[Q] SD Card Apps - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all,
I've been using the ICS passion ROMs and they are great except a snag i hit every time i update.
All of my apps that i moved to SD card disappear. Secure and adsecure in mnt folder get wiped out and that is where the device stores the apps when you hit Move to SD. I thought they would move to .Androidsecure on the sdcard folder but they don't. Any clarification is greatly appreciated
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Please help?
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Mine did that too I had them backed up on titanium backup luckily so its good for me
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Actually I did 2 things:
1. I backed up in Titanium but I only have a free version so its annoying as hell waiting for 97 apps to install and hit Install on each one.
2. I copied my assecure and secure folders to my external - this is what I used for the last 2 times. I copied those back and all apps were fine. I lost my app data though which Titanium does back up thank God.
So, I've noticed this not only with the ROM updates but also with the Kernel update.
I wonder if its the Recovery doing it???

Can someone confirm you're not having this issue so I can start diving deeper into the root cause:
1. Go to your installed apps.
2. Click on a few apps and hit move to SD
3. Flash ROM
4. The shortcut on the home scree is there and app shows in the installed apps but it has no icon and when trying to execute informs me App not installed.
5. Have to reinstall or restore.
Observations:
/sdcard/.adroid_secure - is empty
/mnt/secure and /mnt/asec - has all "SD card" apps but get wiped out during flash. (no clean options selected not even Dalvik).

Do me a favor. In terminal type
Su [enter]
Busybox df -h [enter]
And post what it says. Need one from fresh flash with nothing moved over, move some apps to SD and then when they aren't installed anymore but still showing in manage apps that they are on SD. So 3 in total.

