Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
bird11 said:
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Well deleing them doesn't mean they aren't still there. I'd rather they not be there to begin with. But from your first point then yes that's all I really want it to do.
bird11 said:
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
bird11 said:
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
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I am pretty sure there's a way to just not get it to install the google apps. gdrocks mentioned it in this thread. Something to do with getting rid of the zip file which contains them.
Making calls, sending messages and using the internet is all I need.
PsiPhiDan said:
CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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gdrocks has said you can get rid of the google stuff by removing the google apps zip. I have also read this in other places.
I don't consider google products an advantage. As somebody who doesn't use google products, not even their search. It's not something I really want. Unfortunatly the market doesn't really offer much else. Apple or android. Android should be a better option considering I should be able to use something that doesn't compromise my privacy from the start.
Thank you for the recommendations.
Android is based with google just like ios with apple.....well use custom roms and delete useless system apps !!!
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
Should've Gotten a Windows/Blackberry phone if you wanted a smartphone that doesn't the Google stuff. D:
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No, Cyanogenmod removes everything EXCEPT for the google stuff.
And we have CM10. Flash it if thats what you want
Get the blackberry or webos rom
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
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Simply put I'd like a device that has many of the same hardware features of the evo 4g lte while not having to worry about my privacy. I see android as an open source OS which if there was any ridiculous measure being taken by google or other companies it would be found quickly. Though you can't say the same for other apps which aren't open source. These may be from anybody, not specifically google.
I don't use google's products so their apps and integration don't appeal to me.
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
Android is pretty much Google.. if you want to remove everything Google.. buy a phone without Android..
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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Rxpert said:
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
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It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
Sorry, I misunderstood your point. I see what you meant now.
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bird11 said:
It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
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Actually being open source makes it easier for devs on xda to discover privacy issues not being fully disclosed. Look what treve discovered about HTC. That was huge and it was just some amateur dev who shook up every company who used keystroke data logging.
And google isn't bloat. That's just a bizarre statement. Your phone runs google software. Period. You really should get a different phone.
Non google roms? I don't mean to be a douche but you really should change the title of this thread if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing wrong with having privacy concerns but that statement makes you look completely clueless
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when i flashed cyanogen mod 7 last night the android market and other google related apps were not in my app drawer. If i download Latest gapps on the ROMs listing page will it fix this issue? its really annoying me i don't understand what the point of that is... anyways, if that will fix the problem, do i flash that entire zip as it were a rom, or do i explore it on my PC and copy over the apks to my SD card. please help
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when i flashed cyanogen mod 7 last night the android market and other google related apps were not in my app drawer. If i download Latest gapps on the ROMs listing page will it fix this issue? its really annoying me i don't understand what the point of that is... anyways, if that will fix the problem, do i flash that entire zip as it were a rom, or do i explore it on my PC and copy over the apks to my SD card. please help
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CM7 is straight Android with some reasonable improvements and modifications. No apps come with it but the bare essentials. Some people very much prefer it sans gapps, as the Google apps pack is know, because once it's in there it's like an octopus. To answer your question, yes, just download the gapps.zip and flash it as you would a ROM.
i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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The cm roms are not allowed to include gapps. Early on the original dev received a c&d order to stop putting them in, so now you flash them separate. It's not that hard, nor does it take long. Download rom, download gapps, download kernel if you want, flash all in recovery. Done.
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i was pretty sure that the android market would be considered a bare necessity for your phone.... i guess that would just be stupid to include something that's really important and makes sense.. i dont understand why all roms don't come with the same apps, if you can flash a rom im pretty sure you can figure out how to go into file manager and delete some apps, it doesn't come with titanium backup either which annoyed me..
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No, it's not in any conceivable way a necessity for Android. There's many ways to install apps and different markets to use as well. MOST devs don't make habit of making as many personal choices for the user as humanly possible. Some people don't use Ti backup. A HUGE part of a custom ROM is not having to deal with the bloatware. Some consider all that crap you're talking about useless bloatware and CM7 is aimed squarely at the folks who'd consider Google apps unwanted bloatware. Why are you even trying it if you don't like it???
not wanting an app market to me is just plain stupid... whats the point of going that out of the way to put apps on your phone when you can download them in seconds with the market - the right way.. i tried it because i wanted to check it out but i just dont think it's for me and i'll probably just use a th3ory rom
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not wanting an app market to me is just plain stupid... whats the point of going that out of the way to put apps on your phone when you can download them in seconds with the market - the right way.. i tried it because i wanted to check it out but i just dont think it's for me and i'll probably just use a th3ory rom
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Yes. Please do. You're DEFINITELY NOT a CM7 kinda guy. And can ya do me a favor? Stop calling things you don't agree with stupid and presumptuously proclaiming what the "right way" is for something to be done? I can fully understand why someone might not want Market on their device. I've got plenty of apps I install from other sources. It's not like it's a big deal. You just install them, and it's faster than Market most of the time.
you mad bro?
