Well, the Gallery3D is not entirely to my liking, so I include QuickPic in my ROM, but when trying to enter it gives me an error, saying "You should install the application from the market".
My question is, there is NO way to write QuickPic in ROM and install from the start as application, customers of the system?
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Well, the Gallery3D is not entirely to my liking, so I include QuickPic in my ROM, but when trying to enter it gives me an error, saying "You should install the application from the market".
My question is, there is NO way to write QuickPic in ROM and install from the start as application, customers of the system?
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As developers become better at development they will choose to have their application downloaded from the market. You could install it to /data/app possibly. I am guessing that written into the app is something that prevents you from doing what you are doing. Honestly market apps should stay in the market place. Its easy enough to download your own gallery and remove the current one. Or don't include the market app and write another application of suggested apps from the market for your rom. This way the app developers get their downloads and your users get their applications.
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As developers become better at development they will choose to have their application downloaded from the market. You could install it to /data/app possibly. I am guessing that written into the app is something that prevents you from doing what you are doing. Honestly market apps should stay in the market place. Its easy enough to download your own gallery and remove the current one. Or don't include the market app and write another application of suggested apps from the market for your rom. This way the app developers get their downloads and your users get their applications.
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Fixed: It's just a matter of putting the library needed to works in the gallery path /system/lib and voila, it works perfect.
juanitomigraña said:
Fixed: It's just a matter of putting the library needed to works in the gallery path /system/lib and voila, it works perfect.
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Sure, but now that Dev has one less download. These starts are important to android. When talking about wanting bigger and better applications they go by downloads sir. The more people downloading apps, the more developers see that there is a market for android. If not, they will continue to push to apple/ios first. I will always suggest to not doing this.
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Sure, but now that Dev has one less download. These starts are important to android. When talking about wanting bigger and better applications they go by downloads sir. The more people downloading apps, the more developers see that there is a market for android. If not, they will continue to push to apple/ios first. I will always suggest to not doing this.
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Hey man, relax. I am an apprentice chef, eager to learn, my ROM probably will not have a major departure, in fact I will post only on my personal website where apparently the only user with HTC Desire me, so I do not think it gets a lot discharges that might disturb the statistics of a developer.
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Hey man, relax. I am an apprentice chef, eager to learn, my ROM probably will not have a major departure, in fact I will post only on my personal website where apparently the only user with HTC Desire me, so I do not think it gets a lot discharges that might disturb the statistics of a developer.
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Not the point. Ethics.
As long as you put the app in /data/app you can get updates from the market. However usually if it's just in /system/app you wont be able to update it.
Ohh, great. I unknow this. Thanks.
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As long as you put the app in /data/app you can get updates from the market. However usually if it's just in /system/app you wont be able to update it.
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Yes, you can get updates. But that doesn't count toward the total download count.
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when i flashed cyanogen mod 7 last night the android market and other google related apps were not in my app drawer. If i download Latest gapps on the ROMs listing page will it fix this issue? its really annoying me i don't understand what the point of that is... anyways, if that will fix the problem, do i flash that entire zip as it were a rom, or do i explore it on my PC and copy over the apks to my SD card. please help
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when i flashed cyanogen mod 7 last night the android market and other google related apps were not in my app drawer. If i download Latest gapps on the ROMs listing page will it fix this issue? its really annoying me i don't understand what the point of that is... anyways, if that will fix the problem, do i flash that entire zip as it were a rom, or do i explore it on my PC and copy over the apks to my SD card. please help
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CM7 is straight Android with some reasonable improvements and modifications. No apps come with it but the bare essentials. Some people very much prefer it sans gapps, as the Google apps pack is know, because once it's in there it's like an octopus. To answer your question, yes, just download the gapps.zip and flash it as you would a ROM.
i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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The cm roms are not allowed to include gapps. Early on the original dev received a c&d order to stop putting them in, so now you flash them separate. It's not that hard, nor does it take long. Download rom, download gapps, download kernel if you want, flash all in recovery. Done.
