Sorry if i sound dumb, but i was trying to restart the TP but when i hold down the power button it only ask to shut down. Is there something i am missing?
Shutting down will power it off.
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dabels1961 said:
Shutting down will power it off.
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I am trying to restart the tablet, not turn it off. Is there a different method to restarting it?
Try the Quick Boot app from the market. It works for me.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
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Try the Quick Boot app from the market. It works for me.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
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that app requires root, and i still am stock - as i dont see a necessity to root
asus didnt implement a combination of buttons?
Not that I'm aware of. Look at the bright side, now you have an excuse to root.
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Not that I'm aware of. Look at the bright side, now you have an excuse to root.
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haha, what other advantages do i get for rooting?
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/10_reasons_root_your_android_device
* Titanium Backup
* AdFree
* Root Explorer
* Quick Boot
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http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/10_reasons_root_your_android_device
* Titanium Backup
* AdFree
* Root Explorer
* Quick Boot
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Thanks, what's adfree? the only other use i see for rooting is six axis, everything else seems phone worthy, my thunderbolt is rooting and tethering
edit: found adfree on market (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bigtincan.android.adfree&feature=search_result) - i am going to try on my phone first
I was also wondering if there was some sort of reset. Although, powering down and back up is fairly quick, so it's not that much of a problem for me.
Titanium backup and Chainfire is what I probably like best from rooting.
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I was also wondering if there was some sort of reset. Although, powering down and back up is fairly quick, so it's not that much of a problem for me.
Titanium backup and Chainfire is what I probably like best from rooting.
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i never found a good use for titanium yet, besides backing up
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i never found a good use for titanium yet, besides backing up
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Backing up is a pretty damn good use Especially when an app update causes crashes, I can revert to a previous working backup.
Freezing apps is also awesome. I can disable bloat without having to physically delete apps, and I can re-enable them when I want to do OTA updates.
Those two things alone make the premium license worth the price.
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Backing up is a pretty damn good use Especially when an app update causes crashes, I can revert to a previous working backup.
Freezing apps is also awesome. I can disable bloat without having to physically delete apps, and I can re-enable them when I want to do OTA updates.
Those two things alone make the premium license worth the price.
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i got a response on the transformer forums.
"Keep holding the power button (about 10-12 seconds) and the screen will go black, and then start back up. "
back to titanium, freezing apps essentially stops the apps from running in the background?
kls629 said:
i got a response on the transformer forums.
"Keep holding the power button (about 10-12 seconds) and the screen will go black, and then start back up. "
back to titanium, freezing apps essentially stops the apps from running in the background?
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Thanks for that piece of info!
Yes, freezing apps stops them from running in the background 99% of the time. The 1% of the time they don't stop running is when another app that isn't frozen opens them.
Freezing an app basically makes the system think it's not there, even though they are not physically deleted. Then OTA updating is as simple as unfreezing the apps.
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Does it actually work? And if it does, does it save a significant amount of battery?
Ive heard it works and I've heard it doesn't work I dont use it I get about 16 - 20 hours with moderate use using the freeze option in titanium backup pro this belongs in q&a btw
My bad on the Q&A part. But thanks for the help.
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Ive heard it works and I've heard it doesn't work I dont use it I get about 16 - 20 hours with moderate use using the freeze option in titanium backup pro this belongs in q&a btw
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How, using the freeze option in Ti Backup to freeze an app, save your battery?
Some apps don't stop running when you back out of them some system apps run all the time but are not needed freeze them and they won't eat your battery all day long .......longer battery life!
Sorry for the noob question but how do you figuer out which app is running all the time even when its not showing up in the default task manager. I would love to use this feature to get more juice out of my battery.
System panel is an app you can get and see what apps are running in the background and if there not crucial to the system freeze them I would ask someone before freezing anything though cause you could really screw up your phone and have to odin back to stock which isn't that bad just a pain in the ass
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System panel is an app you can get and see what apps are running in the background and if there not crucial to the system freeze them I would ask someone before freezing anything though cause you could really screw up your phone and have to odin back to stock which isn't that bad just a pain in the ass
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Yea I think I will do this...Thanks.
