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So, we all by now have heard of the awesomeness that is MIUI. Im running the Rodrigez port of the ROM, and its fantastic.
One thing about this ROM is that it stores all installed apps on the homescreen, much like the iPhone. There is no launcher. So for people like myself (and IM sure many others), its pretty time consuming arranging all 132 apps on the homescreens the way I want them!
I know in ADW launcher there is a setting to save your homescreen layout to your sd card, which can be conveniently restored when needed. I used this all the time with Cyan and Enomther, simply because it saved time after a fresh install.
Im asking the awesome coders of XDA if they think there is any way of either writing a command/app that will save your homescreen layout into a file on your sd card that can later be restored? I dont know if its something that can be written into the ROM, as Im not a coder. I just know it would save a lot of time in using this ROM. I just had a problem with my sd card and had to repartition it, meaning that I ll need to set all 132 apps on the homescreen again to the order I want them
I know that a nandroid can do this, but a separate application would be nice, as MIUI needs an ext 3 parition for apps2ext to work and everything I do a Nandroid +ext backup, I always have problems restoring it.
Any devs or coders out there know if this is possible?
Ideas?
I would like to see an auto rearrange option.
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Why would you want your homescreens cluttered with apps, I'm running Rod's MIUI, but I'm using Launcher Pro because I have to have a app drawer. And, I think most Android users aren't trying to make their Android phones like the Iphone. If you haven't already, check out the screenshots in the beginning of Themes & App's forum, most users are using alt. launchers to customize the UI. I didn't see one shot with anyone running stock MIUI
blas4me said:
Why would you want your homescreens cluttered with apps, I'm running Rod's MIUI, but I'm using Launcher Pro because I have to have a app drawer. And, I think most Android users aren't trying to make their Android phones like the Iphone. If you haven't already, check out the screenshots in the beginning of Themes & App's forum, most users are using alt. launchers to customize the UI. I didn't see one shot with anyone running stock MIUI
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I have to agree. It seems like we are taking a step back in the evolution of the os. Like who seriously wants all apps mixed up in a clutter on your homescreen? But for the 5 people who do prefer this, I could see why they would want this save option included.
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This is convenient for all users of the very nice standard launcher that MIUI comes with.
I'd happily use it if it existed.
blas4me said:
Why would you want your homescreens cluttered with apps, I'm running Rod's MIUI, but I'm using Launcher Pro because I have to have a app drawer. And, I think most Android users aren't trying to make their Android phones like the Iphone. If you haven't already, check out the screenshots in the beginning of Themes & App's forum, most users are using alt. launchers to customize the UI. I didn't see one shot with anyone running stock MIUI
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Imperial.mack said:
I have to agree. It seems like we are taking a step back in the evolution of the os. Like who seriously wants all apps mixed up in a clutter on your homescreen? But for the 5 people who do prefer this, I could see why they would want this save option included.
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I have to disagree, MIUI is a huge step forward. Regular xda members may not like the iPhone-ness, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of the public tend to gravitate towards it. How do you think they still sell iPhones, anyways? lol.
I look at MIUI as a breath of fresh air. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that we needed a break from Sense and stock for a while.
That being said, I have defected back to CM for now. Main reason: Lockscreen music controls. I love the MIUI lockscreen, but having to unlock, open music app, and press skip just wasn't safe for me, as the only time I use my phone for music is while driving. Personal preference, but pretty important to me.
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I have to disagree, MIUI is a huge step forward. Regular xda members may not like the iPhone-ness, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of the public tend to gravitate towards it. How do you think they still sell iPhones, anyways? lol.
I look at MIUI as a breath of fresh air. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that we needed a break from Sense and stock for a while.
That being said, I have defected back to CM for now. Main reason: Lockscreen music controls. I love the MIUI lockscreen, but having to unlock, open music app, and press skip just wasn't safe for me, as the only time I use my phone for music is while driving. Personal preference, but pretty important to me.
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Never knew people liked that iPhone-esque home screen. Always thought installing another launcher on top of it was mandatory for the Android crowd. Step back indeed, unless you think gravitating towards the iPhone's OS' simplicity is step forward according to the poster right above me. Assuming he's not some T-Mobile exec that just looks at the "big picture's aka sales...
@Op: sorry for veering OT. I just thought what he posted was absolutely absurd! Unless it was complete sarcasm, then I apologize.
You can use Titanium Backup to backup the data portion of the MIUI launcher, restoring that will restore the layout.
And what's with this BS fake "you're the 1 millionth user" banner ads, what is this, 1998!?
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Never knew people liked that iPhone-esque home screen. Always thought installing another launcher on top of it was mandatory for the Android crowd. Step back indeed, unless you think gravitating towards the iPhone's OS' simplicity is step forward according to the poster right above me. Assuming he's not some T-Mobile exec that just looks at the "big picture's aka sales...
@Op: sorry for veering OT. I just thought what he posted was absolutely absurd! Unless it was complete sarcasm, then I apologize.
