Saw this app called pdroid, allows you to set the permissions apps have(better than other apps like droidwall), probably gonna patch it onto my nook color, but would make even more sense on my phone.. only problem is that for HTC devices it says it requires s-off.(updated: apparently this isn't an issue)
I guess my question would be if anyone would know a way to workaround? It doesn't require root.. I am wondering if there is a way I can patch the rom before I flash it perhaps?
Also, I didn't know that apparently there is a feature that cuts off all network connectivity for selected apps built into cm7.. I'm starting to think I didn't know about 99% of the features cm7 allowed. That is probably why I always went with MIUI.
Anyways, figured I would ask here, or perhaps someone else would think this was interesting, or maybe something like this could be included in future roms. It evidently has a tiny memory footprint, uses little processor, etc.. so don't see what the harm could be. I'll have time to play with it this weekend I am thinking..
Silentbtdeadly said:
Saw this app called pdroid, allows you to set the permissions apps have(better than other apps like droidwall), probably gonna patch it onto my nook color, but would make even more sense on my phone.. only problem is that for HTC devices it says it requires s-off.
I guess my question would be if anyone would know a way to workaround? It doesn't require root.. I am wondering if there is a way I can patch the rom before I flash it perhaps?
Also, I didn't know that apparently there is a feature that cuts off all network connectivity for selected apps built into cm7.. I'm starting to think I didn't know about 99% of the features cm7 allowed. That is probably why I always went with MIUI.
Anyways, figured I would ask here, or perhaps someone else would think this was interesting, or maybe something like this could be included in future roms. It evidently has a tiny memory footprint, uses little processor, etc.. so don't see what the harm could be. I'll have time to play with it this weekend I am thinking..
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Stericson has an app that has the same features call "Permissions". It doesn't require S-off
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This is a solid app. I have it installed
heyodee said:
This is a solid app. I have it installed
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Which one, pdroid, or permissions?
Chance Ill said:
Stericson has an app that has the same features call "Permissions". It doesn't require S-off
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I saw the permissions app when I was looking into it, apparently the way pdroid functions you are less likely to get a force close from apps that you cut permissions off.
I'm not the paranoid type, there are some apps that aren't designed very efficiently that I would cut off features from like wakelock, boot_receive, gps, etc.. and sadly those apps don't show up on the list in the free version(like facebook, I don't want it doing ANYTHING unless I am using it). The pro version might do it, but I'd rather donate to a dev of an app like pdroid that gives you the full features than buy an app hoping the paid version does what the free version doesn't.. 15 minutes just isn't enough time to explore some paid apps.
I'm sure the developer stated it needed s-off in good faith, only recently was it possible to have a boot loader with s-on (unlocked) and be able to have r/w access to /system. Previously s-off would be required for this. I'm sure pdroid will work with a s-on unlocked boot loader, with a rooted system. The only difference between s-on unlocked and s-off is that the radio and boot loader can't be overwritten when not signed from HTC. As far as custom roms and root capabilities are functionally the same.
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pdroid. and s-off is not a core requirement. If you can flash from recovery, then it's all good.
the only thing I have to decide between now is LBE Privacy Guard or Pdroid
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I'm sure the developer stated it needed s-off in good faith, only recently was it possible to have a boot loader with s-on (unlocked) and be able to have r/w access to /system. Previously s-off would be required for this. I'm sure pdroid will work with a s-on unlocked boot loader, with a rooted system. The only difference between s-on unlocked and s-off is that the radio and boot loader can't be overwritten when not signed from HTC. As far as custom roms and root capabilities are functionally the same.
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Good to know, I wasn't sure why it would need s-off, but what you said makes total sense..
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pdroid. and s-off is not a core requirement. If you can flash from recovery, then it's all good.
the only thing I have to decide between now is LBE Privacy Guard or Pdroid
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Well maybe you can share what you know about LBE privacy guard compared to pdroid? I've already spent too much time being distracted from school work the last few days or I would look into it myself.. but in a few days I will have time to mess around with all of this guilt-free.
What rom are you using? I keep seeing people post the flashable zip file patch output in different forums, maybe we could do that here for others who may be using the same rom?
Well maybe you can share what you know about LBE privacy guard compared to pdroid? I've already spent too much time being distracted from school work the last few days or I would look into it myself.. but in a few days I will have time to mess around with all of this guilt-free.
