Been following HHGregg thread and have noticed everyone from there has less or no bleed, no ICS lockup issues, better WiFi range, and possibly better GPS signal. I know hands down it was much better then the one I got from Gamestop on Dec 23.
So if this is true like it appears to be don't tell me Asus didn't totally **** the bed on QualityControl and just rushed that **** out initially and while we are at it they MUST be using different hardware or firmware versions of something in the newer Primes.
Can this be confirmed with any other HHGregg customers and what are your serial batches?
Yeah.. a new firmware update was released recently, today. Ta-da... most, if not, all of my problems with asus prime ar gone .
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On a roll here this could be good news for future Primes.
Can you link to the selling page? cant find the item on their site...
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Can you link to the selling page? cant find the item on their site...
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you missed the boat bro they had them up last week for 2 hours for $399 price blunder and took them down not sure if they plan to sell again after that mishap.
wasnt that the open box primes? i remember a thread about cheap open boxed primes earlier...
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wasnt that the open box primes? i remember a thread about cheap open boxed primes earlier...
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Lol nope, brand-spanking new TF201s!
I got mine from them and am very satisfied overall. Everything works flawlessly so far. My GPS doesn't register half the satellites that my SG2 can but I don't mind. I still have not received the new GPS OTA update that everybody seems to be getting. I can't wait to get this update to see if my GPS improves
HHGregg prime owner here. Mine definitely has backlight bleed. Everything else works the same as it did with the one I bought at best buy. No improvement here.
Who is to say updates alone didn't make them better? how will you differentiate that?
I have Gamestop prime. No bleeds, lockup issues, great wifi etcc...n I have one of the first batches from 12/22. It is true some primes have different hardware or wifi cards in them. We won't know exactly which ones until Gary updates with some kind of chart or something showing which serial numbers have older hardware in them.
Jatkins, are u keeping your unit or are you trying to exchange? Mine had blacklight bleed that's driving me nuts
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Jatkins, are u keeping your unit or are you trying to exchange? Mine had blacklight bleed that's driving me nuts
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Exchanging. I talked to the manager at my local store yesterday. I just have to wait for stock.
I think I will call today and ask about an exchange. too bad there isn't a store around here. Did he mention when they would be getting more? Based on it being gone from their site I was worried they wouldn't ever get more
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I think I will call today and ask about an exchange. too bad there isn't a store around here. Did he mention when they would be getting more? Based on it being gone from their site I was worried they wouldn't ever get more
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He said the next purchase order was sometime around the 25th. I'm not sure whether he meant that I'm going to get one of those or not. One thing I specifically asked about and he confirmed was that if it took longer than the 30 days I have to return for them to get me a replacement, he would still honor it.
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Who is to say updates alone didn't make them better? how will you differentiate that?
I have Gamestop prime. No bleeds, lockup issues, great wifi etcc...n I have one of the first batches from 12/22. It is true some primes have different hardware or wifi cards in them. We won't know exactly which ones until Gary updates with some kind of chart or something showing which serial numbers have older hardware in them.
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All I am saying if NONE of the Primes from HHGregg has the reboot with ICS issue that tells us something...... patch hasn't fixed that yet.
I would think those that voted with problems would specify what or why looks like people may be just voting falsely
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I would think those that voted with problems would specify what or why looks like people may be just voting falsely
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I voted for minor issues, because mine has screen bleed lining the right side of the screen. If it was only visible during boot up or at max brightness it would be okay, but the only way for me to avoid seeing it on a black background is to have brightness around 25%. To me, not being able to have the brightness around 50% really feels limiting. I am on the fence about whether or not to exchange, honestly it will depend on how soon they are getting more.
I have heard some people here say that blacklight bleed on the top right is on every transformer, or you cant avoid blacklight bleed with an IPS screen, but I must completely disagree. Clearly, there are plenty of people who received "Perfect" TFP's without any light bleed at all.
I ask myself if i could live with the blacklight bleed, and I am not really sure. Then I ask myself if I would risk the exchange for the chance of getting a "perfect" one (which in my mind would include blacklight bleed to the extent of ONLY seeing it on bootup), and my answer is unequivocally, yes.
For those of you who say you can only see the bleed at bootup, does this mean if you open the app drawer (so the right side of the screen is black), do you see the light bleed? Mine is totally obvious unless the brightness is all the way down (which, hilariously, is what "autobrightness" does)
I'll post pictures later tonight for opinions
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Been following HHGregg thread and have noticed everyone from there has less or no bleed, no ICS lockup issues, better WiFi range, and possibly better GPS signal. I know hands down it was much better then the one I got from Gamestop on Dec 23.
So if this is true like it appears to be don't tell me Asus didn't totally **** the bed on QualityControl and just rushed that **** out initially and while we are at it they MUST be using different hardware or firmware versions of something in the newer Primes.
