Hey,
Has anyone worked out any decent solution for sharing a transformer prime with other people? I.e., I want to be able to have multi user functionality, and be able to log in with my account and have access to all my data, and then allow my girlfriend to log into her account and then have access to her data.
Is there any solution in terms of apps or custom mods to accomplish this?
I believe that Titanium Backup has some facilities for that but in general, Android has yet to mature very well for it. Some apps have a bit of support for multiple accounts, mostly Google apps.
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Yeah I see that but it's not an ideal solution - even the google apps don't work well as all notifications will come through and I have to manually change which user is logged in for every app (in some, like google+, I then have to specify every time whether to sync contacts, etc)
Titanium backup is the right idea, you could theoretically script it so you "log in" as one user and it will automatically backup every app and then restore the other user's backup. A cumbersome and slow way of doing it...
There's no home grown solution (say by creating symbolic links for every app data directory which can be swapped out)? If not, maybe it's time to give android development a go...
For that idea if you try it, you should be able to kill any running associated running processes using ps/kill, before twiddling symlinks,
E..g kill dropbox, swap links, ....
What is really needed is evolution of apps and OS lol
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Idk if you're subscripted to this thread or not, but I saw this over lunch and thought of this thread. You might want to play with it: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-android-profiles-on-a-single-rooted-device/
Yes, try SwitchMe just new in the Market. Requires root but does exactly what you want.
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Sounds like you need to buy another TP.
Might want to look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475884
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Is anybody else having problems with the functionality of sideloaded apps on a non-rooted NT?
I was able to sideload the HomeWork app from the google marketplace (install to phone, titanium backup, uncompress the .apk, push to NT and install). It is a wonderful and simple app my son uses to keep track of his homework (because he won't use a paper planner).
On the surface the app seems to work, but anytime I try to edit the school schedule or add homework assignments the tablet freezes for a few seconds. Once control returns, the app functions normally without the changes having been committed.
This almost feels like a permissions issue where the app doesn't have permissions to save the changes other than the fact that I can import the save file I brought over from his Cruz Reader without problems. This leads me to believe the problem is something else, but I'm not sure what.
Is anybody else encountering similar issues with sideloaded apps? Is there a fix or something I should try? If this has been addressed already, I haven't found it.
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Is anybody else having problems with the functionality of sideloaded apps on a non-rooted NT?
I was able to sideload the HomeWork app from the google marketplace (install to phone, titanium backup, uncompress the .apk, push to NT and install). It is a wonderful and simple app my son uses to keep track of his homework (because he won't use a paper planner).
On the surface the app seems to work, but anytime I try to edit the school schedule or add homework assignments the tablet freezes for a few seconds. Once control returns, the app functions normally without the changes having been committed.
This almost feels like a permissions issue where the app doesn't have permissions to save the changes other than the fact that I can import the save file I brought over from his Cruz Reader without problems. This leads me to believe the problem is something else, but I'm not sure what.
Is anybody else encountering similar issues with sideloaded apps? Is there a fix or something I should try? If this has been addressed already, I haven't found it.
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If the app needs root access then it won't work. Apps that require root access can sometimes install but will not operate properly. Does the info on the app on the Market mention this? Changing permissions , I seem to recall, is an function requiring superuser. Could be wrong on that though.
It shouldn't require root. I was hoping to avoid rooting the NT (it's primarily for a 12 year old) , but I might need to.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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It shouldn't require root. I was hoping to avoid rooting the NT (it's primarily for a 12 year old) , but I might need to.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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My pleasure. You might look around for an app that performs in a similar manner. Most tasks have several options when it comes to apps.
Its seems since the last ota ,every time i check my apps tab i see Google maps running, i close it out an 5 mins later it's there again , i have no other mapping software installed and only ran it once when i first got the tablet to see how my gps was working, i checked to see if some other app is calling it up, but for the life of me i couldn't see any of my installed apps needing it , i run a fairly lean system with maybe 12 apps installed beyond stock . Most of these being rss readers comic readers and a few various off line games and work tools , I'm not around wifi often so I'm a big fan of apps that store the data as opposed to just refreshing links. No Facebook apps or location check in style apps either, maybe my browser settings for searching local, but i would think that uses wifi info to establish that....
