I have read a whole topic about gps and who might use and not use.
Complaints and otherbthings.
As me and my wife use the prime and are very happy with it we would like to use itr navigation.
We like tonse the programm on a bigger screen when we travell bybcar through china on the htc sensation we use navigon but we can not istall it onbthe prima.
So we wanna think in solutions not discuss teh gps problem in the prime there are allready so many posts about that.
So i am looking for creative solutions like i have whatsapp on my prime now without fone card.
Why i would like navigation with maps on prime.
1 it is a nice big screen and it saves data.
We both have a htc sensation and a prime (my wife is taiwanese and inam dutch) so dutch makenexcelent cheese but taiwanese make excelent elecronics.
Our fones and primes are rooted offcourse.
So can we use our fone gps andnconnect with prime?
Europe maps and asian maps how can we use navigon on the prime?
So i not likento know whats not good or possible just creative ideas or solutions.
Will try myself as well and share the results just like the whatsapp solution.
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So how getbthe htc gps coordinates to the prime like through blnue tooth?
Andnwich programm we usenfor navigation (maps on prime)
Try TetherGPS. Comments indicate there may be issues with ICS.
put this on your prime:
https://market.android.com/details?id=googoo.android.btgps&hl=en
put this on your android phone:
https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5TYWVua28uR3BzT3ZlckJ0Il0.
or buy this:
http://www.amazon.com/TomTom-Bluetooth-GPS-Receiver-Canada/dp/B000HZI2YY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Installed these programs on the htc sensation and prime.
Try to connect the two but seems they not wanna connect through the software wich is downloaded and installed. Buth are in the setting menu connected.?
Grtz
Your phone and tp must be paired...
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Oke got it working.
now howget a working navigation programm with maps on the prime i tryed navigon but not work. Others from b market not work.
And can thisnprog take over the info from blue tooth gps running on the prime?
How do you make whatsapp to work on Prime?
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My solution so far. I'm still figuring out what map software I will ultimately use but the Pharos BT receiver and BT GPS app work great.
Used Bluetooth GPS app (Android Market https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwxLDUwMSwiZ29vZ29vLmFuZHJvaWQuYnRncHMiXQ.... ) to connect my 12 channel Pharos iGPS-500. Make sure to check enable mock GPS provider (which will be BT GPS app).
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Check in BT GPS app that I was locked solid on 12 satellites! I'd much rather use this because it is a true GPS receiver and seems better than anything in a smartphone (at least mine) or tablet.
I used Sygic GPS Navigation for the map downloaded (free 7 day trial) from the market. To use off-line you need to download area specific map as well.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sygic.aura#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDUwMSwiY29tLnN5Z2ljLmF1cmEiXQ..
I made sure both my GPS and WiFi were turned off. Followed me all the way home. If Asus ever fixes the GPS issue wouldn't matter to me. I was actually going to do this on my smartphone a while back because my GPS in it is not that good. I just never got around to doing it. I got this to work on my phone as well. I'm kind of glad the Prime has this "problem" it lit a fire under me to get this done.
There are many other solutions that work like this you just have to dig around on the www.
This is my setup unless I decide to buy a different map apps which are available.
theandies said:
My solution so far. I'm still figuring out what map software I will ultimately use but the Pharos BT receiver and BT GPS app work great.
Used Bluetooth GPS app (Android Market https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwxLDUwMSwiZ29vZ29vLmFuZHJvaWQuYnRncHMiXQ.... ) to connect my 12 channel Pharos iGPS-500. Make sure to check enable mock GPS provider (which will be BT GPS app).
Check in BT GPS app that I was locked solid on 12 satellites! I'd much rather use this because it is a true GPS receiver and seems better than anything in a smartphone (at least mine) or tablet.
I used Sygic GPS Navigation for the map downloaded (free 7 day trial) from the market. To use off-line you need to download area specific map as well.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sygic.aura#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDUwMSwiY29tLnN5Z2ljLmF1cmEiXQ..
I made sure both my GPS and WiFi were turned off. Followed me all the way home. If Asus ever fixes the GPS issue wouldn't matter to me. I was actually going to do this on my smartphone a while back because my GPS in it is not that good. I just never got around to doing it. I got this to work on my phone as well. I'm kind of glad the Prime has this "problem" it lit a fire under me to get this done.
There are many other solutions that work like this you just have to dig around on the www.
This is my setup unless I decide to buy a different map apps which are available.