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It's a step forward in the fact that developers are thinking outside the box and working on the framework/user-interface, instead of focusing all efforts on the "behind-the-scenes" aspect of Android. Don't get me wrong, I love CyanogenMod and TheOfficial, and appreciate all the work the countless devs have done, but the stock UI hasn't changed at all, really, since 1.5...
It's not the simplicity of iOS, per say; rather, the ease of use is what I think draws the crowds. I'm an iPhone to Android convert, and have rid myself of most of my Apple products (bad experience with my MacBook left a horrible taste in my mouth), so I guess you could consider me an Android fanboy.
And why would a T-Mobile exec be promoting a competitor's biggest seller (aka AT&T and the iPhone). Kinda off-base there, if you ask me.
I would also like to apologize for going so far off topic. Had to speak my mind .
I won't be posting (off topic) in this thread again.
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It's a step forward in the fact that developers are thinking outside the box and working on the framework/user-interface, instead of focusing all efforts on the "behind-the-scenes" aspect of Android. Don't get me wrong, I love CyanogenMod and TheOfficial, and appreciate all the work the countless devs have done, but the stock UI hasn't changed at all, really, since 1.5...
It's not the simplicity of iOS, per say; rather, the ease of use is what I think draws the crowds. I'm an iPhone to Android convert, and have rid myself of most of my Apple products (bad experience with my MacBook left a horrible taste in my mouth), so I guess you could consider me an Android fanboy.
And why would a T-Mobile exec be promoting a competitor's biggest seller (aka AT&T and the iPhone). Kinda off-base there, if you ask me.
I would also like to apologize for going so far off topic. Had to speak my mind .
I won't be posting in this thread again.
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I feel you on the alleged ease of use of the iphone but personally I found the Miui homescreen harder to use. If I wanted to open an app, I had to mentally remember which homescreen I placed it on. There was also no other way to sort the homescreen. And when I wanted to move an app to a specific place, other apps shifted places but in sometimes undesirable places. I got frustrated. Thats why I think that the app drawer is a forward evolution of the os. Thats like me places a million shortcuts on my desktop computer instead of going to the start menu or searching for the program in the start menu searchbar. Just my 2cents. Iphone os just not that impressive to me.
I actually have used all the launchers out there and launcherpro is a good launcher to have over certain roms. I myself been on LP plus since CM6 and loved the ability of customizing almost every faucet of the ROM. But since MIUI, I have tried to use LP plus and I have to admit I cannot use any of the launchers to run on top of MIUI. IMO kinda takes away from MIUI.
And because of my opinion, all the apps of course, are on the screens. What did I do? I just used created two folders. One "app" and one "tools" folder and separated them that way. So far so good, unless someone can point me in the direction of a launcher that can organize it in a 'better' way, please let me know. Thanks!
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I actually have used all the launchers out there and launcherpro is a good launcher to have over certain roms. I myself been on LP plus since CM6 and loved the ability of customizing almost every faucet of the ROM. But since MIUI, I have tried to use LP plus and I have to admit I cannot use any of the launchers to run on top of MIUI. IMO kinda takes away from MIUI.
And because of my opinion, all the apps of course, are on the screens. What did I do? I just used created two folders. One "app" and one "tools" folder and separated them that way. So far so good, unless someone can point me in the direction of a launcher that can organize it in a 'better' way, please let me know. Thanks!
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Yes folders are nice. I just didn't like the look of them. I'm happy that cm is porting over the power widget notification bar! That was my fav part of Miui rom
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wdfowty said:
That being said, I have defected back to CM for now. Main reason: Lockscreen music controls. I love the MIUI lockscreen, but having to unlock, open music app, and press skip just wasn't safe for me, as the only time I use my phone for music is while driving. Personal preference, but pretty important to me.
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If you want to skip music without unlock the phone, there are many solutions, search in the marker: "Shake2PlayNext".
http://www.appbrain.com/app/shake2playnext/ru.atrant.shake2playnext
Imperial.mack said:
I feel you on the alleged ease of use of the iphone but personally I found the Miui homescreen harder to use. If I wanted to open an app, I had to mentally remember which homescreen I placed it on. There was also no other way to sort the homescreen. And when I wanted to move an app to a specific place, other apps shifted places but in sometimes undesirable places. I got frustrated. Thats why I think that the app drawer is a forward evolution of the os. Thats like me places a million shortcuts on my desktop computer instead of going to the start menu or searching for the program in the start menu searchbar. Just my 2cents. Iphone os just not that impressive to me.
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or you just can use the search function of your phone
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I have to disagree, MIUI is a huge step forward. Regular xda members may not like the iPhone-ness, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of the public tend to gravitate towards it. How do you think they still sell iPhones, anyways? lol.
I look at MIUI as a breath of fresh air. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that we needed a break from Sense and stock for a while.