What rom are you using? I keep seeing people post the flashable zip file patch output in different forums, maybe we could do that here for others who may be using the same rom?
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Both apps are rock solid.
LBE Privacy Guard does the job nicely, coupled with an intuitive UI, firewall, data monitor...
PDroid, love it. Although compatibility is issue. Requires patch. It however gives extra option in privacy department
Whichever you decide to choose, its a good pick
Currently using Deodex tmobile 1.43.531.3 from this thread
heyodee said:
Both apps are rock solid.
LBE Privacy Guard does the job nicely, coupled with an intuitive UI, firewall, data monitor...
PDroid, love it. Although compatibility is issue. Requires patch. It however gives extra option in privacy department
Whichever you decide to choose, its a good pick
Currently using Deodex tmobile 1.43.531.3 from this thread
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LBE seems pretty good so far, I like that it allows you to change the permissions of system apps.. and to choose "prompt" when some apps try to access permissions. The only thing I wonder is how the monitoring part will impact battery life, and the only thing I wish it did was allow was a change to the wake lock permission.
The main thing I am trying to accomplish is to cut off communication for certain apps altogether EXCEPT when I use them- facebook, google voice, g+, stuff like that. I also want to cut off the ability for certain apps to wakelock the phone at all, like gtalk(I don't use it at all) and a few others. The fact that some of these services don't allow you to change how they sync or they hold a wakelock I don't want.. I want to change that.
Would pdroid better accomplish what I am trying to do? Does it allow permissions changes of system apps?
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LBE seems pretty good so far, I like that it allows you to change the permissions of system apps.. and to choose "prompt" when some apps try to access permissions. The only thing I wonder is how the monitoring part will impact battery life, and the only thing I wish it did was allow was a change to the wake lock permission.
The main thing I am trying to accomplish is to cut off communication for certain apps altogether EXCEPT when I use them- facebook, google voice, g+, stuff like that. I also want to cut off the ability for certain apps to wakelock the phone at all, like gtalk(I don't use it at all) and a few others. The fact that some of these services don't allow you to change how they sync or they hold a wakelock I don't want.. I want to change that.
Would pdroid better accomplish what I am trying to do? Does it allow permissions changes of system apps?
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it is pretty light on battery. pdroid is better with battery from the looks of it. Wake lock is not part of the supported permission for both apps. lbe privacy supports firewall. for gtalk, sign out when not using it. for g+, uncheck it from sync. for Google voice, ... dunno yet
pdroid allows you to set permission of system apps
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it is pretty light on battery. pdroid is better with battery from the looks of it. Wake lock is not part of the supported permission for both apps. lbe privacy supports firewall. for gtalk, sign out when not using it. for g+, uncheck it from sync. for Google voice, ... dunno yet
pdroid allows you to set permission of system apps
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I've turned off sync on g+ and voice, signed out of gtalk.. but I'm trying to eliminate any wakelocks on these apps I rarely or never use. The biggest wakelock every time is the alarm sys, if I do a "dumpsys alarm > alarm.txt" in terminal, many of these apps are still keeping the phone from sleeping right..
Ultimately, I am probably trying to beat a dead horse, I got things tweaked to the point I'll never really have to worry about killing my battery in a day, but it seems like one of the features of us android users(or maybe it is xda users).. we want TOTAL control over what our phones do and don't do, lol.
LBE was heavy on my battery and Permissions Denied's interface is not intuitive enough.
I'd like to give PDroid a try but which patch to use for HTC Amaze? (beastmod 2.2.0)
jjane45 said:
LBE was heavy on my battery and Permissions Denied's interface is not intuitive enough.
I'd like to give PDroid a try but which patch to use for HTC Amaze? (beastmod 2.2.0)
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I've been using LBE since it was recommended to me.. and even though I don't see any wakelocks caused by it, and IT reduced the wakelocks other apps on the phone would cause, by battery life has degraded majorly. It is a cool app, but rather than get 24+ hours on a light use day, I have been getting at most 14 with barely any use. It may be because I have it monitoring my data use, so I may continue using it after I turn off monitoring to see if that is the draining part.
To answer your question, based on how I read the thread.. one of the downloads in the thread is used to CREATE the patch(and remover) which you can then flash and/or share with others.
