Related
Well, the Gallery3D is not entirely to my liking, so I include QuickPic in my ROM, but when trying to enter it gives me an error, saying "You should install the application from the market".
My question is, there is NO way to write QuickPic in ROM and install from the start as application, customers of the system?
juanitomigraña said:
Well, the Gallery3D is not entirely to my liking, so I include QuickPic in my ROM, but when trying to enter it gives me an error, saying "You should install the application from the market".
My question is, there is NO way to write QuickPic in ROM and install from the start as application, customers of the system?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As developers become better at development they will choose to have their application downloaded from the market. You could install it to /data/app possibly. I am guessing that written into the app is something that prevents you from doing what you are doing. Honestly market apps should stay in the market place. Its easy enough to download your own gallery and remove the current one. Or don't include the market app and write another application of suggested apps from the market for your rom. This way the app developers get their downloads and your users get their applications.
lithid-cm said:
As developers become better at development they will choose to have their application downloaded from the market. You could install it to /data/app possibly. I am guessing that written into the app is something that prevents you from doing what you are doing. Honestly market apps should stay in the market place. Its easy enough to download your own gallery and remove the current one. Or don't include the market app and write another application of suggested apps from the market for your rom. This way the app developers get their downloads and your users get their applications.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fixed: It's just a matter of putting the library needed to works in the gallery path /system/lib and voila, it works perfect.
juanitomigraña said:
Fixed: It's just a matter of putting the library needed to works in the gallery path /system/lib and voila, it works perfect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sure, but now that Dev has one less download. These starts are important to android. When talking about wanting bigger and better applications they go by downloads sir. The more people downloading apps, the more developers see that there is a market for android. If not, they will continue to push to apple/ios first. I will always suggest to not doing this.
lithid-cm said:
Sure, but now that Dev has one less download. These starts are important to android. When talking about wanting bigger and better applications they go by downloads sir. The more people downloading apps, the more developers see that there is a market for android. If not, they will continue to push to apple/ios first. I will always suggest to not doing this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey man, relax. I am an apprentice chef, eager to learn, my ROM probably will not have a major departure, in fact I will post only on my personal website where apparently the only user with HTC Desire me, so I do not think it gets a lot discharges that might disturb the statistics of a developer.
juanitomigraña said:
Hey man, relax. I am an apprentice chef, eager to learn, my ROM probably will not have a major departure, in fact I will post only on my personal website where apparently the only user with HTC Desire me, so I do not think it gets a lot discharges that might disturb the statistics of a developer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not the point. Ethics.
As long as you put the app in /data/app you can get updates from the market. However usually if it's just in /system/app you wont be able to update it.
Ohh, great. I unknow this. Thanks.
dsixda said:
As long as you put the app in /data/app you can get updates from the market. However usually if it's just in /system/app you wont be able to update it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you can get updates. But that doesn't count toward the total download count.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda premium
Saw this app called pdroid, allows you to set the permissions apps have(better than other apps like droidwall), probably gonna patch it onto my nook color, but would make even more sense on my phone.. only problem is that for HTC devices it says it requires s-off.(updated: apparently this isn't an issue)
I guess my question would be if anyone would know a way to workaround? It doesn't require root.. I am wondering if there is a way I can patch the rom before I flash it perhaps?
Also, I didn't know that apparently there is a feature that cuts off all network connectivity for selected apps built into cm7.. I'm starting to think I didn't know about 99% of the features cm7 allowed. That is probably why I always went with MIUI.
Anyways, figured I would ask here, or perhaps someone else would think this was interesting, or maybe something like this could be included in future roms. It evidently has a tiny memory footprint, uses little processor, etc.. so don't see what the harm could be. I'll have time to play with it this weekend I am thinking..
Silentbtdeadly said:
Saw this app called pdroid, allows you to set the permissions apps have(better than other apps like droidwall), probably gonna patch it onto my nook color, but would make even more sense on my phone.. only problem is that for HTC devices it says it requires s-off.
I guess my question would be if anyone would know a way to workaround? It doesn't require root.. I am wondering if there is a way I can patch the rom before I flash it perhaps?