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The BJ's order was also very recent and I've heard no complaints from that thread. Mine came from there and is pristine.
got mine yesterday, after the firmware update, it shows the camera firmware update needed, and it won't update the camera firmware! no idea how to fix that.
small light bleeding on right hand side, not noticible unless i look for it
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I'm hearing nothing but problems. I hear the majority of primes have some form of defect. It seems to me that ASUS screwed up pretty royally with there launch.
I'm in canada and i have a preorder on some small time website. Whats the story? is it only these first few that have defects?
I doubt i would be able to return it to my retailer so im really worried about getting a defected model.
Most things are some small issues so worst that happens is you keep it for a few weeks until stocks fill up and can exchange
My hunch is that the first batch of Primes were defective. ASUS halted the shipment to Canada and delayed the shipment to the US so they could examine existing Prime inventory and correct the wifi problem. They likely had to open each prime to fix it, which likely caused new problems which seen reported here like the Prime screens bleeding light, and looseness, and markings on the basel.
Hopefully those who are waiting in pre-order hell will be the lucky ones who will get the next new batch of Primes fresh off the conveyor belt with the wifi problem fixed.
That's my hunch.
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screen bleeding, bad wifi, something else.. lol (not dead pixel, could care less)
plus a couple of peoples are just crapping out on them. those issues would bug the crap out of me.
and i couldn't return it to my provider, but could i return it to ASUS?
If your retailer had them in stock you could return it to them if not have to go through asus
As for issues don't worry many people have perfect tablets some just got unlucky Asus will sort it all out
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If your retailer had them in stock you could return it to them if not have to go through asus
As for issues don't worry many people have perfect tablets some just got unlucky Asus will sort it all out
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tell you what. my prime is perfect. not a problem at all.
Mines not. My gamestop prime has horrid wifi screen bleeding and no gps... It actually just rebooted after freezing while viewing this very thread... I just want the tablet to work... I hope gamestop will exchange it with a version thatcomes in jan or feb... Im not even a room over and i am between -70 and -80 on wifi analyzer.... Awful.... But i am willing to wait if it means i can get working prime
kinda makes me glad I didn't get a prime now. after going 4 tfs I wondered if asus could do better with their second Gen tablet... doesn't seem like they've done much qc this go round either.
guess I'll be getting another Sammy when they get released.
I've been using mine all day long, haven't noticed any problems with mine, no screen bleed...wifi works good for my situation, only thing I can see wrong is it looks like I may have one dead pixel but it doesn't bother me enough..plus if it does bother me ill just wait a little but for fresher models
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I'm actually glad I ordered my 64 GB now... once I accepted the fact that I wasn't going to get it before Christmas, I am glad and hopeful that some of these initial problems might be ironed out & better quality control put in place, in the next few weeks before I'm expected to receive mine; the rush to push the product out before the holidays being over now.
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My Prime is working great. Everything works well including wi-fi and GPS.
No bleeding, battery is great and no lagginess whatsoever, no matter what I am doing.
I doubt "the majority" have problems. It's just that people are more likely to post their problems with their Primes (in the hopes to get them fixed) than others whose Primes are working well.
It's certainly not a clean launch by any means. But to say the majority of Primes are defective is a jumping to conclusions.
If your unit is defective, return it for a new one.
Just got to open mine today for Christmas, although it arrived from Newegg 2 days ago. I also got the docking station. Knock on wood, mine seem to be working just fine so far.
heh...mine was working flawlessly...that is until I charged it to 100% and powered it off. It now will not turn on so I guess I got a nice shiny cutting board for Christmas.
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heh...mine was working flawlessly...that is until I charged it to 100% and powered it off. It now will not turn on so I guess I got a nice shiny cutting board for Christmas.
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Not to make light of the situation, but it probably would make a good cutting board - did you see the video of that guy cutting apples on the screen? You would need to make sure the juices don't ruin the circuit board, though.
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heh...mine was working flawlessly...that is until I charged it to 100% and powered it off. It now will not turn on so I guess I got a nice shiny cutting board for Christmas.
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You mean there's no pin-hole to do a hard reset like you could do on a smartphone or PDA?
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Not to make light of the situation, but it probably would make a good cutting board - did you see the video of that guy cutting apples on the screen? You would need to make sure the juices don't ruin the circuit board, though.
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Haha, yeah you're right... I do like to cook so I might as well get some use out of it.
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You mean there's no pin-hole to do a hard reset like you could do on a smartphone or PDA?
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Yup, just there is but it did nothing when I pushed it. The only life in the unit is a green LED when the charger's plugged into the wall. It doesn't even show up on my PC when I plug it in. Good and truly dead it seems.
At least I got a couple of hours out of it before it died. Other than the whole catastrophic power failure thing it was a real pleasure to use...except maybe for the vibration...it also seemed a little busted.
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Every new tablet had it's issue. Look at all the early threads for each tablet. Some people had issues, some people didn't. Your choice whether you want to venture down that road or wait. But what I have seen is that the later models, it has taken longer to get root because the development had the earlier models.
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Every new tablet had it's issue. Look at all the early threads for each tablet. Some people had issues, some people didn't. Your choice whether you want to venture down that road or wait. But what I have seen is that the later models, it has taken longer to get root because the development had the earlier models.