I've been using android since its inception but am a first time tablet owner barring a returned ipad 1 when those launched and a complete moron when compared to the level of knowledge displayed on this forum, so any ideas would be appreciated.
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Read the thread title, any idea why constantly run? thnx
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My guess is it has to do with location tracking, like if you gave google permission to use your location for whatever. I couldn't tell you how to disable it as it was an option that came up when first setting up the device...it also came up once when I signed into my google account on the google.com home page in the browser.
This is simply me guessing but I would try disabling anything that tracks your location and see if that helps. Maps is always running on my phone as well.
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Its seems since the last ota ,every time i check my apps tab i see Google maps running, i close it out an 5 mins later it's there again , i have no other mapping software installed and only ran it once when i first got the tablet to see how my gps was working, i checked to see if some other app is calling it up, but for the life of me i couldn't see any of my installed apps needing it , i run a fairly lean system with maybe 12 apps installed beyond stock . Most of these being rss readers comic readers and a few various off line games and work tools , I'm not around wifi often so I'm a big fan of apps that store the data as opposed to just refreshing links. No Facebook apps or location check in style apps either, maybe my browser settings for searching local, but i would think that uses wifi info to establish that....
I've been using android since its inception but am a first time tablet owner barring a returned ipad 1 when those launched and a complete moron when compared to the level of knowledge displayed on this forum, so any ideas would be appreciated.
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Read the thread title, any idea why constantly run? thnx
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Google tracks location using the maps app on all devices with the Android market. The use it for delivering relevant ads and also for their traffic data. Remember, if something is free then you are the product.
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Don't keep trying to close it. It will keep coming back automatically and you actually making the prime work a lil but harder by it having to relaunch it everytime. That will lead to faster battery drain. Just try cutting off Google locations in setting and see if that remedies it. Of not there's nothing you can do. If you try to disable it or get rid of it. It might cause issues with other apps.
I have my Samsung Galaxy Nexus and my Asus Transformer Prime, and I generally have the same games on both, and I just wondered if there was a method / app to sync saved data / progress between my devices so I could pick up one one device where I left off on the other?
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Stewart
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Titanium Backup and Dropbox sync should do the trick
I’ve used Titanium Backup for exactly this over a couple of device changes, most recently to my shiny new Transformer Prime. It’s worked perfectly for all games I play except Paradise Island, the game data restored successfully and I can do almost everything except use any of the network features. Although I was registered it now tells me I am not but will not let me sign up again because it has restored my existing profile….. So it half thinks I’m registered… Oh well, as I said it has worked a treat for everything else.
OK maybe I am being really stupid, but I can't seem to figure out how to upload my backups to Dropbox?
Also, is there a way to do this auto-magically whenever I play something?
Can this be used without Root? I have Titanium Backup Pro on my phone (fully rooted etc) can I still copy my game saves onto my stock unrooted prime? Mainly Deadspace, I just completed it and want to play again on newgame+
I saw on Android Police that the app "DataSync" came out I think last week. It requires root and busybox.
AP: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...our-app-data-in-sync-across-multiple-devices/
Market: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quintstoffers.DataSync
I haven't used it but it looks easier to use then TB.
TehH4rRy said:
Can this be used without Root? I have Titanium Backup Pro on my phone (fully rooted etc) can I still copy my game saves onto my stock unrooted prime? Mainly Deadspace, I just completed it and want to play again on newgame+
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No Titanium Backup won't work unless you root your Prime too. I don't know about dropbox, I've never used it because TB does all I need to do.
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I saw on Android Police that the app "DataSync" came out I think last week. It requires root and busybox.
AP: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...our-app-data-in-sync-across-multiple-devices/
Market: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quintstoffers.DataSync
I haven't used it but it looks easier to use then TB.
