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I have not bought this, yet. Just wondering if the wifi issue is a issue or not?
Really? Search?
It's part of the reason why it's so hard to find one at a brick and mortar.
I think you would find a heck of a lot of information regarding your question if you did a search for wifi issues.
ON my Prime the wifi is very fast and shares the signal strength of my father's ipad1.
WIFI - what I found
I had my Prime along side my transformer. The Transformer needle buried to -40 dBm's where the Prime would lay between -50 and -60 dBm's and fluctuate also. I am finding the Transformer has better and stronger WiFi
The wifi issue WAS real. I do not have any issues with my unit.
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oh,its real alright!
I originally bought my wife a toshiba thrive and replaced it with the prime after a week.So far,she hates the prime saying that its much slower at everything it does,and i have to agree with her. But all that speed drop is related to the wifi problem...it disconnects randomly,and when connected,web browsing is sluggish compared to the to shiba. Also had a few fc when playing games wich resulted in having to reboot the prime.
Am trying to explain to her that there will be a solution to this problem pretty soon for sure. Please note that the tablet is updated to asus latest firmware and the wifi problem is not corrected.
My conclusion is that the prime was released too early,but im sure that the issues will be resolved by the goodfolks at asus,or by the geek studs here in the xda community.
So maybe the prime is not ready for the general public,but still very desirable for the techies at heart.
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oh,its real alright!
I originally bought my wife a toshiba thrive and replaced it with the prime after a week.So far,she hates the prime saying that its much slower at everything it does,and i have to agree with her. But all that speed drop is related to the wifi problem...it disconnects randomly,and when connected,web browsing is sluggish compared to the to shiba. Also had a few fc when playing games wich resulted in having to reboot the prime.
Am trying to explain to her that there will be a solution to this problem pretty soon for sure. Please note that the tablet is updated to asus latest firmware and the wifi problem is not corrected.
My conclusion is that the prime was released too early,but im sure that the issues will be resolved by the goodfolks at asus,or by the geek studs here in the xda community.
So maybe the prime is not ready for the general public,but still very desirable for the techies at heart.
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Play with your AP setting...channel, security, etc. I've had to fiddle with these for almost every new device I get, as annoying as that is.
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The Wifi on my Prime has been more reliable than the Wifi on my old TF1. It is stronger, probably thanks to the dual antenna system, and have had no problem in my house, at work, or any coffee shop. Speeds seems about the same other than the browser loading pages faster thanks to the Tegra 3.
I managed to buy one of the original pre-shipping units that had VERY inconsistent WiFi similar to what has been pointed out in online reviews - signal fluctuating between -40 and -75 on a wireless router in the same room.
Yesterday, I traded that unit for on in the first batch shipped to Gamestop and the difference is noticeable. Pretty steady signal strength between -38 and -45.
Wifi on mine is fine in my house, always pretty much full strength. I have a 4 story townhouse, with an AP on floor 2 and 4. The Prime connects much more reliably than my Galaxy Nexus.
No problemo with my TF201
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No problems on mine. Strong signal even way out in the yard.
Getting inconsistent signal on mines while being only five ft from.my router.
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I've tested mine along side my galaxy tab and they have the same WiFi strength in all areas of my house and even outside/garage etc...Picked my TFP up from GS on the 21st just for reference.
GPS on the other hand....not so great. Not so great meaning not working at all.
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The issue doesn't seem to be getting a signal, it seems to be maintaining it consistently. A couple of people have posted reports from Wi-Fi Analyzer showing there's a bunch of fluctuation on the Prime that doesn't appear on other devices compared side-by-side. That could be an issue when you're not at home and using sketchy signals at airports, restaurants, and hotels. It also would be invisible in things like browsing and downloads but a problem in streaming video or audio. Anyone checking or comparing Wi-Fi should do it using Wi-Fi Analyzer (or similar).
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The issue doesn't seem to be getting a signal, it seems to be maintaining it consistently. A couple of people have posted reports from Wi-Fi Analyzer showing there's a bunch of fluctuation on the Prime that doesn't appear on other devices compared side-by-side. That could be an issue when you're not at home and using sketchy signals at airports, restaurants, and hotels. It also would be invisible in things like browsing and downloads but a problem in streaming video or audio. Anyone checking or comparing Wi-Fi should do it using Wi-Fi Analyzer (or similar).
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I tested using wifi analyzer and have not noted any difference between my old school(but new) tab and my TFP. I have also not noticed any issue with youtube as of yet although I've only watched a video here and there. I have not done any testing away from home but I have used the prime tethered to my tab and evo with no issues so far. I will create a video if anyone is interested.
And again, sadly, GPS is a no-go.
Edit:// It should be noted too that my router is located centrally in my modest sized home. 1700 squaw feets. Or square even.
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Wifi on my prime works fine. connection strength is strong. no dropped signals or anything. seems right on par with my iPad. so in all I don't have any problems with my device or wifi.
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I've tested mine along side my galaxy tab and they have the same WiFi strength in all areas of my house and even outside/garage etc...Picked my TFP up from GS on the 21st just for reference.
GPS on the other hand....not so great. Not so great meaning not working at all.