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this thread isnt about whether or not tablets normally come out with issues, its about whether i should take a chance, its about if theres a chance of defects in the later models.
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this thread isnt about whether or not tablets normally come out with issues, its about whether i should take a chance, its about if theres a chance of defects in the later models.
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And I answered you: Your choice whether you want to venture down that road or wait. There may or may not be defects down the road, we're not there yet so no one knows that answer, only Asus, maybe.
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I felt very fortunate last week when HHgreg apparently priced the prime incorrectly for $399.00. I immediately ordered one online and my local store had it in stock. First thing I did when I opened it up was to check for the ICS update and it started downloading it. My battery was at about 27% when the update started downloading and at around 20% when I attempted to install. After the install was complete I had the same issue as many others in that the screen banding was happening and so I called HHgreg to see if I could exchange it. The reason I mention battery % was that I had read somewhere that if the update was completed on a low battery that it could cause the issue that I experienced. They had one more in stock and allowed me to exchange. The next one I received was one with the serial number issue that would not even recognize there was an update available. I am now waiting on my third tablet to arrive but wandering if I should keep it. I hate to take it back seeing I got it for 349.00 after the 50.00 coupon but I dont see to many comments of people who are having no issues and are completely satisfied with the tablet. Please comment if its possible to have a prime that is functioning properly.
I also purchased my TP from HHgregg for 399. but i waited before I upgraded to ICS. I was nearly charged or i might have been fully charged. But the only Issue is my gps. wifi works from 35- 40 feet from the router anlong with my other 3 device's I use in my house. Been playing agry birds for hours not problem at all. Only once did it show that Baning issue when I started using the camera after the 4th picture it started. I shut the app down and restarted the prime. No problems using the camera app again so far. Never had a screen issue either. Ialso tested the wifi with my home router and my htc sensation how spot. both work fine.
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I felt very fortunate last week when HHgreg apparently priced the prime incorrectly for $399.00. I immediately ordered one online and my local store had it in stock. First thing I did when I opened it up was to check for the ICS update and it started downloading it. My battery was at about 27% when the update started downloading and at around 20% when I attempted to install. After the install was complete I had the same issue as many others in that the screen banding was happening and so I called HHgreg to see if I could exchange it. The reason I mention battery % was that I had read somewhere that if the update was completed on a low battery that it could cause the issue that I experienced. They had one more in stock and allowed me to exchange. The next one I received was one with the serial number issue that would not even recognize there was an update available. I am now waiting on my third tablet to arrive but wandering if I should keep it. I hate to take it back seeing I got it for 349.00 after the 50.00 coupon but I dont see to many comments of people who are having no issues and are completely satisfied with the tablet. Please comment if its possible to have a prime that is functioning properly.
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I love mine, it works BETTER after ICS and it's your own fault you got impatient and borked your first one. Us with working Primes don't come on here and *****.
We just watch everyone else and try to help when we can. Maybe it's karma that the second one didn't work...cuz you screwed up your first one.
So respect the equipment. Either way if you wait or don't, it's a nice tablet.
willowwave,
your probably right , I was very anxious to update because I've been using an Acer Iconia for a couple of months now and was really looking forward to the update. Has nothing to do with respect for the equipment, whatever that would mean, just didn't know it would cause an issue with the update. Really I'm not trying to *****, I've just read so much negative and not enough positive about the tablet. Thanks for your letting me know that yours is working perfectly. By the way, I do not believe in Karma, I would say its more likely providence.
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I love mine, it works BETTER after ICS and it's your own fault you got impatient and borked your first one. Us with working Primes don't come on here and *****.
We just watch everyone else and try to help when we can. Maybe it's karma that the second one didn't work...cuz you screwed up your first one.
So respect the equipment. Either way if you wait or don't, it's a nice tablet.
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It's not his fault that he got two units that wouldn't update correctly. While it's true that it's best practice to do upgrades either plugged into the mains or fully charged, if the tablet didn't actually run out of charge in the middle of the update I don't see how that could affect anything.
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willowwave,
your probably right , I was very anxious to update because I've been using an Acer Iconia for a couple of months now and was really looking forward to the update. Has nothing to do with respect for the equipment, whatever that would mean, just didn't know it would cause an issue with the update. Really I'm not trying to *****, I've just read so much negative and not enough positive about the tablet. Thanks for your letting me know that yours is working perfectly. By the way, I do not believe in Karma, I would say its more likely providence.
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Todd don't listen to him you did nothing wrong I updated to ICS as soon as I got my new one from HHGrregg with 20% battery life and it works perfectly fine with no lockups something is different in some Primes making this happen we just don't know what that is until Asus owns up to it.
PrimeTimeBro, thats good to hear, I really want to keep the device but unfortunately I've received two bugged devices. Hope that the next one is solid.
I had no problems with my TP during or after ICS install. There are other problems - but they had nothing to do with the firmware update.
No problems here.....other than dropping off my desk and cracking the screen in 2 places.
DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!!!!!!
Not your fault.....you just got 2 bad ones. I updated mine at 20% and have had no issues. Just return it and get one that works.....350 is still a lot to pay for a tablet that can't be updated.
I have returned two as well. Both had screen issues. I am still hoping to get a good one. I ordered two just in case this time from best buy. If i get 4 bad tablets I'm not sure what I will do... I really wish another company had the nice matching docks. I suppose i would continue this until either best buy bans me from buying more or the tf700 is released and i start the process over.
Don't worry, you will get one. Just keep returning them if there is problems. Asus will not tighten qc if people keep problem tablets. I am sure they directly correlate the % they accept as defective during manufacture to the number of returns they get.
I've yet to notice any problems with mine caused by the update. The only problem is that GPS still doesn't work lol but I wasn't expecting it to be fixed either.
EDIT: Forgot to mention the GPS works with WiFi, stuffs, but I can't connect to any satellites. Nothing new lol.
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I have returned two as well. Both had screen issues. I am still hoping to get a good one. I ordered two just in case this time from best buy. If i get 4 bad tablets I'm not sure what I will do... I really wish another company had the nice matching docks. I suppose i would continue this until either best buy bans me from buying more or the tf700 is released and i start the process over.
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Rofl this is classic I like your thinking
Fully Functional since day 1 with honeycomb. Still fully functional after ICS. WIFI is fine and GPS is shocking. Apart from a slight back light bleed in top right corner everything is great.
I feel sooo fortunate that i have a working Prime after reading pretty much every thread dedicated too faulty devices.
My name is Optimus Prime and I send this message..
one works great before and after the update. if you wanna read more about good devices, just read the Positive Transformer thread on General section.
Gotta admit, you're pretty nice and all, giving Asus so many chances.
I received a Champagne gold unit from Amazon, charged the battery up, connected to my Wifi and got the ICS update notification.
It loaded with zero problems and I have had no problems with it since then.
I cannot say if my TP has GPS issues because I have no expectation of using GPS on a Wifi only product. (.02)
No probs here just had one reboot using some app cant remember what
Just got to get a good case and protector from uk
I did have a few lock ups and random reboots after ICS, but a factory rest took care of all that. No issues anymore.
i still havent updated my hhgregg to ICS due to some games not running correctly. one of which is dead space. Once i finish that then i will probably update and hope i dont run into any issues.
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Ok, so I bought my Prime on 2/27 from Best Buy. I was very lucky because you can't find these things anywhere where I live and they seem to be sold out online in a lot of places as well. I got even more lucky because it was the only one in stock and was an open box item, so I got it for $50 bucks less.
Issues:
Of course the WiFi seems pretty crap weak, but it works good enough in my house.
I have 1 dead pixel, not really noticeable but still bugs me because I know its there.
Slight bit of screen bleed, but this might be impossible to get away from...
I have until Monday (14 days) to decide if I want to return it or not. I really do like it a lot. I am just questioning whether the Tegra 3 will be strong enough for the long haul and if there will be a fix for the WiFi anytime soon.
What would you do? Hold onto it, because it is a pretty great tablet? Or return it and hold out for a little bit for something better around the corner?
Thanks!
There is always something better round the corner, so if you are not happy with it send it back
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There is always something better round the corner, so if you are not happy with it send it back
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Yeah good point. I am just wondering if I bought at the point that the price might drop in a few weeks anyway because something better is coming.
Also, since the screen has just ONE bad pixel, I can't imagine that in the future, if I send it in for a WiFi fix that they would do anything about the screen would they?
mine has 6 bright pixels
the pixels developed lately, and would not go away with pixel fixer either. i am past return date now.
u should try pixel fixer though, to see if it works for u
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Same applies to the Wife...no 14 days policy thougth....
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Same applies to the Wife...no 14 days policy thougth....
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Yeah, my wife didn't have return window too. Neither I can send her anywhere for warranty repair.
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In my experience with several primes that the wifi thing is not on all of them. I've had a unit with a weaker wifi than another. My current one is good. I've also seen some with semi working gps (still doesnt work when driving). Also seen some with different variation in screen (warmer vs cooler). Also seen some with more light bleed than others. So if you really like the prime I'd say return it and get another one if you can find one somewhere else.
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In my experience with several primes that the wifi thing is not on all of them. I've had a unit with a weaker wifi than another. My current one is good. I've also seen some with semi working gps (still doesnt work when driving). Also seen some with different variation in screen (warmer vs cooler). Also seen some with more light bleed than others. So if you really like the prime I'd say return it and get another one if you can find one somewhere else.
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Yeah my WiFi definitely doesn't seem as bad as some people are complaining about. And my GPS can actually give my location when I am inside the house, so that is good too. I honestly don't care about the GPS. I will never need it for Navigation or anything, my phone does that just fine. I am mostly concerned about the WiFi (which apparently isn't that bad) and the screen. It seems like Asus has some pretty excellent support after reading some of Gary Key's posts, they should have a WiFi fix in soon and if I voice my concern I am sure that they will help me out. I am really leaning towards keeping it now...
