
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When eVer I see a post showing doubt on the prime, I usually try to interject my positive experience with it. this is a great device. my Ipad just sits now. been using this device nonstop since I got it on 12/22
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Same date of acquisition, same experience. I am burning some vacation time, and originally thought I was having less than optional battery life, then realized I was just playing too much with it. Working great here.
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I was amazed to find that mine was perfect out of the box as well. For a first tablet this is certainly setting the bar high for me.
Bimboy said:
Same date of acquisition, same experience. I am burning some vacation time, and originally thought I was having less than optional battery life, then realized I was just playing too much with it. Working great here.
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I know what you mean. for the people enjoying the device, we are using it like crazy. probably taxing the system more than reviewers did on battery tests..lmao. either way, even with nonstop heavy use, this gets great battery life. still amazed at how thin the Prime is and how great the display looks.
I need a case badly for this though. anyone know if any brick n mortar stores like Best Buy or Gamestop got any accessories or cases in yet? I really hope targus makes a case. I have the targas Truss case for my Ipad and it provides maximum protection, high quality leather, and great functionality options.
demandarin said:
I know what you mean. for the people enjoying the device, we are using it like crazy. probably taxing the system more than reviewers did on battery tests..lmao. either way, even with nonstop heavy use, this gets great battery life. still amazed at how thin the Prime is and how great the display looks.
I need a case badly for this though. anyone know if any brick n mortar stores like Best Buy or Gamestop got any accessories or cases in yet? I really hope targus makes a case. I have the targas Truss case for my Ipad and it provides maximum protection, high quality leather, and great functionality options.
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im going to look for a case this weekend so ill keep you updated on which one i pick!
as for the device i am in love with it, its perfect best battery life better than i expected and it functions like a beast and is so powerful and gaming on this thing is insane i have not put it down
ok, here it goes. today my local best buy got some primes in stock. I decided to exchange mine in hopes i would get less light bleed and better wifi.
well, good news, i only got 1 very slight light bleed in a corner (decent improvement from my previous 3 spots), the bad news was that i was getting the same reading from wifi bars... and about the same reading from wifi meter.... but something really odd happenend.
when running speedtest, i was getting higher dowload speeds and better performance!!!
So i a wondering if the real issue with the primes lackluster wifi performance has more to do than jsut simply bad reception. Maybe there is an internal component that receives th data that might be bottlenecking on some primes and maybe not in others.
i am no scientist.... but i am getting t least 3 times the download speed results than before. video streaming performance in improved consistently.... yet the signal readins are the same.
hope this helps...or else just bring the flames
It's simple. You were just holding it wrong.
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nope, all my tests have been 2 floors above router... tablet laying flat on same orientation on top of bed
so "mom, look... no hands"
ricard2798 said:
nope, all my tests have been 2 floors above router... tablet laying flat on same orientation on top of bed
so "mom, look... no hands"
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I think you missed an iphone joke
haha to the OP he was referring to what Jobs said when confronted with the iphone reception death grip issue
:-( i am alwaysthe last one to get the jokes ....silly me
I think I found something too. Look, I don't know if this already has been told but it turns out the Prime has a aluminium backplate! That isn't very good for WiFi and GPS; might just be the issue here!
I never pay much attention to the number of bars. My laptop at 1 bar will often score the same on speedtest at full bars. Speed test and streaming tests are the way to go.
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agree totally that streaming and speed tests are essential.
Also, in regards to the backplate... i think everybody knows that by now.... the point i a stating is that 2 different prime units (both with aluminum backplates) yielded diff speed results under the SAME test conditions. just saying.
ill just write it down as my initial unit had broken wifi
After 2 defective launch ATP's, yesterday I finally got a almost perfect unit with dock. My first 2 Primes from Gamestop were a nightmare. They both had every problem reported. The Prime I bought is fantastic. Even the GPS works perfect w/o WiFi. No lag or anything even with the Killer Whale pacing back and forth. No FC's or restarts with ICS. I Love it.
No problems with the camera and flash.
The only 2 problems that bother me is that, no matter what video player I use the audio always lags through Bluetooth and WiFi and Bluetooth do NOT work at the same time. I really enjoy this Prime because the resolution is perfect for my emulators. Anything higher would cause some of my movies and emulators to look like garbage. The Prime and dock really are a premium product as long as you get one that works. Thank You everyone and Gary Key for pushing Asus to finally put out a world class product.
So moral of the story: 1 out of 3 chances you will get the product you paid for.
I think Asus has stepped up their quality control recently.
What is your serial (only the first 5/6 letters)
So did you get your 3rd TP from GameStop as well or did you purchase it from somewhere else?