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ElectroFetish said:
i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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No, it's not in any conceivable way a necessity for Android. There's many ways to install apps and different markets to use as well. MOST devs don't make habit of making as many personal choices for the user as humanly possible. Some people don't use Ti backup. A HUGE part of a custom ROM is not having to deal with the bloatware. Some consider all that crap you're talking about useless bloatware and CM7 is aimed squarely at the folks who'd consider Google apps unwanted bloatware. Why are you even trying it if you don't like it???
not wanting an app market to me is just plain stupid... whats the point of going that out of the way to put apps on your phone when you can download them in seconds with the market - the right way.. i tried it because i wanted to check it out but i just dont think it's for me and i'll probably just use a th3ory rom
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not wanting an app market to me is just plain stupid... whats the point of going that out of the way to put apps on your phone when you can download them in seconds with the market - the right way.. i tried it because i wanted to check it out but i just dont think it's for me and i'll probably just use a th3ory rom
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Yes. Please do. You're DEFINITELY NOT a CM7 kinda guy. And can ya do me a favor? Stop calling things you don't agree with stupid and presumptuously proclaiming what the "right way" is for something to be done? I can fully understand why someone might not want Market on their device. I've got plenty of apps I install from other sources. It's not like it's a big deal. You just install them, and it's faster than Market most of the time.
you mad bro?
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you mad bro?
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He's not mad, he's right. lol, you look like a real lazy guy. If you love market so much and don't want to flash gapps after cm7, you definitely don't belong to custom roms section as such. I'd recommend that you stop Modding your android and use stock rom that came with your phone.
Again, law prohibits use of weed and inclusion of gapps in cm7 by default. You got to learn to deal with things even if you don't like them.
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I don't use the market much anymore, everything I use I have backed up in Titanium Backup. One really nice thing about not having the market installed is I can use my apps without requiring a update first, this really annoys me especially when the update sucks and I want to re-install the previous version through Titanium Backup but can't use the previous version because there's an update. I add the apk's I want into the zip before I flash it, that take 2 seconds and its tailored to my liking, not the Dev/other users.
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you mad bro?
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Just not keen on the attitude. I'm not a huge fan of AOSP myself. It's just too spartan for me and I've never felt like building up a ROM to do what I've come to enjoy from Sense. My girlfriend thinks it's the best thing ever. I appreciate what it is, why she and others likes it, and why they develop it the way they do. I'm VERY glad it's out there because, as a project, Cyanogen contributes immensely to the Android community. Just doesn't seem like you respect CM for what it is.
Just flash the google apps zip in recovery and you'll get the market back she whatever else you want that google makes.
umm...wow @ this whole thread
Market still missing after flashed gapps
My market still missing even after I flashed gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip..how to solve this guys?
It's because of the lawyers
See here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
Technically no ROM can ship with Google's app bundle out of the box; you have to flash separately. CyanogenMod, being a much bigger organization than most ROM producers, have to be more by-the-book.
I have a tablet with android 2.3.5 on it, but I notice there are lots of apps written for android 3.0 honeycomb. I'd like to play with some of them, but the market tells me the apps are not compatible with my device. And it won't let me even download them.
Is there a way I can make my tablet report to the market that it's running 3.0?
Thanks.
Dan
Even if you did that, the apps still wouldn't work. They would just say "error parsing package" before even installing. If they "happened" to install, they would just force close on start.
Theonew said:
Even if you did that, the apps still wouldn't work. They would just say "error parsing package" before even installing. If they "happened" to install, they would just force close on start.
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I'm going to disagree with this. There are plenty of apps that don't work on certain devices according to the Market yet run perfectly fine on those devices. When it comes to apps made specifically for 3.0, you're more likely to run into problems with functionality, force closes, or screen size. Parsing errors are generally from a problem with the download or package itself, but I could be wrong.