Not to get off topic, but does anyone have a list or recommend common apps to freeze? I see it mentioned a lot and everyone says ask someone before freezing, but I never see examples of what is safe and what is not.
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Freeze drm and samsung apps and media hub and then I freeze whatever apps I don't use cause some apps have core functionally if you freeze them you'll get f/c but I'll try to make a list of things I freeze and post it later
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Not to get off topic, but does anyone have a list or recommend common apps to freeze? I see it mentioned a lot and everyone says ask someone before freezing, but I never see examples of what is safe and what is not.
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I'm curious about this as well. Is there a good rule of thumb abou what things are not going to cause problems to freeze?
Now, I freeze the basic stuff, like Allshare, etc. because I don't use them, but I'd like to dig deeper into what services can actually be frozen as well.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8910035&postcount=31
Check this out. It helped me.
i frooze all of my bloatware and then noticed that i could use the market or see web pages in the browser....what should i have not done.... how to reverse it.
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i frooze all of my bloatware and then noticed that i could use the market or see web pages in the browser....what should i have not done.... how to reverse it.
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You may have froze something that wasn't bloatware, check again just to be sure.
Don't freeze more than a couple apps at a time, then use the phone as you normally would & see if everything works. That way if something goes wrong, it's much easier to figure out which is the essential app
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Don't freeze more than a couple apps at a time, then use the phone as you normally would & see if everything works. That way if something goes wrong, it's much easier to figure out which is the essential app
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ok got things working again, now i cant make or receive calls...this has sumthing to do with the LTE SWITCH
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the lte switch has nothing to do with phone calls since calls arent made over data. my advice? switch to a rom that is already debloated. save yourself the trouble
Can you list the apps you froze here?
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If you are still having connection problems
1. Unfreeze everything
2. Reboot
3. Turn on airplane mode
4. Turn off airplane mode
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Unfreeze half the apps you froze, see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't, freeze them again and unfreeze the other half.
Keep freezing half at a time, switching to the other half when you cause the problem again and you will very quickly identify which app is causing your issue when frozen.
If you start with 32 apps that you frozen and you freeze the wrong half every time following this process, you will track down the problem in just 10 steps.
Focus on one issue at at time, ie X either works or it doesn't.
If you have more than one issue just repeat the same procedure. You could try and track more than one issue at a time, but that makes a very simple process more complex.
Here is a list of confirmed bloatware that is safe to freeze/remove, just in case: http://forum.androidcentral.com/thu...afe-remove-once-rooted-how-put-them-back.html
Basically do not remove VZW Backup and Friend Stream
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i frooze all of my bloatware and then noticed that i could use the market or see web pages in the browser....what should i have not done.... how to reverse it.
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Did you do a backup before freezing any apps? If so, load the backup and start again by freezing a few at a time. Or you could just unfreeze all the apps you froze.
When I first rooted my phone I actually moved the apps off my phone onto my sdcard and renamed them. Now I'm running a custom rom and that is working great.
WTF? I had DLNA frozen because I never used it, and I just went through all my frozen apps and completely uninstalled them if I decided I REALLY didn't want them (and if I decided that having them frozen for a while hasn't caused any problems). I uninstalled DLNA and now it's constantly force closing...how the heck is that happening??? I've had to pull my battery just now, and I'm rebooting. Why wouldn't it do this while it was frozen...isn't freezing basically like uninstalling?
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WTF? I had DLNA frozen because I never used it, and I just went through all my frozen apps and completely uninstalled them if I decided I REALLY didn't want them (and if I decided that having them frozen for a while hasn't caused any problems). I uninstalled DLNA and now it's constantly force closing...how the heck is that happening??? I've had to pull my battery just now, and I'm rebooting. Why wouldn't it do this while it was frozen...isn't freezing basically like uninstalling?
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Never uninstall!! Check in one of Ken's roms if you can find the DLNA apn in the bloatware zip & install it again.
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Never uninstall!! Check in one of Ken's roms if you can find the DLNA apn in the bloatware zip & install it again.