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Yeah good point. I am just wondering if I bought at the point that the price might drop in a few weeks anyway because something better is coming.
Also, since the screen has just ONE bad pixel, I can't imagine that in the future, if I send it in for a WiFi fix that they would do anything about the screen would they?
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I would not expect the prime to drop price anytime in 2012 personally. Asus has already divulged their pricing scheme for the tf300 and infinity and the prime has its correct spot right in the middle. Current prices will hold through holiday 2012 mark my words.
If you like it keep it, if not return and wait for the next thing. There will always be something better coming with tech products. Only way to enjoy them is to choose what you want and jump in on that device and enjoy it unethical until it can no longer do what you obtained it for.
Personally I love my prime and nothing I see coming in 2012 entices me enough to even entertain the thought of selling or replacing it. I am confident it will be more than enough for me for at least a full year and probably 2.
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Ok, so I bought my Prime on 2/27 from Best Buy. I was very lucky because you can't find these things anywhere where I live and they seem to be sold out online in a lot of places as well. I got even more lucky because it was the only one in stock and was an open box item, so I got it for $50 bucks less.
Issues:
Of course the WiFi seems pretty crap weak, but it works good enough in my house.
I have 1 dead pixel, not really noticeable but still bugs me because I know its there.
Slight bit of screen bleed, but this might be impossible to get away from...
I have until Monday (14 days) to decide if I want to return it or not. I really do like it a lot. I am just questioning whether the Tegra 3 will be strong enough for the long haul and if there will be a fix for the WiFi anytime soon.
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With regard to dead pixels, I dunno why it bugs the hell outta some people. Mine has 2 bright pixels at the middle of the screen. But unless the screen is totally dark and the brightness is set to maximum, you cannot see them. In auto brightness mode, you can't see them at all, even on a black screen. Unless you are anal about this or use your prime at a distance of 1 centimeter, it shouldn't be a problem. Perhaps my bright pixel is not as bright as others. I dunno.
As far as WiFi is concerned, I don't care. Yes, speed tests reveal that my WiFi is slower than my phone's or laptop's. But I can download any file just as fast as on my phone/laptop. It is because not all sites offer you blazing fast download speeds. I can download stuff at a steady 1-1.3 MBps speed. Finally, with regard to screen bleed, I probably don't have it.
All in all, it is a very fast tablet. It is very capable and may be faster than iPad 3 (a.k.a. "The New iPad"). Though the new iPad has a quad core GPU, it has a dual core CPU and CPU is what matters on a daily basis... Anyway, I think i went off topic a little here.
Long story short, I don't think you really need to return the tablet. It is a very capable device. Hopefully "Ubuntu for Android" gets released soon on this!
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What would you do? Hold onto it, because it is a pretty great tablet? Or return it and hold out for a little bit for something better around the corner?
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If you do that, you'll have to wait indefinitely. Because, everytime a great tablet (or phone) comes out, there is always a better one coming round the corner...
tegra3 more than strong enough. new Ipad A5x chip is hype n uses exact same CPU as in ipad2. check out other thread for proof. tegra3 CPU is alot more powerful than either ipad2 A5 or ipad2 A5x chip(which only includes a slight Gpu performance increase which is needed for their new display).
I'd say keep it if you satisfied with it. if not, just exchange it.
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With regard to dead pixels, I dunno why it bugs the hell outta some people. Mine has 2 bright pixels at the middle of the screen. But unless the screen is totally dark and the brightness is set to maximum, you cannot see them. In auto brightness mode, you can't see them at all, even on a black screen. Unless you are anal about this or use your prime at a distance of 1 centimeter, it shouldn't be a problem. Perhaps my bright pixel is not as bright as others. I dunno.
As far as WiFi is concerned, I don't care. Yes, speed tests reveal that my WiFi is slower than my phone's or laptop's. But I can download any file just as fast as on my phone/laptop. It is because not all sites offer you blazing fast download speeds. I can download stuff at a steady 1-1.3 MBps speed. Finally, with regard to screen bleed, I probably don't have it.
All in all, it is a very fast tablet. It is very capable and may be faster than iPad 3 (a.k.a. "The New iPad"). Though the new iPad has a quad core GPU, it has a dual core CPU and CPU is what matters on a daily basis... Anyway, I think i went off topic a little here.
Long story short, I don't think you really need to return the tablet. It is a very capable device. Hopefully "Ubuntu for Android" gets released soon on this!
If you do that, you'll have to wait indefinitely. Because, everytime a great tablet (or phone) comes out, there is always a better one coming round the corner...
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Well I think that I am really anal then, because yeah, it does bug me unfortunately. I really do need to get over it because like you said, I know that if I were to show my tablet to 100 people, 99 of them wouldn't even be able to notice it. Mine isn't "bright" as you describe it, its just DEAD. So on an all white screen it stays black. Same with just about every other color. No Pixel fixer applications do anything to help either. As for the screen bleed, it is only mostly visible with a black screen. Its on the right side of the screen and when I push on it a little bit it changes a little. I really wonder what causes that...