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I haven't tested my GPS out yet. don't want to take this outside without a case
Guys, I'm averaging about -55dbm from my mobile hotspot. The Prime is right next to the phone. Should I be worried?
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Edit:// It should be noted too that my router is located centrally in my modest sized home. 1700 squaw feets. Or square even.
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1,700 square feet may be modest for TX but it's down right huge in some places. You guys should post what routers you're using too. Samsung devices have a particular distaste for D-Link and perform exceptionally well with NetGear. So it might be interesting to see if the Prime interacts with all routers the same way.
So I have good news. I have been e-mailing back and forth with a helpful ASUS Engineer for the past few hours. Gary Key put me in touch with him. Taking a cue from a comment the engineer made about pre-shipping and shipping versions of the hardware I sent the Engineer a photo of my label with Serial Number and all that fun stuff.
In previous posts I have speculated that I had a unit from the rumoured borked WiFi batch. You may recall some time back that one of the major reviewers got a bad WiFi review unit, and then was shipped a fixed WiFi version. Then a day or so later rumours of a production delay due to the WiFi issue arose. Then Amazon cancelled a bunch of orders that seemed to be all for the 32GB Grey version, the version I ordered, and the version I have. I had my suspicions and he confirmed them. I was shipped a unit that is of the "old HW". He is offering to exchange it. I plan to report as soon as I get a new unit.
This is bittersweet news for all of us with crappy Primes. I don't know if the version that was meant to ship has better GPS, but I know it is the version the Engineers say has no BT/WiFi issue. This means that an exchange should solve BT issues!!!
EDIT: I'm putting my part of my SN here for statistics.
TF201 Grey 32GB BBOKAS042XXX
BAD GPS
BAD WiFi
BAD BT
I urge others to list theirs. Perhaps we can determine bad batches. As I did, put the Color, Capacity and SN. Perhaps there are people who don't use BT who have one of the bad units who might want to exchange for the newer HW.
Is there any way to distinguish the two hardware versions by serial number or somesuch?
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Is there any way to distinguish the two hardware versions by serial number or somesuch?
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I think that's what he's going to report once he gets the new one...
Serial Number. The following is from the e-mail.
Hello David,
*By your TF201 serial number “BBOKAS042XXX”, I checked with our factory, it is not equipped with latest HW.
*Use latest HW, I cannot re-produce this issue.
My idea is: we replace your ATP by a new one that is equipped with latest HW. Do you accept my idea to resolve the bad situation you are suffering?
Thanks a million!
Regards,
XXXXXXX
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I have a champagne-gold version (32GB + dock) received yesterday, will check serial nr when I get back home, but wifi is crap on that one too... Going to contact asus about this as well.
Can he say if the UK Prime's have the new hardware? Since they are just arriving in UK and it's a 'new' product, having tablet and dock in one.
i just tested wifi & bluetooth on my german grey 32gb+dock transformer. download speeds were definitely slow as hell while i was transferring a file via bluetooth.
TF201 Grey 32GB BCOKAS067XXX
could you please ask that engineer if i got one from the fubar'd batch as well? my serial number is quite different from yours, but you never know..
I looked in settings but don't see the serial number. Where do you find it?
mine is bcokaso22 My wifi works but as well as my 6 year olds original prime, and a lot worse than my old samsung 10.1.. Mine is gold, and I have 6 pixels that are lighter in color and only noticeable on light screens and I have light bleed on dark screens. I got my prime on the 22nd and have gps labeled on my box. So I will wait it out little while before I go for an RMA. Its hard to keep with all the complaints on the tablet I hope I dont miss the solution when one is finally reached. I do love my prime its sexy and runs well, just wish the wifi was a little stronger and my screen problems. Have not tested the bluetooth
Well here is information I sent to him today.
TF101 WiFi On BT Off 52ms Ping | 18009kbps DOWN | 6702kbps UP
TF201 WiFi On BT Off 59ms Ping | 17372kbps DOWN | 6877kbps UP
TF101 WiFi on BT On 58ms Ping | 7805kbps DOWN | 6502kbps UP
TF201 WiFi on BT On 76ms Ping | 2895kbps DOWN | 3160kbps UP
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He had me test both my Transformers. Once with Wifi On and BT Off, and then With Wifi On and BT On/Paired/Playing a local MP3.
So in a bad unit you can see the problem. With BT Off the TF101 and TF201 are identical, TF201 even surpassing TF101 on occasion in my many many MANY speedtests. With BT On both devices suffer immensely but there is more to it. Not only does BT make the TF201 go from identical to performing at about 40% of the TF101, but the performance on the TF201 is degenerative. If I were to streaming music via Google Music or watching video with subsonic or Netflix, the speedtests would have gotten worse and worse until they failed altogether. Real world performance on the TF101 is transparent. I honestly never knew that BT hurt the TF101 performance so much because I never had reason to test it. If you have a bad TF201, using a bluetooth headset or any a2dp device, and streaming high quality video will show the problem within 5 minutes. Within 10-15 minutes your internet will fail altogether.
I don't know if I would want to post my serial number on the forum. Has Asus specifically stated which units have the old HW versus the new ones? If it is by the serial number they should be able to tell us which set of digits to look at to make sure we are affected or not.