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Well upon reboot I haven't seen any more problems, and it's been a while. But yeah you're right, I'm sure I'll open up another app or some process later on will call on DLNA and it'll start force closing again...
Anyway, I guess my concern is why it even did that? Don't most of the ROMs and P-ROMs us Atrix users have used get rid of bloat, including the DLNA app? And why didn't it do anything while it was frozen?
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Well upon reboot I haven't seen any more problems, and it's been a while. But yeah you're right, I'm sure I'll open up another app or some process later on will call on DLNA and it'll start force closing again...
Anyway, I guess my concern is why it even did that? Don't most of the ROMs and P-ROMs us Atrix users have used get rid of bloat, including the DLNA app? And why didn't it do anything while it was frozen?
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Fck knows mate. Samcripp quickly gave up trying to de-blur the damn thing for now, it won't be easy..
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Fck knows mate. Samcripp quickly gave up trying to de-blur the damn thing for now, it won't be easy..
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Haha, that's a fair answer. I just need to learn to not screw with this stuff in my attempts to preserve space or battery or whatever. All the more reason to ditch this for CM7 when it's completed
thebeardedchild said:
Haha, that's a fair answer. I just need to learn to not screw with this stuff in my attempts to preserve space or battery or whatever. All the more reason to ditch this for CM7 when it's completed
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Don't be too sure. Our guys have a lot cooking and I don't think everyone will jump ship to CM. I for one won't, at least not until I tried what our devs will cook. CM is great for outdated phones with lesser power.
We'll find out soon enough!
Did a recent factory reset a little while back and to be honest it seems l lost everything even though the backup function was supposed to be active .
Anyway, been considering a new factory reset and with that in mind looking for backup solutions etc. Note I'm not rooted or anything...
suggestions?
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Did a recent factory reset a little while back and to be honest it seems l lost everything even though the backup function was supposed to be active .
Anyway, been considering a new factory reset and with that in mind looking for backup solutions etc. Note I'm not rooted or anything...
suggestions?
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titanium backup all the way. its the best backup solution so long as you are rooted. you dont have to be unlocked to use it, just rooted.
If you are unlocked id suggest a nandroid backup.
hope this helps
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titanium backup all the way. its the best backup solution so long as you are rooted. you dont have to be unlocked to use it, just rooted.
If you are unlocked id suggest a nandroid backup.
hope this helps
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Problem is that ( as l mentioned ) I'm not rooted. Running JB so l can't root.
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Problem is that ( as l mentioned ) I'm not rooted. Running JB so l can't root.
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oh sorry i missed your end not. The asus backup app works fairly well
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oh sorry i missed your end not. The asus backup app works fairly well
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Asus app??
I'm either mucho blind or it's not on my tab...?
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Asus app??
I'm either mucho blind or it's not on my tab...?
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On JB, App Backup ( which also supposedly backs up app data as well ) is a factory installed program. Since you agree to the Asus bound EULA upon starting it up, im guessing its an ASUS app too
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Ahh, the app backup, will have to test that ASAP.
While on the subject, any other solutions? ( gona test app backup tonight)
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Ahh, the app backup, will have to test that ASAP.
While on the subject, any other solutions? ( gona test app backup tonight)
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Well, If you can unlock your bootloader, Id suggest TWRP to create entire dumps of your current setup. If im not mistaken, titanium can pull the data from cwm / twrp dumps and restore pretty much everything. If you need a hand with unlocking and installing TWRP, you can pm me and ill walk you through it. Its not terribly difficult although you will need a computer nearby.
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Well, If you can unlock your bootloader, Id suggest TWRP to create entire dumps of your current setup. If im not mistaken, titanium can pull the data from cwm / twrp dumps and restore pretty much everything. If you need a hand with unlocking and installing TWRP, you can pm me and ill walk you through it. Its not terribly difficult although you will need a computer nearby.
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I'm considering it, maybe even flash a custom rom. But i'm still within the warranty period...
I might just take you up on that offer btw... thx !
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I'm considering it, maybe even flash a custom rom. But i'm still within the warranty period...