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you mad bro?
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He's not mad, he's right. lol, you look like a real lazy guy. If you love market so much and don't want to flash gapps after cm7, you definitely don't belong to custom roms section as such. I'd recommend that you stop Modding your android and use stock rom that came with your phone.
Again, law prohibits use of weed and inclusion of gapps in cm7 by default. You got to learn to deal with things even if you don't like them.
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I don't use the market much anymore, everything I use I have backed up in Titanium Backup. One really nice thing about not having the market installed is I can use my apps without requiring a update first, this really annoys me especially when the update sucks and I want to re-install the previous version through Titanium Backup but can't use the previous version because there's an update. I add the apk's I want into the zip before I flash it, that take 2 seconds and its tailored to my liking, not the Dev/other users.
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you mad bro?
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Just not keen on the attitude. I'm not a huge fan of AOSP myself. It's just too spartan for me and I've never felt like building up a ROM to do what I've come to enjoy from Sense. My girlfriend thinks it's the best thing ever. I appreciate what it is, why she and others likes it, and why they develop it the way they do. I'm VERY glad it's out there because, as a project, Cyanogen contributes immensely to the Android community. Just doesn't seem like you respect CM for what it is.
Just flash the google apps zip in recovery and you'll get the market back she whatever else you want that google makes.
umm...wow @ this whole thread
Market still missing after flashed gapps
My market still missing even after I flashed gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip..how to solve this guys?
It's because of the lawyers
See here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps
Technically no ROM can ship with Google's app bundle out of the box; you have to flash separately. CyanogenMod, being a much bigger organization than most ROM producers, have to be more by-the-book.
Well, the Gallery3D is not entirely to my liking, so I include QuickPic in my ROM, but when trying to enter it gives me an error, saying "You should install the application from the market".
My question is, there is NO way to write QuickPic in ROM and install from the start as application, customers of the system?
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Well, the Gallery3D is not entirely to my liking, so I include QuickPic in my ROM, but when trying to enter it gives me an error, saying "You should install the application from the market".
My question is, there is NO way to write QuickPic in ROM and install from the start as application, customers of the system?
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As developers become better at development they will choose to have their application downloaded from the market. You could install it to /data/app possibly. I am guessing that written into the app is something that prevents you from doing what you are doing. Honestly market apps should stay in the market place. Its easy enough to download your own gallery and remove the current one. Or don't include the market app and write another application of suggested apps from the market for your rom. This way the app developers get their downloads and your users get their applications.
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As developers become better at development they will choose to have their application downloaded from the market. You could install it to /data/app possibly. I am guessing that written into the app is something that prevents you from doing what you are doing. Honestly market apps should stay in the market place. Its easy enough to download your own gallery and remove the current one. Or don't include the market app and write another application of suggested apps from the market for your rom. This way the app developers get their downloads and your users get their applications.
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Fixed: It's just a matter of putting the library needed to works in the gallery path /system/lib and voila, it works perfect.
juanitomigraña said:
Fixed: It's just a matter of putting the library needed to works in the gallery path /system/lib and voila, it works perfect.
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Sure, but now that Dev has one less download. These starts are important to android. When talking about wanting bigger and better applications they go by downloads sir. The more people downloading apps, the more developers see that there is a market for android. If not, they will continue to push to apple/ios first. I will always suggest to not doing this.
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Sure, but now that Dev has one less download. These starts are important to android. When talking about wanting bigger and better applications they go by downloads sir. The more people downloading apps, the more developers see that there is a market for android. If not, they will continue to push to apple/ios first. I will always suggest to not doing this.
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Hey man, relax. I am an apprentice chef, eager to learn, my ROM probably will not have a major departure, in fact I will post only on my personal website where apparently the only user with HTC Desire me, so I do not think it gets a lot discharges that might disturb the statistics of a developer.
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Hey man, relax. I am an apprentice chef, eager to learn, my ROM probably will not have a major departure, in fact I will post only on my personal website where apparently the only user with HTC Desire me, so I do not think it gets a lot discharges that might disturb the statistics of a developer.
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Not the point. Ethics.
As long as you put the app in /data/app you can get updates from the market. However usually if it's just in /system/app you wont be able to update it.
Ohh, great. I unknow this. Thanks.
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As long as you put the app in /data/app you can get updates from the market. However usually if it's just in /system/app you wont be able to update it.
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Yes, you can get updates. But that doesn't count toward the total download count.
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I have the apk for the 3.4.4 market. I froze the market updater but when I install the Market apk within 5 minutes it updates to play. Is there a way to prevent the upgrade?
What's the big deal with preventing the update? Looks like exactly the same market with a name change to me. Just wondering what I'm missing and in no way trying to be a jerk.