I don't know. Am I the only one not buying the ASUS claim that they already have an updated Prime designed, tested, and in production? The units started shipping less than a month ago, and they already have updated models fixing issues that just started popping up about 2 weeks ago?
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mine is bcokaso22 My wifi works but as well as my 6 year olds original prime, and a lot worse than my old samsung 10.1.. Mine is gold, and I have 6 pixels that are lighter in color and only noticeable on light screens and I have light bleed on dark screens. I got my prime on the 22nd and have gps labeled on my box. So I will wait it out little while before I go for an RMA. Its hard to keep with all the complaints on the tablet I hope I dont miss the solution when one is finally reached. I do love my prime its sexy and runs well, just wish the wifi was a little stronger and my screen problems. Have not tested the bluetooth
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When you get time, please test the bluetooth. The issue is not poor WiFi performance. Though, the only time I use my WiFi at the outside of my routers performance is when I get home from work. I turn off tethering and switch to home WiFi while I am still in the driveway. I sometimes sit there streaming video for a few minutes while I pack everything back into my bag and prepare to get out of the car.
Basically I watch a video while I dismount my Garmin, windshield mount for phone, 12V cooler, etc. I deliver pizzas so my car is basically a mobile control center. With the TF101, the transition from tethering to home is fine. I just restart the video, track to where I was and continue watching. The TF201, night before last, worked for maybe two or 3 minutes before it started buffering more than it was playing. Granted this is with BT On and paired with my car stereo for the TF101, but for TF201 playing through the dinky speaker since BT turned on means no ability to watch video period.
Consider testing it if you have the hardware/software to do so. Teaching you to use subsonic can be troublesome. And Netflix, depending on the resilience of your home network might just lower the video quality repeatedly. In my testing it seems that any data load under 1000kbps won't completely trigger the fault that shuts wifi down completely.
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I don't know. Am I the only one not buying the ASUS claim that they already have an updated Prime designed, tested, and in production? The units started shipping less than a month ago, and they already have updated models fixing issues that just started popping up about 2 weeks ago?
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Well as I stated. Remember that there was a reviewer from one of the top sites that reported WiFi issues with their initial review unit. I think it was Anandtech. Then he was sent a second review unit that didn't have the issue. Anand reported the WiFi issue on December 1st. He followed up on December 15th.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5175/asus-transformer-prime-followup said:
The WiFi Story
I'm on my third Transformer Prime. The original sample was almost completely broken when it came to wireless connectivity. I had very little range on the integrated WiFi and performance typically hovered around 0.5Mbps, sometimes reaching as high as 2Mbps. ASUS originally claimed that no one else had this issue but it looks like the CNet reviewer also noticed it. That sample went back to ASUS for diagnosis but I don't have the results back from the autopsy yet. A simple guess would be an antenna that wasn't properly connected, although it could just as easily have been something more complicated.
ASUS overnighted me a second Transformer Prime; this one was tested at ASUS in California before making its way out to me. As I published earlier, I had issues with the second sample and any Apple wireless access points (Time Capsule or Airport Extreme). Using a Netgear AP I saw 16Mbps pretty consistently, but I could only get ~32Mbps if the tablet was at the right orientation with respect to the AP. ASUS' HQ eventually conceded that there might have been a problem with the second WiFi antenna on pre-production review samples. Apparently this issue was fixed in the retail lot, but may not have been addressed in what ASUS originally shipped us. Wait—second WiFi antenna?
It turns out that the Eee Pad Transformer Prime features WiFi antenna diversity. We've talked about antenna diversity most often with reference to the cellular chain on Apple's iPhone 4 and 4S, but here it's present on the Prime's WiFi. There are two antennas on the Transformer Prime, one located on either side of the front facing camera. In the second Transformer Prime sample, one of the two wasn't working. In my third review sample, taken from the retail lot that's on its way to vendors this week, both were fully functional. The result is peak WiFi performance that is virtually identical to the original Eee Pad Transformer.
There is no RF window on the back of the Prime where the two antennas are located. Aluminum does a fairly good job of attenuating RF signals, which contributes to worse range on WiFi than the original plastic Eee Pad Transformer. WiFi performance at the edge of reception as well as the maximum usable WiFi range are both noticeably lower than its predecessor. I'm still finalizing our tablet WiFi range tests to be able to quantify some of this stuff, but it's safe to say that if you were at the edge of WiFi coverage on the original Transformer, the Prime won't be any better.
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Anand has been incredibly useful in these last months. He reported on the truth of the 4G signal of the Galaxy Nexus, and he was good about illustrating WiFi issues on the Prime as he saw fit. It seems that some of the early units slipped their collars and made it out into the wild.
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Well as I stated. Remember that there was a reviewer from one of the top sites that reported WiFi issues with their initial review unit. I think it was Anandtech. Then he was sent a second review unit that didn't have the issue. Anand reported the WiFi issue on December 1st. He followed up on December 15th.
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True, but then why would ASUS ship the defective units if they knew they were defective, and had an updated version in the works that fixed all the issues? It just doesn't make sense, but who knows.
I thought you were telling everybody yesterday to return their prime.... Also, reporting ASUS to the BBB....... but now your their best tester buddy????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437567
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True, but then why would ASUS ship the defective units if they knew they were defective, and had an updated version in the works that fixed all the issues? It just doesn't make sense, but who knows.