I might just take you up on that offer btw... thx !
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No problem My understanding is that ASUS , while a pain in the A$$ with warranty issues, will still take care of hardware ones with an unlocked / modded tf201. They just wont cover it if you brick it yourself.
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pyraxiate said:
No problem My understanding is that ASUS , while a pain in the A$$ with warranty issues, will still take care of hardware ones with an unlocked / modded tf201. They just wont cover it if you brick it yourself.
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Can anyone confirm??
That changes the situation, and opens a whole new set of options.
Btw any recommendations with regards to custom roms? ( figured I'll ask even though it's off topic)
does anyone know if the app backup takes a backup of the home screen layouts etc??
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does anyone know if the app backup takes a backup of the home screen layouts etc??
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I use Apex Launcher which is damn close to the stock launcher. It has a backup settings / desktop content setting built in. Im not sure but check to see if there is an entry in the app backup program for "Launcher2". If so, you are good to go as thats the program name for the OEM launcher
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does anyone know if the app backup takes a backup of the home screen layouts etc??
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No, it doesn't take a backup of your home screen.
It does a pretty good job on backing apps and data, but you'll need to "rebuild" your home screen.
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does anyone know if the app backup takes a backup of the home screen layouts etc??
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no it doesnt, it only backs up apps and app date (some games wont work - i found this the hard way).
best thing to save home screen layouts is just take a screen shot and re-do.
hope this helps
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Can anyone confirm??
That changes the situation, and opens a whole new set of options.
Btw any recommendations with regards to custom roms? ( figured I'll ask even though it's off topic)
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i wouldnt rely on this from Asus, ive seen people with things which are clearly hardware issues and they wont fix or they have really had to fight for it. basically if you unlock id take it as asus wont support you, anything on top of that is a bonus. ive insured mine.
As has been said, no the ASUS app doesnt backup home screen layouts. My cell phone camera however does.
I just went through this 3 days ago when exchange stopped synching and all the removing and re-adding of the account did not help.
All my apps except ironically the stock browser didnt have favorites I had set and bad piggies was at square one.
It also didnt backup my VPN settings, pictures/videos, screen timeouts and most basic OS settings (weather loc, temp in F etc..). The cam stuff I copied off via USB sync.
Basically after the restore I got my apps back, but no icons. I then used the pics I took with my cell phone to redo the homescreen. Then I set up email, VPN, basic OS settings. Had to log in to many of the apps that were restored. Chrome saved bookmarks so I loaded those and copied the URL to ASUS browser to restore them.
so in short a very manual job one way or another. But seriously lads thanks for the tips... been considering RAM of my tab the past few days , and have tons of custom settings and apps that I'd like to keep. Kinda sad that no auto solution has poped up.
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so in short a very manual job one way or another. But seriously lads thanks for the tips... been considering RAM of my tab the past few days , and have tons of custom settings and apps that I'd like to keep. Kinda sad that no auto solution has poped up.
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Without root you cant get to those settings to restore and in a few cases read them.
Suggestions on how to save vpn settings?
What bloatware should I look to remove from my HAM2? Are there any Huawei specific apps that i can ditch? Thanks.
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What bloatware should I look to remove from my HAM2? Are there any Huawei specific apps that i can ditch? Thanks.
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I've removed these 7. Keep backups of them in case you want to update your system. The official update from Huawei checked for and patched these system apps. If they weren't found the update would fail. Restoring the apps fixed that problem.
Text list if you can't see the pictures:
Weather (HwWeatherClock.apk)
Twitter (Twitter.apk)
Navigate (ROUTE66.apk)
MOCALite 1.0.9 (HwMOCALite.apk)
Me Widget (HwMeWidget_MT2-L03.apk)
Get Asphalt 8 (GetAsphalt8_PGA1_HuaweiMate2_OpenMarket_v100.apk)
Facebook (Facebook.apk)
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Do I back up the apps using titanium back up?
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Do I back up the apps using titanium back up?
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Titanium Backup would work. Or App Master. Or manually back them up using ES File Explorer. As long as you have a backup that's all that matters. You'll need these system app backups for when the next update comes out (unless that update wipes everything out).
