since the nook tablet and the droid 3 have the same cpu and gpu shouldn't we be ablt to use it's roms?
There was another thread along the same lines started earlier in regards to using kindle fire roms. They may or may not work. Feel free to risk giving them a try.
*EDIT* I tried a KF ROM from modaco. It flashes without any errors, but I am guessing it will need to be reworked for the partitioning on the NT. On reboot, it just shuts off. Doesn't get past the 'n' screen. I didn't try a D3 ROM after that.
Thereare some developers who are working on CM9. Just be patient and wait a few weeks, the devs will post it on xda as soon as they have a wokring rom.
two weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCroE9Q_NX8&feature=g-all-u&context=G2de3f87FAAAAAAAAJAA
The devs are making some progress
Thanks to fattire
sprime01 said:
since the nook tablet and the droid 3 have the same cpu and gpu shouldn't we be ablt to use it's roms?
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I dont want to be a ****, but I have to state this.
If it was that easy, if it was really that simple to do, wouldnt someone, ANYONE have tried it in the last 3 months?
I mean, I aint trying to beat you down or insult you, but did the idea really seem that far out of the box?
Its been sugested, KF roms, NC roms, as well as others, but there are a lot of BRILLIANT people on this forum, and its been 3 months that they have been at work on this device. We have had people disassemble their NT and solder a connection from the board of the NT into a printer cable so they could basically re-write the chip, but no one thought of using a kindle fire rom....?
Read. Just read and read and read. You will find SO MUCH info on this forum. So much to learn. Im still learning too. (Slowly)
i don't think it's easy to make roms. i'm just trying to think of logical conclusions based on my limited knowledge. I think the developers here are ****ing awesome and it's great how they've gotten as far as they have already. I'm just anxious and optimistic. I can't wait to really set my nook loose
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OK so my G Tablet is on the way and I've been reading and came across a comment on another forum that the ROM's that exist are built on the original stock software and that the most recent update may be causing problems with CWM? I will be getting my G Tablet on Wednesday, should I not do the update if I am going to be flashing a custom ROM? Thanks in advance!
drum747,
I believe everyone should make their own decisions. But if you ask me -- I'd tell you to simply stick with a stock G-Tablet right now.
When you get yours and go to Settings/About you can see the version -- something
like 1.1.xxxx -- probably 3588. If not, just about as soon as you get wifi connected
it will offer you an OTA (on the air) update to 3588. That's the current working version, and compared to the crud we had back last November it really isn't bad software.
It will lack the Market and some other things...you may have to be patient there.
But you can still side-load apps and download apps directly from a number of places.
But we are waiting. Our devs have found that there is software for a possible
Update 3991. The hope is that OTA 3991 will come down in the next few weeks.
If so, at 3588 stock you will be in perfect shape for that update. And then once you
have worked with it a while, you will be able to decide whether to stick with it -- or look at other options.
It seems like everyone who come in here looks at the ROMs available like a "all-you-can-eat" buffet. The immediately start flashing ROMs and moving around software
until something goes wrong and they are stuck. Indigestion!
With a good 3588 tablet, you can read and interact here and find out the biggest and
the best, and you can learn what you need to that when you are ready you can
move up to whatever you want without problems.
Do what you want. Enjoy the G-Tablet. I think it pretty darn good!
Rev
I agree.........
Stick with the most current stock version 3588. The next update officially available from viewsonic should be very soon, but I don't think it will be 3991 as advertised
3558 was different than what it started as, or it would seem based on what I have gathered from reading old threads.
ale
You know, I have a Droid X and have really enjoyed rooting it and trying different ROM's and was really looking forward to the same type of experience on this tablet. What is the advantage of waiting until the next update? Can't I update, do a full backup and go back to that if I want? Once I install a different ROM, I am then stuck at whatever update and no further updates? Is that why you are saying to wait? Are you saying there will be even better ROM's down the road based on the new update that is coming? Or just that the new update coming might have all the things we would like?
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. Just don't forget to make nvflash to factory stock your best friend ;-)
A little of both I guess. Part of the reason I chose this tablet over others is because of the support and customization (and price!) I will try to wait for the next update before I tweak it (if I can!) Heh!! Thanks for the responses guys!! I appreciate the input!
K J Rad said:
The next update might have some cool stuff... might even be as good or better than the custom stuff here... maybe...
Question is... did you buy the tablet to use it for media consumption or tinkering?
Answer that and you'll know what to do. )
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This is without the best quote I could image. Tinkering without first using the tab and getting to realize it's not a giant phone is the first step I think everyone should understand.