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It makes plenty of sense and none at all. It depends on what the problem is. If there are a batch of units that suffer from poor manufacturing, perhaps at the time they shipped them the scope of the problem wasn't clear. Maybe they figured out that my batch was bad after it shipped out.
There is also the possible case of the Right hand not knowing what the Left hand is up to. For example Gary Key, "Technical Marketing Manager, I spoke to also knew my serial number but never made any mention of different HW versions. But the engineer, who would obviously be more intimate with the issue figured it out almost immediately.
Either way two versions in the wild actually makes it very clear why there is such a large disparity in user reports. Some people say GPS/BT/WiFi are just fine while others, ME, are having show-stopping technical difficulties.
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I thought you were telling everybody yesterday to return their prime.... Also, reporting ASUS to the BBB....... but now your their best tester buddy????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437567
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Indeed I was singing a different tune yesterday. I have always been a tester though. I have been in contact with Gary Key for 8 days and as of yesterday I had gotten to the end of my rope. He was playing middleman between myself and ASUS Engineering and it was getting on my nerves. He wasn't as detailed as I would have liked and kept reporting that they were unable to reproduce the issue. As I know this issue is not an isolated incident I felt like I was getting fed a load of crap.
Today, technically yesterday, he finally just put me through to an Engineer directly who managed to figure the problem out in hours. The engineer gave me more detail than Gary was relaying, which allowed me to give the Engineer more information to get to the bottom of it. When the Engineer mentioned that the problem was not present in the current HW, but mentioned a previous revision that had the problem, I decided to send him my serial number.
"What we've got here is (a) failure to communicate". This is why I said in the OP that I would report back as soon as I get a replacement unit. If they send me part of the new stock and the problem is gone, then I will report that. If the problem still exists I will rage against the man some more . To be fair I informed Gary the same time I posted that thread of my intentions. I am not yet rescinding my other thread. But I will add an update linking to this thread.
Excuse me for butting in, but I haven't seen one report of BT/WiFi working fine in unison from anyone who actually tested it when the Prime was actually paired.
After toying w/ the settings on my router, the WiFi performance alone on my Prime has been decent, but the BT vs WiFi issue is more than apparent. We're talking drops from 23 Mbps to 800 Kbps upon pairing.
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Excuse me for butting in, but I haven't seen one report of BT/WiFi working fine in unison from anyone who actually tested it when the Prime was actually paired.
After toying w/ the settings on my router, the WiFi performance alone on my Prime has been decent, but the BT vs WiFi issue is more than apparent. We're talking drops from 23 Mbps to 800 Kbps upon pairing.
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I have the same issue and will update this post when I get home from work. Wanted to stream Google music through blue tooth, but the connections crawls causing dropouts..
Hey guys,
it's me and my german Prime again. I want to share some of my impressions and findings with the ICS upgrade after some days of use.
First lets think again about the issues I had with HC:
Wifi range was worse than other devices (speed was way better btw)
HDMI screen mirroring was cut at the bottom
HDMI audio was only on the left channel
GPS not working at all (barely one single satellite)
Boottimes were horribly long (2 minutes or longer)
Bluetooth + Wifi lead to massive bandwidth drops
Touchpad was kinda crappy (two finger scrolling in mouse mode)
Okay, all these issues weren't really any kind of deal breaker for me, I really enjoyed my Prime since the .33 update (before the .33 the touchscreen really sucked)
I got (as I expected) my update somewhere around 8 PM PST on January 11.
The updated installed without any problems in about 10 minutes.
After ICS booted up I did a full wipe to ensure I have as less problems as possible.
Now lets talk again about the pre-ICS issues:
Wifi: Pre-ICS I was not able to connect to my home network due to the Prime not seeing it all. (Range issue)
This is now fixed with ICS. So in fact this means the Wifi range is better now (at least for me). The connection is also a bit more stable.
Both HDMI errors are gone now. Playing 720p and 1080p mkv files with DTS or AC3 sound works perfectly with Diceplayer.
Not a single issue anymore
Touchpad performance is way better now.
I can actually use the mouse mode now for scrolling etc. Nice!
Boottime almost halfed for me. It boots up way faster now.
Wasn't a big issue before, but nice to see they are making improvements here.
As several member here pointed out, the Bluetooth Wifi issue is not a Prime specific issue.
Every single other device I tested had exactly the same problem. No matter if a Desire, Desire HD, Lumia 800, even my Laptop to some extend...
So this "issue" is a non issue for me.
Now to the GPS part: (Please note that this issue is a non issue for me too, I don't care for my tablets GPS, it's only that I want everything to work).
It's actually too cold outside to test the GPS more than two minutes, but after this time I still can't see a single satellite...
So far I never had any kind of GPS lock with my Prime. I am not sure if it just needs more time...
I will test that later.
I tested the GPS for several hours now (actually I just put the thing outside under clear sky and let it rest there for some hours)
It searched constantly for GPS satellites using the "GPS Status" app and didn't find a single satellite. Not even one.
The only reason why I think I don't have a broken GPS chip/antenna is that I saw one satellite back in HC times...