PDroid is the only one I haven't tried yet, so think I'm gonna remove LBE and give it a try. One of these apps will surely give me control over these other apps, without being a bigger pain than those other apps.
Did you give PDroid a try and have any success with the Amaze?
If so, it would be great to share the patch.
I've been using LBE, avoiding the re-flash to deodex / Zipalign, for now, and it seems like its pretty good / handles system apps pretty well but I'd think about running both in tandem to cover what each doesn't do. Hmm
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Okay, digging deep into Android's source.... not for the feint of heart, and not for those whose coding skills are somewhere just above, "Hello, world!" (Me)
Here's the deal. We all know, with Froyo, Google disabled task killers. No app can kill another app. I for one am happy, because killing all apps when your screen goes off is stupid, pointless, and all kinds of harmful. Well, happy but for one little thing....
Killing other apps still does have a purpose! Specifically, in my case, I want to replace my long-press home option with a cool app switcher that also gives me the ability to kill a running app if I know I am done with it for the day and it refuses to die naturally. I'm sure there are other legitimate uses for it, such as killing everything before a benchmark. Sure, these are very specific, uncommon uses, but a thousand apps on the Market exist for specific, uncommon uses, and I think that most hackers/modders with su here would know better than to let a task killer run rampant. Anyone wanna discuss re-enabling this on 2.2?
Edit: I should correct myself. I keep saying "app," what I mean is "service." I know you can still stop (most) apps, but not services. Which keeps a lot of apps running, despite your best efforts. Forgive me for misusing the words
wait task managers dont actually kill in 2.2? This is news to me, as one I have downloaded seems to work fine..
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wait task managers dont actually kill in 2.2? This is news to me, as one I have downloaded seems to work fine..
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^ditto.......
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wait task managers dont actually kill in 2.2? This is news to me, as one I have downloaded seems to work fine..
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Taskiller will show the app was killed. I'm sure many others will too. But kill an app, then go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>Running, and you'll see that it's still running.
Edit: I should correct myself. I keep saying "app," what I mean is "service." I know you can still stop (most) apps, but not services. Which keeps a lot of apps running, despite your best efforts. Forgive me for misusing the words.
Forgive the obvious question but can't the services just be killed by a root request/process? If so, creating an interface for this should be easy as pants.
Of course, root is required but that shouldn't be a constraint.
djmcnz said:
Forgive the obvious question but can't the services just be killed by a root request/process? If so, creating an interface for this should be easy as pants.
Of course, root is required but that shouldn't be a constraint.
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True. But wouldn't it make more sense to allow the dozens of non-root apps that already exist to do this, rather than have to re-write an app that does the exact same thing, but has to use su? It would be safer, too. Running everything as root all the time runs contrary to the whole idea of Linux. It's better to give apps the permissions they need, rather than give everything unlimited power.
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True. But wouldn't it make more sense to allow the dozens of non-root apps that already exist to do this, rather than have to re-write an app that does the exact same thing, but has to use su? It would be safer, too. Running everything as root all the time runs contrary to the whole idea of Linux. It's better to give apps the permissions they need, rather than give everything unlimited power.
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Oh, I see. It might be useful but that's the essence of the Froyo changes... it can't be done now without root. You've have to compromise the security model... probably not a feasible route...
I think you are mistaken, maybe in Manage Applications it still shows it as "stoppable", however... I just did a test.
1. Opened DDMS on my PC.
2. Took note of an app to test with (speedtest) that was currently running.
3. Opened Advanced Task Manager.
4. Killed speedtest with task manager and watched it disappear from the running process list in DDMS.
Obviously ATM was able to kill the task. And, just so you know, it did not start running again. Also, it was removed from the "Running" tab in Manage Applications, so you are double wrong.
And, in case you were going to further the argument that you meant to say "Services", I just killed the PhoneFusion VM service with ATM, and it was removed from the running process list in DDMS.
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Oh, I see. It might be useful but that's the essence of the Froyo changes... it can't be done now without root. You've have to compromise the security model... probably not a feasible route...
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Or create something that uses su to kill these processes for third-party apps, without the need for them to have su. Similar to superuser apk, but on a more specific level. Or, we could make it even better, and have superuser hand out specific, user-approved permissions, rather than permit root access as a whole to any app.
Apparently there's not a lot of interest in this, but I thought it would make an interesting discussion.