Anyway, I have made up my mind that I am going to keep my Prime. I love it and there is no major reason why I should dump it at this point. Glad you all talked me out of it. By the way, I noticed that you are from the X2 forums with the Melvin signature... haha too bad we are stuck that turd of a phone... We had to buy a Transformer to get our fill of ICS! lol
Sort of off topic but not really: Since I did buy this Prime as an open box I just thought about the possibility that someone could have bought this before me, locked the bootloader and then returned it... I REALLY don't want that since I really want my 1 year warranty... Is there a way for me to easily tell if my Prime has been unlocked? Thanks!
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Well I think that I am really anal then, because yeah, it does bug me unfortunately. I really do need to get over it because like you said, I know that if I were to show my tablet to 100 people, 99 of them wouldn't even be able to notice it. Mine isn't "bright" as you describe it, its just DEAD. So on an all white screen it stays black. Same with just about every other color. No Pixel fixer applications do anything to help either. As for the screen bleed, it is only mostly visible with a black screen. Its on the right side of the screen and when I push on it a little bit it changes a little. I really wonder what causes that...
Anyway, I have made up my mind that I am going to keep my Prime. I love it and there is no major reason why I should dump it at this point. Glad you all talked me out of it. By the way, I noticed that you are from the X2 forums with the Melvin signature... haha too bad we are stuck that turd of a phone... We had to buy a Transformer to get our fill of ICS! lol
Sort of off topic but not really: Since I did buy this Prime as an open box I just thought about the possibility that someone could have bought this before me, locked the bootloader and then returned it... I REALLY don't want that since I really want my 1 year warranty... Is there a way for me to easily tell if my Prime has been unlocked? Thanks!
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If you use the Asus bootloader, then it's unlocked, or you can try calling Asus, and giving your Serial number and see if it's in there.
If you have big problem with it, just try to exchange it from where you bought it, or a brick and morter store.
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Well I think that I am really anal then, because yeah, it does bug me unfortunately. I really do need to get over it because like you said, I know that if I were to show my tablet to 100 people, 99 of them wouldn't even be able to notice it. Mine isn't "bright" as you describe it, its just DEAD. So on an all white screen it stays black. Same with just about every other color. No Pixel fixer applications do anything to help either. As for the screen bleed, it is only mostly visible with a black screen. Its on the right side of the screen and when I push on it a little bit it changes a little. I really wonder what causes that...
Anyway, I have made up my mind that I am going to keep my Prime. I love it and there is no major reason why I should dump it at this point. Glad you all talked me out of it. By the way, I noticed that you are from the X2 forums with the Melvin signature... haha too bad we are stuck that turd of a phone... We had to buy a Transformer to get our fill of ICS! lol
Sort of off topic but not really: Since I did buy this Prime as an open box I just thought about the possibility that someone could have bought this before me, locked the bootloader and then returned it... I REALLY don't want that since I really want my 1 year warranty... Is there a way for me to easily tell if my Prime has been unlocked? Thanks!
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I believe you can't re-lock it once it is unlocked. And I believe you can't return it on warranty claims once it is unlocked, unless may be you are lucky. What you can do is return it and buy it at bestbuy and ask for a price match with Micro center's price. I got $53 off my Prime! Bestbuy is rad, and I love the price match thingy.
And yeah, I am from the Droid X2 forums! I didn't buy this for filling the ICS void per se but it is sweet that this has ICS! It is super smooth, though I didn't have much experience with Honeycomb to tell if it is any better than it. Still very sexy stuff!!!
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I believe you can't re-lock it once it is unlocked. And I believe you can't return it on warranty claims once it is unlocked, unless may be you are lucky. What you can do is return it and buy it at bestbuy and ask for a price match with Micro center's price. I got $53 off my Prime! Bestbuy is rad, and I love the price match thingy.
And yeah, I am from the Droid X2 forums! I didn't buy this for filling the ICS void per se but it is sweet that this has ICS! It is super smooth, though I didn't have much experience with Honeycomb to tell if it is any better than it. Still very sexy stuff!!!
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To add on to the BestBuy thing, technically they require a microcenter store within 25 mile of where you live, but some agent doesn't know that.
I saw a pretty decent article the other day about upgrading the iPad but it seemed to apply well to other tablets, etc. it said to upgrade if you found yourself using it at least 10 hrs a week. it's wholly arbitrary, but the idea being, if you're going to spend 10+ hours a week with the Transformer it's worth keeping as your daily driver. It's a piece of tech that has become a part of your daily life.
There will always be something better within about 3 months in the Android tablet space. What I disagree with is that specs mean much outside Tegra 3s better video decoding and screen resolution that is probably going to get a lot better very soon.
First off, I think it's an awesome tablet, nice screen, damn quick, and custom rom running, it's great BUT as we know wifi/gps issues. I'm not jumping ship to the iPad because personally I think i'll probably end drowning than be saved, but let's not turn into ipad vs prime and whatnot.