Since then not a single satellite anymore. (Wifi on/off didn't make any difference btw)
As said above, I don't really care, so this totally faulty GPS (it really just doesn't show anything) is a really good point to return it some time later to get maybe a completely new one
I've found also several non-issue related things:
ICS just looks beautiful
Damn ICS is fast! Everything is just that important bit faster than HC. (not that HC was really slow, but ICS is just noticable faster)
The ASUS taskmanager widget just does not work at all.
It just shuts down as soon as you add it to your homescreen. That's a bit embarassing
Some other facts and information:
Do you know about the "Deactivate app" feature? (Settings->Apps->Click on single app) It's awesome!
You can deactivate (like freeze in titanium) almost every app on the prime. Even the system apps.
I deativated quite a bunch of them (about 20) and the system feels even faster now
I just tested my PS3 controller on the Prime. The native (via USB cable) support works quite well for GTA3 or Shadowgun.
Unfortunately the "Sixaxis" app is not completely compatible yet, touchprofiles won't work at all.
The dev already promised a fixed version for next week
The browser performance is really nice No lagging or skipping
After some fiddling around finally browser sync with chrome works too That's really cool! (I needed to delete chromes bookmark data first in google's dashboard, then resync my local chrome. After that the syncing to the Prime worked perfectly.)
So all in all I am super happy with the ICS update. There's still room for improvement, but ICS really made my Prime the device it should have been since the beginning.
My experience with my (DE SKU) Prime is almost the same. Though I had no WiFi issues prior to ICS.
I've only had mine since monday, so I only had 3 days to play with HC before ICS. But even I feel the difference. Everything is just smoother and more responsive. Especially the web browser. And it will actually sync your Chrome bookmarks now. Yay!
I'm exceptionally happy with my device. I bought it to keep me entertained with movies and games during my 2 hours of commuting every day. So far it's been too much fun to play with to get any gaming or movie watching done.
And I'm not sure if it's because my battery is being broken in, but I feel my battery life has gone up since ICS also.
But yes, Asus Taskmanager seems to be broken for me also. Chrashes as soon as it starts. That's the only negative thing I've seen since the ICS upgrade.
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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well, my prime actually picked up my university's wifi network and had a pretty good signal while my galaxy s2 struggled to even connect. at home, the prime is just a tad slower than my sgs2 when doing speedtests.
Hi Diamondback2010,
I got my Prime and at this moment debating if I'm going to stay with it. I'm on ICS and the issue for me is the skippy WiFi. I have a 50MB connection at home and all my other devices laptops, desktop have no issues whatsoever streaming media to tv however simply being 15ft from the router on the Prime I'm losing connection simply by browsing webpages and they take long to load. I don't have this problem even on my DHD.
For a WiFi only device WiFi is the most important aspect for me and the intended use is for traveling and connecting to different WiFi networks.
Perhaps the newer Prime would be more suitable for my needs that's coming in a few months time unless the current Prime can be made better or these issues I'm having resolved with a firmware update or something.
Also to mention I can replicate screen flickering on the Prime on ICS by using it for a while opening a dozen apps/webpages and tapping the recent items button makes the screen flicker on ICS.
This isn't very good plus the WiFi issue I might send it back, will further be testing today.
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This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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As much as I also love my SGS2, I've never felt it had particularly good wifi. So my Prime beats it nicely. Especially when it comes to the data flow from some distance (20-30 feet through 2 walls) where my SGS2 will have data drops using speed test, my Prime will see no such issues. And the Prime will have more than 10db better signal strength than my SGS2.
I know you asked for the GS2 or the TF101 but since I have neither of those I compared it to my HTC Wildfire which it beat quite comfortably.
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As much as I also love my SGS2, I've never felt it had particularly good wifi. So my Prime beats it nicely. Especially when it comes to the data flow from some distance (20-30 feet through 2 walls) where my SGS2 will have data drops using speed test, my Prime will see no such issues. And the Prime will have more than 10db better signal strength than my SGS2.
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That sounds great! I know the SGS2 isn't known for the best wifi, but it is good enough to get a connection where I normaly would use the prime. My TF101 is a little bit better than the SGS2. If the Prime is anywhere between those two, I will buy one! You convinced me
It doesn't release here in Norway untill the 30th, but I will get one then. We are only getting the Champagne gold one, originally I wanted the Amethyst more. Any of you got any impressions on the colors? What do you think of the champagne one?
Cernunnoz said:
This thread almost convinced me back into getting one... Can you compare the wifi range to anything? GPS I dont care about at all. My biggest gripe is the wifi range. How is it compared to the TF101 after ICS? Or even a Galaxy S2 if you have one of those? Both of them have good enough wifi range for me, if the prime is equal, then I will get one.
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ToneyEricsson said:
Hi Diamondback2010,
I got my Prime and at this moment debating if I'm going to stay with it. I'm on ICS and the issue for me is the skippy WiFi. I have a 50MB connection at home and all my other devices laptops, desktop have no issues whatsoever streaming media to tv however simply being 15ft from the router on the Prime I'm losing connection simply by browsing webpages and they take long to load. I don't have this problem even on my DHD.
For a WiFi only device WiFi is the most important aspect for me and the intended use is for traveling and connecting to different WiFi networks.