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
bird11 said:
Are there any roms for this phone that are just basic without all of the google crap and other bloat?
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Android - Google = nothing.
Sooo.....
But to answer your question, no. Android is kinda based fully around linux and google services. Well I guess you could install an aosp rom and use titanium to remove all the googls aspects of the phone but at that point it'd be kinda useless....
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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You can remove anything you don't want...but, removing *ALL* Google applications would remove most functionality from your smartphone. You would be left with a phone that is able to make/receive calls (i.e. a phone), text, browse the web, and run any apps that you have installed prior to removal of app store (unless you're sideloading)
It'd basically be a regular phone with a touchscreen and wifi. If that is indeed what you want, take a ROM that is already without Sense (check the dev section for senseless ROMs) before or after you flash the rom, remove Google apps from /system/apps/
Removable apps (AT YOUR OWN RISK) are in various threads. Here is a link to one from S3 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1634624
And from SG2 board: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572191
Right now CM10 has a separate zip for gapps to be installed...so you could do that and not complete the flashing of gapps.
*I'm not responsible if you decide to go on a delete spree and somehow make your phone unusable.*
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Well deleing them doesn't mean they aren't still there. I'd rather they not be there to begin with. But from your first point then yes that's all I really want it to do.
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
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There are roms on other phones like cyanogenmod which remove all google stuff.
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CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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All it removes is sense and adds tweaks to it. All of the google framework and services are still there.
But seriously without the google stuff your phone would be just for making calls and texts and internet. No apps. Also the google apps and framework isn't bloat...
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I am pretty sure there's a way to just not get it to install the google apps. gdrocks mentioned it in this thread. Something to do with getting rid of the zip file which contains them.
Making calls, sending messages and using the internet is all I need.
PsiPhiDan said:
CyanogenMod doesn't remove Google stuff, it removes HTC or Samsung stuff. Maybe you're not sure what Google is vs. what bloat the hardware manufacturers put on phones?
The entire advantage of having an Android phone comes about through Google's apps and the slick way they are integrated into the OS. As others have stated, removing all the Google stuff renders your smartphone almost useless (beyond the bare minimum).
Anyway, just go to the CM9 thread and download CM10 from IRC.
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gdrocks has said you can get rid of the google stuff by removing the google apps zip. I have also read this in other places.
I don't consider google products an advantage. As somebody who doesn't use google products, not even their search. It's not something I really want. Unfortunatly the market doesn't really offer much else. Apple or android. Android should be a better option considering I should be able to use something that doesn't compromise my privacy from the start.
Thank you for the recommendations.
Android is based with google just like ios with apple.....well use custom roms and delete useless system apps !!!
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
Should've Gotten a Windows/Blackberry phone if you wanted a smartphone that doesn't the Google stuff. D:
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No, Cyanogenmod removes everything EXCEPT for the google stuff.
And we have CM10. Flash it if thats what you want
Get the blackberry or webos rom
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Let me rephrase everything said from everybody that way we can help you.
What are you trying to do/accomplish?
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Simply put I'd like a device that has many of the same hardware features of the evo 4g lte while not having to worry about my privacy. I see android as an open source OS which if there was any ridiculous measure being taken by google or other companies it would be found quickly. Though you can't say the same for other apps which aren't open source. These may be from anybody, not specifically google.
I don't use google's products so their apps and integration don't appeal to me.
Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
Android is pretty much Google.. if you want to remove everything Google.. buy a phone without Android..
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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Privacy is an illusion. You shouldnt be putting confidential things on a smartphone.
What you are trying to accomplish has nothing to do with a ROM
. Look at an apps permissions. If you dont agree with them, dont install it
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It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
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Open source doesn't mean no privacy. It means others can openly use and edit the code basically.
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I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
Sorry, I misunderstood your point. I see what you meant now.
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It's not installable apps I am worried about. Also you don't neccesarily need to even put anything on a phone for it to be a privacy risk. You say it's an illusion but that's a false dichotomy. There certainly are ways where privacy does not need to be an illusion.
I don't really understand what you are trying to make. Possibly you don't understand. I am saying android being open source lends itself to privacy. Something like OSX could be doing all sorts of spying under the covers even when disabled and nobody could even really know. Though if the OHA tried to do it with android it would would be easy to tell. The way around this ofcourse is to put those features in proprietary apps which come default.