I pretty much have 1 day left to return the prime to the store and I'm not 100% sure what to do, although I feel like I'll probably end up sticking with it as I'm not entirely convinced the TF700 will be that huge of a difference.
GPS: Nonexistent, couldn't get a lock at all:
Bluetooth: I tried sending some photos from my nexus while streaming pandora on the prime and it seemed ok but when accessing a page on tapatalk it felt like it was slower. I don't have a bluetooth mouse, or headset to test it better.
WiFi
I'm not exactly sure if my tablet is suffering from the WiFi weakness.
Here is the scenario:
I have two ap's at home on 2 different channels. One on first floor and one in basement.
I was pretty much right in the middle of them and I ran WiFi analyzer on both my galaxy nexus and the prime and to my surprise both had very similar dbm and both had very similar speed test results.
My galaxy nexus was averaging at about -80 dbm
My prime was averaging at about -70 dbm or so.....
My laptop was no surprise better.
BUT at work:
I'm using a tenants AP, it's a bit strange. (I work as security and yes they gave me permission and the key to use it)
Galaxy Nexus will average at about -89 dbm and it will have enough WiFi bars showing in blue and i will be able to use the connection and browse around.
Prime will average at about -80 dbm but it will not catch a connection for me to browse, the first and/or second bar will either stay gray or it will just drop the connection completely.
Meanwhile my laptop is fine. There is an occasional drop of connection on both nexus and laptop but I feel like the AP is to blame.
But then why isn't the prime getting a lock enough for me to browse even though dbm is better?
Any ideas? Is this a keeper?
Down the road I'm planning to get a dock for it aswell but not sure any issue would really affect my experience there.
Just return it if you are unsure then if you have regrets you can buy another
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Return it! This thing is just a ticking time bomb, and all Asus does is say hang in there, a fix is coming, meanwhile your 30 days are up in smoke and you have no choice but to keep it.
I wouldn't feel this way if the first Prime I bought didn't have a washed out screen along with all the other defects. Upon contacting Asus they basically told me to return it, so I did. I got a C2O model, champaign color, 64gb. It had gorgeous, vibrant colors, no light bleed, GPS that worked somewhat, wifi that was acceptable but still had the wifi/bluetooth problem.
Eight days later I was at a Chicago Rush game so my daughter could get her Spirit award for cheer. I was sitting in my seat, wiped my screen off because I wanted to record the event and noticed when the light shined on my screen what looked like very fine scratches on the black bezel. Upon further examination I noticed if I rotated my prime the scratches had a rainbow effect. In my head I went OH NO!, I am a jeweler and know what rainbow flash means, stress cracks.
This occurs all the time in gemstones, they get stressed during cutting or mining and the stress can get much worse or break, and thats whats happening to a lot of peoples Primes, while docked. Stress is causing their screens to break, which Asus chalks up to user abuse, BS. I treat my "Toys" with care, I don't have a lot of money to blow on thi stuff so it needs to last. I sold my First gen Ipad a month ago to help pay for this thing.
Good luck in whatever you decide, I know I loved my Prime but, man, I would be pissed at myself for seeing all the warning signs and not taking heed.
I'd return this one. Gary says something is coming in a couple of weeks....repair parts are arriving at ASUS....
I'd give ASUS about a month, first to see what the surprise is, and to give ASUS a chance to get any "changes" into inventory. Then buy your new one.
If you saw nothing truly wrong with your unit just keep it. I've had mines since 12/22 and had no issues at all. One of the first ones. All it took was my 1 purchase to get a great unit. Nothing will be better on Android or comparable till around end of June at the earliest.
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If you saw nothing truly wrong with your unit just keep it. I've had mines since 12/22 and had no issues at all. One of the first ones. All it took was my 1 purchase to get a great unit. Nothing will be better on Android or comparable till around end of June at the earliest.
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I have also had mine since christmas (BCOKAS serial) and honestly.. I have had nothing to complain about. It has gotten wifi everywhere I have wanted it to, the gps is there when I am outside (not that id ever use my tablet for gps), and the screen is b-e-a-utiful and SUPER bright. I bought the keyboard dock to go along with it, and the battery life is outstanding. I can use this baby all day and still have some battery life left when I go to bed.
In the end, though, it comes down to personal preference. ASUS has made a statement that there are repair parts coming... so worst comes to worse you can send it in to them.
Return it.
Either for exchange where hopefully you will get an additional amount of time to play with it and decide, or for cash.
If for cash you may have to wait a while for another to show up if you decide you can't live without it, or you can buy something less stressful.
I have finally decided that without the right software and ability to take handwritten notes properly that I don't care how cool, amazing and sexy the hardware is (and oh boy is it gorgeous hardware, especially with (then without, then with, etc) the keyboard dock. It just doesn't work regarding my use cases and specific needs.
Damn shame.
I can't say I didn't expect these responses. But ill admit it's a rough choice. If asus gets new parts I'm hoping they won't their customers in the dark.
