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I have done everything from Autostarts to managing my processes constantly. I played hanging with friends, got on here, and texted.
I posted an updated battery usage. I have lowest brightness, lowest image brightness, 15s timeout, etc.
i would probably switch to conservative governor vs powersave
This isn't typical battery life
I'd advice you to use better battery stats and cpu spy to se what's causing your battery to drain so quickly
Sometimes I notice "back up" in bbs, and this casus my phone to drain within a day
Hanging with friends does consume a lot of battery, but I play it too, and this does not cause that much drainage..
I have ICScrewed and with a heavy usage, my phone usually last for 1.5 ~ 2 days
With moderate call/text and idle, it lasts for 4 days.
jc830 said:
This isn't typical battery life
I'd advice you to use better battery stats and cpu spy to se what's causing your battery to drain so quickly
Sometimes I notice "back up" in bbs, and this casus my phone to drain within a day
Hanging with friends does consume a lot of battery, but I play it too, and this does not cause that much drainage..
I have ICScrewed and with a heavy usage, my phone usually last for 1.5 ~ 2 days
With moderate call/text and idle, it lasts for 4 days.
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Dang that is high! Are you sure about that? :O At medium usage /w unnamed i only get about 18 hours total. It was similar with ICScrewed too
Holy crap. I'll look into better apps. Could UnNamed be the culprit? Or the kernel?
Should I buy a new battery? The life waslike this for the few days I was stock, I think
I average around 17hr, on a good day I'll get 20h. I also recommend better battery stats, great app to see what's keeping your device from going to deep sleep.
Another great app is lbe privacy guard, you can deny certain apps and games some of the permissions they want (disabling GPS on those that really don't need it etc).
I'm on unnamed so that isn't the issue. Might be the kernel, just check the kernel wake clock in better battery stats to check. I'm on entropy's latest dd, while i do feel i got better battery life on the kernel with the latest unnamed ROM I'm not to sure if it's the kernel or something else.
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Dang that is high! Are you sure about that? :O At medium usage /w unnamed i only get about 18 hours total. It was similar with ICScrewed too
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Well, I guess it depends on how you define heavy and moderate... Haha
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Well, I guess it depends on how you define heavy and moderate... Haha
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I'd be curious to see your graph. My battery is dead now, but tomorrow I'm going to get on and upload Better Battery Stats to my phone. I would've paid for it on the Market, but I couldn't find it when I searched. I'm curious to see what other people think. I switched all Powersaves to Conservative. Is OnDemand bad for my CPU as it constantly trips from 500MHz to 1.2GHz? Should I consider going to 1GHz?
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This isn't typical battery life
I'd advice you to use better battery stats and cpu spy to se what's causing your battery to drain so quickly
Sometimes I notice "back up" in bbs, and this casus my phone to drain within a day
Hanging with friends does consume a lot of battery, but I play it too, and this does not cause that much drainage..
I have ICScrewed and with a heavy usage, my phone usually last for 1.5 ~ 2 days
With moderate call/text and idle, it lasts for 4 days.
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I have a hard time believing that. I've done everything I can to optimize my phone and reduce wakelocks and battery drain, and I still never get more than 20 hours on a good day, and that's with moderate usage.
How do you define "heavy usage"?
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I have a hard time believing that. I've done everything I can to optimize my phone and reduce wakelocks and battery drain, and I still never get more than 20 hours on a good day, and that's with moderate usage.
How do you define "heavy usage"?
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I agree. This is my latest battery cycle of what I consider "moderate" use
What I'd consider light usage (about 10 minutes of voice, between 5-10 minutes of cellular data, 10-15 texts, and about 20 minutes of total screen-on time) I get about 35 hours.
I have managed to almost completely drain my battery in about 4 hours though... Thanks Game Dev Story!
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I have a hard time believing that. I've done everything I can to optimize my phone and reduce wakelocks and battery drain, and I still never get more than 20 hours on a good day, and that's with moderate usage.