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No offense but anyone who doesn't already have a Pharos BT GPS this would he very cost inefficient
PrimeTimeBro said:
No offense but anyone who doesn't already have a Pharos BT GPS this would he very cost inefficient
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Agreed but there are many on ebay and I'm sure someone could find a nice used one. I bought this to us with my PDA years ago. I'm just trying to help people that want to use a 10.1 inch tablet for navigation. One thing using a tablet (especailly the Prime with it's outstanding display) is that it lights up the inside of the car like a light bulb, even with the brightness turned all the way down and the software set to night mode.
There is a post and explanation in the forum about whatsapp how to just search on whats app and its there how i did it
software problem
The bluetooth program on the prine many time say service discovery failed. Sometimes when close the program on the prime or on htc and restart once in a while i get it working but most of the time when push connect again after restart it give service discovery failed.?
Could there be a blue tooth setting wrong?
shindai.china said:
The bluetooth program on the prine many time say service discovery failed. Sometimes when close the program on the prime or on htc and restart once in a while i get it working but most of the time when push connect again after restart it give service discovery failed.?
Could there be a blue tooth setting wrong?
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My experience with using BT to use my phone as a GPS receiver with the Prime.
I experienced something similar the first time I tried to use my SGS2. This isue was with the phone and not my Prime.
Once you turn bluetooth on for both devices go into one of the bluetooth setting on either device and search for "device" the device doing the searching should locate the other bluetooth device. Hit connect. You will then be asked to accept the connection on the other device.
Now both devices should be paired.
Open Bluetoo GPS on th ePrime
Open GPS over BT on the phone
If the service discovery fails (as it did in may case) I had to do a cold reboot of my phone. Power off the phone completely.
A better option in my opinion for navigation purposes is not to use a phone's GPS but to get a Bluetooth GPS receiver. I had no trouble connecting a BT GPS receiver to the Prime using Bluetooth GPS on the Prime. You wil get better battery life out of a BT GPS receiver.
Good luck.
Loses GPS
I have been experimenting with BT GPS and GPS over BT with my Droid2. It works fine initially but then says it lost GPS after a few minutes. Looking at the BT GPS app seems to indicate that the connection to the Droid2 is still there and working fine, but the apps (like Navigation) seem to lose their GPS connection. Restarting the application seems to reconnect for a few minutes, then it loses it again.
I've watched the Droid2 and its lock seems rock solid.
Am I missing some setting? I have the "mock location" enabled on the Prime and in the BT GPS app.
gps
Hhhhmmm it seems that the fone connection and bluentooth connect nos so smooth with the prime.
Like a poster saidnmaybebshould have a separate gps receiver with blue tooth to solve the connection problem.
Any suggestion wich one?
Still struglingnwith finding a navigation program with mapsmon the nprime. Seems all programs i download from other markets the n the standard market have timre limit or not run at all like navigon.
i-Blue 737 locks in 39 seconds from a cold start, ultra sensitive..
One of the leaders in this area is Transystem, Inc., they have recently released a Bluetooth GPS receiver, the i-Blue 737 which is marketed as a high performance and accurate Bluetooth GPS receiver. Let's take a look at how it performs with Windows Mobile!
WHAT'S HOT
The key attributes of the i-Blue 737 are:
32-Channel all-in-view satellite tracking
Ultra high sensitivity MTK chipset (-158dBm)
Smart power saving function for up to 25 hours of operation on one charge
Smart auto sleep & wake function for up to 360 hours in standby mode
Fast position acquisition, 39 seconds from a cold start, 36 seconds from a warm start, and 1 second from a hot start.
Compatible with WAAS, EGNOS, and MSAS accuracy augmentation signals
Position accuracy within 3 meters without augmentation signal
Position accuracy within 2.5 meters with WAAS, EGNOS, or MSAS augmentation signal
Support for the NMEA-0183 V3.0 GPS communication standard V3.0 (4800-115200 baud)
Support for the Bluetooth version 1.1, 1.2 and 2.0 Serial Protocol Profile (SPP)
connect to sygic
I connected my htc fone now to the prime and on the prime the programm blue tooth gps shows the htc satelits.
Butnseems i can not let sygic find the coordinates from bluetooth gos it keeps starting the primes gps. Can not find a setting to redirect the sygic navigation program to the blue tooth programm.
How can indo this?
I knew i kept my Holux M-1000 bluetooth GPS around for a reason! It never dawned on me to try that till i read this post. Thanks for the awesome suggestion... I will try it out more tomorrow when I'm out driving all over town. But so far so good!!!
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I used this https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mobilej.btgps
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blue tooth seems not connect
Seems i not get a stabill connection between the program on the htc and the prime. Sometimes it works fine sometimes not just try connect on htc bkuetooth can not connect then try on prime itnwill connect.??? Other way arrund same someone same experiance.? Looks like the bluentooth not connect so nice?....