Perhaps the newer Prime would be more suitable for my needs that's coming in a few months time unless the current Prime can be made better or these issues I'm having resolved with a firmware update or something.
Also to mention I can replicate screen flickering on the Prime on ICS by using it for a while opening a dozen apps/webpages and tapping the recent items button makes the screen flicker on ICS.
This isn't very good plus the WiFi issue I might send it back, will further be testing today.
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Well I can compare it to my laptop and my Desire HD.
My laptop has a really good Wifi reception and it beats my Prime to death
But my Desire HD is a different story. The DHD does have a better range, but that is due to the fact that we (Virtuous Team, creator of the custom ROM I am running) tweaked the Wifi range way beyond stock levels, which leads to really crappy speeds at such ranges.
So in fact my Prime beats my DHD speed wise too. Only thing you really have to keep in mind, is that the Prime's connection is heavily orientation dependant. If the screen shows towards the router (or the general direction) it has quite a bit better recpetion as opposed to the backside towards the router.
I can't really replicate this with m DHD (at least not as much, DHD has Wifi antenna on the backside under a plastic RF window)
With HC I was a bit concerned about Wifi (only range, not the speed), after ICS this is gone.
One gripe is left, but this has something to do with ICS and not the Prime.
You are forced to have some kind of locking mechanism (pin, passwort, gesture) if you want to use an enterprise wifi with certificates (university network)...
That's a bit annyoing... :/
But it's the same on my Desire HD...
Diamondback said:
Well I can compare it to my laptop and my Desire HD.
My laptop has a really good Wifi reception and it beats my Prime to death
But my Desire HD is a different story. The DHD does have a better range, but that is due to the fact that we (Virtuous Team, creator of the custom ROM I am running) tweaked the Wifi range way beyond stock levels, which leads to really crappy speeds at such ranges.
So in fact my Prime beats my DHD speed wise too. Only thing you really have to keep in mind, is that the Prime's connection is heavily orientation dependant. If the screen shows towards the router (or the general direction) it has quite a bit better recpetion as opposed to the backside towards the router.
I can't really replicate this with m DHD (at least not as much, DHD has Wifi antenna on the backside under a plastic RF window)
With HC I was a bit concerned about Wifi (only range, not the speed), after ICS this is gone.
One gripe is left, but this has something to do with ICS and not the Prime.
You are forced to have some kind of locking mechanism (pin, passwort, gesture) if you want to use an enterprise wifi with certificates (university network)...
That's a bit annyoing... :/
But it's the same on my Desire HD...
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I have just been doing some WiFi tests with my HTC Desire HD (running Virtuous Affinity) and Asus Transformer Prime and this is what I'm not happy about
I have a 50MB connection and the desktop with a direct connection is getting 49Mbps so it is a true 50Mbps connection
Now for tests sitting right next to the router which is an N-series router
On my laptop I'm getting 34Mbps
On my HTC Desire HD I'm getting 18Mbps
On the Prime I'm getting 11Mbps
Now for outside in the garden going through 2 walls about 20ft away
On my laptop I'm getting 12Mbps
On my HTC Desire HD I'm getting 6Mbps
On my Prime I'm getting 1Mbps!
I have done this several times and the figures are consistent - this shows my Prime to be under performing compared to my other devices. I would expect the Prime to perform better than the Desire HD but it doesn't.
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I'm not experiencing that at all.. Within 10 feet (or right next to) my router I get over 40Mbps down/5Mbps up (I got a 50/5Mbit connection). This is with a Linksys E4200 v1 router.
20-30 feet away (around 7-10 meters) through 2 walls, I get around 10-14Mbps down/4Mbps up. This is almost the same as my old Netbook (Asus Eee first gen). And alot better than my SGS2.
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I'm not experiencing that at all.. Within 10 feet (or right next to) my router I get over 40Mbps down/5Mbps up (I got a 50/5Mbit connection). This is with a Linksys E4200 v1 router.
20-30 feet away (around 7-10 meters) through 2 walls, I get around 10-14Mbps down/4Mbps up. This is almost the same as my old Netbook (Asus Eee first gen). And alot better than my SGS2.
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I got one of them Asus Eee pad 1000HE's from years ago too and that performs better than my Prime does with WiFi.
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I got one of them Asus Eee pad 1000HE's from years ago too and that performs better than my Prime does with WiFi.
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It's better, but only by a tiny amount.. And nothing noticable for me when I do a speedtest (2-3Mbps difference and just as stable). I have to note, that my tests are through drywall, not brick.
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It's better, but only by a tiny amount.. And nothing noticable for me when I do a speedtest (2-3Mbps difference and just as stable). I have to note, that my tests are through drywall, not brick.
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My tests were through brick house walls. Thinking about it its quite amazing that the old Asus 1000HE netbook I have running Windows 7 which I upgraded it with has better WiFi than my Asus Transformer Prime...
I got the Prime for a similar use as the 1000HE for travelling abroad where I connect to loads of WiFi networks. With that low WiFi performance on the Prime I can see I'm going to have problems.
I'm debating to send it back and waiting for the newer Prime which maybe an improvement...
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Have you tried doing a factory reset? I've seen people say that their wifi was fixed after that. Please report back if you try.