Your options are to change the build.prop to read 3.0 (assuming that's how the Market discovers your build) or to download from another source. I don't know if Amazon does some type of device check or not, but you can try that.
If you decide to try editing your build.prop, back it up first just in case.
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Parsing errors are generally from a problem with the download or package itself, but I could be wrong.
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Yes, this is wrong (in some cases). Parsing package errors occur based on firmware version. If you tried to install an app made for Gingerbread on Froyo, you would get this error. Since the OP wants Honeycomb specific apps to be able to run on Gingerbread, this error is highly likely to occur. Even if the an app worked, then there would be major functionality problems.
I think I follow: if the functionality the app is expecting isn't there, then there *will* be a problem. That makes sense.
However, I have managed to get my hands on a Motorola utility (MotoPrint) from a xoom image I found on the web, that *did* work. Admittedly, it was either going to work or not.
In this instance, it piqued my interest. And made me think that the app creators *may* be, um, overselling the "newness" of their apps by promoting them as "honeycomb." And I just wanna play. XD
I've already tried editing build.prop to no avail tho. So that's why I'm soliciting ideas.
Dan
Try and sideload the apps in question? But as posted some apps that require HC will not run or run correctly on GB.
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However, I have managed to get my hands on a Motorola utility (MotoPrint) from a xoom image I found on the web, that *did* work. Admittedly, it was either going to work or not.
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You already figured it out
Okay then. Thanks for ringing in, everybody.
> You already figured it out. <
I always wonder if there's another way that my noob eyes and brain don't know. So thanks.
Dan
Golleeee. Ah sure am smurt!! XD
Dealing with apk files can be easier than the android market.
And everything is free if you know where to look *cough*
Based on your first post, google will not allow you to buy the apps you want, correct?
That's not a fault of anything you are doing. Google doesn't want you to buy those apps apparently. That doesn't mean you can't "get" them.
BenKranged said:
Based on your first post, google will not allow you to buy the apps you want, correct?
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All of the apps I have been viewing on Tablified are Honeycomb. Many are free. There are few nice ideas that I'd simply like to see if they work on my VeganGinger G-tab.
Google simply says the app is incompatible with my tablet, and greys out the install button.
So far, this is the most annoying thing in Android to me. Dammit, just let me try it. I know I may not get *all* the functionality. I'd just like to see if it's a tolerable thing for me. Without needing to jump thru hoops.
Dan
Welcome to fragmentation.
Heres a legal source for free apks.
http://androiddev.orkitra.com/download/apps/
On a sidenote I use a Galaxy S Captivate with 2.2 froyo.
There are some apps (games mostly that I have encountered) that will not run at all on less than android 2.3.x regardless of where you get the apk from.
So I can only assume the same is true with 2.3.x/3.x
Thanks! I appreciate it!
I have the apk for the 3.4.4 market. I froze the market updater but when I install the Market apk within 5 minutes it updates to play. Is there a way to prevent the upgrade?
What's the big deal with preventing the update? Looks like exactly the same market with a name change to me. Just wondering what I'm missing and in no way trying to be a jerk.
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You dont want to stop the update because if you do, you will not be able to get apps or update current apps with the old market.
Anything else that relies on the newer market will fail as well. I doubt you could stop it anyway..
Install an older version of the Market and use Titanium Backup to freeze the Market Updater...but there's no good reason to not update.
The new market is great! LOL, it is pretty much the same. The only difference if you have a tablet and that allowed you to purches music through the app. Again looks pretty much the same. New name
VoodooGTR said:
The new market is great! LOL, it is pretty much the same. The only difference if you have a tablet and that allowed you to purches music through the app. Again looks pretty much the same. New name
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personally the name change is annoying as all hell, google quit trying to program your brand name in my brain, when i want to buy and app or something i want to go to the market or to the store, not go to the google and pick up a new app.
every-time i'm in a rush trying to pull something from the app market i can't find the bloody icon because i'm looking for the market or in the old location on my app drawer, minor change i know but i have caught myself cussing at google when i needed to re-d/l my gps app after it crashed during a trip i as on a few days ago.
any chance of renaming the new app back to market without root?