Once it is connected its stabil and works perfect. So what can i do i can connect them in a smooth way.
Any ideas?
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Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
Have you tried with google maps. For some reason i can get GPS signal in my house with google, but not with live. Also, under the GPS hardware, does yours say none, and baud 9600 or 4800?
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Never mind, I got it working, live just connected in my house. I have baud set to 4800, don't think it really matters. (anyone know what baud is anyway, and what the best settings are?). I wish there was a way to do this without live though.
baud is just another word for bits per second, its the connection speed of the hardware, since its internal it probably wouldnt make much of a differnce
nuebay said:
Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
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I have everything working but tom tom 6. It says no GPS device what gives? Do you have to have Live search running in the background for tom tom to work. I close Live Search after aquiring five satellites then launch tom tom 6 and all I get is no GPS device. hehe I know this is a beta and not a release rom. I have no Idea how people can aquire a satellite in their home. Shesh I have a huge solarium and still have to go outside.
what do u mean you get five satellites? Also to answer your question, what i do is after getting the GPS fixture in Live Search, I just click start and go to Tom Tom, without doing anything to live search. It seems to close automatically when I open Tom Tom.
Does anyone know if the GPS signal comes via the Sprint towers or is my phone communicating directly with the satellites in the sky? I ask because getting a signal inside my house seems unreal.
GPS signals come from satellites which is why the signal degrades when you move inside, eventually becoming nonexistent or unreal.
When someone says they are getting five satellites it means that is how many signals their device is receiving and using to triangulate its position. It requires at least four satellite signals to triangulate a current position and the more signals it can pick up on the more accurate the triangulation.
Ks.
when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
For some reason I always have to setup the GPS device in TomTom. It works but as soon as I close TomTom it looses the GPS settings. Then I have to run through the setup again...
Anyone else having the same issue?
My GPS wasn't working at all until I turned on GPS location under the phone menu. Location Settings under services.
Once I turned that on my GPS started picking up satellites with in 5 seconds sitting in my house.
Does Anybody know how to get the GPS to work with iGo 2006? I am having no luck at all getting iGo to recognize the GPS device.
TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
Shadowmite said:
TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
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Thanks for the update. =)
Cheers!
Livesearch.
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
fusQer said:
when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
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Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
supdawg said:
Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
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I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
pflatlyne said:
I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
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I think what they do is place devices selectively in those locations that send out false GPS signals to confuse the NAV devices. (probably from ground based stations or on moving convoys that are trying to NOT be detected)
mshnayde said:
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
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http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
the automatic download from live.com hasn't worked for me for a while either. it gets to around 15% and stalls...
Has anyone gotten Garmin Mobile XT to work with the internal GPS?
I am going to hold off on Flashing and give DCD some time to mature the release since I already have a G10 bluetooth reciever and have no issues but it would be nice to be able to leave that in my car and use internal when I'm not in my own car.
As far as i know...these are govt sats that are "open to the publuc." In a state of emergency or other situation, they can be blocked or certain areas can be blocked so only, say, certain govts/military could use them. This was the only way the us govt was willing and able to let the gen pop use the sats.
My friend is visiting home in the U.K. and he has a Sprint Touch Pro. Understandably, the phone does not work in England, but he fully expected the GPS to work, yet he cannot get it to work at all.
He has been trying with different GPS software, but can't get any indication the GPS is working...
Currently, he is at his parents' house and can surf just fine on their WiFi connection, but no GPS...
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Matt
MultiMatt said:
My friend is visiting home in the U.K. and he has a Sprint Touch Pro. Understandably, the phone does not work in England, but he fully expected the GPS to work, yet he cannot get it to work at all.
He has been trying with different GPS software, but can't get any indication the GPS is working...
Currently, he is at his parents' house and can surf just fine on their WiFi connection, but no GPS...
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Matt
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The GPS requires a cell data connection because it is "assisted GPS"
TheBigCheese said:
The GPS requires a cell data connection because it is "assisted GPS"
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If he had tom tom or something that doesnt require downloading maps it would work though right?
YL Groper said:
If he had tom tom or something that doesnt require downloading maps it would work though right?
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That's a very good question, and one I haven't have the opportunity to test on my Touch Pro yet. I have iGo Nav-n-Go on my device. What if I were in the middle of nowhere in Kentucky or Indiana, with no cell signal - wouldn't I still be able to navigate? If not, that is a HUGE disappointment in the GPS capability. I thought A-GPS was one thing (triangulation from towers) and full-on GPS (with a dedicated GPS chip) communicated directly with satellites...