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You dont want to stop the update because if you do, you will not be able to get apps or update current apps with the old market.
Anything else that relies on the newer market will fail as well. I doubt you could stop it anyway..
Install an older version of the Market and use Titanium Backup to freeze the Market Updater...but there's no good reason to not update.
The new market is great! LOL, it is pretty much the same. The only difference if you have a tablet and that allowed you to purches music through the app. Again looks pretty much the same. New name
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The new market is great! LOL, it is pretty much the same. The only difference if you have a tablet and that allowed you to purches music through the app. Again looks pretty much the same. New name
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personally the name change is annoying as all hell, google quit trying to program your brand name in my brain, when i want to buy and app or something i want to go to the market or to the store, not go to the google and pick up a new app.
every-time i'm in a rush trying to pull something from the app market i can't find the bloody icon because i'm looking for the market or in the old location on my app drawer, minor change i know but i have caught myself cussing at google when i needed to re-d/l my gps app after it crashed during a trip i as on a few days ago.
any chance of renaming the new app back to market without root?
Just use a launcher and if already do, just change the name duh..lol that's what I did ....
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I also would like to learn how to get around using Play. The new terms seem to allow Google to read my sms messages and record the message routing. I don't think my correspondents would appreciate having their thoughts being part of Google's repertoire.
bemyax said:
I also would like to learn how to get around using Play. The new terms seem to allow Google to read my sms messages and record the message routing.
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What conspiracy theorist cooked that up?
The only way to get around using Google Play is to not use android. What you're asking is the equivalent of saying you want to use an iDevice without the app store.
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What conspiracy theorist cooked that up?
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Here you go. Straight from the Dept. of Justice
www [dot] eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/easier-gov-access-cell-phone-records-cripples-privacy
Looks like Ill be going back to a simple phone as I agree with the previous poster... Google is requiring a full disclosure of everything you do. Not just GPS tracking...
Call me what you will...
You can download apps from other sites like blackmart
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Memory needs > any update
I have a very good reason for not wanting auto-upgrades. Radio Shack misled me about the HTC Wildfire S and now I've got jack for memory. I have four apps installed, use only the native message app, and I'm lucky to have 25mb free. Anything less than that and the phone works as well as the Pony Express does today.
FWIW, Tandybot told me I could always install apps on the SD card. In theory, yes, but so few app devs code apps to work in that manner. Lesson learned.
kite edit: SNIP! No need for that kind of attitude around here, I'm afraid.
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good reason
freedom don't work on updated market
Hi.
My girlfriend has a Samsung Galaxy S II that has been acting a bit weird recently. Battery life has become extremely short, and she discovered hundreds of files all with names beginning with "tracker-c6446d57267343". Most mysterious of all is that something is somehow using the GPS even though it has been deactivated in the settings.
I'm suspecting her phone is infected with malware, and I'm planning to do a full wipe next time we meet. She's downloading AVG from Google Play right now to run a scan, but I'm going to do a full wipe anyway just to be sure and because she wants to have a clean start anyway.
I'm mostly curious if anyone has encountered this before. Is it malware? If so, how harmful is it? Keylogger, possibly?
Thanks.
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Hi.
My girlfriend has a Samsung Galaxy S II that has been acting a bit weird recently. Battery life has become extremely short, and she discovered hundreds of files all with names beginning with "tracker-c6446d57267343". Most mysterious of all is that something is somehow using the GPS even though it has been deactivated in the settings.
I'm suspecting her phone is infected with malware, and I'm planning to do a full wipe next time we meet. She's downloading AVG from Google Play right now to run a scan, but I'm going to do a full wipe anyway just to be sure and because she wants to have a clean start anyway.
I'm mostly curious if anyone has encountered this before. Is it malware? If so, how harmful is it? Keylogger, possibly?
Thanks.
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wow, first post for ya huh? good for you.
dont waste your time with AVG. just wipe the phone. and tell her not to install a bunch of stupid apps.
BluePoint Antivirus is my personal fave
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topiratiko said:
BluePoint Antivirus is my personal fave
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Lmao. anti virus on android. you guys are funny!
U know its pointless right?
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Lmao. anti virus on android. you guys are funny!
U know its pointless right?
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Exactly. It is. Odds are someone installed an app on yer girlfriends phone to be able to track her, tape pictures with the camera remotely, steal her credit card info, use the mic to record what's going on , etc. All of this can be achieved with ONE app and allows the person who installed it to remotely access the device. Also the app hides itself from detection in the app drawer and in the app manager . The legal reasons to install it are for if u lose your phone. But if someone got a hold of her phone they could easily have put this on and set it up within minutes. In other words. Someone can hear and see everything she's been doing.