Also, I didn't know that apparently there is a feature that cuts off all network connectivity for selected apps built into cm7.. I'm starting to think I didn't know about 99% of the features cm7 allowed. That is probably why I always went with MIUI.
Anyways, figured I would ask here, or perhaps someone else would think this was interesting, or maybe something like this could be included in future roms. It evidently has a tiny memory footprint, uses little processor, etc.. so don't see what the harm could be. I'll have time to play with it this weekend I am thinking..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stericson has an app that has the same features call "Permissions". It doesn't require S-off
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using xda premium
This is a solid app. I have it installed
heyodee said:
This is a solid app. I have it installed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which one, pdroid, or permissions?
Chance Ill said:
Stericson has an app that has the same features call "Permissions". It doesn't require S-off
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw the permissions app when I was looking into it, apparently the way pdroid functions you are less likely to get a force close from apps that you cut permissions off.
I'm not the paranoid type, there are some apps that aren't designed very efficiently that I would cut off features from like wakelock, boot_receive, gps, etc.. and sadly those apps don't show up on the list in the free version(like facebook, I don't want it doing ANYTHING unless I am using it). The pro version might do it, but I'd rather donate to a dev of an app like pdroid that gives you the full features than buy an app hoping the paid version does what the free version doesn't.. 15 minutes just isn't enough time to explore some paid apps.
I'm sure the developer stated it needed s-off in good faith, only recently was it possible to have a boot loader with s-on (unlocked) and be able to have r/w access to /system. Previously s-off would be required for this. I'm sure pdroid will work with a s-on unlocked boot loader, with a rooted system. The only difference between s-on unlocked and s-off is that the radio and boot loader can't be overwritten when not signed from HTC. As far as custom roms and root capabilities are functionally the same.
Silentbtdeadly said:
Which one, pdroid, or permissions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pdroid. and s-off is not a core requirement. If you can flash from recovery, then it's all good.
the only thing I have to decide between now is LBE Privacy Guard or Pdroid
jmhalder said:
I'm sure the developer stated it needed s-off in good faith, only recently was it possible to have a boot loader with s-on (unlocked) and be able to have r/w access to /system. Previously s-off would be required for this. I'm sure pdroid will work with a s-on unlocked boot loader, with a rooted system. The only difference between s-on unlocked and s-off is that the radio and boot loader can't be overwritten when not signed from HTC. As far as custom roms and root capabilities are functionally the same.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know, I wasn't sure why it would need s-off, but what you said makes total sense..
heyodee said:
pdroid. and s-off is not a core requirement. If you can flash from recovery, then it's all good.
the only thing I have to decide between now is LBE Privacy Guard or Pdroid
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well maybe you can share what you know about LBE privacy guard compared to pdroid? I've already spent too much time being distracted from school work the last few days or I would look into it myself.. but in a few days I will have time to mess around with all of this guilt-free.
What rom are you using? I keep seeing people post the flashable zip file patch output in different forums, maybe we could do that here for others who may be using the same rom?
Well maybe you can share what you know about LBE privacy guard compared to pdroid? I've already spent too much time being distracted from school work the last few days or I would look into it myself.. but in a few days I will have time to mess around with all of this guilt-free.
What rom are you using? I keep seeing people post the flashable zip file patch output in different forums, maybe we could do that here for others who may be using the same rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Both apps are rock solid.
LBE Privacy Guard does the job nicely, coupled with an intuitive UI, firewall, data monitor...
PDroid, love it. Although compatibility is issue. Requires patch. It however gives extra option in privacy department
Whichever you decide to choose, its a good pick
Currently using Deodex tmobile 1.43.531.3 from this thread
heyodee said:
Both apps are rock solid.
LBE Privacy Guard does the job nicely, coupled with an intuitive UI, firewall, data monitor...
PDroid, love it. Although compatibility is issue. Requires patch. It however gives extra option in privacy department
Whichever you decide to choose, its a good pick
Currently using Deodex tmobile 1.43.531.3 from this thread
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LBE seems pretty good so far, I like that it allows you to change the permissions of system apps.. and to choose "prompt" when some apps try to access permissions. The only thing I wonder is how the monitoring part will impact battery life, and the only thing I wish it did was allow was a change to the wake lock permission.