Matt
Alright, I disproved that theory about assisted GPS. Last night while driving home from hockey, I turned off my phone via the Com Manager, then opened up iGo Nav N Go and right away my GPS found where I was at, and the program worked flawlessly.
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It didn't require the Sprint radio to be running at all. Granted, apps like Google Maps or Live Search would be ineffective with the radio turned off, but if you have a stand-alone GPS application such as TomTom, Nav N Go or something similar, then GPS should work just fine.
Obviously in the case of being in the U.K., it would require having the maps for that country, otherwise the stand-alone apps wouldn't be able to show you squat!
Matt
Why do people still thing these phones NEED data connections to get GPS fixes? They *can* use them to achieve a quicker fix but do not require it. Keep in mind, without a connection it might take a while to get a fix.
This has been proven many times... Actually, I personally had comm manager off on my phone on a plane, but the GPS on, watching the speed and altitude. I don't know if the airline would have liked that...
GG
edit* Certian GPS nav software will let you load the maps from other sources, googlemaps for instance will not.
Just heard back from my friend after he read my message about the success of my test. He said the main thing he's wanting to do is geotag photos, and the Touch Pro simply will not find a GPS signal with the camera app nor footprints. He's not even concerned about using a map application at this point (heck, it's his hometown!).
Not sure why he can't get a signal for geotagging purposes, but it's just not happening. What a drag...
Matt
MultiMatt said:
My friend is visiting home in the U.K. and he has a Sprint Touch Pro. Understandably, the phone does not work in England, but he fully expected the GPS to work, yet he cannot get it to work at all.
He has been trying with different GPS software, but can't get any indication the GPS is working...
Currently, he is at his parents' house and can surf just fine on their WiFi connection, but no GPS...
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Matt
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Not, sure but the Crackberry Pearl user on my account gets data for a huge roaming rate over there. All her emails came through, and we all know the Pearl isnt a better phone, so maybe its his plan? Who knows. Sorry
I was in poland recently and also treyd to get tomtom with poland maps on it to get a fix, on my sprint touch pro with agps disabled...
BUT WITH NO LUCK!!!!
I treyd everything like turning off phone in comm manager and so but it didnt work.
Anyone know if you can actually make the phone NOT need a data connection to use the GPS??? I had an Alltel Touch Pro with Tomtom that NEVER needed a data connection to get a lock but now that Im with Sprint and have a Sprint Touch Pro, Im using the same version of Tomtom with the same map and installed it the same way but no matter what, it ALWAYS want to use a data connection. Anyonw have a clue why?? I tried turning my radio off and it could not get a lock for about a half hour. As soon as I turned the radio back on it got a lock within seconds. Any ideas. Thanks.
Sorry for my stupidity if that's what is it.
I have connected my PS3 controller via bluetooth without issue and this shows up in bluetooth paired devices fine.
Tried to pair with my desire HD to use bluetooth. Device pairs for a couple of seconds then phone moves back down from the paired section of the screen to the available.
I'm running ICS on phone, tried CM7 rom on phone in case that's the issue but no change.
Tried my partners Samsung galaxy ace and same concern.
All i want is gps over bluetooth and this part is fundamental to getting it working.
Am I missing something here. Please help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483101
Thanks,
But that is the thread i was following.
It is step 5 i am having bother with, phone doesnt stay paired for more than a couple of seconds
1)get Gps2Bluettooth app and put it on your phone. read instructions in there. you will need to place widget on homescreen to activate whenever you want to tether GPS BT connection
2) get BluetoothGPS app and install it on the prime. follow instructions
3) pair up both devices. make sure to enable Gps2BT widget on phone and cut on GPS on your phone. then go into Bluetooth GPS app on prime and make sure that the box that says enable mock GPS provider is checked. then choose your device in connect box. then press connect. it should say connected afterwards. give it a lil and you will see your phone GPS icon in notification area going off or transferring data.
4)now your phone is sending GPS info to prime through BT. you can use the Bluetooth GPS app to see your satellite data or whatever. or now you can open Google maps or earth and it'll get the GPS info and lock on your location. or another other app needing GPS. for some reason I can't get GPS test to show the data. maybe because when I tried I didn't have a lock yet. don't know. worth trying out. but it works with all navigation apps I've tried so far.
very easy n simple setup. I just went into detail to make sure you hook up the right way. works great for me and every time. I use my Atrix to tether GPS through BT. my atrix sees n locks on Gps satellites very fast.
thanks for the reply but i think everyone may be missing the point. my phones wont pair for anymore than a couple of seconds using bluetooth. ps3 controller does fine.