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Have you tried doing a factory reset? I've seen people say that their wifi was fixed after that. Please report back if you try.
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I haven't tried a factory reset I will try it and see what happens.
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I'd deffinatly try a factory reset if I was you, as a last resort.. Brick/drywall aside. 11Mbps right next to the router is not right unless you got some serious interference going on.
Just trying a factory reset from settings. Would that be the only reset method to reset or is there some other method with a pin?
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I believe thats the way to do it yes.. The pin is only for force rebooting the device, not a data wipe.
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I believe thats the way to do it yes.. The pin is only for force rebooting the device, not a data wipe.
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I see just doing the data wipe from settings but I see after booting up ICS is showing 4.0.3 as current installed Android version so by the looks its only wiping user data and apps.
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By running the speed tests from the speedtest. net app the new update actually made my wifi speed slower . My connection is 40 / 5m . When I was on firmware. 11.1 I was getting about 5m down. Now I am getting about 1.5m down with the new .13 update. I thought the change log says that it increases wifi performance. Anyone else see slower speeds?
Also to put this in perspective I have my iPhone 4 running the same speedtest app and its getting almost 18m down in the same location as my prime.
Did you try a reboot then do tests again? Yeah the changelog does says it improves wifi on most devices. Still more updates coming though.
Yeah, it increases Wi-Fi performance but for some only and makes it worse for others.
I took mine back to the store earlier today and said I wanted a refund since they got none in stock. The salesman called someone to come over and he asked me to wait for this .13 update, claiming it will fix my Wi-Fi problem. Since I only wanted to exchange, I kept mine. Will report once I am able to update.
Yeah after playing with .13 for over 24 hours my wifi is worse for sure.
My net is 15k down and 2k up.
I live in a condo and can "see" 8-14 other wifi networks. (gads!)
I set mine up to be in the least busy channel
Did this test at 5am to have the least noise
next to router: (2 feet)
14,220 up 2142 down That is the same speed I get wired
Next room over, though 3 walls, bathroom and near a tv, access point, xbox, ps3, wii etc aka a ton of other wifi devices
near side of the room (10 -15 feet away)
13850 down 2113 up
Far side of room (8 feet more) so 15-20 feet away
3896 down 2132 up
4 feet outside my door (about 4-5 feet farther)
2370 down 2027 up
So the download speed is dropping like a rock, the upload speed is staying the same, but it's only 2k so hard to tell if it's being effected.
Thankfully I don't need to use it on my front doorstep a lot.
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Only other device i have to test same spots with is an iPod touch.
Next to router:
8418 down 2009up
near side next room:
8188 down 1995 up
Far side next room:
8150 down 2010 up
Outside:
5324 down 1986 up
So my old iPod touch has better wifi range.
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By running the speed tests from the speedtest. net app the new update actually made my wifi speed slower . My connection is 40 / 5m . When I was on firmware. 11.1 I was getting about 5m down. Now I am getting about 1.5m down with the new .13 update. I thought the change log says that it increases wifi performance. Anyone else see slower speeds?
Also to put this in perspective I have my iPhone 4 running the same speedtest app and its getting almost 18m down in the same location as my prime.
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I agree. My speeds were snappy quick (without bt) before this update. Now response times are slower. Asus is going in the wrong direction.
My speed is also down (per speedtest)but my range has been extended(per wifi anlr)and signal stronger. I dont get it I have the lowest Speedtest results since I got it in Dec.
Edit: Started uninstalling apps from the most recent DLs while doing Speedtests ..... and BINGO..... Got rid of Chrome and got all my speed back plus some... I dont get it but whatever Prime now working better than ever.
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Im running much better tested mine today after the update and I am getting 43.04 mb/s and 16.51 mb/s with a ping of 67 ms, pretty good for sure.
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Im running much better tested mine today after the update and I am getting 43.04 mb/s and 16.51 mb/s with a ping of 67 ms, pretty good for sure.
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Who's your provider?
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i was getting bad speeds after the update too, and random reboots, before the update everything was great. I did a factory reset and my wifi is great again and no more random reboots!
So how far is everyone away from there router? I only say that because the speeds are fine next to the router but from 10 to 15 feet they are horrible. I kinda wish I could downgrade to .11.1....
I give up. I've tried everything to get my TFP to get better wifi speeds from a distance and I haven't found anything that helps. I completely reconfigured my router, factory reset my device, uninstalled every single app I've downloaded and still whenever I get over 20 feet away from my router, my wifi speed drops below 2 mbps.
I'm starting to think the people without this issue have some crazy long range routers or something. I really love this tablet but I'm losing hope fast. ICS + tegra 3 is amazing, so I hope if I do return this there will be another similarly specced Tablet out soon. I can't go to ios.
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Im running much better tested mine today after the update and I am getting 43.04 mb/s and 16.51 mb/s with a ping of 67 ms, pretty good for sure.
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Is that a stock prime? no mods? Wow, that is the best speeds I have seen. How close are you to the router?
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I give up. I've tried everything to get my TFP to get better wifi speeds from a distance and I haven't found anything that helps. I completely reconfigured my router, factory reset my device, uninstalled every single app I've downloaded and still whenever I get over 20 feet away from my router, my wifi speed drops below 2 mbps.