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Actually being open source makes it easier for devs on xda to discover privacy issues not being fully disclosed. Look what treve discovered about HTC. That was huge and it was just some amateur dev who shook up every company who used keystroke data logging.
And google isn't bloat. That's just a bizarre statement. Your phone runs google software. Period. You really should get a different phone.
Non google roms? I don't mean to be a douche but you really should change the title of this thread if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing wrong with having privacy concerns but that statement makes you look completely clueless
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Hi.
My girlfriend has a Samsung Galaxy S II that has been acting a bit weird recently. Battery life has become extremely short, and she discovered hundreds of files all with names beginning with "tracker-c6446d57267343". Most mysterious of all is that something is somehow using the GPS even though it has been deactivated in the settings.
I'm suspecting her phone is infected with malware, and I'm planning to do a full wipe next time we meet. She's downloading AVG from Google Play right now to run a scan, but I'm going to do a full wipe anyway just to be sure and because she wants to have a clean start anyway.
I'm mostly curious if anyone has encountered this before. Is it malware? If so, how harmful is it? Keylogger, possibly?
Thanks.
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Hi.
My girlfriend has a Samsung Galaxy S II that has been acting a bit weird recently. Battery life has become extremely short, and she discovered hundreds of files all with names beginning with "tracker-c6446d57267343". Most mysterious of all is that something is somehow using the GPS even though it has been deactivated in the settings.
I'm suspecting her phone is infected with malware, and I'm planning to do a full wipe next time we meet. She's downloading AVG from Google Play right now to run a scan, but I'm going to do a full wipe anyway just to be sure and because she wants to have a clean start anyway.
I'm mostly curious if anyone has encountered this before. Is it malware? If so, how harmful is it? Keylogger, possibly?
Thanks.
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wow, first post for ya huh? good for you.
dont waste your time with AVG. just wipe the phone. and tell her not to install a bunch of stupid apps.
BluePoint Antivirus is my personal fave
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topiratiko said:
BluePoint Antivirus is my personal fave
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Lmao. anti virus on android. you guys are funny!
U know its pointless right?
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Lmao. anti virus on android. you guys are funny!
U know its pointless right?
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Exactly. It is. Odds are someone installed an app on yer girlfriends phone to be able to track her, tape pictures with the camera remotely, steal her credit card info, use the mic to record what's going on , etc. All of this can be achieved with ONE app and allows the person who installed it to remotely access the device. Also the app hides itself from detection in the app drawer and in the app manager . The legal reasons to install it are for if u lose your phone. But if someone got a hold of her phone they could easily have put this on and set it up within minutes. In other words. Someone can hear and see everything she's been doing.
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Exactly. It is. Odds are someone installed an app on yer girlfriends phone to be able to track her, tape pictures with the camera remotely, steal her credit card info, use the mic to record what's going on , etc. All of this can be achieved with ONE app and allows the person who installed it to remotely access the device. Also the app hides itself from detection in the app drawer and in the app manager . The legal reasons to install it are for if u lose your phone. But if someone got a hold of her phone they could easily have put this on and set it up within minutes. In other words. Someone can hear and see everything she's been doing.
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I'm finding it highly unlikely that any of her friends would do something like that, not to mention that none of them have the technical know-how (yes, I know it's not hard, but none of her friends are even technologically adept to pull something like this off) to do it. If such malware has been installed on her phone, it most likely came bundled with some app she downloaded. She doesn't get all her app downloads from Google Play.
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Lmao. anti virus on android. you guys are funny!
U know its pointless right?
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I like the way it looks on my status bar.
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I'm finding it highly unlikely that any of her friends would do something like that, not to mention that none of them have the technical know-how (yes, I know it's not hard, but none of her friends are even technologically adept to pull something like this off) to do it. If such malware has been installed on her phone, it most likely came bundled with some app she downloaded. She doesn't get all her app downloads from Google Play.
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There is no such thing as malware on android. everything you install tells you what it has access to.
The only thing like malware, would be an application that records stuff and sends it out, which would be listed when she installed the app, Tho im sure most rarely pay attention to that screen other than hitting install.
There are no viruses, no malware, or anything "hidden" that can attack stuff without your permission.
Wipe the phone. Dont install pirated apps or stupid pointless apps.
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There is no such thing as malware on android. everything you install tells you what it has access to.