That being said, I have defected back to CM for now. Main reason: Lockscreen music controls. I love the MIUI lockscreen, but having to unlock, open music app, and press skip just wasn't safe for me, as the only time I use my phone for music is while driving. Personal preference, but pretty important to me.
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wdfowty said:
That being said, I have defected back to CM for now. Main reason: Lockscreen music controls. I love the MIUI lockscreen, but having to unlock, open music app, and press skip just wasn't safe for me, as the only time I use my phone for music is while driving. Personal preference, but pretty important to me.
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Have you tried WidgetLocker Lockscreen? =P maybe you'll go back to MIUI again if you try it.
I have organized lots of apps in folders so I don't miss the app drawer at all :]
Music Player Pro (app) has lock screen controls.
Best music player out there imo.
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/multimedia/music-playerpro_jkyc.html
Interesting thoughts guys.
I actually take the MIUI homescreen as " a breath of fresh air" as well. I know its a bit iPhoneish, but it works VERY quickly and it looks nice. Also, less widgets = less lag, and for now Im enjoying the change.
I used ADW launcher (love it) and Launcher Pro (also great) on Cyanogen and Enomther for a while, but with MIUI, the launcher they have developed just works so well, which is why I think an app to import and retain homescreen settings would make the ROM even more awesome.
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Interesting thoughts guys.
I actually take the MIUI homescreen as " a breath of fresh air" as well. I know its a bit iPhoneish, but it works VERY quickly and it looks nice. Also, less widgets = less lag, and for now Im enjoying the change.
I used ADW launcher (love it) and Launcher Pro (also great) on Cyanogen and Enomther for a while, but with MIUI, the launcher they have developed just works so well, which is why I think an app to import and retain homescreen settings would make the ROM even more awesome.
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Is miui open sourced?
The beauty of android
Dai323 said:
Interesting thoughts guys.
I actually take the MIUI homescreen as " a breath of fresh air" as well. I know its a bit iPhoneish, but it works VERY quickly and it looks nice. Also, less widgets = less lag, and for now Im enjoying the change.
I used ADW launcher (love it) and Launcher Pro (also great) on Cyanogen and Enomther for a while, but with MIUI, the launcher they have developed just works so well, which is why I think an app to import and retain homescreen settings would make the ROM even more awesome.
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I agree with you on that, MIUI is a very fast and dependable rom, I just don't like my homescreen cluttered, I run a lot of widgets and I don't lag. Nexus can handle it. I have over 200 apps installed and with the standard launcher I couldn't find anything. I have to admit the icons give the phone a uniformed look, but I don't want them on my home screen. I have the App Inventor from Google, and I was trying to come up with a idea for a app, so Ima see what I can do for you. I'm not a dev or anything I'm still going through the tutorials, but we'll see.
Since the day the Galaxy s came I've fallen in with loved Touchwiz as matter of fact it is one of the reason i will not be trading in my Vibrant for Nexus s, well until touchwiz is ported nexus s at least.
But I've notice others with vibrant and other galaxy s phones hate Touchwiz and i want to know why? Please leave response as to why you love or hate touchwiz?
I like some things about TouchWiz...but...
its not customisable
the icons are too big and iphone-like
a lot of screen real estate is lost because everything on the homescreen is too big (should have grids of 5x5 instead of 4x4)
I like the app drawer...jumping to screens when clicking the small dots etc
and its quite fast for me
I really like touchwiz to. I tried launcher pro and adw and i really didnt like them. But i did just installed nero from tw and the gingerbread launcher is sweet.
Fear the beard...
For me it's not so much the TW Launcher as it is the widgets. I've found that I really use Feeds & Updates and Daily Briefing quite a lot, and though there are vaguely comparable ones, none of them have grabbed me.
The notification bar is also unique and extremely useful, so much so that Cyanogen largely copied it.
I think the biggest reason why people hate Touchwiz is because it has been blamed for much of the initial lagginess of the phone. Now we know this is largely not true.
It's childs play to use another launcher however, and people may prefer widgets that do not bind to TW. To each his own, which is the true beauty of Android.
What I don't like about TouchWiz:
-the page indicator on top can't be turned off or set to auto-hide
-the dockbar icon labels don't match the rest of the UI (they don't have black bubbles around the text, it looks mismatched)
-cannot change the number of rows on homescreens
-no swipe actions (ADW ruined me for swiping down anywhere on the screen to get the notification pulldown)
-no activities shortcuts (Wireless AP requires a shortcut!)
-seems to run slower/laggier than ADW or launcherpro
What I do like about TouchWiz:
-FEEDS AND UPDATES
-FEEDS AND UPDATES
-FEEDS AND UPDATES
Soooo much better than the Facebook widget...
Edit: I use ADW.Launcher myself and love it. I really miss Feeds & Updates though.
The app drawer can not scroll like a stock android launcher.
The docks can not be customizable to the level Android allows.
The icons look like an iPhone - AND I hate scrolling left to right (and I dont like the view for scrolling up/down)
I switch ROMs often, TW does not backup it's settings like LP/ADW can.
