Text messaging issues...how many do you keep ? - HTC Amaze 4G

Im about to wipe all and start over with a new ROM.
Currently on Quick sense 1.5.1
Since day One this phone has had a weird habit of stalling on SMS.
If Im typing out a message the KB will lag as the incoming message comes in.
This has gotten worse with new ROM and accumulation of texts.
My outgoing message seems to just sit there for several seconds before it sends , and at least 4-5 times a day ((out of 100-150 texts a day)) Ill get a "message cant be delivered" and I have to resend.
At this point I have about 6000 text messages in my inbox. Coming from N1 I never had this issue at all. Does Sense perhaps have some weird messaging cache ? Are Handcent/GoSMS not optimized for sense ?
Im hesitant to wipe as its really the only issue with this ROM and hate to risk instability.
Suggestions..thoughts ?

I never worry about it..just back them all up (SMS Backup) to my Gmail and forgot about them. If I ever need to reference them I just do a quick search on my email. Any reason you aren't doing that?

I back them up via Mybackup Pro.
But theres no quick way to search them If I need to look something up.(zip files)
I would do the Gmail thing but feel its a privacy issue as I try to keep my gmail away from more personal info. ((I havent seen anywhere that Android logs my sms and phones home so still clinging to that hope))

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[Q]+[Poll] Android :: Repeat Notifications ::

Hi all,
There doesn't seem to be an option to switch off repeat notifications. Whenever I receive an email and I don't read it immediately, I'll get a repeat notification sound every 5 minutes or so until I acknowledge the email in some way.
I have looked to no avail, so am hoping that someone can point out where this option is. I have set up quiet time from 10PM - 7AM, but this isn't helping outside these quiet hours.
Hope you can help.
Thanks..
I think its a gmail bug. Except for me I get the messages report in winmo. Even if I delete them they come back. Fu!$&ng annoying. Even though I don't use winmo, I still see them if I have to do a restart or something
I've never bad this problem at all...
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I'm using an app called Improved Email. Not syncing to Gmail, but internal mail app grabs corporate exchange, improved mail to another exchange server and also a hotmail account. Still don't see an option to disable the repeat notifications..
Are you having this problem with Gmail, or a different mail app? Because there are a few bugs ive noticed with the Gmail app like mattfmartin said. Sometimes I wont receive an email in WM but the moment i boot up into Android i start getting notifications from old & new emails.
motoman234 said:
Are you having this problem with Gmail, or a different mail app? Because there are a few bugs ive noticed with the Gmail app like mattfmartin said. Sometimes I wont receive an email in WM but the moment i boot up into Android i start getting notifications from old & new emails.
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Hi, I don't use gmail at all. I don't have a problem receiving email either, its just that when I do receive emails the notification sounds keep sounding every 5 minutes until I go into the mail application and read them which I don't often have time to do so the repeat notification sounds become quite annoying after 15 minutes or so, especially at work where they annoy other work colleagues as well.
my phone beeps one time, then the orange light stays on until i check it..
this must be build specific.. perhaps post in the build thread.
I dont use gmail either. And I get the notification repeats for everything. It's especially annoying for voicemail, and it doesnt matter if I have new voicemail or not, I check all the messages and then the notification comes back 5-10 minutes later, then I check again and there are no new messages... It's just annoying really though, not that big of a deal...