The main thing I am trying to accomplish is to cut off communication for certain apps altogether EXCEPT when I use them- facebook, google voice, g+, stuff like that. I also want to cut off the ability for certain apps to wakelock the phone at all, like gtalk(I don't use it at all) and a few others. The fact that some of these services don't allow you to change how they sync or they hold a wakelock I don't want.. I want to change that.
Would pdroid better accomplish what I am trying to do? Does it allow permissions changes of system apps?
Silentbtdeadly said:
LBE seems pretty good so far, I like that it allows you to change the permissions of system apps.. and to choose "prompt" when some apps try to access permissions. The only thing I wonder is how the monitoring part will impact battery life, and the only thing I wish it did was allow was a change to the wake lock permission.
The main thing I am trying to accomplish is to cut off communication for certain apps altogether EXCEPT when I use them- facebook, google voice, g+, stuff like that. I also want to cut off the ability for certain apps to wakelock the phone at all, like gtalk(I don't use it at all) and a few others. The fact that some of these services don't allow you to change how they sync or they hold a wakelock I don't want.. I want to change that.
Would pdroid better accomplish what I am trying to do? Does it allow permissions changes of system apps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is pretty light on battery. pdroid is better with battery from the looks of it. Wake lock is not part of the supported permission for both apps. lbe privacy supports firewall. for gtalk, sign out when not using it. for g+, uncheck it from sync. for Google voice, ... dunno yet
pdroid allows you to set permission of system apps
heyodee said:
it is pretty light on battery. pdroid is better with battery from the looks of it. Wake lock is not part of the supported permission for both apps. lbe privacy supports firewall. for gtalk, sign out when not using it. for g+, uncheck it from sync. for Google voice, ... dunno yet
pdroid allows you to set permission of system apps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've turned off sync on g+ and voice, signed out of gtalk.. but I'm trying to eliminate any wakelocks on these apps I rarely or never use. The biggest wakelock every time is the alarm sys, if I do a "dumpsys alarm > alarm.txt" in terminal, many of these apps are still keeping the phone from sleeping right..
Ultimately, I am probably trying to beat a dead horse, I got things tweaked to the point I'll never really have to worry about killing my battery in a day, but it seems like one of the features of us android users(or maybe it is xda users).. we want TOTAL control over what our phones do and don't do, lol.
LBE was heavy on my battery and Permissions Denied's interface is not intuitive enough.
I'd like to give PDroid a try but which patch to use for HTC Amaze? (beastmod 2.2.0)
jjane45 said:
LBE was heavy on my battery and Permissions Denied's interface is not intuitive enough.
I'd like to give PDroid a try but which patch to use for HTC Amaze? (beastmod 2.2.0)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been using LBE since it was recommended to me.. and even though I don't see any wakelocks caused by it, and IT reduced the wakelocks other apps on the phone would cause, by battery life has degraded majorly. It is a cool app, but rather than get 24+ hours on a light use day, I have been getting at most 14 with barely any use. It may be because I have it monitoring my data use, so I may continue using it after I turn off monitoring to see if that is the draining part.
To answer your question, based on how I read the thread.. one of the downloads in the thread is used to CREATE the patch(and remover) which you can then flash and/or share with others.
PDroid is the only one I haven't tried yet, so think I'm gonna remove LBE and give it a try. One of these apps will surely give me control over these other apps, without being a bigger pain than those other apps.
Did you give PDroid a try and have any success with the Amaze?
If so, it would be great to share the patch.
I've been using LBE, avoiding the re-flash to deodex / Zipalign, for now, and it seems like its pretty good / handles system apps pretty well but I'd think about running both in tandem to cover what each doesn't do. Hmm
I have the apk for the 3.4.4 market. I froze the market updater but when I install the Market apk within 5 minutes it updates to play. Is there a way to prevent the upgrade?
What's the big deal with preventing the update? Looks like exactly the same market with a name change to me. Just wondering what I'm missing and in no way trying to be a jerk.
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
You dont want to stop the update because if you do, you will not be able to get apps or update current apps with the old market.
Anything else that relies on the newer market will fail as well. I doubt you could stop it anyway..
Install an older version of the Market and use Titanium Backup to freeze the Market Updater...but there's no good reason to not update.