Not sure why, hence i have no phone to select in the bluetooth gps app connection list.
Phones show as pairing and move into the paired devices list on connection screen but then drop down back to available devices as if pairing has failed but i cant understand why, wondering if anyone else had this issue.
Thanks
sounds like a phone problem, check the forum for your phone & rom...
That is exactly what I thought originally, altough my phone connects and pairs with car bluetooth fine.
Switched from ICS to CM7 with phone to rule out rom, now back to GB sense ROM. (Not had change to test latter yet.)
Tested and same scenario on partners Samsung Galaxy Ace.
Will keep trying and feed back.
Thanks all
Just to let anyone know who may experience same issue.
I managed to fix concern with factory reset of tablet, bluetooth somehow wasnt playing right
The Gps bug affects all stock Xperia 2011 phones.
The bug is simple, i explain it better then possible:
i turn on the Gps, wait for a fix, and start to navigate, after 5 minutes the signal drops for about 30 seconds, then works for other 5 minutes and again drops, other 5 minutes and drops, and again again again
every 5 minutes the gps drops without exceptions
now the datas collected in months of this problem:
1) this happens with traffic data OFF, background data OFF, absolutely no contact to the network at all, and offline app like Sygic, Navigon, Copilot etc
2) this not happen with Maps, also in offline mode, with a little portion of map downloaded before, and no data traffic
3) this not happen with Data enabled or Wifi enabled
4) this also not happen in Flight mode, and perhaps it is the most important information, so is not an hardware problem.
5) with the build 3.0.1.A.145 this didn't happen with data disabled !
Here a log of the bug by a user with the same problem.
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What do we think about? :
for an unknown reason Sony firmware attempts to collect data every 5 minutes, also if the phone have data disabled. If don't find data, there is a drop out !!
Basically A-gps works always, even if data are disabled (i have no data traffic, my sim is disabled for internet connection), and this must not happen, because it causes a drop, its attempt is not silent for who have data OFF.
P.s OFF topic replies will not be tolerated more.
This thread is for share real problem, confirmed by Sony itself.
If you don't see the bug, is better for you, but please don't discridit these words.
Here the official Sony discussion: http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/25770?start=0&tstart=0
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I hope you tried at Arc forum. Maybe you will have better luck.
Just one question though, have you tried ICS beta? Maybe they solved problem there, so it will be available when ICS comes.
A SW developer on talk.sonymobile says:
"I can now confirm that my fix will be included in the ICS update.
Since the problem occurs because the phone tries to connect to a server to download satellite orbit information there are there are three things you can do until you've got the ICS update:
- Download assistance data while connected to a Wi-Fi network. You can do that by installing the "XtraData Downloader" from Android Market. While on a Wi-Fi network press the "Download XTRA data immediately" button. Do this right before leaving the network since the data is only usable for a limited amount of time.
- Make sure that the signal conditions are good while using the GPS receiver. It will only try to connect to the server until it has successfully decoded the information from the satellites. If using the GPS indoors or while driving in a city the satellite signals will be too weak, but if using the GPS in conditions where the signals are not obstructed by buildings the connection attempts should stop after about 20 minutes when the information has been decoded.
- Activate the data connection (I understand that this is probably not a reasonable solution for you)."
We just have to wait ICS
Madfysh said:
I hope you tried at Arc forum. Maybe you will have better luck.
Just one question though, have you tried ICS beta? Maybe they solved problem there, so it will be available when ICS comes.
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Thanks, i will try in Arc forum.
No, i don't want to unlock bootloader and install custom rom.
magobetz said:
A SW developer on talk.sonymobile says:
"I can now confirm that my fix will be included in the ICS update.
Since the problem occurs because the phone tries to connect to a server to download satellite orbit information there are there are three things you can do until you've got the ICS update:
- Download assistance data while connected to a Wi-Fi network. You can do that by installing the "XtraData Downloader" from Android Market. While on a Wi-Fi network press the "Download XTRA data immediately" button. Do this right before leaving the network since the data is only usable for a limited amount of time.
- Make sure that the signal conditions are good while using the GPS receiver. It will only try to connect to the server until it has successfully decoded the information from the satellites. If using the GPS indoors or while driving in a city the satellite signals will be too weak, but if using the GPS in conditions where the signals are not obstructed by buildings the connection attempts should stop after about 20 minutes when the information has been decoded.
- Activate the data connection (I understand that this is probably not a reasonable solution for you)."