Slowdown on more than 20 E-mails

Has anybody else problems with extreme slowdown when downloading more than 20 E-mails or so? The download itself goes slower and slower, and then it starts affecting the rest of the phone. I sometimes have to turn off the phone because it becomes totally unusable. I use the latest Energy ROM with Max Sense but I have had this for a long time.
No problem with my mail accounts, have downloaded close to 40 mails from one account without hanging/slowing. I too use Energy, tried latest 29007 & 29017 builds but for me 23699 Dinik is my choice due to better sense stability & software scrolling compatability.
What email account is it and is it IMAP or POP3 ?
I have never tried the Dinik ROM, maybe I should try it? I have never had any problems with instability, though. But I stay iwth the 21-series ROMs, the one with the bottom start menu clashes with so many of the standard programs that I use.
The account is a regular mail account with my E-mail services provider online.no, and I use POP3 to download. I tried just now to hard reset the phone and download the 126 messages that are on the account from today and yesterday without using anything HTC on the home screen, and this time they came like clockwork. So it's obvious it's something with the updating of the HTC stuff.
You hard reset & avoided HTC homescreen both in 1 test ?
So which one actually resolved it !
What programs do you have issues with on bottom start menu builds ? I use the 23699 as it is 100% compatable with all software I use. 29xxx is a pain & with no real benefits to me.
My account is POP3,also have IMAP account. All work fine via Sense menu Mail tab send/receive button. Hope you can eliminate this problem.
I know it isn't the hard reset, because I actually did that earlier and had the slowdown. Should have mentioned that, sorry. The hard reset is because I changed ROM today, so I can experiment a bit without having to do Sprite Backups and restores all the time. And I have to do a reset (I think...) to make the messaging system forget that those mails have been downloaded before.
I actually can't remember what programs I had problems with, but I have tried the 29xxx builds several times and always flashed into a 21xxx after a few hours. Last time I tried was last fall, and I haven't changed any of my core programs in 2-3 years (there are no updates to them), so I'm quite sure I can't use that now either.
But I see one difference here: You use the Sense mail tab. I don't. I only use the messaging tab and open the original Windows Mobile messaging. I really don't like the message system in HTC, and I even turn off threaded messaging. You can say that I'm a bit old (pushing 50) and set in my ways when it comes to what I like. Still I found out that the Max Sense build really fits me, so I have stuck with that. I'll try downloading mail with the mail tab and see if that changes anything. I'll be back with the result soon!
Nope, that did not help. I get the same slowdown after a new hard reset, and putting in the mail tab when it goes beyond 20 E-mails or so. I really wish I could find a solution for this, it's bugging the s...t out of me.
I get this too but only on a gprs connection. Hsdpa or wifi is fine. Also using an energy Rom.
Sent from my fingers to your face...
Yeh I too do not use threaded sms but I do like sense tabs for quick sms & email viewing although 99% of any mail task is handled directly within WM mail client.
Many of my apps never got updated for WM6 but they are all luckily working ok for me.
I use GPRS Edge mainly for mail checks & downloads. Have regular inbox amounts around 20 to mid 30s & never had an issue !
Are you downloading the whole mail or have you capped a limit in the settings ? might help you pending on your needs !
I have a 2 kb limit, so not the whole mail. What are you using?
I have 2KB for Hotmail account & 20KB on my work accounts.
Do you have same issues via WIFI/ActiveSync/GPRS connection methods !
If software conflicts are ruled out & it happens on all connection types it is either related to your mail provider server or more likely a slight problem with your chosen ROM flavour.
Always WiFi, never any other type of mail check. I have a mobile router in my car, and I'm in my home office 99 % of the work week, so I don't need anything else. I'm guessing that it's something with the Max Sense ROM. I tried downloading only the headers just now, and that only moved the slowdown fase to around 30 E-mails. So there is something weird here. I may have to try out one of the Cookie Home Tab ROMs even though I love the Max Sense way of doing things. I'll probably get back to the Max Sense, though. If I'm careful to download mail and delete it from the server with my computer I won't get over 10-15 mails.
Mmm, is their any way you could forward priority mail to another account specifically used on your device thus limiting mail you recieve ! I realize this may not suit your use but thought worth mentioning since of your love with current ROM.
I count myself lucky my favourite ROM flavour & older 23699 build works 99.9% perfect in my daily use ... good luck ...
No, there isn't. I'll just have to live with it, thanks.

SMS Lag

Did search and found this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306465&highlight=sms+lag
I think its one of my threads that have 5k messages, which is what is lagging me.
Rather not delete it and I do have SMS Backup but it does not save MMS (i think).
And more than often I look back at it using the search so I really rather keep it there.
Anyone know why its lagging or found a way to prevent it from going so slow?
Maybe modding a load previous messages according to date?
Sometimes it takes like 10-15 seconds to go back to home and 5 seconds to send a message.
PS. I rather not use gosms, I have tried it before and did not like it too much.
i prefer to use SMS Backup+, it will backup everything to your gmail account, including MMS. it cant restore MMS yet, but i dont care, since its all filed away nice and neatly in my gmail.
Pirateghost said:
i prefer to use SMS Backup+, it will backup everything to your gmail account, including MMS. it cant restore MMS yet, but i dont care, since its all filed away nice and neatly in my gmail.
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Thanks!
I'll give it a try but still looking for another solution so I don't have to delete them.

SMS Apps sending ghost texts?