The new market is great! LOL, it is pretty much the same. The only difference if you have a tablet and that allowed you to purches music through the app. Again looks pretty much the same. New name
VoodooGTR said:
The new market is great! LOL, it is pretty much the same. The only difference if you have a tablet and that allowed you to purches music through the app. Again looks pretty much the same. New name
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
personally the name change is annoying as all hell, google quit trying to program your brand name in my brain, when i want to buy and app or something i want to go to the market or to the store, not go to the google and pick up a new app.
every-time i'm in a rush trying to pull something from the app market i can't find the bloody icon because i'm looking for the market or in the old location on my app drawer, minor change i know but i have caught myself cussing at google when i needed to re-d/l my gps app after it crashed during a trip i as on a few days ago.
any chance of renaming the new app back to market without root?
Just use a launcher and if already do, just change the name duh..lol that's what I did ....
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda premium
I also would like to learn how to get around using Play. The new terms seem to allow Google to read my sms messages and record the message routing. I don't think my correspondents would appreciate having their thoughts being part of Google's repertoire.
bemyax said:
I also would like to learn how to get around using Play. The new terms seem to allow Google to read my sms messages and record the message routing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What conspiracy theorist cooked that up?
The only way to get around using Google Play is to not use android. What you're asking is the equivalent of saying you want to use an iDevice without the app store.
l7777 said:
What conspiracy theorist cooked that up?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here you go. Straight from the Dept. of Justice
www [dot] eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/easier-gov-access-cell-phone-records-cripples-privacy
Looks like Ill be going back to a simple phone as I agree with the previous poster... Google is requiring a full disclosure of everything you do. Not just GPS tracking...
Call me what you will...
You can download apps from other sites like blackmart
Sent from my ADR6400L/electric factory using Tapatalk 2
Memory needs > any update
I have a very good reason for not wanting auto-upgrades. Radio Shack misled me about the HTC Wildfire S and now I've got jack for memory. I have four apps installed, use only the native message app, and I'm lucky to have 25mb free. Anything less than that and the phone works as well as the Pony Express does today.
FWIW, Tandybot told me I could always install apps on the SD card. In theory, yes, but so few app devs code apps to work in that manner. Lesson learned.
kite edit: SNIP! No need for that kind of attitude around here, I'm afraid.
Terms of Service said:
P.S. This site is unfriendly to the Nth. Registration took six or seven attempts. Captcha to write a post. I doubt I'll be back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will be missed.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2
good reason
freedom don't work on updated market
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
bird11 said:
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
-Cupper- said:
Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
gdrocks said:
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well deleing them doesn't mean they aren't still there. I'd rather they not be there to begin with. But from your first point then yes that's all I really want it to do.
bird11 said:
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
bird11 said:
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
-Cupper- said:
All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am pretty sure there's a way to just not get it to install the google apps. gdrocks mentioned it in this thread. Something to do with getting rid of the zip file which contains them.
Making calls, sending messages and using the internet is all I need.
PsiPhiDan said:
CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
gdrocks has said you can get rid of the google stuff by removing the google apps zip. I have also read this in other places.
I don't consider google products an advantage. As somebody who doesn't use google products, not even their search. It's not something I really want. Unfortunatly the market doesn't really offer much else. Apple or android. Android should be a better option considering I should be able to use something that doesn't compromise my privacy from the start.
Thank you for the recommendations.
Android is based with google just like ios with apple.....well use custom roms and delete useless system apps !!!
Sent from my HTC Explorer A310e using xda app-developers app
Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
Should've Gotten a Windows/Blackberry phone if you wanted a smartphone that doesn't the Google stuff. D:
bird11 said:
There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, Cyanogenmod removes everything EXCEPT for the google stuff.
And we have CM10. Flash it if thats what you want
Get the blackberry or webos rom
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
-Cupper- said:
Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Simply put I'd like a device that has many of the same hardware features of the evo 4g lte while not having to worry about my privacy. I see android as an open source OS which if there was any ridiculous measure being taken by google or other companies it would be found quickly. Though you can't say the same for other apps which aren't open source. These may be from anybody, not specifically google.
I don't use google's products so their apps and integration don't appeal to me.
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
Android is pretty much Google.. if you want to remove everything Google.. buy a phone without Android..