How do you define "heavy usage"?
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I will make sure to post up my graph when it does drain
I think my definition of heavy usage is moderate use for most people..
Here's the link to bbs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
I realized I forgot to turn off data when I'm not using it, but I installed better battery stats and I didn't really see any wake locks. Should I try a different kernel? Any opinions on an efficient one? NOTE: I already got the yellow triangle for using the Odin way, so I'm fine with doing whatever to this phone.
I added my better battery stats shots. I guess today would be called a very light to light day.
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I realized I forgot to turn off data when I'm not using it, but I installed better battery stats and I didn't really see any wake locks. Should I try a different kernel? Any opinions on an efficient one? NOTE: I already got the yellow triangle for using the Odin way, so I'm fine with doing whatever to this phone.
I added my better battery stats shots. I guess today would be called a very light to light day.
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I see two very top wake locks have kept your phone from sleeping for an hour..
That is a significant amount.
Also, use cpuspy to see how hard it's been working.
I would try to get rid of those top two wake locks...
Oh crap! I didn't see them until you brought it to my attention. That explains some of the idle drain. I'll look into CPU Spy. You guys have been so helpful!
Your kernel wakelocks had no data, probably due to BBS being a fresh install. A full charge should set a proper reference point.
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I see two very top wake locks have kept your phone from sleeping for an hour..
That is a significant amount.
Also, use cpuspy to see how hard it's been working.
I would try to get rid of those top two wake locks...
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I don't think anything can be done about system logging as far as I have found.
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I don't think anything can be done about system logging as far as I have found.
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If something's holding that many log wakelocks, something might be spamming a log somewhere.
I can't find anything to help with those two either. Or would seem that the keyguard might have something to do with text messages, but I can't see anything that would spam the log. Where might I be able to read this log?
Also, I'll post my CPU spy stats toward the end of the night. It's looking like it spends most of its time at 500MHz.
@wrathofnero You can remove the triangle with a usb jig. Worked for me.
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How can I make my battery last longer? I am using set cpu and various profiles to give me the best optimization I can, however my phone barely makes it 10 hours with light use *1hr web browsing, avid txting, light music listening via music on phone ~ 1 hr as well.* I'm not faulting the phone. I just want to know what can be done to get the most out of the stock battery as I see people getting results twice as good as mine and just done get what I'm doing wrong here.
Thanks for the help in advanced.
I have the exact same problem as you. Are you using unnamed with Enthropy's experience kernal as well? I'm about to flash cm7 to see if I can get better results.
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I have the exact same problem as you. Are you using unnamed with Enthropy's experience kernal as well? I'm about to flash cm7 to see if I can get better results.
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I used cm7 for a while now using UnNamed and cm gave marginally better battey life but
Just use the dang phone . You dont need to do anything special for great battery life. Try a factory reset if theres a problem though. Im rooted on cog beta 4 getting amazing battery life. I talked my mom imto getting this phone over the new iphone and hers is completely stock and she knows nothing and doesnt close any apps and gets the same amazing battery life as i do.
Reset and use it. If you cant get through a day of heavy use the phone is defective.
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If you cant get through a day of heavy use the phone is defective.
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+1....or you have wakelocks. Find BetterBatteryStats and CPUSpy. BetterBatteryStats will tell you if something is preventing the device from going into deep sleep. I like to use "wakelocks since unplugged." CPUSpy will tell you the amount of time your device spends in each frequency, including deep sleep. For this, you'll need to reset the timers each time you unplug the phone.
Its add easy as flashing cm.... I went 15 hours and still had 60% left. with OC. Nothing else special (aka no juice defender our set CPU). The only trick is deleting everything in the dcim folder (known medias bug ) you'll see 1% battery loss per hour, with fb and GV sync
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+1....or you have wakelocks. Find BetterBatteryStats and CPUSpy. BetterBatteryStats will tell you if something is preventing the device from going into deep sleep. I like to use "wakelocks since unplugged." CPUSpy will tell you the amount of time your device spends in each frequency, including deep sleep. For this, you'll need to reset the timers each time you unplug the phone.