Ok so am I the only one with this issue..?!?!
I like to use Emoji's so I tend to try out alternative text messaging apps and so far I've tried Handcent, GOSMS, Chomp, etc and they all do this.. When I go to send a text to someone, it goes to SOMEONE ELSE..!! And sometimes it will only say it went to someone else but it really went to the person who was supposed to get the text in the first place.. This can get very annoying, especially if a text for baby momma goes to new girlfriend, no bueno..!! Anyone have any luck with this..?? Also, I'm on MeanROM's latest release..
Try the usual, clear app data restart, clear data for all sms, you can back up the messages and restore after you see whether it helps or not. I haven't had this issue at all with any rom but there was a bug in Android that was fixed 2-3 releases ago. Closest thing i can think of would be that, but like I said it's supposed to have been fixed
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Try the usual, clear app data restart, clear data for all sms, you can back up the messages and restore after you see whether it helps or not. I haven't had this issue at all with any rom but there was a bug in Android that was fixed 2-3 releases ago. Closest thing i can think of would be that, but like I said it's supposed to have been fixed
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u mean goto settings/apps/messages and clear data right..?
Yes, it's worth a try
hmm, it would only let me clear cache..?? my sms messages still remained inbox..
Odd, you should always be able to clear data, do you have any texts locked. I don't think it would affect the ability to clear data from app settings but it is supposed to keep you from deleteing messages
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Odd, you should always be able to clear data, do you have any texts locked. I don't think it would affect the ability to clear data from app settings but it is supposed to keep you from deleteing messages
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nope, nothing is hidden/locked, etc.. it's a plain setup of meanrom out of the box.. only thing i've added is nova launcher..
Oh you mean stock then, I meant what ever app you use instead of stick lol
lol well yah I am stock now because the ghost messaging thing lured me into deletion of all third party apps hahaha..!!
FINALLY! Someone with the same freaking issue I have! I blame it on Sense since it handles the messaging.
Here's what happens:
Use Chomp or Go for text, text normally throughout the day. DELETE messages from people and randomly the next incoming text you receive *appears* to come from the person you whose texts you last deleted. If you don't pay attention and reply to the text, it will go to the WRONG person. For me, it happend to be in response to friends Facebook status updates since I USED to have Facebook text me when certain people updated their status. I quit using that Facebook feature when I texted my wife all the dirty and nasty things I was going to do to my wife when I got home from work, that I thought was going to her, went in reply to my friends status update. Yeah, that really happened.....and I didn't catch it.
If you use the stock app, the same thing happens, but with a slight difference.......
You can see the text come in as the last message you deleted, but it very rapidly changes to the contact it should be. You have to be holding your phone and looking at it in order to notice it.
When I use Chomp or Go, the SMS I'll get an SMS and it will stay as the wrong person until I kill and restart the app. So any texts I respond to go to the wrong person.
This has happened to me on all stock versions. I recently rooted and went to Meanrom and STILL get it. I switched to Handcent since they claim better integration with Sense and have not experienced the problem.
I have a topic in on the Sprint forums about this. I'd link to it but they're down right now. Look in there, it's near the top. Reply to it or start a new topic. This is indeed a BUG that needs fixed.
I think it's going relatively unnoticed because people blame Chomp or Go for the problem...........
I also faced the similar problem few months ago but I figured out the problem. basically the problem arise due to any draft msg or msg that havnt been sent and that msg is not visible in sms apps. to solve the problem try installing my phone explorer and then watchout for any sms that is in category other than recieved and sent, just delete that sms, restart phone and voilla problem solved...)