We just have to wait ICS
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I know the Oscar's reply, but we have to wait other 2 months, and we are waiting alredy from 5 months, it is no possibile.
maRRRco89 said:
Thanks, i will try in Arc forum.
No, i don't want to unlock bootloader and install custom rom.
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You don't need to. You can just ask someone who is still using stock ICS beta, for example in official xda thread for ICS beta: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513172
Although I don't know if that bug is only on Neo or on Arc also, but I guess you know that
New demo video add in first post.
very embarassed bug, not expected from Sony
and also 6 months of wait
Inconceivable !!!
Not a problem I have... but then again, I use data. Because I can.
Have you searched this out? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250226
As for "Sony" being somehow bad, I suggest you try the Taiwanese or Korean brands and then comment. The "bug" is largely a Google/Android issue. Apparently.
Why don't you simply sell the phone and buy something that actually suits your needs? I'm not being anyway sarcastic, but that's what I would do... particularly as you have had this problem for ages and received no insight from any of the umpteen posts you have made.
The bug is "by Sony" in this case, because was introduced with the new firmwares.
When i bought the phone the Gps worked perfectly, or i would have return the phone to my local shop.
Now change it with Samsung or Htc, have no sense, i will lose 50% of the real price, for a problem introduced by Sony itself !
When you say "the bug is an adroid issue", you mean this Gps bug, or the generic world of bugs?
I never saw a Gps bug like this in any android phone.
I searched that discussion, and i wait for a reply by Crypted, the author.
GLONASS
Just want to share an article with you about GPS, which is written by Sony Developer (GPS) who claimed that Sony Devices 2011(Neo V included) are capable of showing more accurate GPS date then others,
GLONASS support in our latest Xperia™ phones
kormatoes said:
I'm confused at why u post this all over ,
Return hand set and move on, and a old one at that
I think what I'm trying to say is what fw you using is it old is it rooted what u changed what apps you using
Are you using correct fw for your region
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I don't understand the first part of your reply, sorry, but my english is not too colloquial.
About the second part, my firmware is absolutely stock and not rooted, without change in the system.
4.0.2.A.0.62. The bug was introduced since the first 4.0 firmware, with the old 3.0 one was perfect. But i don't want to downgrade, old firmwares weren't so good and there is a lack of important features.
Actually i use Sygic gps navigation.
I repeat it: is not an app problem, but a system one, a real bug.
My firmware is appropriate for my region, it is that correct.
zmbutt said:
Just want to share an article with you about GPS, which is written by Sony Developer (GPS) who claimed that Sony Devices 2011(Neo V included) are capable of showing more accurate GPS date then others,
GLONASS support in our latest Xperia™ phones
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Yes, good feature, but useless if the Gps drops continuosly.
Hello,
With my previous Galaxy s7 I used Tasker to turn on my hotspot when it detected my cars Bluetooth. But it doesn't seem to work on my S9+ (US Sprint). I've tried Macrodroid as well as Tasker with the 'Nougat+ Tasker Tethering Control'.
It seems the issue may be Oreo related? Anybody know a way?
My car stereo is a Joying Android unit and it's nice not having to constantly turn hotspot on manually to use Pandora etc.
I have the exact same problem. Seems like the device has to be rooted.
That may be a possibility, but I'm holding out hope that it's just a Tasker update.
berzerkus said:
That may be a possibility, but I'm holding out hope that it's just a Tasker update.
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Unfortunately it´s the same with other "task apps"
berzerkus said:
Hello,
With my previous Galaxy s7 I used Tasker to turn on my hotspot when it detected my cars Bluetooth. But it doesn't seem to work on my S9+ (US Sprint). I've tried Macrodroid as well as Tasker with the 'Nougat+ Tasker Tethering Control'.
It seems the issue may be Oreo related? Anybody know a way?
My car stereo is a Joying Android unit and it's nice not having to constantly turn hotspot on manually to use Pandora etc.
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I have the same problem. Did you find a Solution?
I have not yet found a solution. In all honesty, I gave up. If there's no answer here, there likely isn't one to be found
If you have access to Samsung's Good Lock 2018 app (via the Galaxy Apps store), install it. There's an app called "Routines" that gets installed with it. It is like a *very * basic Tasker, but it has the necessary permissions to turn on the tethering on my AT&T S9+. I fought with Tasker/AutoInput on my S7E and the S9+ until the new Good Lock came out.
nivron said:
If you have access to Samsung's Good Lock 2018 app (via the Galaxy Apps store), install it. There's an app called "Routines" that gets installed with it. It is like a *very * basic Tasker, but it has the necessary permissions to turn on the tethering on my AT&T S9+. I fought with Tasker/AutoInput on my S7E and the S9+ until the new Good Lock came out.