Just use a launcher and if already do, just change the name duh..lol that's what I did ....
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I also would like to learn how to get around using Play. The new terms seem to allow Google to read my sms messages and record the message routing. I don't think my correspondents would appreciate having their thoughts being part of Google's repertoire.
bemyax said:
I also would like to learn how to get around using Play. The new terms seem to allow Google to read my sms messages and record the message routing.
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What conspiracy theorist cooked that up?
The only way to get around using Google Play is to not use android. What you're asking is the equivalent of saying you want to use an iDevice without the app store.
l7777 said:
What conspiracy theorist cooked that up?
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Here you go. Straight from the Dept. of Justice
www [dot] eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/easier-gov-access-cell-phone-records-cripples-privacy
Looks like Ill be going back to a simple phone as I agree with the previous poster... Google is requiring a full disclosure of everything you do. Not just GPS tracking...
Call me what you will...
You can download apps from other sites like blackmart
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Memory needs > any update
I have a very good reason for not wanting auto-upgrades. Radio Shack misled me about the HTC Wildfire S and now I've got jack for memory. I have four apps installed, use only the native message app, and I'm lucky to have 25mb free. Anything less than that and the phone works as well as the Pony Express does today.
FWIW, Tandybot told me I could always install apps on the SD card. In theory, yes, but so few app devs code apps to work in that manner. Lesson learned.
kite edit: SNIP! No need for that kind of attitude around here, I'm afraid.
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P.S. This site is unfriendly to the Nth. Registration took six or seven attempts. Captcha to write a post. I doubt I'll be back.
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You will be missed.
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good reason
freedom don't work on updated market
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
bird11 said:
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
gdrocks said:
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Well deleing them doesn't mean they aren't still there. I'd rather they not be there to begin with. But from your first point then yes that's all I really want it to do.
bird11 said:
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
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I am pretty sure there's a way to just not get it to install the google apps. gdrocks mentioned it in this thread. Something to do with getting rid of the zip file which contains them.
Making calls, sending messages and using the internet is all I need.
PsiPhiDan said:
CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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gdrocks has said you can get rid of the google stuff by removing the google apps zip. I have also read this in other places.
I don't consider google products an advantage. As somebody who doesn't use google products, not even their search. It's not something I really want. Unfortunatly the market doesn't really offer much else. Apple or android. Android should be a better option considering I should be able to use something that doesn't compromise my privacy from the start.
Thank you for the recommendations.
Android is based with google just like ios with apple.....well use custom roms and delete useless system apps !!!
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
Should've Gotten a Windows/Blackberry phone if you wanted a smartphone that doesn't the Google stuff. D:
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No, Cyanogenmod removes everything EXCEPT for the google stuff.
And we have CM10. Flash it if thats what you want
Get the blackberry or webos rom
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
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Simply put I'd like a device that has many of the same hardware features of the evo 4g lte while not having to worry about my privacy. I see android as an open source OS which if there was any ridiculous measure being taken by google or other companies it would be found quickly. Though you can't say the same for other apps which aren't open source. These may be from anybody, not specifically google.
I don't use google's products so their apps and integration don't appeal to me.
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
Android is pretty much Google.. if you want to remove everything Google.. buy a phone without Android..
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
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It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
Sorry, I misunderstood your point. I see what you meant now.
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It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
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Actually being open source makes it easier for devs on xda to discover privacy issues not being fully disclosed. Look what treve discovered about HTC. That was huge and it was just some amateur dev who shook up every company who used keystroke data logging.
And google isn't bloat. That's just a bizarre statement. Your phone runs google software. Period. You really should get a different phone.
Non google roms? I don't mean to be a douche but you really should change the title of this thread if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing wrong with having privacy concerns but that statement makes you look completely clueless
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Hello friends,
I wanted to alert everyone regarding what I discovered.