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Yeah that works great, its not automatic, but seems to work quite well!!
For some games you can transfer the save file saved on your sd card, so root won't be necessary. However it will be annoying to do everytime you want to play between twwo devices.
SaveShare is another app very similar to DataSync that doesn't require root (though the syncing of some games' files do require root). I'm curious to hear people's impressions who have used both.
Typically, the only game which I want to sync across devices (Where's My Water?) needs root - but none of my devices are rooted
To throw another option into the mix, I've recently developed the app 'GameSync' for this purpose. It also requires root and is more focused on the game side of things, unlike DataSync. As a result, it offers 'automatic synchronization' where possible, keeping the tablet and phone in sync without interaction.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appliedanalog.gamesync
Just rooted my device.
Was wondering how safe is it to delete apps that I do not use, bloatware from ASUS.
Can I (uninstall) delete these safely (using Titanium backup):
1. Amazon Kindle
2. App Backup
3. App Locker
4. File Manager
5. Glowball
6. My Cloud
7. My Library
8. My Net
9. Polaris Office
10. Net Reader
11. SuperNote
12. Webstorage
Thanks for reading
Yes its safe to delete those apps but I would make sure you have recovery and back up your full stock rom first in fact most of the custom roms have all those apps removed.
guntherfurlong said:
Just rooted my device.
Was wondering how safe is it to delete apps that I do not use, bloatware from ASUS.
Can I (uninstall) delete these safely (using Titanium backup):
1. Amazon Kindle
2. App Backup
3. App Locker
4. File Manager
5. Glowball
6. My Cloud
7. My Library
8. My Net
9. Polaris Office
10. Net Reader
11. SuperNote
12. Webstorage
Thanks for reading
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I would strongly consider keeping some of those apps.
For instance Polaris Office is a really good office suite for Android. My Cloud gives you a full copy of Splashtop Remote Desktop which is one of the easiest remote desktop apps currently available on Android. Both of these are very useful apps which might come in handy someday. Unless you are running out of space on your Prime I would leave them alone.
What is your point ?
Those apps are not 'system' apps in the real sense (they are system only because they are part of the ROM and installed in /system/app) you can remove them like you would remove any user app.
Keep the backup files in Titanium, as some of those apps can't be found easily elsewhere.
Many android users would like to have Polaris I agree. Same for My Cloud.
I do have Office Suit Pro already.... that's why I am thinking off getting rid of Polaris..
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When you decide to unlock and install a custom Rom, you're really going to like wookies rom with aroma installer which let's you install without these apps.
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CharliesTheMan said:
When you decide to unlock and install a custom Rom, you're really going to like wookies rom with aroma installer which let's you install without these apps.
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Or if you are rooted (which I assume he is since we are having this conversation) just get titanium backup and freeze the apps you don't want. No that does not save space on the device, but deleting them to save space is a waste of time. With all of the "bloat ware" in place, my 32GB prime still has over 25 GB free even after installing all the other apps I use including Chrome and it's cache. So space is not really an issue. Freezing them will keep them from actually running which is my real goal.
Also, if you do start tinkering with system apps, the ability to freeze rather than delete is critical. I found this out while playing around with my droid 3. I figured since i was using google voice for my voice mail, I did not need the built in voicemail - only to discover that freezing it killed the dialer too. Likewise when I froze the built in music player, it caused the third party music player app I use to quit working - I have no clue why, but is sure was nice to be able to go back in and just unfreeze as needed.
You h:e a point about freezing. I noticed if you got rid of built in Gallery app... ie delete it... I am unable to apply any images as wallpapers...
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Hi,
You might consider using ROM CLEANER
A great program that will clear all the [email protected] off your system in one go.
i wrote an article about how to get your TF201 as clost to pure as possible
Sorry if this is considered self promotion but it should be helpful heres the link http://www.mikeyb2001.com/2013/07/how-to-get-near-perfect-nexus.html
Helpful, but the same could have been achieved without that guide lol
gee thanks jerk
I just went from Paranoid Android to CyanogenMod, and expected to have to re-add several apps. If I go from an AOSP ROM back to a TouchWiz ROM, it is treated as a different device, and I get an app list months old. I was pleased to see Android attempting to download my newest set of apps...