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BBS sometimes misses wakelocks, for even more info, grab the contents of /proc/wakelocks and post them here.
my solution: keep a charger with you anywhere you go
I have a car charger, home charger and work charger (as do most people)
Thanks for all the replies. I'm sure there's go to be a work around for this
Not sure about a workaround. From everything I've seen, the max battery life is around six hours when the screen is on. Basically, if your screen has been on for 4-5 hours, it's time for a recharge.
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Not sure about a workaround. From everything I've seen, the max battery life is around six hours when the screen is on. Basically, if your screen has been on for 4-5 hours, it's time for a recharge.
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Well based on all I've read it seems like the battery is a mixed bag depending on the OC profiles, roms and kernels being used with the device.
Is it true that setting a screen off profile in set cpu will cause the device to not be able to enter a deep sleep mode and thus will kill the battery faster?
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Alucardis666 said:
Well based on all I've read it seems like the battery is a mixed bag depending on the OC profiles, roms and kernels being used with the device.
Is it true that setting a screen off profile in set cpu will cause the device to not be able to enter a deep sleep mode and thus will kill the battery faster?
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Not true. It is true, however, that on stock kernels and ones without the "sleep of death" fix, setting a screen off profile with a clock limit lower than 800 MHz can cause "sleep of death" issues. Right now I think only my kernel and the Cyanogenmod kernel have the SoD fix.
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Not true. It is true, however, that on stock kernels and ones without the "sleep of death" fix, setting a screen off profile with a clock limit lower than 800 MHz can cause "sleep of death" issues. Right now I think only my kernel and the Cyanogenmod kernel have the SoD fix.
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Thanks for clearing that up
I'll post here as I don't have enough posts for the development forum yet.
I'm running Entropy's 16th exp kernal, and Cog4 and I noticed my battery draining far too fast, CPUSpy then showed that the phone simply isn't entering deep sleep. I had previously been undervolting with Voltage Control but I uninstalled the program just to be safe, still not deep sleeping. I also uninstalled Widgetlocker, and I don't think I have any apps that would cause infinite wakelock. What are some possible causes of this issue? Just so I have an idea where I should be changing things.
UPDATE: Reflashing the kernal fixed the problem for a while but then I reinstalled voltage control and now I seem to have it again. Uninstalling and reflashing again however, did not fix the problem. I am utterly confused
On another subject, has anyone actually noticed better battery life after undervolting?
Freaking SWEET! My battery lasted 33 hours and 13 minutes! I've only owned the phone for 3 days now and this is off of teh very 1st FULL charge! Usage was between light & moderate. Data sync on, Wifi On, GPS OFF, BT OFF, FB Data Sync OFF, Capacitative buttons set to light up only in the dark & NO haptic touchback...mmm, can't remember what else I tweaked at the moment but I think that's fantastic battery life! I'm upgrading from a G1 that couldn't last more than 17 hours when it was on standby ONLY with maybe 2 phonecalls and less than 20 text messages. I usually only averaged 6-8 hours and with SIMILAR usage in the last couple of days, I've been able to get 33+ HOURS? ^_^ <-- I'm very, very happy so far! This is on a stock root - NO custom ROM for me at the moment...I'm actually digging TouchWiz 4.0 which I thought I was going to hate when I played with the previous version of TW on the T-Mo Vibrant. (yes, my G1 was running CM 7.1 and battery life still sucked and I went through 2 different aftermarket batteries w/o any luck!)
Don't know what the voodoo in the programming is with this bad boy, but I think Sammy did a nice job this time!
The best thing you can do is having "Autostart" to prevent App to start automatically. I saved 25-30% on my SGS 1 and the same on my SGS 2 (i777). My son on the I9000 SGS 2 saved also 30%.