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Exactly. It is. Odds are someone installed an app on yer girlfriends phone to be able to track her, tape pictures with the camera remotely, steal her credit card info, use the mic to record what's going on , etc. All of this can be achieved with ONE app and allows the person who installed it to remotely access the device. Also the app hides itself from detection in the app drawer and in the app manager . The legal reasons to install it are for if u lose your phone. But if someone got a hold of her phone they could easily have put this on and set it up within minutes. In other words. Someone can hear and see everything she's been doing.
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I'm finding it highly unlikely that any of her friends would do something like that, not to mention that none of them have the technical know-how (yes, I know it's not hard, but none of her friends are even technologically adept to pull something like this off) to do it. If such malware has been installed on her phone, it most likely came bundled with some app she downloaded. She doesn't get all her app downloads from Google Play.
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Lmao. anti virus on android. you guys are funny!
U know its pointless right?
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I like the way it looks on my status bar.
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I'm finding it highly unlikely that any of her friends would do something like that, not to mention that none of them have the technical know-how (yes, I know it's not hard, but none of her friends are even technologically adept to pull something like this off) to do it. If such malware has been installed on her phone, it most likely came bundled with some app she downloaded. She doesn't get all her app downloads from Google Play.
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There is no such thing as malware on android. everything you install tells you what it has access to.
The only thing like malware, would be an application that records stuff and sends it out, which would be listed when she installed the app, Tho im sure most rarely pay attention to that screen other than hitting install.
There are no viruses, no malware, or anything "hidden" that can attack stuff without your permission.
Wipe the phone. Dont install pirated apps or stupid pointless apps.
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There is no such thing as malware on android. everything you install tells you what it has access to.
The only thing like malware, would be an application that records stuff and sends it out, which would be listed when she installed the app, Tho im sure most rarely pay attention to that screen other than hitting install.
There are no viruses, no malware, or anything "hidden" that can attack stuff without your permission.
Wipe the phone. Dont install pirated apps or stupid pointless apps.
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Malware can definitely affect android. Sure there are safeguards built in to reduce the chances of it happening, but they rely on the user to enforce them. I can almost guarantee that a majority of android users don't look at what permissions an app is asking for prior to installation. I know for a fact that out of the 5 android users in my house I am the only one that checks permissions before I install anything. In addition, even if one is checking the permissions, a malicious app can easily disguise itself as an everyday app that requires the permissions the Malware needs but would be overlooked because the host app has a valid reason for needing those permissions.
A dialer, email, sms, social networking app will all ask for access to your contacts. And it's necessary for that app to do its job. Well if that same app has unlimited access to your network then it can now take your contacts and upload them.
Now a virus is another thing all together. While it's possible on a rooted phone with rw permissions in the system directory, it's unlikely since most apps exist in a "sandbox" so to speak. It wouldn't be that difficult for a root explorer app to gain access to your /system directory and wreak havoc and then target your sdcard and wipe out your data. But not before uploading whatever it wants (a lot of explorers require network permissions for cloud service, etc). But then I guess that would be classified as malware and not a virus
And lets not leave out all the apps that use social networks to login..
But the last two Lines of your post say it all. Stay away from pirated apps and watch what 3rd party apps you're trusting these permissions with.
I read that CM10 does not have the feature that made CM7 really stand above all other roms. App permissions management. If this is true, I'd like to know why such a terrific feature was not brought over to the newer versions. I really liked that I could take away the ability for apps to "automatically start at boot."
Is there something built in to ICS / JB that negates the need for this feature to be in CyanogenMod?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed light on this.
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It was never really stable in the first place, and caused FCs.
However, there are root apps that allow permissions management anyways, so if youu really want that feature just download one of those suckers
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gagdude said:
It was never really stable in the first place, and caused FCs.
However, there are root apps that allow permissions management anyways, so if youu really want that feature just download one of those suckers
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Thanks for the reply. It's a shame they took it out, even if it made some apps unstable. I'll look in the play store for something similar.
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It was never really stable in the first place, and caused FCs.
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It was perfectly stable. The apps that FCed were just horribly programmed. Actually, what are Exceptions for ?
If this is true, I'd like to know why such a terrific feature was not brought over to the newer versions.
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Somebody on the CM-Forum claimed to know that Google forced CM to drop permission management, otherwise they would have closed GooglePlay for CM devices.
There are 2 apps you could try ( look em up in the forum):
-LBE privacy guard
-Pdroid
I used Pdroid for quite some time and I quite liked it, because it spoofes app permissions. so no more FCs.
However, Pdroid corrupted my contacts and calendar while syncing with SyncMate. So I don't use it anymore.
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Somebody on the CM-Forum claimed to know that Google forced CM to drop permission management, otherwise they would have closed GooglePlay for CM devices.
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If that is true, it's a real shame. I didn't know google used strong-arm tactics like that.
Finally!!
It's been over a year since I posted this question and it looks like I'm getting my wish.
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-updating-privacy-guard-20-new-features-coming-cm102