And if you do tinker then you should expect it to have opportunities (problems ).
drum747,
Not addressing your abilities or anything about you.
But read all the crash and burn threads on this forum.
IMHO, to many people are trying to do to much too fast and are
messing up their tabs and have to be bailed out.
I'm just saying be cautious, move slowly and carefully and
don't get into trouble.
However, my advice still stands. If you move on to other
ROMS, etc. now, you will cut off access to offline updates.
Then you will have to go back to stock, etc. And
sometimes going back is as much as problem as going up!
It still would be easier to stay stock now and if an update
doesn't come down soon -- you will have read and learned
and be ready to make choices.
IMHO.
Rev
IMHO... if it ain't powering your pacemaker then learn how to nvflash and have fun.
Be part of the revolution or watch it happen... ;-)
Thanks guys! I get what you're saying!
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K J Rad said:
... learn how to nvflash and have fun.
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QFT.
nvflash is not hard to get working. With a properly set up nvflash procedure and all the info on these forums, the gTab is an unbrickable as it gets.
updates
I upgraded to the vegan 7, gingerbread, how do I go back to the original stock to get the latest updates from viewsonic when update arrives?
Second that
I absolutely agree to stick with the stock ROM and play for a while. The 3588 update is very stable and usable when you change to Classic Home. I have been using it till now, side loading apps and enjoying a lot without having to worry about custom ROMS and such.
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
Roxxas049 said:
The people who are saying stay stock for the updates are glossing over the fact that the Vs updates will just make the stock UI suck a little less.
Before I bought my G tab I had never had any experience with tablets or smart phones or even android for that matter. I have flashed 4 or 5 roms onto my tablet without incident, no boot loops, no dead tab, no anything that anyone would consider a bad experience. I'm using Vegan 5.1.1 for the record, for the third time.
Read a few of the reflash to stock with nvflash threads to prepare yourself in case something does go wrong, but there is no reason to stay stock on this tablet theres to much dev goodness and too much customizationability ( is that even a word?) not to try different things.
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Yeah I think it all boils down to what the individual wants and is willing to risk..this forum makes it easy and there are plenty of options to try just always prepare for the unexpected and dealing with the experimentals expect anything to happen!!
Who am I kidding?! There is no way I will be able to wait for the next update. I already have a ton of files set up to load on my G tablet. I will be Modding within hours of my full charge! Guess its just my nature! Thanks guys!
Butch, thanks I will be reading everything to make sure I do it right Thanks for the advice everyone!
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Closing Word...
Everyone that has contributed to this thread--
I have tried to voice the side of conservatism and restraint and
good judgement in this thread. My intention was not to hurt any
feeliings or pick on anyone or rain on anyone's parade.
But if you read what's going on in these forums, there are a lot
of folks having problems. A lot of them are in over their heads and
some have been careless and others made honest mistakes.
I know for my part, I have been working hard to try to help folks
find the tools and make the decisions to get back on track. I'm sure
I have made mistakes and my opinions are mine!
But I speak for myself in saying that even though I am semi-retired
and have more time than most -- I can't keep up this pace. And I've
heard others of the helpers say the same thing.
I also call your attention to the "TwoTapsX" thread and the fact that
the moderators are aware of the problems people are having. Roebeet
has put together a splendid ROM that many think will be the next
generation of G-Tablet software. But because of the complexity of the
mods folks already have had in the tablets, and because of the human
factors listed above -- a lot of folks have messed up their tablets.
In My Humble Opinion: Somebody has got to say that in spite of all the
"opportunities" for mods in these forums -- folks have got to start
exercising more restraint, more good judgement, more common sense in
what they do.
The devs and the folks who are helpers here can't be expected to carry the
load of keeping everyone up and running with the current problem rates. I
sometimes don't agree with the moderators, but this time I see their point.
We users have a good thing here, but if it keeps being abused......
********
Having said that, I am done here. I wish you well.
Rev
/EOT
Just an update. Within an hour of booting up I had installed CWM and Vegan. It was an easy process and now I love my g tablet!
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Welcome! Enjoy the koolaid... ;-)
Nice responce
Team,
has anyone tried this and had it work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-962023.html
It talks about Ubu 10.1 with lxfe running on a phone, but several outside sourses have said that would make it usable by any android device
that sounds shaky, but when i followed the instructions, i didnt et ANY errors.
of course it wouldnt boot, at least waiting 10 minutes and i still saw the boot messages, so i figured that there IS hope, i just know i dont knoe enough to poke around myself.
anyone with suggestions, im all ears
help please
thanks
mindwave,
There have been people here working with ubuntu up through the latest Narwhal.