Other than those things, TW is great... I also prefer the widgets that come with LauncherPro Plus and the speed/customizations that it allows. TW COULD be able to duplicate those features..... but until it does, no thanks.
I love touchwiz. Love the left to right scrolling of the app drawer.love the look and feel. Love the icons. The dock icons are custamizable. This is one reason i dont like custom roms without touchwiz because i love it sooo much.
Things i hate. You cant hide the notification bar and it starts to Burn into your screen. Errrr
It's the iPhone clone look that turns me off. It was bad enough that the samsung made the phone look physically like an iPhone, but to skin Android to look like the iPhone's software was over the top. I don't want people to think I have an iPhone.
youre right
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It's the iPhone clone look that turns me off. It was bad enough that the samsung made the phone look physically like an iPhone, but to skin Android to look like the iPhone's software was over the top. I don't want people to think I have an iPhone.
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i got tired of the ipod touch i had and it resembles the ipod touch iphone too much for me. plus i dont like lines on my screen. i use adw and minimalist theme with black background, totally awesome for me. i can do with out the non sense.
"I love that Google is innovating the Smartphone technology space at an amazing rate. Android is growing fast and holds so much promise. For instance Google voice actions which I am sure you are all familiar with is such a great idea and I cant wait to use it with 2.2. The updated Gmail client and services as well, Chrome to phone are both awesome ideas but will never work on 2.1 so I am looking forward to 2.2 or higher. I own a car and well I do take calls while driving and would like to use voice search or voice dialing to be hands free. Obviously Android can do this just not with 2.1 this is a pretty cool feature also available on 2.2 or higher. What Samsung has done with Touchwiz is pretty cool too. Let's face it Google is perhaps innovating the space a bit too fast. Samsung has developed Touchwiz not only to slow that hectic innovation down. But, perhaps stall it completely on Samsungs devices that way we can enjoy 2.1 with Touchwiz just a little bit longer. It also sets the Galaxy S devices apart from all the other Android smartphones in the market running Google's latest innovations. But also because we like it and it is so good.
That new android Keyboard for Gingerbread is just what the Doctor ordered isn't it? How about the new Google personalized voice recognition for Google voice? Nice, but no thanks I like taking it slow with Touchwiz and 2.1. Who needs location services and GPS anyway right? What are your favorite 2.1 features?" - by Countbunny from the other forum.
That is how I feel about it.
i see people here and other places talking about rooting their thunderbolt (and dinc, before i upgraded) to get rid of sense. well why did you buy the phone then? to me, sense is a dealbreaker. i don't like vanilla android and sense doesn't "muck" stuff up as long as the hardware is decent (cougheriscough). so to you who don't like sense, maybe provide some insight to your perspective? is there something that vanilla offers that sense doesn't and i just don't know about it? please, explain.
For me it's just a personal preference. Sense runs fine on the TBolt, sure. But, I prefer the layouts/customizing I can do with LauncherPro, so that's what I use instead.
I don't care for sense myself. Maybe it's because I started out on a Moto Droid, but I prefer the basic Android applications by far. I can live with Sense, but when vanilla ROMs come out, I'll switch. For now, LauncherPro is close enough. The only thing I really can't stand is the text messaging app, but that's why they make 3rd party!
I've had the Incredible and Droid X, and didn't care for Sense or MotoBlur much on those, either. I'm just happy that there are so many options to keep everyone happy!
I have no clue, and would like to know this as well? I love the look, and feel of sense myself personally.
Short answer because sense sucks, real answer because I started out on the original droid I got use to vanilla android. I don't really like the way sense is laid out just doesn't work as well for me.
I bought the phone because it's great hardware and I was reasonably certain I would be able to dump sense. If I was stuck with the phone bone stock... Ugh.
I like Sense but I like the customization of ADW EX better. Also I'm beta testing SPB Mobile 3D and running it on top of Sense drains the battery. Other than that, Sense is pretty cool.
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For me it's just a personal preference. Sense runs fine on the TBolt, sure. But, I prefer the layouts/customizing I can do with LauncherPro, so that's what I use instead.
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yeah for me i use launcher pro, have five icons at the very bottom of the screen at 185 DPI that open 5 different apps, and then if you swipe those icons they open 5 more apps. very clean look.
then WP Clock wallpaper and it is clean and totally awesome.
I guess some people like having an unmolested version of Android, the way Google wants it to be.
I personally love Sense. I love the dialer, the widgets, and some of the social aspects of it. I really don't have any negatives about it at all.
i dont mind sense, but i like the customization with other launchers that sense doesnt offer. and if its not going to offer it and im going to use something else then there is no reason for it to take up space and recourses. its not that its bad it just that some people are more anal about removing stuff from their phone they are not going to use. same with bloat apps. if im not going to use them i want the option to delete them.
Well to me sense slows the phone down a little bit more than stock vanilla android. Also having sense instead of stock android slows getting updates, if we had a stock vanilla android phone, we would get gingerbread faster.