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The best thing you can do is having "Autostart" to prevent App to start automatically. I saved 25-30% on my SGS 1 and the same on my SGS 2 (i777). My son on the I9000 SGS 2 saved also 30%.
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Thanks for the tip
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I'll post here as I don't have enough posts for the development forum yet.
I'm running Entropy's 16th exp kernal, and Cog4 and I noticed my battery draining far too fast, CPUSpy then showed that the phone simply isn't entering deep sleep. I had previously been undervolting with Voltage Control but I uninstalled the program just to be safe, still not deep sleeping. I also uninstalled Widgetlocker, and I don't think I have any apps that would cause infinite wakelock. What are some possible causes of this issue? Just so I have an idea where I should be changing things.
UPDATE: Reflashing the kernal fixed the problem for a while but then I reinstalled voltage control and now I seem to have it again. Uninstalling and reflashing again however, did not fix the problem. I am utterly confused
On another subject, has anyone actually noticed better battery life after undervolting?
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Check for wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats, and if that doesn't find anything, do the following in an Android Terminal Emulator shell:
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cat /proc/wakelocks > /sdcard/wakelocks.txt
or better, using ADB (Google it and if you're on Windows, Droid Explorer)
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adb shell cat /proc/wakelocks > wakelocks.txt
Then post wakelocks.txt here
All the apps,camera n everything works on that rom? ??? I installed cm7 bt now stock it cuz some apps and camera app didn't work.
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I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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how much screen on time do u get?
Cozzeck said:
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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khaytsus said:
I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!!
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
I've been using the latest gingerbread builds and I'm having great battery life, But I notice when I use AOKP or any kind of ICS rom my battery life isnt so great..
Is there a specific kernel you people are using? and What kernel settings are working the best for you?
Thanks!
xamadeix said:
I've been using the latest gingerbread builds and I'm having great battery life, But I notice when I use AOKP or any kind of ICS rom my battery life isnt so great..
Is there a specific kernel you people are using? and What kernel settings are working the best for you?
Thanks!
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This turned into a vs thread which is no bueno
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xamadeix said:
I've been using the latest gingerbread builds and I'm having great battery life, But I notice when I use AOKP or any kind of ICS rom my battery life isnt so great..
Is there a specific kernel you people are using? and What kernel settings are working the best for you?
Thanks!
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Good news that you are not alone. Based on my premature calculation, only 10 out of 100 (that's 10% ) ICS ROM users have good - great battery life, meaning the rest is having worse. Mine is falling into that group. I never have great battery, only so-so and below average.
Also as Nick has mentioned, asking for which best is a NO NO here.
One might be good for me, doesn't mean it will be good for you and vice versa.
Try them all and pick one that best suite for you.
My 2 cents......I know you have read this several times - but battery life is really dependent on a lot of factors - your AT&T signal, rogue apps, data sync frequency, CPU governor etc. etc.
read Entropy's excelled thread on battery drain on this forum.
i tried out a few GB roms over the last few weeks and really did not notice any battery improvement over ICS.
Currently running cMIUI with xxkernel and it is really working out great as in the battery easily lasts for the whole day.
I remember when I was on stock GB I could go upto 2 days on single charge - but that may be due to the battery being brand new. I have read that the battery in SGS2 really degrades fast
I have 2% drain per hour when doing absolutely nothing, screen off, wifi off, gps off during 8 hours overnite.
While someone has reported having only 2% or 3% drain over 8 hours overnite.
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I have 2% drain per hour when doing absolutely nothing, screen off, wifi off, gps off during 8 hours overnite.
While someone has reported having only 2% or 3% drain over 8 hours overnite.
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Have you tried using "Better Batter Stats" to see what is causing the drain?
I have been using AOKP since Task brought it to us and I average 1% every two hours over nite.
Do you use the Facebook app? That sucker is hungry for your juice.
dschreiber69 said:
Have you tried using "Better Batter Stats" to see what is causing the drain?