A couple of quick searches should turn up the threads.
Rev
Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981688
then follow this:
http://www.androidfanatic.com/community-forums.html? func=view&catid=9&id=16
I have this setup and running great on my gtab running vegan ginger.
butch,
i know there have been folks here working on them, but this one has 2 attractive features.
1) it runs soley from the SD card. I know some folks flash daily, but personally i really only want to re flash my tablet for a good reason.
2) its SIMPLE, Im in the midst of perforiming a MAJOR systems upgrade at my office PLUS raising a 5yo AND publishing 5 books, so for me, simple is awesome.
but i agree i think there are some folks here that have done some AMAZING work and I appreciate them all. matter of act I sa VS was selling GTABS for $279 yesterday on Amazon, and If i hadnt JUST biought the wife a NC I would have certainly ordered another one JUST to play with
farmer bobathan said:
Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981688
then follow this:
http://www.androidfanatic.com/community-forums.html? func=view&catid=9&id=16
I have this setup and running great on my gtab running vegan ginger.
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What is that second link supposed to go to? It looks empty to me.
I use ubuntu as my daily driver, and think it'd be awesome to try on my gTab. I followed one of the guides that used the VNC method. It was neat, but also annoying and wasteful because it was running inside Android. So, I'm really interested in getting this other method working.
Let me start by saying i do not live on xda and do not keep up with every development. I had been happily using Vegan 5.1 and then Vegan-Gingerbread until this week when my wifi crapped out on me.
I went with the new Flashback-Honeycomb and REALLY like it but i noticed very few people posting about it, while the other honeycomb rom pages have hundreds of posts (mostly people complaing that something doesnt work or asking why they cant get it working ((when they didnt follow the directions usually))..
Anyway,...without taking 40 hours of my time and reading nearly 1,000 pages of "how come i am boot looped?", I wanted to make a post here and ask the few "in the know" what the REAL skinny is on the various alpha Honeycombs available. What features really work on each (and what doesn't), which ones are the best/fastest/have the most promise.
....and in a cogent, short, logical, concise thread..without thousands of "but why can't i...." posts mixed in.
Thanks!
Allen
None, because it's still in alpha, and I prefer a Rom that doesn't require me to make posts asking "why can't I..."
Seriously though, all of them are derivitives of "bottle of smoke," and you didn't even list that as an option. It's in version 6.0, now.
TJEvans said:
None, because it's still in alpha, and I prefer a Rom that doesn't require me to make posts asking "why can't I..."
Seriously though, all of them are derivitives of "bottle of smoke," and you didn't even list that as an option. It's in version 6.0, now.
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While some of that is taken as a good point i have to respond.
Even in alpha form, i already like Honeycomb-Flashback better than vegan 5.1 or Vegan-Gingerbread. It looks better, is more intuitive for a tablet format and flows fine.
....and
I have not had a single custom ROM yet that didnt have SOME kind of compromise/one thing that didnt work/problem. Not to mention what you give up using any of the versions of this thing STOCK.
Now that we cleared that up. Back on topic please!
Honestly, I think they are all variations on the same theme right now. And I mean the Adam ROM as the source, not BoS.
I do like what I've seen in Flashback, not to soft-sell it. I've pulled back for the summer (I've mentioned this before - not selling my GTAB, just want to enjoy / get annoyed by my kids being off). With the last BoS alpha, I was looking at Flashback and I liked what the tlbardelljr was doing, ie. the updates to the framework.
But in general, I like what all the modders / devs are doing. I know that some people are a bit overwhelmed by all the different mods, but better too many than too little!
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Honestly, I think they are all variations on the same theme right now. And I mean the Adam ROM as the source, not BoS.
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I completely understand that BOS was a derivitive of other Adam roms, but, the roms listed are all direct modifications of BOS.
You took the Adam roms and ported them to the G-Tablet, then others have tweaked YOUR rom in order to create their own monster. I was just making the point that all of the roms listed are derived from BOS, yet BOS wasn't even listed as an option.
Flashback
I originally started with BoS 5.2 and loved it. Was holding off on updating to 6.0 hoping additional updates would be made available after the 6/27 Notion Ink updates.
Then last night I saw that Flashback has added limited flash support so I decided to jump over and try that. So far, so good though I haven't had much of a chance to play with it yet. It does seem to boot quite a bit slower than BoS but I appreciate what flash capability it has so I will probably test it out some more tonight. If BoS had flash I would be going with that but we shall see...