Luckily that is one of the reason I root and put other roms on the phone like CM7.
I personally like SenseUI. I had it on a Hero before, and it ran like crap, but the Thunderbolt runs it really nicely. I like the way things integrate with the contact list, etc. I haven't really had a vanilla Android device, but I'm guessing soon I'll be trying one out Oh yeah, and CM7 too
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Sense is one of the main reasons I'm an HTC fan.
I had it... (sort of..) on my old VZW TP2. Ran like a slug. Now that I have an actually functioning version, it is great! I also like how many people hate Sense, but still want the HTC flip clock.. lol.. best of both worlds?
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I do have to add... thank God for 3rd party SMS apps....
Sense runs fine on TB hardware and the "new" Sense has made improvements over "old" Sense... but I still prefer AOSP.
I like CM7 particularly (among other AOSP-based ROMs) because of speed and I like the vanilla look and feel. I find it to be more appealing... and I use LPP or ADW whether I am on CM7 or stock Sense.
I also hate the crappy DPI of Sense. Everything looks blown up and pixelated on such a big display. I also hate the Sense dialer and contacts app... along with SMS. I much prefer stock (or third-party like GoSMS and GoContacts).
Need to figure out how to change the DPI. Looks like you can do it with Launcher Pro... any other way to do it?
It looks like fischer price. The friend stream widget you can only see like 1 or 2 peoples status per page. The launcher pro version of this is much better. There's a huge ass phone button in the middle of the dock. Launcher pro is much better with the ability, as someone earlier mentioned, to do 5 icons. You can swipe those 5 and get 10, then you can have up to 3 docks you can rotate between for even more. I use all 15 icons, with the swipe gesture on all of them for a total of 30 apps that I don't need to clutter up my homescreen to get.
The clock is massive and a waste of screen real estate. There's already a clock in the top right of appropriate size, why do I need a gigantic flip clock that does nothing but drain my battery.
The stuff where you can flip it over to silence it or turn on speakerphone is nice though, I like that. But the launcher and the widgets really suck.
This is my first sense phone, and i must say that i really like sense. Unless it really starts to be a liability to the phone, i will always use it or keep it around.
I actually dont mind sense at all, and i think it is a huge improvement over motoblur (from what ive seen on my friends phones) but i was running a rooted launcher pro OG droid, so in the end ill probably switch (already rooted).
To people that havent really been on android though I can see the love they have for sense (at least on the T bolt).
I personally have already gotten used to the launcher tray and I am a fan, but the messaging app on the droid was better, and while i like the dial pad itself, the way the contacts and call log are i have to go + to droid as well.
I love Sense. I mean all the others (Blur, Touchwiz) they all SUCK, but I think sense actually adds to the android experience.
i can see the statements about the huge widgets, but you can add or remove those as you see fit. i personally don't use any sense widgets on my home screen, but i like that they are scrollable. i use the calendar and people widgets as book ends (far left and right screens within the scene). but i find that sense brings a LOT of good features to android to integrate and make the use of the phone better. the pinch zoom out/tap "home" to show all screens to quickly jump to one instead of having to swipe left or right, etc. i like how it syncs facebook contact info with people, i like the color scheme especially. there are other things i like that i don't have on my work phone (OG Droid). as far as stock apps, i use handcent and gmail. i can say for certain i DO NOT like the stock people or contacts app. it sucks epically.
RE: being able to delete apps you don't use, i actually wrote a letter to corporate about that (don't put bloatware on my phone. put it in the market or if you put it on let me delete it) due to backup assistant, the moron at the store started to set my phone up for me, and was past that stage when he handed me my phone. i've been on android for over a year and before that was with blackberries using google sync also, haven't used backup assistant since my enV.
anyways, i can see some of the "customization" options on having different home screens, but sense is more than just a launcher. you can use 3rd party launchers and still keep the benefits of sense, which is the best of both worlds, if that's what your into. i personally like the sense stock look and once a good and stable root is available i'll root (no roms for me, they all suck one way or another IMO) to get my titanium and screen cap, then delete bloatware. FTW!!!
I tried liking adw but even with homescreen button lock on I found myself accidentally dragging the homescreen button off the screen and had to reload the launcher.
Plus adw looks too much like my Droid and I was ready for a change so this fits perfect. Seems like some wanna over customize just for bragging rights. To me Sense has plenty of options put of the box
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new to RAZR after 3 years Of samsung Touchwiz UI.
Have to say this, the motoblur light is incredible to me. I have never loved a UI so much before. Having had AOSP gingerbread and touchwiz gingerbread, i can't believe this is still gingerbread. I have no desire for ICS anymore. My friend has a Nexus with ICS and I find it boring compared to this.
Have to ask, how is this light? It seems like a complete gingerbread makeover.
My favorite features:
1. cool toggle for mute on lock screen.