I have been using AOKP since Task brought it to us and I average 1% every two hours over nite.
Do you use the Facebook app? That sucker is hungry for your juice.
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I got BBS v1.7 for a while, that was absolutely no help.
I installed BBS 1.8 for about a week. Based on their info, I got the "multipdp" along with some other things (such wake-lock) cranked up big time.
I read the Entropy thread, not much help.
Note: Wifi is off.
Maybe 3G/H+ keep toggling for sync process?
I do use facebook! haha. and I havent used better battery stats
dschreiber69 said:
Have you tried using "Better Batter Stats" to see what is causing the drain?
I have been using AOKP since Task brought it to us and I average 1% every two hours over nite.
Do you use the Facebook app? That sucker is hungry for your juice.
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I'd also recommend using CPU Spy in conjunction with Better Battery Stats to see if the phone is able to enter deep sleep.
I don't get as good as you. . .I average about 1% or less per hour overnight. But that's with wifi on, periodic syncing of 7 accounts, scheduled backups and cache cleaning going on.
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I got BBS v1.7 for a while, that was absolutely no help.
I installed BBS 1.8 for about a week. Based on their info, I got the "multipdp" along with some other things (such wake-lock) cranked up big time.
I read the Entropy thread, not much help.
Note: Wifi is off.
Maybe 3G/H+ keep toggling for sync process?
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My understanding is multipdp will show when apps are waking the radio to use cell data - each wake instance results in a minimum of 6 seconds of wakelock. Switching to wifi when you are idle "should" eliminate this wakelock.
I could be wrong here...dig into the known battery drainers thread from around the time the first ICS roms were being tried on the i777. There was some discussion of it...it is a renamed version of some other wakelock in GB.
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That's what I said, "maybe 3G/H+ toggling".
I believed that if I left wifi on overnite, do nothing, I still had 2% drain per hour.
Let me completely turn off data tonite and see how thing goes.
errrrr I have a huge problem with my battery. I've been testing various ICS roms and kernels(aokp, foxhound, serendipidity, fluxxi Kernel, siyah 3.4.3.,Neak) and all of them with the exception of serendipity w/siyah kernel, drain my battery real fast.
Not really sure what the problem is but when I look at what's been using the battery its most of the time either screen (which is understandable) and android os? I went to bed last night leaving my phone at 100% and woke up to find it at 52%. When I looked at what was using the battery it displayed, 93% android os and only 3% cell standby??(btw Foxhound ICS, Siyah Kernel) Maybe I have to many things updating/syncing?
When I first got my phone, 2-3% battery drain overnight was one of the things that amazed me about stock gingerbread on the i777.
I've flashed alot of roms since then, and so far, no ROM can even touch that stat.
I haven't got over 2 hours of screen on time in a hella long time. In my stats I'm not getting any strange results, screen is getting 60% and everything else is under 10% which is normal. I was getting very good battery life in gingerbread but ever since ics roms came out I haven't got anything good and its been a while. Why I think it might be my battery is because if its charging it will reach 110 degrees even if I'm leaving it alone. Screen brightness is under half and I've dropped about 5% just typing this out. Under moderate use the phone will seem to heat up more than it should, so I'm just looking for a little input
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I haven't got over 2 hours of screen on time in a hella long time. In my stats I'm not getting any strange results, screen is getting 60% and everything else is under 10% which is normal. I was getting very good battery life in gingerbread but ever since ics roms came out I haven't got anything good and its been a while. Why I think it might be my battery is because if its charging it will reach 110 degrees even if I'm leaving it alone. Screen brightness is under half and I've dropped about 5% just typing this out. Under moderate use the phone will seem to heat up more than it should, so I'm just looking for a little input
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I have seen many post that people talk about heat and battery drain after flashing an ICS ROM... So it might not be your battery, what ROM and kernel are you running does it do it with screen off and in deep sleeping? I have some more battery drain on ICS but never heat issues even watching HD videos wont heat up the phone. It sounds like you have an app spiking your CPU, try tuning on Show CPU usage in menu / system settings / developer options / Show CPU usage at idle with wifi on mine was approx. around 0.08/1.00/1.20 - 0.50/1.50/2.0 I hope some can give you more info how to check CPU info... GL here is a link to DL CPU Spy it might be able to help find the problem....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en
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Having flashed a lot of ROMs and Kernels, if they don't work well together (and sometimes if they do) your battery life is severely impacted. Since the change came when you updates to ICS, it seems likely thats the cause. Try finding kernels that allow you to use SetCPU or another regulator. You can set power modes to conserve battery, set a scheduler, and most importantly, set up profiles to keep it from heating up!