So this is very very interesting as it is the second thread that someone has posted indicating a "perfect" prime.
The first thread, I was like "BS" due to the fact that the OP really didn't say anything afterwards. It could, perhaps, be that Asus finally observed the issues with the QC and finally made corrections. After bringing back 2 primes because of backlight bleed, perhaps its time to make another run.
I would like to see the first 3-6 letters of the Serial number, also, if you have the chance a picture of a black background with no backlight bleed. After all, I think you owe it to us to provide some sort of "proof" considering your claims. You just can't come on here and say, "I have a perfect prime" with nothing to show for it when we have so much other material to work from that indicates the Prime is a horrible piece of hardware.
Sure he can. Why not? Why would he owe you anything in that respect?
I think what it boils down to is quality control issues, so it's the luck of the draw... just like there are bad/weak ones coming out, the probability is that there will be ones with no issues as well, and it seems he was able to find one of those.
I mean, mine is as "near-perfect" as it seems to get too... no lockups, the wifi works well, as does the GPS (I don't think it would hold up in real time navigation, but it picks up about 12 sats in a short period of time indoors on the ground floor of my house.) And, it has very negligible light bleed.
That being said, this is my 3rd prime (the previous two I returned due to quality issues - dead pixel, bad light bleed on one of them)
The interesting thing is, I upgraded both of those previous primes to ICS before I returned them (I figured "why not" since they were going back to the store anyways - if they start locking up, no problem). I upgraded them both to ICS without any issues, and used them about 2-3 days each before returning them... not a single lockup on either of them
I'm now on my 3rd prime (all WW SKU), and given that the previous 2 upgraded no problem, I decided to upgrade this one as well. I did, and it's been rock solid.
My friend has one as well, also upgraded to ICS. Also no issues.
So for the record, there's 4 that upgraded to ICS no problem.
QUOTE=Pubnum;22095318] After all, I think you owe it to us to provide some sort of "proof" considering your claims. You just can't come on here and say, "I have a perfect prime" with nothing to show for it when we have so much other material to work from that indicates the Prime is a horrible piece of hardware.[/QUOTE]
My 3rd prime is perfect as well. The gps is weak but it at least works. Not a big issue to me. I think I have fixed the lag-i\o issues as well.
I have a perfect prime n not showing y'all a damn thanggg...lmfao. if you want to be short sighted n believe all the negative stuff then do so. We just just continue to enjoy our devices as we see fit. PRIME is an Excellent piece of hardware when done properly. If it wasn't, I been would've returned mines. Fact for me is, it works great in my day to day use.
I just bought a used prime yesterday on graiglist for $350. Iwas not aware of all issue this table has. I bought like new in box condition and now checking all theproblems list i am happy to say that mine is perfect. No backlight issue, amazing wifi range as good has my laptop, gps connect in a second without wifi, serial number show corret. Im in love with this and getting rid of my useless touchpad
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Ill believe in a perfectly working prime when I see it lol
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Ill believe in a perfectly working prime when I see it lol
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Agreed, I'm going to wait about two weeks then make another run at it. Lightbleed is the number 1 issue in my book.
skygunner27 said:
The only thing that bothers me is that, no matter what video player I use the audio always lags through Bluetooth. Can someone tell me how to fix this or suggest a video player with subtitles that doesn't suffer from this delay? Youtube and Netflix work perfect with Bluetooth.
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I had this same problem with my original Transformer, with Netflix and my Motorola S9-HD headphones. I never did resolve it, so I simply started using wired headphones.
Bottom line, I don't think this is a Prime-specific issue...
Mine works fine. My GPS reception is mediocre, but it does work. Everything else is perfect.
You guys need to understand that defective products exist. I recently got a galaxy nexus and the phone had awful reception. Dropped connections every 20 minutes or less. Got verizon to replace it with a new phone which works perfectly.
Mine is also fine. Barely any light bleed, GPS not great, and one miniscule bright spot on the screen (not a dead pixel). Everything else is gravy.
pdanders said:
Mine works fine. My GPS reception is mediocre, but it does work. Everything else is perfect.
You guys need to understand that defective products exist. I recently got a galaxy nexus and the phone had awful reception. Dropped connections every 20 minutes or less. Got verizon to replace it with a new phone which works perfectly.
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We agree that defective products exist. But Asus is clearly having an issue with quality control. And it isn't an issue with just a small few. 90% of them have backlight bleed issues. If you think you don't, you're probably not looking hard enough.
What it really comes down to is what you personally are willing to live with. My prime is great, wifi is strong, gps works (locked on 5 sats last night) however it has a single dead pixel. Is this a game breaker? No. My first prime had 2 bright areas and 2 dark areas. This was a game breaker. I returned it and ordered a new one. Now the new one has a dead pixel however when actually using the prime I don't notice one single dead pixel.