2. Favorite contacts widgets with pull down
3. Social networking combo with better comment support than facebooks own app
4. swiping pages transition glow.
5. Honeycomb like resizing, drag and drop to screen.
6. Folder groupings and animation for it.
7. messaging looks like iphone.
8. MUSIC APP. wow. This is just amazing. (internet radio, podcasts, my own stored music, music store). The way it automatically downloads lyrics and shows them as the song goes. etc....... ++++++
9. clearing out individual notifications.
10. Weather widget
How is this motoblur light again? wow, what a phone!
-New overwhelmed user.
Having used Touchwiz and stock Gingerbread, as well (as well as CM GB and several others), I agree completely. I never thought I would say this, but Blur is better than stock. Hell has frozen over.
Blur=root and put stock rom
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I too am enjoying Blur on my Razr. Love the Favorite Contacts and Weather widgets. The Dock looks gorgeous.
I came from the Eris with sense. Tried every ROM possible with many different launchers, but have no pressing urge to switch besides backing up my homescreen setup which isn't a big deal since I'm not flashing ROMS every week.
I actually don't mind the blur either. I run adw though because i don't like the blur icons and like the swipe up-down feature of adw. Blur runs smoother but that's to be expected.
I also like the Blur and stock widgets are actually usable. I especially like stock corporate apps like corporate email, tasks and calendar. I use it on daily basis to accept meeting etc.
I saw several reviews that said this is the first phone without blur. They were either really wrong or misunderstood this phone.
o.o well hi guys. I decided since nowhere on the internet can i find anything about improvements made to sense 4.5 over 4.1 and there are roms being made...id try to list some of the ones i have noticed, cause noone else will. Now yes, i say improvments, and i however mean over-all differences that have been made, i have an htc evo 4g lte and decided id try out the newly released and since greatly improved sense 4.5 rom available for my device. I would also like to note before i continue that any article or blog related to this, and some other roms, for OTHER DEVICES only list sense 4.5 as snappy, or quicker. Any why yes they are *shocked* but why whats missing where should i go to find this information
-Note: I will warn you that some of the changes i list may be rom-related however i have attempted to probe around and do some homework before posting the ones that are sense 4.5 related, and not related soley to the rom and changes that were made. However since you likely have a htc evo 4g lte i am sure you will like to hear a little about the rom as even on their main forum, very little is shown about the rom as "they forgot" so i will attempt to include information i have found about the rom aswell to give you a better idea of what you are getting yourself into.
I have gone through many roms for this device and find them all to be ho-hum or "not great improvements to stock" and here is why and ill list the roms i have used and give you my +'s and -'s for each rom. yes if you would like to skip this, go ahead as that matters anout as much to me as you do, just scroll untill you see if you skipped.
1. The Viper 4g rom.
Now here is a rom i throughly enjoyed and the only one out of ALLL the rest that i made a nandroid backup to return to incase i didnt like the rest of them. The +'s to this rom include battery life, performance, and customization. Three things you dont usually expect to see all in one package. I admit that this is not the most professional looking rom out there however with enough tweaks to the included graphics the rom turns out to be the second best one i have tried so far. Because of the viper configuration done through the terminal this rom has the best battery life i have seen for a rom that i have used. It lowers the processor power down to pre-configured levels when the screen is off and when used in conjunction with the evilz kernal (not for the overclocking, but for the underclocking during lockscreen) you can set the processor to run at 192MHZ and use a single core while in lockscreen. Giving me an over-all idle battery life of about 6-7 days. and regular use battery life (determined by using the phone and immediately locking it afterwords) of about a day and a half. I then set the processor to 1.7GHZ maz and 192mhz min on the power saver governer while the phone is not asleep or in lockscreen and i have a phone that will not fail to do what i ask, even if what i ask it is to live. Making me absolutely love this rom. However i have found that most customization that has been added into this rom, graphics, and even ability wise is quite lacking. I also notice that these same customization options are found in the charmeleon rom for this very device, ultimately leading me to not even attempt trying a rom that supported pokemon as while i do enjoy the games, i simply want a professional looking device that i can configure as well and this put me at a loss for the charmealon rom, the viper rom was my second option for this kind of configuration and it atleast made the device look as though it was not made for a 5-12 year old so i decided to go with it.
2. The Mean ICS rom.
This rom was cool for one reason and i used it for a very small amount of time for this reason alone, when compared to the Viper rom, this rom has less customization options, a kernal that could not be overclocked as well as the kernal i was running on viper (i do understand that this was my doing, but why settle for less. And a kernal that while it had power saving options, those options are found on almost every rom out there and are not nearly as innovative as the viper roms power management settings. The reason that i thought this rom was cool for the very brief time i was using it, was the boot animation. If comming from the Viper 4g rom, id stick with Viper and throw in a new kernal...
3.Cyanogen Mod 10- Nightlies rom.