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This worked great for me. I really wish I'd have looked back at this post sooner!
anyone know how to get Routines to use Bluetooth NEAR instead of necessarily being Bluetooth CONNECTED?
nivron said:
If you have access to Samsung's Good Lock 2018 app (via the Galaxy Apps store), install it. There's an app called "Routines" that gets installed with it. It is like a *very * basic Tasker, but it has the necessary permissions to turn on the tethering on my AT&T S9+. I fought with Tasker/AutoInput on my S7E and the S9+ until the new Good Lock came out.
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If only there was a routine to turn off wifi tether when the bluetooth connection dropped.... It's so close to perfect.
I guess this is all a moot point now that Routines is no longer supported in Pie.
Its June 14th, 2019.
AT&T Note 9 locked, not rooted, all the latest updates.
I have tried just about every possible way of doing this. There are a few ways that work, but only one works reliably.
1. Install Samsung Good Lock - It works for me, today, as of posting, on pie just fine.
2. install Tasker
3. in Good lock - create a bluetooth connected to XXXX routine to enable hotspot
4. in Good lock - create a routine to disable hotspot on wifi enable
5. in tasker - create routine to enable wifi on inverted bluetooth connected to XXXX
I never want true wifi enabled while I am in my vehicle with my andoid head unit.
I always want wifi on when not in my vehicle.
Samsung good lock has the perms to enable/disable hotspot just fine.
Only use of tasker in this is to turn wifi on when disconnected from vehicle bluetooth, which triggers the samsung routine to turn off the hotspot.
Works flawlessly, which I cannot say for Tasker+AutoInput or any other method.
Good Lock + Routines' [WiFi | Tether] automation rocks
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If only there was a routine to turn off wifi tether when the bluetooth connection dropped.... It's so close to perfect.
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I realize it's been a year, but I'm SO glad I finally found this solution. As of now, Good Lock (V 1 .0.00.64) with Routines, current and running on Android 10, seems to undo actions automatically after the routine's trigger condition ends. IOW, when I turn off my car and the ATOTO bluetooth connection ends, the Mobile Hotspot is shut down pretty quickly and automatically (otherwise Samsung's Mobile Hotspot can be set to turn off after 10 minutes of inactivity).
I also setup a simple routine to turn on WiFi when I'm within 20 meters of my house (the only place I use WiFi for Internet access and controlling local WiFi-connected devices). As with the simple Bluetooth-connection-triggering-Hotspot Routine, I notice that WiFi is automatically turned back off when I leave home.
My US model S9 (G960U1) is the first phone I've had in the last decade where I couldn't unlock the bootloader and gain root... Good Lock and Routines almost mitigates that big annoyance (and I have grudgingly found better uses for my time then constantly flashing new Android builds . Big thanks to @brycestejskal for pointing Samsung's Good Lock + Routines.
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Its June 14th, 2019.
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1. Install Samsung Good Lock - It works for me, today, as of posting, on pie just fine.
2. install Tasker
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Only use of tasker in this is to turn wifi on when disconnected from vehicle bluetooth, which triggers the samsung routine to turn off the hotspot.
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FYI, with the current version of Good Lock + Routines on Android 10, the use of Tasker is unnecessary in this scenario. Routines now appears to turn off Hotspot automatically after the Bluetooth connection goes away.
As for turning WiFi back on, I only want WiFi to be on routinely [sic] while at home, so I created a simple Routine to do that (one condition: Near home address; one action: Turn on WiFi).
I had previously installed Tasker for these specific tasks, but it failed without having root. I've now uninstalled Tasker.
Thanks again for your posting, @brycestejskal ! I needed this pointer.
truth. It's been working great for me actually. Getting the Android Head Unit to cooperate is another issue. The only problem I have experienced with Good Lock + Routines is when Android OS gets upgraded, Good Lock + Routines is broken for about a month or so.
And thank you for your message above, as your idea to only turn on Wifi at particular locations might be able to help me in my quest to disable my phone from continually connecting to Xfinity hotspots (I am Xfinity mobile subscriber) wherever I go.
Thank you to everyone on this forum actually.
Thanks @bmeek and @user9082390!
Since I wrote this, I stopped using tasker. The wifi hotpot can be set to disable after 5 minutes, and locations>enableWifi bridges the gap as you mentioned.
Only issue I ever have, is in low service areas, sometimes the hotspot fails to "provision". I then usually can get it to work by manually turning wifi off, then enabling hotspot. A minor downside for something that works flawlessly 99% of the time. GoodLock + Routines with my 10.1" android headset still rocks. Really glad I went with the headunit. I was concerned it would be slow junk. It works great.