The only thing like malware, would be an application that records stuff and sends it out, which would be listed when she installed the app, Tho im sure most rarely pay attention to that screen other than hitting install.
There are no viruses, no malware, or anything "hidden" that can attack stuff without your permission.
Wipe the phone. Dont install pirated apps or stupid pointless apps.
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Malware can definitely affect android. Sure there are safeguards built in to reduce the chances of it happening, but they rely on the user to enforce them. I can almost guarantee that a majority of android users don't look at what permissions an app is asking for prior to installation. I know for a fact that out of the 5 android users in my house I am the only one that checks permissions before I install anything. In addition, even if one is checking the permissions, a malicious app can easily disguise itself as an everyday app that requires the permissions the Malware needs but would be overlooked because the host app has a valid reason for needing those permissions.
A dialer, email, sms, social networking app will all ask for access to your contacts. And it's necessary for that app to do its job. Well if that same app has unlimited access to your network then it can now take your contacts and upload them.
Now a virus is another thing all together. While it's possible on a rooted phone with rw permissions in the system directory, it's unlikely since most apps exist in a "sandbox" so to speak. It wouldn't be that difficult for a root explorer app to gain access to your /system directory and wreak havoc and then target your sdcard and wipe out your data. But not before uploading whatever it wants (a lot of explorers require network permissions for cloud service, etc). But then I guess that would be classified as malware and not a virus
And lets not leave out all the apps that use social networks to login..
But the last two Lines of your post say it all. Stay away from pirated apps and watch what 3rd party apps you're trusting these permissions with.
I read that CM10 does not have the feature that made CM7 really stand above all other roms. App permissions management. If this is true, I'd like to know why such a terrific feature was not brought over to the newer versions. I really liked that I could take away the ability for apps to "automatically start at boot."
Is there something built in to ICS / JB that negates the need for this feature to be in CyanogenMod?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed light on this.
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It was never really stable in the first place, and caused FCs.
However, there are root apps that allow permissions management anyways, so if youu really want that feature just download one of those suckers
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gagdude said:
It was never really stable in the first place, and caused FCs.
However, there are root apps that allow permissions management anyways, so if youu really want that feature just download one of those suckers
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Thanks for the reply. It's a shame they took it out, even if it made some apps unstable. I'll look in the play store for something similar.
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It was never really stable in the first place, and caused FCs.
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It was perfectly stable. The apps that FCed were just horribly programmed. Actually, what are Exceptions for ?
If this is true, I'd like to know why such a terrific feature was not brought over to the newer versions.
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Somebody on the CM-Forum claimed to know that Google forced CM to drop permission management, otherwise they would have closed GooglePlay for CM devices.
There are 2 apps you could try ( look em up in the forum):
-LBE privacy guard
-Pdroid
I used Pdroid for quite some time and I quite liked it, because it spoofes app permissions. so no more FCs.
However, Pdroid corrupted my contacts and calendar while syncing with SyncMate. So I don't use it anymore.
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Somebody on the CM-Forum claimed to know that Google forced CM to drop permission management, otherwise they would have closed GooglePlay for CM devices.
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If that is true, it's a real shame. I didn't know google used strong-arm tactics like that.
Finally!!
It's been over a year since I posted this question and it looks like I'm getting my wish.
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-updating-privacy-guard-20-new-features-coming-cm102
Didn't really know if this was the right place to post this, but I was just wondering what everyone uses their rooted me7 S4 for? Like what sort of apps do you utilize since there isn't much as far as customizing that we can do without an unlocked bootloader. Just a discussion for everyone to spitball in while we wait for the next android god to unlock our phones!
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Used to do it for the different ROMs and using the MODs.
Now I've kind of outgrown the whole "crack-flashing" phase, and just root it to try any new ground-breaking MOD/ROM/App, etc.
Also, I just love knowing that I have the freedom of being Rooted.
XDA community is beautiful.
It's easier just to name the apps I mainly use when rooted:
AdAway (ad blocker)
Titanium Backup (backup app)
DroidWall (firewall)
Also uninstalling/freezing bloatware. Of course, it's awesome because you can flash ROMs, too.
Theming and removing bloat
I rooted so I could use Wallet, a few other apps and to remove bloat. I can't stand the crap Verizon puts on their phones. 3+ years ago, I'd flash a rom almost daily but I too have grown out of the crack flashing phase.