I adored this rom, however because of the various failures of the rom i was forced to give it up. The camera in jelly bean is terrible (cuts off parts of pictures i want) and will suddenly without reason take completely black pictures, to add to that the roms launcher would crash repeatidly making me feal as if my phone was about to mess up perm every time this happened especially when doing something like flashing my recovery to my boot in order to restore a previous rom, make changes to my boot partition, or change kernals to allow for further customization options for my processor. That and the fact that i missed sense widgets made me need to give up this rom untill it is in its final stages.
4.Freevo Rom
This rom was interesting as it was basically the jelly bean rom, on ics for me. No lag anywhere, no bloatwhere, the only thing that made me leave this rom was that i had found a more interesting rom, and the fact i could not use sense widgets. Also i am not a fan of how android looks regularly, forcing me to continuously look for a sense rom.
5.Blahh blahh jewel rom.
I apologize to the dev but for some reason i am having a hard time remembering the name of this rom. This rom included in it the attempt to blend the xperia experience with the sense experience. I have to say it did so quite well as the apps that were designed specifically for the xperia came out running well on the device, however the speed of said device was deminished for a reason i cannot fully explain. When running absolutely nothing on the phone, i was lagging switching between panels on my homescreen. I am searching for good battery life, good performance, sense, and jelly bean like responsiveness. SO this rom was already out of my sight and i had to switch roms, i may come back to this rom at a later date but i am throughly enjoying the rom i am currently using, the only upgrade i see in sight is when they move this sense 4.5 rom into jelly bean.
6. Super LTE bareback rom
I used this rom specifically because of the data throttle code removal listed in the changelog and the 7000 quad measured for the bareback version of this rom. I liked the speed i was getting however i missed the sense widgets i had grown to love before throwing a rom on my phone and decided to switch to the sense version at a later time.
7. UR evo Rom.
This rom i loved for a few reasons and almost didnt switch from it. Those reasons were, better camera (not 4.5 camera, just better), everything worked, alright battery life, power saver settings, update me smartphone app (for themeing purposes), and all sound enhancer profiles and setting i have read were originally included in 4.1 before the new RUU. The phone was everything i wanted it to be but it still wasnt quick enough, there was just something missing from it for me, maybe it was the config but i felt this same effect while using the VIPER rom so that couldnt be it. So ofcourse the search continues. I ended up using this rom as a daily for a week.
8. Super LTE Rom
For the very brief amount of time i used this rom, i ABSOLUTELY ADORED IT. it was a god rom for me and set up exactly the way i wanted it. it still had the missing factor though and i decided that this thing i was missing was what i gained from Jelly bean in Cyanogen mod 10, So i continued the search, searching for working jelly bean roms. Now this was a hard search at the time.
9. Paranoid Android LTE rom.
All i can say in relation to this rom was WOW. Paranoid android had the same (if less) issues that Cyanogen mod 10 had but made up for it with the unique customization that comes bundled into the rom. Allowing you to change dpi settings per app and their attempt to mix phone dpi with their "tablet mode" to create hybrid, and phablet mode was unreal. Along with their tablet mode which did its best to turn your phone into a tablet with phone capabilities. If this rom had my sense widgets i loved, i would never have left it. Jelly bean with less problems with Cyanogen mod 10 and more configuration with all the responsiveness and battery life of jelly bean? then add Rosie and you have got yourself the best phone i can think of. But saddly rosie was not included in this jelly bean rom nor was sense or my sense widgets or apps that i love (i actually use car alot) SO eventually this rom out grew its worth as i was missing something from sense that could only be on sense. I also want to note for anyone thinking of using this rom that it also comes with all of cyanogen mod 10's settings bundled in aswell.
10. FINALLY and surprisingly number 10... >.> i might be missing a few. The SENSE 4.5 ICS rom.
To set the record straight, I did not want to use this rom i am currently using. I looked at it and went, eh its kinda cool-ish. but what could make sense 4.5 better than 4.1? i looked and looked and looked. You know what i found? it was smoother...and it had a cool camera. SO i searched some blogs, and through xda a bit. i found, cool camera. Much smoother (in almost the same words, including snappy). I searched the forum that the rom was in, and all related posts for the rom. I found less than smoother and camera... To put in quite a small amount of words, curiosity had got the best of me. I searched on bing, google, blackle, ask, yahoo (as some search engines contain different resultes, now that some are complying to the DMCA and other laws (google, yahoo) i was forced to believe that somewhere the info was left off so i searched bing (which does not currently comply with the DMCA in terms of results given so i must assume it also does not comply with a law prohibiting this information to be shown in search results) and i found ZILTCH. i went to youtube, and heard the same upsetting thing i had been hearing the entire time (not much changes in sense 4.5, its a bit quicker and the camera has alot of improvements)....This set me off a little bit and i refused to look at my phone no matter how much it pleaded for 30-45 minutes before comming back to it and saying, alright, lets give this a shot. I read some of the information relating to the rom to see what features i would be loosing and found that it was similar to a mixture between the Viper rom and the UR evo rom in terms of features present. Such as the Sound enhancer settings and music box options and blah blah blah. So i would be getting sense and my sound options i loved from Ur Evo, as well as theming options for Rosie. I took it i wouldnt be loosing much and downloaded the rom for installation. Enabled the HTC dumlock allowing me to access the boot partion from inside TWRP recovery and went forward with the installation. It was a nice, clean installation, i dont mind putting time into things that might pay off so i decided it was worth it, and did the standard, factory reset, clear cache, clear dalvic, and wipe system. WITHOUT performing a nandroid incase it messed up. IT went through with everything, i wiped dalvic and cache and rebooted. The device booted with the HTC ONE boot up and loaded more quickly than it did from previous 4.1 roms. And upon completing setup, i felt i had a jelly bean device in my hands. with sense 4.5.