If you can live with the issues you have with your Prime, great. Use the hell out of the TFP and give it great word of mouth. If you have a defective unit and you can't live with the defects by all means return it. I would never advise anyone to do otherwise. I'm a giant advocate for not accepting poor service or quality. I worked the last 4 years doing QA, I know how things go.
However if you can't seem to find your perfect TFP, let it go. Find another device and just move on. We understand your frustration but continually badmouthing something others like/love will only cause contempt and discord.
This is not directed at anyone in particular.
TLDR: If you have a good TFP great, if its defective sorry return it and move on.
Hyflex said:
What is your serial (only the first 5/6 letters)
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BCOKAS
Pubnum said:
So this is very very interesting as it is the second thread that someone has posted indicating a "perfect" prime.
The first thread, I was like "BS" due to the fact that the OP really didn't say anything afterwards. It could, perhaps, be that Asus finally observed the issues with the QC and finally made corrections. After bringing back 2 primes because of backlight bleed, perhaps its time to make another run.
I would like to see the first 3-6 letters of the Serial number, also, if you have the chance a picture of a black background with no backlight bleed. After all, I think you owe it to us to provide some sort of "proof" considering your claims. You just can't come on here and say, "I have a perfect prime" with nothing to show for it when we have so much other material to work from that indicates the Prime is a horrible piece of hardware.
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Maybe I'll take a pic later to show no bleeding. I'm not sure why you don't believe me. Look at my previous posts here. I'm probably the last person on Earth to give the ATP praise. This is the first positive thing I've said about the Prime....and it was hard for me to do so, with all the negative posts I have made about my past experiences.
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Sure he can. Why not? Why would he owe you anything in that respect?
I think what it boils down to is quality control issues, so it's the luck of the draw... just like there are bad/weak ones coming out, the probability is that there will be ones with no issues as well, and it seems he was able to find one of those.
I mean, mine is as "near-perfect" as it seems to get too... no lockups, the wifi works well, as does the GPS (I don't think it would hold up in real time navigation, but it picks up about 12 sats in a short period of time indoors on the ground floor of my house.) And, it has very negligible light bleed.
That being said, this is my 3rd prime (the previous two I returned due to quality issues - dead pixel, bad light bleed on one of them)
The interesting thing is, I upgraded both of those previous primes to ICS before I returned them (I figured "why not" since they were going back to the store anyways - if they start locking up, no problem). I upgraded them both to ICS without any issues, and used them about 2-3 days each before returning them... not a single lockup on either of them
I'm now on my 3rd prime (all WW SKU), and given that the previous 2 upgraded no problem, I decided to upgrade this one as well. I did, and it's been rock solid.
My friend has one as well, also upgraded to ICS. Also no issues.
So for the record, there's 4 that upgraded to ICS no problem.
QUOTE=Pubnum;22095318] After all, I think you owe it to us to provide some sort of "proof" considering your claims. You just can't come on here and say, "I have a perfect prime" with nothing to show for it when we have so much other material to work from that indicates the Prime is a horrible piece of hardware.
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I noticed my bezel seems a lot tighter than my previous primes. I think that has something to do with backlight bleeding.
The Prime on display also had no backlight bleeding. I had made arrangement to take the display model if my Prime had bleeding.
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My 3rd prime is perfect as well. The gps is weak but it at least works. Not a big issue to me. I think I have fixed the lag-i\o issues as well.
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Nice.
eduardmc said:
I just bought a used prime yesterday on graiglist for $350. Iwas not aware of all issue this table has. I bought like new in box condition and now checking all theproblems list i am happy to say that mine is perfect. No backlight issue, amazing wifi range as good has my laptop, gps connect in a second without wifi, serial number show corret. Im in love with this and getting rid of my useless touchpad
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Fantastic.
wynand32 said:
I had this same problem with my original Transformer, with Netflix and my Motorola S9-HD headphones. I never did resolve it, so I simply started using wired headphones.
Bottom line, I don't think this is a Prime-specific issue...
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I really hope I find a fix soon. I need Bluetooth to work for all my movies and anime.
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Bestbuy.
How are you guys testing your gps? What I do to test is open google maps so I can get a map of my area. Then I drive around the block and see if I'm being tracked real time.
I drove around here in Anchorage with a constant lock on 8. There is a discrepancy of about 65 feet. Can someone pleaase help me with Bluetooth audio delay during video playback? This delay does not happen with Youtube or Netflix. It only happens with every video player I use. Asus wants me to RMA. There's no way I'm giving up this Prime!!!