Delete Facebook
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I've removed these 7. Keep backups of them in case you want to update your system. The official update from Huawei checked for and patched these system apps. If they weren't found the update would fail. Restoring the apps fixed that problem.
Text list if you can't see the pictures:
Weather (HwWeatherClock.apk)
Twitter (Twitter.apk)
Navigate (ROUTE66.apk)
MOCALite 1.0.9 (HwMOCALite.apk)
Me Widget (HwMeWidget_MT2-L03.apk)
Get Asphalt 8 (GetAsphalt8_PGA1_HuaweiMate2_OpenMarket_v100.apk)
Facebook (Facebook.apk)
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Where can I find the Facebook app to delete it? I've gotten everything else. Thanks.
Honestly, I don't see a reason to remove any of these apps... they are in the system folders so you won't gain any space or anything, just disable them and you won't see them and any updates will still work fine without doing anything special.
TBH, compared to many phones, this list is very minimal.
I guess I just want more control. That's one of the reasons I choose to root my devices. It's OK to stay completely the way the phone comes, regardless of how much or little bloatware is on the device. It is up to the user to choose. That is one of the many reasons Why Android is so popular.
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Honestly, I don't see a reason to remove any of these apps... they are in the system folders so you won't gain any space or anything, just disable them and you won't see them and any updates will still work fine without doing anything special.
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This sounds like very good advice. Thanks acejavelin. I never really thought about it but since the apps are in a non-usable (for the user) partition, your recommendation makes perfect sense. I already pushed your Thanks button.
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I guess I just want more control. That's one of the reasons I choose to root my devices. It's OK to stay completely the way the phone comes, regardless of how much or little bloatware is on the device. It is up to the user to choose. That is one of the many reasons Why Android is so popular.
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Control of what? You don't get any control because the apps are in a separate partition that you can't use. In fact, you lose some control because when you delete the apps you can't get OTA.
Just freeze them so they can't run. There's no point deleting them. 7 seems trivial though. I froze more than 50 on mine. There's nothing from Huawei on my phone except the camera app.
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Just freeze them so they can't run. There's no point deleting them. 7 seems trivial though. I froze more than 50 on mine. There's nothing from Huawei on my phone except the camera app.
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I normally back them up so I can delete and save space. Should I need them later on it's simple to restore. But freezing them is a good method since it will let you know if it shall cause issues later on.
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I normally back them up so I can delete and save space. Should I need them later on it's simple to restore. But freezing them is a good method since it will let you know if it shall cause issues later on.
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Comment above has pointed out that you don't gain space by deleting system apps. Or rather, you gain unusable space.
If you do prefer delete/restore, remember to back up the data (tweak TiBu to backup full data cuz it will ignore data if data is larger than the apk itself). I had problems with Dialer/Phone and System UI apps without original data. Navigation bar will be lost (it is there but it can't be touched/controlled) and incoming calls cause crash.
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Comment above has pointed out that you don't gain space by deleting system apps. Or rather, you gain unusable space.
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One, you do gain space, two, that space is usable. An average user wouldn't seem to know how to take advantage of this it seems. But to me, I make use of it everyday. - @acejavelin
If you do prefer delete/restore, remember to back up the data (tweak TiBu to backup full data cuz it will ignore data if data is larger than the apk itself).
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I don't use TiBu. Never really cared for it. I use other methods more command-line based within the terminal emulator.
I had problems with Dialer/Phone and System UI apps without original data. Navigation bar will be lost (it is there but it can't be touched/controlled) and incoming calls cause crash.
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This is why it's good to know what to delete and not delete. If familiar with your device then it becomes second nature, but when jumping ship and getting a new device it is typically best to freeze and see the results. Although freezing is no different than saving and deleting. Only thing that distinguishes these two methods is when you freeze the system app, it's still there (and yes, using space). Where as when you keep it safe, say, your sdcard, then it's as simple as placing back, and/or if the particular file causes the device to go bonkers then TWRP makes it possible to fix the problem as well.