Random sms not received but sender got reports

Hey,
I'm having an issue and I'm not sure how to debug or where to seek for solution. Sender told me, that she sent me two messages, received reports, but I had received none. This is really hard to pick out, because if sender gots the report then he usually dont send the message again or tell me about it, unless it was an important message. I just installed Ghostly SMS app, but I'm not sure if it is the case, as my SGS should not be missing of ram, and I wasn't doing anything that would be using ram excessively (probably phone was just at the pocket at this time).
Any ideas how to find the source of such behaviour? My sim card is new, and I'm running omega v43.1 with stock kernel.
Thanks
Usually that is caused by your or the sender's network provider and not one of your device's.
I always notice it wheo sending from Germany to Luxembourg. I get SMS' like 8 hours later (if ever) but sender almost immediately gets the notification.
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Problem is that I'm not using a lot of sms so it is difficult to catch some regularities in such behaviour. But maybe there is something for which I could look in logcat?
If it's caused by your provider as I suspect then your device does not get the sms. Unless you have access to your provider's logs you can't read them.
I've had people call me on sim cards that were not in a device and have it ring through or Sms that were "received" by devices which were not powerd on for months. So yeah =)
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Ok, ghostly SMS just managed to restore 2 messages which didn't show in default messaging app. That makes me sure, that the phone actually receives these messages, so it's not the fault of the provider or sim card.
These 2 messages were received in a different time. After I noticed first one missing, I texted the sender to ask if she wrote me anything else, but she didn't and her answer was also received as a ghost sms. No huge resource consumming apps were running at this point - phone was on the desk with nothing running and screen turned off.
You could try a non-stock Sms app with a priority receiver, such as Go sms.
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Thanks, will give it a shot. But do you think that I should keep the default sms app? There's an option in go sms pro that it can handle messages if the stock app is uninstalled - I could do this using titanium backup or something and restore it in case of problems.
Ok, I did two things:
1. Tried installing Go sms pro along with stock message app - problem still occurs.
2. Tried uninstalling stock sms app and making go sms pro the only app which has to handle sms sending-receiving. But honestly I'm not sure about the results... First because ghostly sms is not working in such scenario, so I had no feedback from this app. Second is that nobody told me that I missed some messages and didn't answer.
So I'm stuck again and have no idea what to do. It happens on different network trans-receivers (I mean its not location dependent), also it is not sender-dependend (I miss even spam messages) and it's not sim-related because I had my sim changed. I believe that there must be something with the stock sms app, otherwise there wouldn't be apps like ghostly sms.
I have had similar issues chronically. Likewise found ghostly sms has received some that stock didn't receive.
In past I have found Go did no better. However, I have not rooted and did not remove stock app.
Among "power but non-root users", I don't think of myself as having lots of apps, but compared to more "normal" users, it is a lot. So I suspect that like me, you may encounter more memory issues than you are aware. I regularly run: facebook, fb messenger, accuweather, hacker keyboard, nitro touchdown, stock email (couple accounts), mypod, xabber, business calendar, stock browser.
Another observation though is the bloat that occurs in the messages database. I receive probably 20-50 messages each day that I can quickly delete (from automated monitor system). If I go to settings -> applications -> all, then I can see data and cache size for Messages is perhaps several MB. Clearing these, I then open Messages and it apparently rebuilds the database, as data size now quite reasonable. No messages lost. If I also reboot, it may send messages that it apparently thinks were not successful (sometimes it is correct, sometimes recipient reports it is a duplicate). However, after this, message delivery seems more reliable for a while.
Now, it doesn't take long for the unreliability to return, at least not 100%, so I will continue running ghostly. But with the occasional rebuild, I no longer have the situation where it seems I am losing most of my incoming, which I have seen.
So, it would seem that the messaging database can get corrupt or performance becomes so poor that it is effectively corrupt.
YMMV, obviously, but hopefully these observations help someone find the real problem. This is a very annoying and serious issue.
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Hey,
I've almost forgot about this thread. I managed to deal with the problem by removing V6 supercharger script from the Omega rom which I use and it seems that for a few weeks now I havent lost any message.
However in your case this must be something different. In information about messaging app I have that the app takes 4.17MB, Data takes 16kB and cache is 0B. Version of my messaging app is reported as 4.1.2.-I9300XXELLC
Garreth88 said:
Hey,
I've almost forgot about this thread. I managed to deal with the problem by removing V6 supercharger script from the Omega rom which I use and it seems that for a few weeks now I havent lost any message.
However in your case this must be something different. In information about messaging app I have that the app takes 4.17MB, Data takes 16kB and cache is 0B. Version of my messaging app is reported as 4.1.2.-I9300XXELLC
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I'm using Omega rom too and I have the same problem. I got all SMS with Ghostly SMS. I notice the problem appear after doing a Nandroid restore or Omega upgrade without full wipe. I will now remove supercharge to see what happen.
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cgaylord said:
I have had similar issues chronically. Likewise found ghostly sms has received some that stock didn't receive.
In past I have found Go did no better. However, I have not rooted and did not remove stock app.
Among "power but non-root users", I don't think of myself as having lots of apps, but compared to more "normal" users, it is a lot. So I suspect that like me, you may encounter more memory issues than you are aware. I regularly run: facebook, fb messenger, accuweather, hacker keyboard, nitro touchdown, stock email (couple accounts), mypod, xabber, business calendar, stock browser.
Another observation though is the bloat that occurs in the messages database. I receive probably 20-50 messages each day that I can quickly delete (from automated monitor system). If I go to settings -> applications -> all, then I can see data and cache size for Messages is perhaps several MB. Clearing these, I then open Messages and it apparently rebuilds the database, as data size now quite reasonable. No messages lost. If I also reboot, it may send messages that it apparently thinks were not successful (sometimes it is correct, sometimes recipient reports it is a duplicate). However, after this, message delivery seems more reliable for a while.
Now, it doesn't take long for the unreliability to return, at least not 100%, so I will continue running ghostly. But with the occasional rebuild, I no longer have the situation where it seems I am losing most of my incoming, which I have seen.
So, it would seem that the messaging database can get corrupt or performance becomes so poor that it is effectively corrupt.
YMMV, obviously, but hopefully these observations help someone find the real problem. This is a very annoying and serious issue.
Sent from my ADR6325 using xda app-developers app
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I tried the same thing (Clear data) for the SMS app didn't help.
Ghostly SMS work.
Like I just mention I will try to disable supercharge to see what happen.

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