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Rxpert said:
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
PsiPhiDan said:
Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
Sorry, I misunderstood your point. I see what you meant now.
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
bird11 said:
It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually being open source makes it easier for devs on xda to discover privacy issues not being fully disclosed. Look what treve discovered about HTC. That was huge and it was just some amateur dev who shook up every company who used keystroke data logging.
And google isn't bloat. That's just a bizarre statement. Your phone runs google software. Period. You really should get a different phone.
Non google roms? I don't mean to be a douche but you really should change the title of this thread if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing wrong with having privacy concerns but that statement makes you look completely clueless
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
Hello friends,
I wanted to alert everyone regarding what I discovered.
After latest firefox update I found out that-
Whenever I run Firefox app, it also runs Facebook app and facebook messenger.
Here is how I tested-
1) Kill the Facebook & Messenger totally by using the Force Stop option. For better, also Force Stop the Firefox .
2) Run Firefox again, and then check both the Facebook apps. You will see both the Poop-bags run back from the grave.
How? Why? I guess Firefox is sold out to Facebook too.
Now they are tampering the core too.
Yes I tried these steps, 3 times while writing this topic, to make sure whether my suspicion is valid or not. Yes it does exactly what I said.
Any one knows, how to stop this? (I know the solution some of you might give- Uninstall the Facebook apps.) . But before doing that
lets alert everyone and find out the solution, because this time Firefox is involved(sold out).
Which app permission should I disable to prevent this? (I am using Xprivacy, permission pro, app settings).
android 4.4 , Samsung 10.1 .
Thank you.
Anyone, noticed this? and know any solution?
You're accusing the Mozilla Foundation of possible illegal behavior. You'll need more than the odd behavior of one device to convince me.
Wakamatsu said:
You're accusing the Mozilla Foundation of possible illegal behavior. You'll need more than the odd behavior of one device to convince me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello,
I am not here to accuse, I am here to get solution.
I use firefox since years, because of trust. But what I noticed after recent update is evident.
I have checked this several times. I mean everyday, before I run Firefox on my android tablet, I check which apps are running in the background. I kill them if they are there. Then I run firefox and check the running apps immediately. There you see Facebook+messenger, sitting in the background like thieves.
Did you try what I am saying? You will notice its not the "odd behavior of the device". but its the "obvious behavior of Mozilla Firefox".
You will see the same with Spider Solitare. Facebook is Targeting popular apps, or rather possibly Commissioning them.
What more should I test to check or prove that, or prevent that? is there any log or something that I should show here?
Thank you for reply, see you soon.
A lot of apps does that...
Even system apps..
Ex. In Samsung device's when you receive sms, Viber will also run..
When you use Camera, Gallery will run..
I think Firefox is using Facebook services, so if you use Firefox to log in facebook it will also sync.. not sure.
Separate note
Though im wondering that why its banned in XDA
radz_ said:
A lot of apps does that...
Even system apps..
Ex. In Samsung device's when you receive sms, Viber will also run..
When you use Camera, Gallery will run..
I think Firefox is using Facebook services, so if you use Firefox to log in facebook it will also sync.. not sure.
Separate note
Though im wondering that why its banned in XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As being banned means that it doesn't get mentioned. As for why. Because it's used to rip off devs, making it warez which xda is against.
As for the OP. Run a log cat and see what it is calling. This user maybe right. With everything so connected these days it is not odd for one app to start a service of another app.
zelendel said:
As being banned means that it doesn't get mentioned. As for why. Because it's used to rip off devs, making it warez which xda is against.
As for the OP. Run a log cat and see what it is calling. This user maybe right. With everything so connected these days it is not odd for one app to start a service of another app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is being mentioned all over the place...
I mentioned it because it is Suspicious, I'm not suggesting it.
OP, if it sounds suspicious for you, send an email to Firefox... its a big company not just a regular devs out there..
They have a email in Playstore..
radz_ said:
It is being mentioned all over the place...
I mentioned it because it is Suspicious, I'm not suggesting it.
OP, if it sounds suspicious for you, send an email to Firefox... its a big company not just a regular devs out there..
They have a email in Playstore..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you see it then by all means report it.