In short, search the forums for good ROMs, there are no shortage and some are designed to be battery friendly, best of luck!
PS. sometimes after flashing a new ROM, your battery calibration will be off and you'll get wild fluctuations or usage. Some say you can do a process to recalibrate, others say it doesn't work, but it doesn't hurt to try it yourself.
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QUOTE=jamezz23;28479050]I haven't got over 2 hours of screen on time in a hella long time. In my stats I'm not getting any strange results, screen is getting 60% and everything else is under 10% which is normal. I was getting very good battery life in gingerbread but ever since ics roms came out I haven't got anything good and its been a while. Why I think it might be my battery is because if its charging it will reach 110 degrees even if I'm leaving it alone. Screen brightness is under half and I've dropped about 5% just typing this out. Under moderate use the phone will seem to heat up more than it should, so I'm just looking for a little input
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I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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How much screen on time over how long and what kind of use?
60% is high but there's known bugs in android OS reporting.
I'm asking because you we're saying your new. It takes a lot of power to power this 4.8 screen
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I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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How often do your widgets that gather info refresh? Try scaling down on some widgets and see if that helps. If not, try to flash stock with odin and start over. I was having some problems with my phone when I first got it (MTP specifically) and I falshed stock and everything started working fine. Also, if you are using Google Chrome, make sure you have the experimental feature of using the gyroscope for tilt scrolling set to off....it is known to drain battery.
Hope this helps :good:
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How often do your widgets that gather info refresh? Try scaling down on some widgets and see if that helps. If not, try to flash stock with odin and start over. I was having some problems with my phone when I first got it (MTP specifically) and I falshed stock and everything started working fine. Also, if you are using Google Chrome, make sure you have the experimental feature of using the gyroscope for tilt scrolling set to off....it is known to drain battery.
Hope this helps :good:
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Maybe I will try flashing stock if I have time today. I reset my battery stats in recovery mode when I took the phone off the charger this morning, so we'll see how today goes.
I looked into the widgets and the only one that refreshes data on a schedule is the clock/weather. I'll try a different one or just not use the weather.
Great tip about Chrome. Didn't know it did that.
Do I actually need to calibrate the battery? I tried the method of letting it die and charge back up a few times and I've tried recharging once it gets down between 70-80 percents life. I'm not sure which method helped, but I did notice an improvement.
Thanks again for the help.
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How much screen on time over how long and what kind of use?
60% is high but there's known bugs in android OS reporting.
I'm asking because you we're saying your new. It takes a lot of power to power this 4.8 screen
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Not sure how to know how long the screen was on. Is there a way to know that? If I had to guess I'd say 4 hours. I use the Smart Stay option as well. I wonder if wiping the stats will give me more valid data.
Thank you for the help.
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Not sure how to know how long the screen was on. Is there a way to know that? If I had to guess I'd say 4 hours. I use the Smart Stay option as well. I wonder if wiping the stats will give me more valid data.
Thank you for the help.
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settings>battery>click on the gray use bar & you can see screen on time.
It is because you are running touchjizz. Cm and aokp are the best :highfive:
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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Great advice. Thanks. What do you use for "cpu sleeper"?