After latest firefox update I found out that-
Whenever I run Firefox app, it also runs Facebook app and facebook messenger.
Here is how I tested-
1) Kill the Facebook & Messenger totally by using the Force Stop option. For better, also Force Stop the Firefox .
2) Run Firefox again, and then check both the Facebook apps. You will see both the Poop-bags run back from the grave.
How? Why? I guess Firefox is sold out to Facebook too.
Now they are tampering the core too.
Yes I tried these steps, 3 times while writing this topic, to make sure whether my suspicion is valid or not. Yes it does exactly what I said.
Any one knows, how to stop this? (I know the solution some of you might give- Uninstall the Facebook apps.) . But before doing that
lets alert everyone and find out the solution, because this time Firefox is involved(sold out).
Which app permission should I disable to prevent this? (I am using Xprivacy, permission pro, app settings).
android 4.4 , Samsung 10.1 .
Thank you.
Anyone, noticed this? and know any solution?
You're accusing the Mozilla Foundation of possible illegal behavior. You'll need more than the odd behavior of one device to convince me.
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You're accusing the Mozilla Foundation of possible illegal behavior. You'll need more than the odd behavior of one device to convince me.
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Hello,
I am not here to accuse, I am here to get solution.
I use firefox since years, because of trust. But what I noticed after recent update is evident.
I have checked this several times. I mean everyday, before I run Firefox on my android tablet, I check which apps are running in the background. I kill them if they are there. Then I run firefox and check the running apps immediately. There you see Facebook+messenger, sitting in the background like thieves.
Did you try what I am saying? You will notice its not the "odd behavior of the device". but its the "obvious behavior of Mozilla Firefox".
You will see the same with Spider Solitare. Facebook is Targeting popular apps, or rather possibly Commissioning them.
What more should I test to check or prove that, or prevent that? is there any log or something that I should show here?
Thank you for reply, see you soon.
A lot of apps does that...
Even system apps..
Ex. In Samsung device's when you receive sms, Viber will also run..
When you use Camera, Gallery will run..
I think Firefox is using Facebook services, so if you use Firefox to log in facebook it will also sync.. not sure.
Separate note
Though im wondering that why its banned in XDA
radz_ said:
A lot of apps does that...
Even system apps..
Ex. In Samsung device's when you receive sms, Viber will also run..
When you use Camera, Gallery will run..
I think Firefox is using Facebook services, so if you use Firefox to log in facebook it will also sync.. not sure.
Separate note
Though im wondering that why its banned in XDA
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As being banned means that it doesn't get mentioned. As for why. Because it's used to rip off devs, making it warez which xda is against.
As for the OP. Run a log cat and see what it is calling. This user maybe right. With everything so connected these days it is not odd for one app to start a service of another app.
zelendel said:
As being banned means that it doesn't get mentioned. As for why. Because it's used to rip off devs, making it warez which xda is against.
As for the OP. Run a log cat and see what it is calling. This user maybe right. With everything so connected these days it is not odd for one app to start a service of another app.
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It is being mentioned all over the place...
I mentioned it because it is Suspicious, I'm not suggesting it.
OP, if it sounds suspicious for you, send an email to Firefox... its a big company not just a regular devs out there..
They have a email in Playstore..
radz_ said:
It is being mentioned all over the place...
I mentioned it because it is Suspicious, I'm not suggesting it.
OP, if it sounds suspicious for you, send an email to Firefox... its a big company not just a regular devs out there..
They have a email in Playstore..
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If you see it then by all means report it.
Agreed. I figured the OP would have already asked lol.
zelendel said:
If you see it then by all means report it.
Agreed. I figured the OP would have already asked lol.
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Nah.. I'm not reporting this kind of issue..
I never tried using Firefox on the phone.
I like UC Browser..lol
I'm not convinced at all.. [emoji6]
Ketansa said:
this time Firefox is involved(sold out).