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Only issue I ever have, is in low service areas, sometimes the hotspot fails to "provision". I then usually can get it to work by manually turning wifi off, then enabling hotspot. A minor downside for something that works flawlessly 99% of the time.
GoodLock + Routines with my 10.1" android headset still rocks. Really glad I went with the headunit. I was concerned it would be slow junk. It works great.
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Do mean that the mobile hotspot intermittently fails to start; starts but won't give your head unit a connection/IP address; or it let's the head unit connect but then fails do it's job as a NAT router and provide Internet access?
I experienced the latter flaw a few times when I had configured my hotspot to "5GHz preferred" after someone on an xda ATOTO A6 Pro thread reported seriously better performance at 5GHz. I'm back at 2.4GHz and it's working reliably.
So I doubt you have a 10.1" "android headset"... Are you referring to the Atoto A6Y1021PR head unit? If so, I'm envious of your old school volume knob .
I had feared that a swiveling 10 inch display would be a thief magnet in my old Lexus (that also lacks steering wheel controls), so l got the more conventional A6Y2721PRB (IPS display with a row of physical buttons beneath the screen). I wish it had a faster CPU as the UI lags occasionally, and I would prefer a volume knob instead of the buttons, but it's a great head unit overall!
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Do mean that the mobile hotspot intermittently fails to start; starts but won't give your head unit a connection/IP address; or it let's the head unit connect but then fails do it's job as a NAT router and provide Internet access?
I experienced the latter flaw a few times when I had configured my hotspot to "5GHz preferred" after someone on an xda ATOTO A6 Pro thread reported seriously better performance at 5GHz. I'm back at 2.4GHz and it's working reliably.
So I doubt you have a 10.1" "android headset"... Are you referring to the Atoto A6Y1021PR head unit? If so, I'm envious of your old school volume knob .
I had feared that a swiveling 10 inch display would be a thief magnet in my old Lexus (that also lacks steering wheel controls), so l got the more conventional A6Y2721PRB (IPS display with a row of physical buttons beneath the screen). I wish it had a faster CPU as the UI lags occasionally, and I would prefer a volume knob instead of the buttons, but it's a great head unit overall!
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The hotspot fails to start on occasion. It will state that it was unable to provision, and to contact service provider. Toggling hotspot manually thereafter results in same error. If I then turn of the Wifi, and then enable hotspot, it will work fine. Usually doesn't happen.
Lol, yeah not headset, but headunit. Silly typo.
It is an AndroidAutoShop variation of the XTRONS brand. I actually received mine after a Paypal dispute, but I would not recommend ordering from them. I just REALLY wanted that DSP and took the risk. It arrived 2 months late.
Mine has the DSP and IPS, and is 10.1" screen with the PX5 chip, 4GB ram. Even on that, the UI lags occasionally, but I only ever care when I am at a stop. It is fast enough that I do not notice the lags while driving. Using a 7" Pioneer with Android Auto was just as laggy in my experience actually.
The Atoto offerings are neat, but I didn't care about some of the "pros" it offered, vs the "pros" for the Xtrons/AAS unit. Just depends on how you plan to use it. I have zero need for BT5.0 APTX receiving, because I use the headunit as the source running the app. Didn't want the screen jutting up higher due to the knob design. My headunit mounts at the top of the dash, so anything higher is further into field of view. Wanted DSP, didnt care about built-in amp because using RCA to big amps, etc etc.
Really happy with my unit. In a different vehicle, I prolly would go with the atoto.
(not about automating WiFi Tether)
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It is an AndroidAutoShop variation of the XTRONS brand. I actually received mine after a Paypal dispute, but I would not recommend ordering from them. I just REALLY wanted that DSP and took the risk. It arrived 2 months late.
Mine has the DSP and IPS, and is 10.1" screen with the PX5 chip, 4GB ram. Even on that, the UI lags occasionally, but I only ever care when I am at a stop. It is fast enough that I do not notice the lags while driving. Using a 7" Pioneer with Android Auto was just as laggy in my experience actually.
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Really happy with my unit. In a different vehicle, I prolly would go with the atoto.
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Good to hear that you're happy and the unit you received is working well. I hadn't heard about AndroidAutoShop.com, so I googled it and scanned the xda thread about them (and saw your post near the end). Sounds like you may have received the very last unit they sold...
Their current "web site" reads like an ironic yet somehow fitting epitaph (given the reports of customer's inquiries of "where's my stuff?"):
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