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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Never mind! Just searched" CPU sleeper" on the Play store and--voila!
On another note, I'm so glad I got a device with a huge support community. Coming from iOS, it's nice to feel part of a collective effort again and get such great advice. I know there are a lot of iOS forums and there is some great work done through those communities, but those seem so trivial compared to what is done through XDA and the level of helpfulness is unparalleled here.
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Great advice. Thanks. What do you use for "cpu sleeper"?
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Do I actually need to calibrate the battery? I tried the method of letting it die and charge back up a few times and I've tried recharging once it gets down between 70-80 percents life. I'm not sure which method helped, but I did notice an improvement.
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I read somewhere in the forum that these batteries actually like to be constantly charged up and not let die completely. There was no explanation for this but I will research it because I am curious. With my old Captivate, i let it die then fully charge to extend the overall life of the battery.
How is your battery so far?
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I read somewhere in the forum that these batteries actually like to be constantly charged up and not let die completely. There was no explanation for this but I will research it because I am curious. With my old Captivate, i let it die then fully charge to extend the overall life of the battery.
How is your battery so far?
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I've applied all the tricks folks have shared here and have flashed the Diet ICS rom. I am going to take screen shots of my usage data on a daily basis and see how things fair. I'll post my results here. Here is one from last night before really getting into all the tricks and the new rom. So, maybe this is my "before" shot in this documentary of a noob's journey to better battery life.
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I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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Have you tried using the CPU Sleeper app?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745516
I found that it does a great job of preserving battery life when the phone is in standby. I used to notice my battery draining really fast over short periods on standby (phone would be hot to the touch). After installing this, I have not encountered that problem again. I get 16-20 hours of use on moderate usage. LTE, gps, and sync are always enabled. I DO NOT have the phone in power saving mode and I seldom use wifi. I used to get 10-12 hours of battery life on the same usage before. I am running the rooted version of the stock rom from my carrier.
CPU sleeper app works great for me. I am in a non LTE area but get incredible battery life, last all day usually with around 50% left. An order of magnitude better than my SGS2
jauwad.arshad said:
Have you tried using the CPU Sleeper app?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745516
I found that it does a great job of preserving battery life when the phone is in standby. I used to notice my battery draining really fast over short periods on standby (phone would be hot to the touch). After installing this, I have not encountered that problem again. I get 16-20 hours of use on moderate usage. LTE, gps, and sync are always enabled. I DO NOT have the phone in power saving mode and I seldom use wifi. I used to get 10-12 hours of battery life on the same usage before. I am running the rooted version of the stock rom from my carrier.
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CPU sleeper app works great for me. I am in a non LTE area but get incredible battery life, last all day usually with around 50% left. An order of magnitude better than my SGS2
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I am using CPU Sleeper now, thanks to the advice of a previous poster on page 1. Good to hear it works for others.
I had the SGS2 as well and the S3 is definitely better.
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Hi all,
I also notice this and this were the steps that I did and seems to help me to reduce this process to like 5 %. I'm on Sprint S3 but should be the same for the all carriers.
Go ahead and open Talk application. You should see your account in green (I'm not using this application) then hit the menu and then select sigh Off. Make sure that your account changes to Offline (sometimes it is change back it self so open one more time make sure that it says Offline). Then what else I change is in wi-fi advanced options: under Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep I choose Only when plugged in option. then I reboot the phone and from now on (almost 2 days) my Android system process show up only 5% of usage and my battery life improve significantly. I hope this will helps.
Thanks
Those are great tips. Thanks. I will say I've gotten increasingly better life since employing other tips discussed here.
Something else I did was download a profile changing app. I got Quick Profiles, but anything should do. If anyone uses anything better, please share. I have a profile for power saving that turns down my brightness, and turns off wifi and Bluetooth. The app will let you put shortcuts on the home screen to instantly change the profile. I'd like to find one, however, that will also turn off gps and mobile data.