Sorry for the delayed reply, was on a business trip.
Please clarify the clean install a bit - Do you want me to do a full factory reset?
I'm a bit reluctant to do that since v12 doesn't require any wipes but I'd be glad to do it if you can tell me what you're looking for.
In the meantime here is current dump v11 build 5.
a/local/bin:$PATH <
[email protected]:/ $ su
[email protected]:/ # busybox df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 168.9M 32.0K 168.9M 0% /dev
tmpfs 168.9M 0 168.9M 0% /mnt/asec
tmpfs 168.9M 0 168.9M 0% /mnt/obb
/dev/block/mtdblock2 250.0M 204.4M 45.6M 82% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock3 17.5M 2.3M 15.2M 13% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock5 16.0M 14.3M 1.7M 89% /radio
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1.8G 264.2M 1.6G 14% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock6 172.0M 64.5M 107.5M 37% /datadata
/dev/block/mtdblock4 12.5M 6.6M 5.9M 53% /efs
/dev/block/vold/179:9
1.8G 1.6G 199.0M 89% /mnt/emmc
/dev/block/vold/179:1
12.8G 4.4G 8.4G 34% /mnt/sdcard
/dev/block/vold/179:1
12.8G 4.4G 8.4G 34% /mnt/secure/asec
/dev/block/dm-0 2.0M 240.0K 1.8M 11% /mnt/asec/com.google.android.chess-2
/dev/block/dm-1 26.4M 22.0M 4.3M 84% /mnt/asec/com.southwindsgames.am2m-1
/dev/block/dm-2 20.3M 18.6M 1.6M 92% /mnt/asec/de.zuuka.kungfupandaholiday-1
/dev/block/dm-3 3.1M 1.8M 1.3M 58% /mnt/asec/com.sgg.df-1
/dev/block/dm-4 17.2M 15.6M 1.7M 90% /mnt/asec/com.artofbytes.notld.hd-1
/dev/block/dm-5 13.2M 11.5M 1.7M 87% /mnt/asec/com.sketchbook-1
/dev/block/dm-6 8.1M 6.5M 1.6M 80% /mnt/asec/game.destiniaeng-1
/dev/block/dm-7 4.1M 2.4M 1.7M 59% /mnt/asec/com.tripit.amazon.paid-2
/dev/block/dm-8 51.7M 49.4M 2.3M 95% /mnt/asec/pl.idreams.jellydefense-2
/dev/block/dm-9 4.1M 3.0M 1.1M 73% /mnt/asec/je.fit-1
/dev/block/dm-10 7.1M 5.5M 1.6M 78% /mnt/asec/com.google.android.apps.shopper-1
/dev/block/dm-11 3.1M 1.2M 1.8M 39% /mnt/asec/com.aldiko.android.oreilly.javapocketguide-1
/dev/block/dm-12 3.1M 1.7M 1.4M 54% /mnt/asec/com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftMMHM-1
/dev/block/dm-13 4.1M 2.5M 1.6M 62% /mnt/asec/com.google.android.apps.docs-1
/dev/block/dm-14 11.2M 10.0M 1.2M 90% /mnt/asec/kemco.wws.eog.hd.amazon-1
/dev/block/dm-15 11.2M 9.2M 2.0M 82% /mnt/asec/com.qo.android.am3-1
/dev/block/dm-16 2.0M 700.0K 1.4M 34% /mnt/asec/ma.android.fts-1
/dev/block/dm-17 5.1M 3.3M 1.8M 65% /mnt/asec/com.google.android.apps.translate-1
/dev/block/dm-18 13.2M 11.5M 1.7M 87% /mnt/asec/com.beansprites.cookies-1
/dev/block/dm-19 51.7M 49.3M 2.4M 95% /mnt/asec/com.loudcrow.acharliebrownchristmas-2
/dev/block/dm-20 2.0M 292.0K 1.8M 14% /mnt/asec/com.google.android.street-1
/dev/block/dm-21 15.2M 12.6M 2.6M 83% /mnt/asec/com.clapfootgames.tankhero-1
/dev/block/dm-22 8.1M 6.9M 1.2M 85% /mnt/asec/com.androidtrainer.survive-1
/dev/block/dm-23 2.0M 548.0K 1.5M 26% /mnt/asec/com.agilus.meatcookingguide-1
/dev/block/dm-24 3.1M 1.1M 1.9M 37% /mnt/asec/com.quoord.tapatalkxda.activity-1
/dev/block/dm-25 3.1M 1.2M 1.9M 39% /mnt/asec/com.epicpixel.missiledefender-2
/dev/block/dm-26 5.1M 3.6M 1.5M 71% /mnt/asec/com.amazon.venezia-1
/dev/block/dm-27 7.1M 5.4M 1.7M 76% /mnt/asec/com.dataviz.docstogo-1
/dev/block/dm-28 3.1M 1.9M 1.2M 61% /mnt/asec/com.sparkpeople.app-1
/dev/block/dm-29 20.3M 19.0M 1.3M 94% /mnt/asec/com.intsig.BCRLite-2
/dev/block/dm-30 15.2M 13.6M 1.6M 90% /mnt/asec/com.bfs.ninjump-1
/dev/block/dm-31 18.3M 16.4M 1.8M 90% /mnt/asec/com.RefinedGames.CrossCourtTennis-1
/dev/block/dm-33 39.5M 32.2M 7.3M 81% /mnt/asec/com.disney.WMW-1
/dev/block/dm-34 3.1M 1.9M 1.2M 62% /mnt/asec/com.ebay.redlaser-1
/dev/block/dm-35 20.3M 16.7M 3.6M 82% /mnt/asec/com.rovio.angrybirds-1
/dev/block/dm-36 41.6M 39.2M 2.3M 94% /mnt/asec/com.glu.modwarsniper-1
/dev/block/dm-37 21.3M 19.1M 2.2M 90% /mnt/asec/com.oceanhouse_media.bookrudolph_app-1
/dev/block/dm-38 19.3M 18.0M 1.3M 93% /mnt/asec/com.herocraft.game.majesty-2
/dev/block/dm-39 9.1M 7.6M 1.5M 83% /mnt/asec/com.japanactivator.android.jasensei-2
/dev/block/dm-40 4.1M 3.0M 1.1M 74% /mnt/asec/org.zwanoo.android.speedtest-1
/dev/block/dm-41 2.0M 828.0K 1.2M 40% /mnt/asec/com.solnus.android.Hiragana-1
/dev/block/dm-42 13.2M 11.1M 2.1M 84% /mnt/asec/com.gamevil.zenonia3.global-1
/dev/block/dm-43 12.2M 10.0M 2.1M 83% /mnt/asec/com.bithack.apparatus-1
/dev/block/dm-44 14.2M 12.5M 1.7M 88% /mnt/asec/com.skype.raider-1
/dev/block/dm-45 12.2M 10.3M 1.8M 85% /mnt/asec/com.berad.LameCastle-1
/dev/block/dm-46 11.2M 9.5M 1.6M 85% /mnt/asec/com.arent.myfirstpuzzles-1
/dev/block/dm-47 2.0M 188.0K 1.9M 9% /mnt/asec/LearningLayout.pack-1
/dev/block/dm-48 12.2M 10.1M 2.1M 83% /mnt/asec/com.tricksterviz.fishpop-2
/dev/block/dm-49 6.1M 4.1M 2.0M 67% /mnt/asec/com.droidhen.fruit-1
/dev/block/dm-50 2.0M 144.0K 1.9M 7% /mnt/asec/com.dataviz.docstogoapp-1
/dev/block/dm-51 2.0M 308.0K 1.7M 15% /mnt/asec/uk.co.nickfines.RealCalc-1
/dev/block/dm-52 3.1M 1.3M 1.8M 42% /mnt/asec/com.socialnmobile.hd.flashlight-1
/dev/block/dm-53 8.1M 6.6M 1.6M 81% /mnt/asec/com.glu.android.bonsai_adfree-1
/dev/block/dm-54 23.3M 18.0M 5.3M 77% /mnt/asec/com.bravogamestudios.touchracingnitro-1
/dev/block/dm-55 2.0M 728.0K 1.3M 35% /mnt/asec/com.opentable-1
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Forgot to mention, more and more users are calling this issue out.

Ok that is fine. Since the above is from v11 and all your apps are are already on App2sd
(.androidsecure), show me what it says once you update to v12.
In theory, they should not be on your app2sd anymore. This is what I want to see with the same code I gave you above. I have a theory and possibly a fix but need to see the output first.
ps: I have see the other thread/questions and am working on it. Pretty sure the symbolic links are being broken but just need to figures out where. Believe it or not the where is more important than the why.

Its odd that you say they are in .androidsecure. If I look in that folder right now with all those apps on SD its empty.
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Is it possible that mnt/secure and mnt/sec are not pointing to the SD
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That is where I am leaning. Think the link is getting broken somehow.

any updates on this?

ElectricMenace said:
Its odd that you say they are in .androidsecure. If I look in that folder right now with all those apps on SD its empty.
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No updates yet.
Still need to see more info once you update to a new version. Don't need to to a full wipe, just need to show the before (which you already posted) and the after where they are no longer there.
Referring to the post above. Are you looking at this folder on your phone through a file explorer or on a PC?

Actually both and you are right pc shows apps and es file explorer doesn't. I'm going to update to 12 tonight
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docertabum said:
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========================
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su (su)
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tmpfs 2.7G 1.6M 2.7G 1% /dev
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tmpfs 2.7G 0 2.7G 0% /apex
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