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This is the accusation. The Mozilla Foundation is registered as a tax-exempt organization under US law and as a charitable trust under California law. Selling out to Facebook jeopardizes that standing.
Wakamatsu said:
This is the accusation. The Mozilla Foundation is registered as a tax-exempt organization under US law and as a charitable trust under California law. Selling out to Facebook jeopardizes that standing.
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Yes, whatever it sounds like, if you are going to say the same thing without even checking what I am saying ... or you already know it.
Ok sorry if it sounds like accusation, but Firefox is still doing that.... Whats next?
Thank you for replying.
radz_ said:
A lot of apps does that...
Even system apps..
Ex. In Samsung device's when you receive sms, Viber will also run..
When you use Camera, Gallery will run..
I think Firefox is using Facebook services, so if you use Firefox to log in facebook it will also sync.. not sure.
Separate note
Though im wondering that why its banned in XDA
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zelendel said:
As being banned means that it doesn't get mentioned. As for why. Because it's used to rip off devs, making it warez which xda is against.
As for the OP. Run a log cat and see what it is calling. This user maybe right. With everything so connected these days it is not odd for one app to start a service of another app.
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Thank you for writing zelendel and radz
Ohh... what is banned/or not being mentioned, on XDA ? The firefox?
What does OP means?
I already sent them email. I also used the option they give "take a moment to tell us ........" thing.
I came here because its obvious activity that I am seeing everyday, and if they are involved, they wont give any solution. You people only can.
And, login using Firefox is totally different than the Facebook apps login. Not related. I am sure this activity is no where near to helping us.
Do you know any Xposed framework module, or something that will prevent this from the root?
See you. thanks again.
Ketansa said:
Yes, whatever it sounds like, if you are going to say the same thing without even checking what I am saying ... or you already know it.
Ok sorry if it sounds like accusation, but Firefox is still doing that.... Whats next?
Thank you for replying.
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I use neither Facebook nor Firefox on my phone ( i do on my pc) but loaded them up. I followed your instructions. Results: Facebook had to boot from the splash screen each time. I'm deleting the apps not and moving on.
Wakamatsu said:
I use neither Facebook nor Firefox on my phone ( i do on my pc) but loaded them up. I followed your instructions. Results: Facebook had to boot from the splash screen each time. I'm deleting the apps not and moving on.
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Ok, thank you for trying it for me. :good:
good wishes for you.
Anyone else, please let me know.
SERIOUS now!!
Woww,
this is getting serious. Every popular app Spider solitare, Etsy, ESfile explorer are sold out! Their latest updates are starting services for Facebook. Woww!!
The Greenify and xprivacy mods given by users, isnt working.
Seriously needs a solution for this. Anyone?
I thought it's because Facebook is just set up to run all the time? You kill it and it'll restart on its own, regardless of whether you start up other apps or not.
es0tericcha0s said:
I thought it's because Facebook is just set up to run all the time? You kill it and it'll restart on its own, regardless of whether you start up other apps or not.
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It is. To be honest there is not much that can be done. Mainly with android M new feature of allowing all apps to check for root and disable features or the app if root is detected.
es0tericcha0s said:
I thought it's because Facebook is just set up to run all the time? You kill it and it'll restart on its own, regardless of whether you start up other apps or not.
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Hello, hey no. (I guess you are a non-root user). Actually I removed Facebook from the root with the help of Titanium backup and installed it as a user app again. I have also removed its startup. It never starts by itself. Until i updated these popular apps. Now they are rigging even more apps. I know, I keep checking the running apps through ForceStop it or app settings. And I have tried several times, when I run these few mentioned apps I immediately go check the running apps again. There the facebook rise again.
zelendel said:
It is. To be honest there is not much that can be done. Mainly with android M new feature of allowing all apps to check for root and disable features or the app if root is detected.
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You mean, they are making it even harder for root users? How shameful of this giant advertising slutoogle.
But our patriot developers will definatelt come with a hit fix.