I was quite shocked at the results from wifi range on phone and tablet and I think I'm kind of lucky.
Mine is a C10K serial. I'm not exactly how top notch the wifi is suppose to be so I don't have much to compare to but when comparing to my phone that gets great wifi reception, results are almost identical which simply makes me believe its fine.
If the screen cracks, well I bought warranty for a reason. Ultimate decision will probably be tomorrow morning and ill see how I feel when I pick it up
You're running a custom rom, so you unlocked the bootloader, voided warranty.
Are you sure returning the Prime is actually still an option?
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YoMarK said:
You're running a custom rom, so you unlocked the bootloader, voided warranty.
Are you sure returning the Prime is actually still an option?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA
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Let me ask you if they'll know or check :-D
I never noticed a problem with the TFP WiFi when I had one. Granted, I wasn't comparing side by side with another device - I was just using the TFP, and WiFI signal never bothered me.
Totally ignoring the comparison with your Nexus, does the WiFi connection cause you trouble? If so, return it. If not, keep it and enjoy.
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Let me ask you if they'll know or check :-D
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I've heard that the serial number is uploaded to them when you unlock.
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I've heard that the serial number is uploaded to them when you unlock.
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Yea it is, but i registered it, and ended up not liking it later
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Yea it is, but i registered it, and ended up not liking it later
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Not sure what you mean by this. When you unlock, your serial number gets marked in their system and your warranty is forever lost.
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Not sure what you mean by this. When you unlock, your serial number gets marked in their system and your warranty is forever lost.
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The serial number is for that specific tablet. If i return it to the store, and the store accepts. It is no longer my concern as they accepted it in the way it was.
If i decided to get another one, new serial.
If i keep it and it gets damaged somehow, and i get warranty replacement = new serial.
see what i mean?
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The serial number is for that specific tablet. If i return it to the store, and the store accepts. It is no longer my concern as they accepted it in the way it was.
If i decided to get another one, new serial.
If i keep it and it gets damaged somehow, and i get warranty replacement = new serial.
see what i mean?
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Oh yeah. For some reason I was thinking you would be sending it to ASUS. My apologies. Yeah, the store will have no idea.
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Oh yeah. For some reason I was thinking you would be sending it to ASUS. My apologies. Yeah, the store will have no idea.
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Last day tomorrow.....I still don't know, was on hold for 30 minutes with asus and nobody ever answered, will try again tomorrow.
I finally got one on number 6 that gets good WiFi I'm not letting this go but Bluetooth does drop WiFi down from 18mb/s same room as router Bluetooth takes it down to 3-4mb/s. So I go from 18mb/s down to 3 or 4mb/s with Bluetooth. I don't use Bluetooth that much though.
im going to be buying the prime this early December and i want to know if anyone knows what serial numbers relate to latest batch?
I just got what I believe to be a brand new Prime via an RMA warranty repair. The one they sent me has a CA****** series S/N.
But are you planning to buy one of these new? They have been discontinued as I am sure you know. At this point, you can get an Infinity for maybe a few bucks more than a Prime, I would go that route if I was you. They are a better all around performer in every area from everything I have read.
My fairly new one starts out C30KAS
I was surprised at all the anger on these forums when I came here because I wasnt experiencing all the problems others were. I can tell you though that the wifi is definately still not perfect.
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My fairly new one starts out C30KAS
I was surprised at all the anger on these forums when I came here because I wasnt experiencing all the problems others were. I can tell you though that the wifi is definately still not perfect.
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What kind of problems? speed or stability? My Desire HD phone is 65Mbps, i kinda expect more than that on the prime?
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I just got what I believe to be a brand new Prime via an RMA warranty repair. The one they sent me has a CA****** series S/N.
But are you planning to buy one of these new? They have been discontinued as I am sure you know. At this point, you can get an Infinity for maybe a few bucks more than a Prime, I would go that route if I was you. They are a better all around performer in every area from everything I have read.
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As much as i want the latest release I purchased Prime 2 hours ago
Infinity costs £599, Prime is £389 - no one should pay that much for a tablet, it has its own set of problems and limited stock. I worry if i go for it, it might turn up with a fault and then there will be no stock to exchange. I rather wait for another future release, faster CPU, usb 3.0 ports, 5Ghz wireless and etc...
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My fairly new one starts out C30KAS
I was surprised at all the anger on these forums when I came here because I wasnt experiencing all the problems others were. I can tell you though that the wifi is definately still not perfect.
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Mine has performed well also. I had to send my original BC series Prime in for the green camera issue and got a brand new one back from Asus. The wifi works perfect in my house, and my router is downstairs on the other side of the house so I don't have the weak wifi issue others have complained about. I use it at home about 95% of the time.
But that being said, if I was buying a new or lightly used tablet, I would get the latest and greatest. I'm still considering selling this one and upgrading just because I like to do that LOL.
i got one now, all works fine apart from issue with light bleed and slightly wobbly screen, amazon sending new one on monday, dont know how many i have to go through to get good one but the hardware is very very nice.
Its C5....... serial!