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Even in alpha form, i already like Honeycomb-Flashback better than vegan 5.1 or Vegan-Gingerbread. It looks better, is more intuitive for a tablet format and flows fine.
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I think all respomses to the OP must be on topic. You can change the look by (for example) using VTL launcher.
Has anyone tried Netflix with Flashback?
If so, and it works fine (maybe with the "manufacturer=HTC" fix), then soon my answer to the poll shall be Flashback
I really run the risk of coming off as a whiny little leach right now but really I am just curious...
I obviously have no dev skills at all, so I rely on the capable members of XDA and other such sites. Of my first two Android devices (Droid Incredible and Galaxy Nexus) dev support has been insane. New ROMs daily and mods that are out of this world.
I guess what I really want to know is why are we finding very few ROMs for the TP?
A) VERY few devs bought this device
B) The TP has a totally new framework (Quad-core, ICS on a Tablet) that is causing a lot of issues and ROMs will begin to flow soon.
C) Both
D) Neither
P.S. PLEASE don't flame me, I am really just curious, not trying to cause any arguments.
P.P.S Lovin me some Virtuous
Prime has only been able to run custom ROMs for around 2 to 3 weeks now(too lazy to actually calculate). I would say what we have considering this is actually good. Modding is in its extreme infancy for the prime right now and some very awesome things will be done in time.
Thanks,
That is pretty much what I was hoping to hear. As long as I am not stuck with a device with little to no dev support I am happy. I will be patient
I think 5 different rom in the Dev section doesn't count as very little...
As soon as other Tegra 3 tabs are released, we'll probably see a jump in the number of ROMs.
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rand4ll said:
Prime has only been able to run custom ROMs for around 2 to 3 weeks now(too lazy to actually calculate). I would say what we have considering this is actually good. Modding is in its extreme infancy for the prime right now and some very awesome things will be done in time.
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This is kinda what I gathered. I've only had my TP for a couple of weeks. I was surprised to see such little development (I'm spoiled as I have a GNex) when I came to the forums; however, as I began reading threads, I came to see that this tablet had just recently came unlocked. I agree that its just a matter of time before we'll see more development.
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Dont worry, there will be roms
Can't wait for a sense port.
In time boss, we need gnufabio, sense? Really MN
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Theres alot of other roms are being developed as we speak you know.
This is a device I'd actually consider making a custom ROM for, but things being as they are, I am waiting to see what becomes of the WiFi situation here, and considering selling my Prime for either an Infinity or an ultrabook.
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Can't wait for a sense port.
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Can you name a non HTC device that has ever gotten a true port of sense on it? And by true port is mean sense actually up and working not just a set of themes.
bluewr said:
I think 5 different rom in the Dev section doesn't count as very little...
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Yeah, but three of them are just compiled source code that aren't really that functional and have no support from the person who posted them.
Mine is in testing phase, only really one more bug to work out before a release ;-)
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I just wish we had someone from the tf101 days come jump over to make a rom, I really love my prime but miss all the awesome stuff that was on my old tf101. Ya ya I know it will come but its hard to be patient
rand4ll said:
Prime has only been able to run custom ROMs for around 2 to 3 weeks now(too lazy to actually calculate). I would say what we have considering this is actually good. Modding is in its extreme infancy for the prime right now and some very awesome things will be done in time.
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This^
Having only had its bootloader unlocked for a short period of time, the prime is still in early stages of development. The only ROMs that are released right out of the gate are pretty basic (Debloated, deodexed, etc.). The prime is a newcomer to tablets with its Tegra 3 quad-core processor and for devs to fully utilize its capabilities, they need time to get familiar with it. I have been following the development thread since its release, and i'd say its made a lot of progress since then
I'm looking forward to more ROMs too, really would like to see more start springing up, it's a little bare right now. Here's to hoping that more and more start springing up otherwise that was a waste of a warranty
does anyone know what happend to the cm9 nightys going out for the prime. seems like the last one was on the 1st of march and nothing since...
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You guys got the wrong section
There are also issues with APKTool, so theming for stock roms has been a hassle since well you can't really do much.. As soon as systemui.apk is able to be recompiled, i'll consider porting my theme for AOKP over to stock roms.
I have a Nook Tablet 8gig that I rooted about 10 months ago with no problems. I have had no complaints so I have not mucked around with it, but now I am wondering about updating a bit. The issue is that I want to be able to use an external keryboard dock with my NT, and I read that it was only possible with CM7 (not sure if that means CM7 and above). I rooted the NT using the great instructions and files recommended in the developers thread, but to be honest I have no idea what my nook is rooted with- it works well so I have not messed with it.