However, the sync failed like it does 50% of the time (every app individually fails). Now when I visit the Google Play store, I see my 'new' phone with only a couple of apps installed. I just lost the entire list. Since there's no way to batch install apps with the Play Store, I get to spend a looooong time looking up and reinstalling them by clicking around like an idiot.
Am I missing something? Every element of the story I just described seems like awful design. I'd really not like to resort to AppBrain or something like it. It's incredibly stupid that if the Play Store has some error syncing apps, it makes the new short list the new goal for syncing (so, it won't even try next time).
In short, it would be ideal to have my list of installed apps tied to my account, so that in the event of a problem, I could just push a large "Yes, download ****ing everything" button. Apps that aren't compatible with THIS device can just be skipped I guess. Why is this so hard? Instead I'm going down my 'All' list on my phone, tapping 5 times per app to install them one by ****ing one.
Why don't you just backup apps with titanium and then restore them when you flash a new rom? Titanium has batch commands so it's pretty much one click for each. You can also set up a back up schedule so things are always backed up
Aside from my hesitation to use another app to perform a function that is already supported...
Is Titanium storing the apps themselves, or a list of apps? I really really really do not want to store several MB/GB of data which may or may not be corrupted. If anything, I want to simply store a list of apps, which will all re-download upon restoring the backup.
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Aside from my hesitation to use another app to perform a function that is already supported...
Is Titanium storing the apps themselves, or a list of apps? I really really really do not want to store several MB/GB of data which may or may not be corrupted. If anything, I want to simply store a list of apps, which will all re-download upon restoring the backup.
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Yea it will store all the apps. But if they are working, they probably aren't corrupt.
Also, I have had a few phones over the years linked to my Google account and the play store is never segmented by phone. All my apps that I have been using since my OG Droid show up on my note 2. The times I have let the play store sync my apps they all downloaded fine as long as your screen doesn't turn off which you can force to stay on in the dev settings
I have been using titanium for 5 years now. And have restored my apps literally hundreds of times. Never once did it not work. Never had a single failure. I also have only had the play store re install my apps once. That was the very first time time I flashed a rom back on my droid. That was the first and only time it did that.
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Simply as a matter of principle, I am not concerned with storing the apps themselves. The entire point of the app sync is to keep track of what I have installed. Backing up the apps themselves strikes me as a different goal entirely.
I've had many successful restores myself, but just as many failures. It isn't that difficult of a task... and if it does fail, when every app for some reason (even if it is a legitimate one) isn't installed , there's no way to retry the process. Your new list of synced apps is now the tiny amount that succeeded, the rest are lost to needing to manually reselect. This is absurd.
Multiple phones are definitely treated as separate app lists. I have 5 devices on my Play Store account; each has its own list of associated apps.
This is because every time you flash your phone, or factory reset for that matter, your phone gets a new device ID. That makes it look like a new device to the play store. This will happen anytime you flash a ROM and wipe data. Dirty flashes do not change the ID.
If you use titanium back up, it automatically stores your device ID, so it will prompt you to revert it back the first time opening it after flashing the ROM. This will allow you to maybe reinstall apps through play store, or at least keep the "app list".
I personally think you are being petty about this. It's not Google's fault you are constantly flashing your phone and creating new app ID's.
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I have had the play store fail upon sync before, but it has never failed to keep the list of all the apps I've installed on any device tied to my google account. Strange that said list got wiped for you.
I'd just install a backup app and call it a day. I use Ultimate Backup Pro, by Jrummy. The newest version will sync your apps (a list, or the data) to Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive.
^^^ +1 for this
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This is because every time you flash your phone, or factory reset for that matter, your phone gets a new device ID. That makes it look like a new device to the play store. This will happen anytime you flash a ROM and wipe data. Dirty flashes do not change the ID.