Well, at first I used admin/sudo/root to learn what made my computer work, and consequently what made it stop working, and how to repair things when the system didn't like what I did to it. Then how to make the computer more responsive through config edits.
When I got my first andriod it was pretty much the above all over again but way littler. I don't think I can count how many times I've soft bricked my phones by poking around in file systems I shouldn't have been poking around in.
Then I focused on how to make my devices faster without using prebuilt "OMGITSFASTHUMINAHUMINAHUMINA" script pack zips found across the internet and here. So learned how scripts worked in general to automate a lot of mundane functions.
Then, My buddy Kyle was working on a performance kang of liquid for the DX. I offered to help get more performance out of it. And then I eventually took over the ROM building in that project and a bunch of others for that series of devices.
Root isn't so much to me about "check it out bro I'm rooted, I've got stock cyanogenmod10 on, yeah high five" as it is about what I'm able to do with that ability and more importantly what I'm able to learn by actually using that ability. That's why I try to make my updater scripts print on screen what the script is doing... To potentially help someone who didn't know what was going on potentially learn a little bit.
Besides all that, I enjoy theming my UI. And with how much I end up flashing ROMs RomToolbox Pro has been my go to for app backups. :good:
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Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
Aside from the performance and mod benefits, I find it therapeutic. Everytime I freeze/uninstall Vznavigator, Back up assistant plus, Verizon tones or anything Verizon related app I feel good knowing im doing mankind a favor by eliminating an atrocious and insulting excuse of an app.
Plus...theres nothing better than the feeling you get when you toggle that wifi hotspot switch on, especially after you've just successfully upgraded and kept your unlimited data by enduring the long, grueling and degrading task of dealing with the incompetence that is Vzw customer service.
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I prefer to root just because of the awesome features.. Open source will always be popular and gives everyone their own chance to be different.
Remove bloatware, remove the persistent WiFi on the dropdown (which eats battery life), adaway so I get rid of stupid ads (I prefer to pay for the app and not the ads). ROM's when the bootloader gets unlocked (again).
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Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
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This would be great
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I'm rooted for, TitaniumBackup, AdFree, Tasker (disable/enable pattern). No more ROM flashing for me even though I was able to save MDK.
Adaway
Titanium Bakcup
Custom ROM
Root Call Blocker
WiFi Tether TrevE Mod
Greenify
WiFi Pass Recovery
etc. :cyclops:
I have TiBU and that's it from everything you guys have listed lol. I read that root call blocker wasn't working properly? And this ad blocker sounds awesome. Also, how do you block the persistent wifi that eats battery? Maybe thats a dumb question haha.
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Anthony825 said:
I have TiBU and that's it from everything you guys have listed lol. I read that root call blocker wasn't working properly? And this ad blocker sounds awesome. Also, how do you block the persistent wifi that eats battery? Maybe thats a dumb question haha.
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Ask and you shall receive. I did a quick Google search and found a few threads on this.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/07/0...g-wifi-notification-on-the-verizon-galaxy-s3/
http://androidcommunity.com/how-to-...-notification-on-verizon-galaxy-s-4-20130527/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41940273
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290634
Awesome thanks very much! I'll have to check this out and shut that annoyance down.
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Well I did a bit of digging further and found this info. The YouTube video and DroidForums thread requires custom recovery, but the XDA-Devs link at the bottom seems to have a method for ME7 FW release. Trying that tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT0QvmeHt0U
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sa...fi-notifications-smart-stay-eye-pulldown.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297213
myn said:
Theoretically speaking you could run another ROM assuming it's compatible with the stock kernel.
It almost begs the question, maybe it's time for an In-Android (runtime) ROM flashing tool non-dependent on recovery. You wouldn't gain the other benefits of a normal recovery but you'd at least be able to flash ROM's, sans certain elements.
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I suggested something similar in the bounty thread. I was thinking something similar to boot manager where you could flash ROMs while in android to the SD... Could that work?
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taxi333 said:
Adaway
Titanium Bakcup
Custom ROM
Root Call Blocker
WiFi Tether TrevE Mod
Greenify
WiFi Pass Recovery
etc. :cyclops:
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Sorry to bounce backwards in posts, but I was unable to locate an app called Adaway. Is it not able to be found in the app store?
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