I am essentially looking for instructions on how to re-root my NT after I re-set it to factory, or how to alter my current root to run CM7. My screen is half wonked, and I may take it back since I got the extended warrenty, especially if I have to re-root it for this anyway.
Also...what is CM7? Is that an Android version?
As a side note: Can anyone confirm that you can use an external keyboard with CM7 or above?
What do you want to do first?...do you want to return to stock so that you can return your nt...or do you want to flash cm7? (cm7 is a ROM by the way a version of Android os)
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systems6 said:
What do you want to do first?...do you want to return to stock so that you can return your nt...or do you want to flash cm7? (cm7 is a ROM by the way a version of Android os)
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Ultimately what I want to do is run an external keyboard, and the information I have is that they will run on CM7. I will probably (assuming my warranty will cover this) be getting this one fixed to replaced soon, so I will need to re-root when I get it back, but for now I don't see the need to re-root if I don't have to.
What does it mean to "flash" cm7?
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What does it mean to "flash" cm7?
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If your nook is broken already, why bother doing anything to it? Just get it fixed then address the things you want to address. And while you are waiting for the replacement see the next line.
After reading above quote along with your original post you honestly need to read...A LOT. You need to learn at least the basic lingo before you even make an attempt to do anything. Failure to have even an iota of understanding will only lead to failure, complaints, and frustration. Spend a few hours going through the posts on here. There are several new user guides. Read them. Re-Read them. Read them again. Learn to understand what people are talking about when someone says something like "Flash x, y, or z".
As for the keyboard question, I am fairly certain that it doesn't work on ANY rom. They are working on getting the OTG portion of the kernel ironed out. While it is called a tablet it is a glorified E-Reader. The devs have done an awesome job making the Nooks into what they are today (for those of us that have modified them),
SlowCobra96 said:
After reading above quote along with your original post you honestly need to read...A LOT. You need to learn at least the basic lingo before you even make an attempt to do anything. Failure to have even an iota of understanding will only lead to failure, complaints, and frustration. Spend a few hours going through the posts on here. There are several new user guides. Read them. Re-Read them. Read them again. Learn to understand what people are talking about when someone says something like "Flash x, y, or z"
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Any good links to layman information sites or tutorials? I was able to Root it easily (it is pretty simple), but I will admit that some of the android specific terminology does go over my head.
As for the keyboard question, I am fairly certain that it doesn't work on ANY rom. They are working on getting the OTG portion of the kernel ironed out. While it is called a tablet it is a glorified E-Reader. The devs have done an awesome job making the Nooks into what they are today (for those of us that have modified them),
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I have read several places where cm7 has allowed keyboard use for users. They are not expensive, and I would really like to try.
As for getting it fixed...well I love my nook and use it every day, so I have been loathe to take it in. I suppose that is silly.
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Any good links to layman information sites or tutorials? I was able to Root it easily (it is pretty simple), but I will admit that some of the android specific terminology does go over my head.
I have read several places where cm7 has allowed keyboard use for users. They are not expensive, and I would really like to try.
As for getting it fixed...well I love my nook and use it every day, so I have been loathe to take it in. I suppose that is silly.
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You will love it more when it works completely and isn't "wonky". You will survive without it for a little bit. Trust me you won't die. Also because CM7 allows for a keyboard doesn't mean every device running CM7 will. Search the forums for more information. I know that some of the developers have been working on it for CM10 but I don't recall seeing any posts saying that they have it working definitively.
As for specific sites or tutorials. Just visit the various android boards and look for the Noob guides. Search google for more details on subjects you want to know about.
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You will love it more when it works completely and isn't "wonky". You will survive without it for a little bit. Trust me you won't die. Also because CM7 allows for a keyboard doesn't mean every device running CM7 will. Search the forums for more information. I know that some of the developers have been working on it for CM10 but I don't recall seeing any posts saying that they have it working definitively.
As for specific sites or tutorials. Just visit the various android boards and look for the Noob guides. Search google for more details on subjects you want to know about.
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Thank, I just took it back to Best Buy and they replaced it with an HD. I thought about an HD+, but I use my nook for reading more than anything (lots of comics, some novels), and the 9" is much less comfortable for that. Now I need to root this bad boy, and I don't have to monkey around with roms other than rooting because the HD already has support for an external keyboard.
This can be closed, as far as I am concerned. Thanks.