Agreed. I figured the OP would have already asked lol.
zelendel said:
If you see it then by all means report it.
Agreed. I figured the OP would have already asked lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nah.. I'm not reporting this kind of issue..
I never tried using Firefox on the phone.
I like UC Browser..lol
I'm not convinced at all.. [emoji6]
Ketansa said:
this time Firefox is involved(sold out).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the accusation. The Mozilla Foundation is registered as a tax-exempt organization under US law and as a charitable trust under California law. Selling out to Facebook jeopardizes that standing.
Wakamatsu said:
This is the accusation. The Mozilla Foundation is registered as a tax-exempt organization under US law and as a charitable trust under California law. Selling out to Facebook jeopardizes that standing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, whatever it sounds like, if you are going to say the same thing without even checking what I am saying ... or you already know it.
Ok sorry if it sounds like accusation, but Firefox is still doing that.... Whats next?
Thank you for replying.
radz_ said:
A lot of apps does that...
Even system apps..
Ex. In Samsung device's when you receive sms, Viber will also run..
When you use Camera, Gallery will run..
I think Firefox is using Facebook services, so if you use Firefox to log in facebook it will also sync.. not sure.
Separate note
Though im wondering that why its banned in XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
zelendel said:
As being banned means that it doesn't get mentioned. As for why. Because it's used to rip off devs, making it warez which xda is against.
As for the OP. Run a log cat and see what it is calling. This user maybe right. With everything so connected these days it is not odd for one app to start a service of another app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for writing zelendel and radz
Ohh... what is banned/or not being mentioned, on XDA ? The firefox?
What does OP means?
I already sent them email. I also used the option they give "take a moment to tell us ........" thing.
I came here because its obvious activity that I am seeing everyday, and if they are involved, they wont give any solution. You people only can.
And, login using Firefox is totally different than the Facebook apps login. Not related. I am sure this activity is no where near to helping us.
Do you know any Xposed framework module, or something that will prevent this from the root?
See you. thanks again.
Ketansa said:
Yes, whatever it sounds like, if you are going to say the same thing without even checking what I am saying ... or you already know it.
Ok sorry if it sounds like accusation, but Firefox is still doing that.... Whats next?
Thank you for replying.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use neither Facebook nor Firefox on my phone ( i do on my pc) but loaded them up. I followed your instructions. Results: Facebook had to boot from the splash screen each time. I'm deleting the apps not and moving on.
Wakamatsu said:
I use neither Facebook nor Firefox on my phone ( i do on my pc) but loaded them up. I followed your instructions. Results: Facebook had to boot from the splash screen each time. I'm deleting the apps not and moving on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, thank you for trying it for me. :good:
good wishes for you.
Anyone else, please let me know.
SERIOUS now!!
Woww,
this is getting serious. Every popular app Spider solitare, Etsy, ESfile explorer are sold out! Their latest updates are starting services for Facebook. Woww!!
The Greenify and xprivacy mods given by users, isnt working.
Seriously needs a solution for this. Anyone?
I thought it's because Facebook is just set up to run all the time? You kill it and it'll restart on its own, regardless of whether you start up other apps or not.
es0tericcha0s said:
I thought it's because Facebook is just set up to run all the time? You kill it and it'll restart on its own, regardless of whether you start up other apps or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is. To be honest there is not much that can be done. Mainly with android M new feature of allowing all apps to check for root and disable features or the app if root is detected.
es0tericcha0s said:
I thought it's because Facebook is just set up to run all the time? You kill it and it'll restart on its own, regardless of whether you start up other apps or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello, hey no. (I guess you are a non-root user). Actually I removed Facebook from the root with the help of Titanium backup and installed it as a user app again. I have also removed its startup. It never starts by itself. Until i updated these popular apps. Now they are rigging even more apps. I know, I keep checking the running apps through ForceStop it or app settings. And I have tried several times, when I run these few mentioned apps I immediately go check the running apps again. There the facebook rise again.
zelendel said:
It is. To be honest there is not much that can be done. Mainly with android M new feature of allowing all apps to check for root and disable features or the app if root is detected.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You mean, they are making it even harder for root users? How shameful of this giant advertising slutoogle.
But our patriot developers will definatelt come with a hit fix.