I'm starting to think the people without this issue have some crazy long range routers or something. I really love this tablet but I'm losing hope fast. ICS + tegra 3 is amazing, so I hope if I do return this there will be another similarly specced Tablet out soon. I can't go to ios.
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I have a Bcokos model. What is your serial batch? I also I went outside and was only able to pick up 2 satellites.
maretus said:
I give up. I've tried everything to get my TFP to get better wifi speeds from a distance and I haven't found anything that helps. I completely reconfigured my router, factory reset my device, uninstalled every single app I've downloaded and still whenever I get over 20 feet away from my router, my wifi speed drops below 2 mbps.
I'm starting to think the people without this issue have some crazy long range routers or something. I really love this tablet but I'm losing hope fast. ICS + tegra 3 is amazing, so I hope if I do return this there will be another similarly specced Tablet out soon. I can't go to ios.
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find yourself a good ol fashioned Linksys bg router and your prime will work great with it
jdbaker82 said:
find yourself a good ol fashioned Linksys bg router and your prime will work great with it
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How's that? Why not N routers set to B/G? No, there's more to it than routers; Prime's the odd man out on being able to reach my street. Channels 1-11, Mixed, B, G, N, etc... It's always out of signal before the rest.
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How's that? Why not N routers set to B/G? No, there's more to it than routers; Prime's the odd man out on being able to reach my street. Channels 1-11, Mixed, B, G, N, etc... It's always out of signal before the rest.
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maybe your prime does have a serious issue then however I know for a fact my parents newer bgn netgear router wouldn't range past 10ft with the prime so I hooked up their old router and it works throughout the house
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maybe your prime does have a serious issue then however I know for a fact my parents newer bgn netgear router wouldn't range past 10ft with the prime so I hooked up their old router and it works throughout the house
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Throughout house. What kind of distance from router. I get a good thirty or so feet with the Prime while maintaining decent quality connection in regards to through-put; my phone get's about fourty-five, laptops about the same.
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How's that? Why not N routers set to B/G? No, there's more to it than routers; Prime's the odd man out on being able to reach my street. Channels 1-11, Mixed, B, G, N, etc... It's always out of signal before the rest.
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Try setting your router to G band only and a low frequency like channel1,2 or 3 and check range with wifi analyser.... if its not better its not gonna get better
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Throughout house. What kind of distance from router. I get a good thirty or so feet with the Prime while maintaining decent quality connection in regards to through-put; my phone get's about fourty-five, laptops about the same.
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No Primes get same range as other Wi-Fi devices I've tested 3 Primes now on several different routers dead spot comes about 10 ft before other Wi-Fi devices.... it's the aluminum backplate that's the culprit.
I've done a few tests with the speedtest app and compared it to my droid x and my macbook. Overall it is slightly better than my droid in dl speeds, but isn't even close to my macbook. Is this normal or should my prime get closer speeds to the laptop? Thanks for any help.
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I've done a few tests with the speedtest app and compared it to my droid x and my macbook. Overall it is slightly better than my droid in dl speeds, but isn't even close to my macbook. Is this normal or should my prime get closer speeds to the laptop? Thanks for any help.
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Without exception, all serial numbers have the exact same problems. You don't have to worry about having the problem, because, if you have a TFP, you have the problem.
JohnnyTA said:
I've done a few tests with the speedtest app and compared it to my droid x and my macbook. Overall it is slightly better than my droid in dl speeds, but isn't even close to my macbook. Is this normal or should my prime get closer speeds to the laptop? Thanks for any help.
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Usually laptops/desktops have much better wireless hardware and bigger antennas, so comparing it to a laptop doesn't make much sense.
To see whether you have a broken one just test your Wifi, if you are happy with it, you got a good one, if you don't like it it's broken
I'm slightly confused on this wifi issue that plagues this device, is it that the wifi can't be picked up from distances? (Short range) or is it that wifi is slow?
My wifi picks up fine, but I get less than 5 mbps average, when on my mytouch slide 4g I get over 12 easily..
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Without exception, all serial numbers have the exact same problems. You don't have to worry about having the problem, because, if you have a TFP, you have the problem.
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This isn't true at all. It is pretty well documented that some Prime's are more affected by WiFi problems than others.
In general if your WiFi is as fast as your Android phone (give its a fairly recent phone) and you can step away from your WiFi source by a fair distance then your WiFi is fine.
In general PCs will process data from a WiFi signal faster than a mobile device, so it isn't unusual for WiFi to appear faster on your laptop than on your tablet.
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This isn't true at all. It is pretty well documented that some Prime's are more affected by WiFi problems than others.
In general if your WiFi is as fast as your Android phone (give its a fairly recent phone) and you can step away from your WiFi source by a fair distance then your WiFi is fine.
In general PCs will process data from a WiFi signal faster than a mobile device, so it isn't unusual for WiFi to appear faster on your laptop than on your tablet.
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Agreed. My Prime performs just as well as my Samsung phone and I still haven't had a single place out and about in was unable to connect when I should be able to. My Prime can max out my throughput from my router from across the house through walls/doors just as much macbook pro can though the signal is weaker, strength is same on phone and Prime. This is with a unit I got in December too.