If you use titanium back up, it automatically stores your device ID, so it will prompt you to revert it back the first time opening it after flashing the ROM. This will allow you to maybe reinstall apps through play store, or at least keep the "app list".
I personally think you are being petty about this. It's not Google's fault you are constantly flashing your phone and creating new app ID's.
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I'd like to agree that it is petty, or believe the terms of the problem as you describe them.
It isn't petty that a feature is not working correctly. Flashing a phone gives a new device ID, but so does losing it, or replacing it. You're passing off the lack of harmony as my mistake.
The mere fact none of us can find a way to retry the app sync proves my point; this argument alone brings me a bit of closure, because at least I am not the only one with the issue. If you are all happy with backing up actual program data instead of realizing the power of a synced list, fine. To suggest this behavior is the intention of Google, however, is nonsense.
...and one last word: if it were as simple as getting a new device ID upon each flash, surely I'd be able to log in to the Play Store and view the list of apps on my 'old' device, right? How does Google know that device no longer exists? How are the two ideas of "syncing apps, but not across different devices" and "getting a new ID upon flash, then attempting to sync" both able to exist?
Perhaps I'm wrong about all of this, but can you really say using 3rd party software to remedy a failed sync is not noteworthy? I specifically remember myself mocking the idea of avoiding 3rd party software when a user wanted to solve a problem... this is much different. This is a legitimate issue with an existing feature.
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If you are all happy with backing up actual program data instead of realizing the power of a synced list, fine.
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No one said you should backup/restore app data, just the app itself. The app data is actually frowned upon for the most part. Although I have done it numerous times and have never had an issue, but that's a whole different can of worms
But in the end, you do what you want to do.
You are tilting at windmills.
There is a reason everyone uses an app backup program like Titanium or My Backup Pro (those are the two I use). It's the easiest/fastest way to restore apps. Google backup and restore was not intended for 'us' who root. No amount of believing its wrong the way it works is going to change that.
There are apps that will only backup the market link (to your storage) but the only one I know of does not have a one button restore. But it's called App List Backup if you want to check it out.
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I love titanium backup. The fact that I can backup all of my apps and restore them plus restore data, such as the music that's already buffered on Google play music is great. Is a time saver! Imop
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I still feel like you guys are misunderstanding me (mostly, yes, I've tried App List Backup, and it's alright, "Google should already do this better" aside)...
Backing up programs themselves to create some huge file is a completely different thing than maintaining a list of installed apps on Google's servers. Completely different things. You may be willing to say they accomplish the same goal, something I disagree with. Let's stop talking about rooting and flashing, and start considering the idea of a lost/broken/corrupted phone. If the Google app sync worked better (in terms of reliability or feature set), it would be a painless task to have a new phone redownload all apps installed on the old one.
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I still feel like you guys are misunderstanding me (mostly, yes, I've tried App List Backup, and it's alright, "Google should already do this better" aside)...
Backing up programs themselves to create some huge file is a completely different thing than maintaining a list of installed apps on Google's servers. Completely different things. You may be willing to say they accomplish the same goal, something I disagree with. Let's stop talking about rooting and flashing, and start considering the idea of a lost/broken/corrupted phone. If the Google app sync worked better (in terms of reliability or feature set), it would be a painless task to have a new phone redownload all apps installed on the old one.
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You like to find problems instead of solutions. Sure it's a little bit of work to go down the Google Play list and install the one you want but how often are you planning to break/lose/corrupt your phone?
Backup file size. Backup to dropbox. Backup to your SDCard. Move your backup file to your PC.
Restoring a device to the way it was. Do a nandroid. Use your extSDCard. Root the new phone and restore. Boom exactly the way you left it.
I think you already mentioned that you didn't want to use AppBrain. But that is another potential solution.
I realize you want a perfect native Google solution but we are not the ones who can solve that for you. It would be a nice feature, but I still wouldn't use it. App backup gives me more control with really no downside. And nandroid is a perfect system restore with data intact.
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