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Noticable differences from sense 4.1
1. Noticable keyboard lag removal in stressful situations.
2. Complete keyboard lag removal in browser.
3. Internet "tabs" button labled with number of currently open tabs.
4. Slight Widget animation Removal.
-Notes: This was first noticed while swyping up on the weather 4x4 widget, which usually displayed a stream of clouds. it now displays a single cloud, moving further away from you, or closer to you, determined by the direction of the swype on the widget.
5. Noticable homescreen/rosie lag removal (noticable to the degree of jelly bean)
-Notes: Confirmed not part of rom! Smooth settings for Rosie (flattening settings...this is a fast phone, why take away from it) are not yet stable on this rom and have, because of this fact, not yet been enabled, nor do you have the ability to enable them in options. I have also personally confirmed that the widgets have not been pre-flattened.
6. Improved keyboard type location recognition and integration.
-Notes: Previously in 4.1 the keyboard when pressing new message through the widget it would present you with the standard new message screen, now it asks for the name of contact/contacts and upon pressing enter key sends you to the message part of the message. I find this to be a minor improvement.
7. Multitasking has been improved a very small degree.
-Notes: The slight delay if you leave an app on accident, before the app is destroyed and awaits reconstruction via a tap in the recent apps panel, seems to be increased by about 4-5 seconds over 4.1.
8. Multitasking improvement
-Notes: a mod has been floating around for this device enableing unlimited recent apps panels in recent apps, this seems to have been implemented inside of Sense 4.5 however i am unable to confirm if this is rom related. However due to the fact that apps are reconstructed on request after destruction through the recent apps panel still, i cannot confirm that the entire mod was implemented which leads me to believe that this is a sense 4.5 improvement over 4.1, and not an implemented mod.
9. Quick settings re-implementation and improvement
-Notes: i am saddly again unable to fully see this as a sense 4.5 upgrade as 4.1 roms have re-implemented quick settings via roms aswell. However i noticed a difference response through quick settings, you no longer have to click the on/off/whatever button itself to enable or disable the option, rather click on the entire rectangular portion that contains both the button, description, and icon. This being a much larger area over 4.1 allows you to more quickly access quick settings which i have found usefull when using the flashlight application.
10. New HTC Navigation App - HTC Locations.
-This app has been implemented in HTC's Car application, replacing google navigation. While google navigation still comes on the device, it is no longer used as the primary for HTC car, a mod is required to adjust this inside of the rom itself, otherwise it will be a challenge to replace as many of the mods for sense 4.1 no longer work correctly on sense 4.5. I had to change it back to google navigation, and then to co-pilot live premium usa after i got that app and definately paid for it....It seems like a promising app but it is not quite functional yet as on a test it displayed a wendys was 57 miles away from my location, as the closest wendys to me. Google Navigation showed me one within 2 miles. Best to avoid this one if you are in florida.
11. Rotation Issues Noticed in google navigation that i have never before seen, untested in other apps.
-Notes: I realize this could be the rom, or the fact that sense 4.5 is still getting its problems worked out causing this issue, or the fact that sense 4.5 is not on ics but on an accidental rotation of google navigation i realized that google navigation will go from portrait, to landscape, and back to portrait, but when putting it into landscape the second time, will freeze and no notification will present itself. This required a manual force close of the app whilst driving and surrounded by 3 cops, you can immagine the frustration.
12. Contact menu upon opening from messages application has changed.
-Notes the area where the picture for the contact is, is smaller, and seems to be in a different format.
13. Overall lag removal (switching between apps, opening apps, closing apps, and super user rights, browser tab switching, browser operation) comprable to Jelly Bean, even under stressfull situation (many unclosable apps open, gps, browser...blah blah) this thing will not lag, and i believe that has something to do with the new kernal implmented in sense 4.5, and the fact that sense 4.5 was being designed for jelly bean.
14. LANDSCAPE ROSIE
-I realize that alot of roms have already implemented this as a feature with different formats, and app drawer configurations, but i have confirmed that this is not in fact part of the rom (the option is greyed out in config menu, rom dev states options greyed out in said menu require more testing before implementation, thus are not available at this time)
16. Blue Notification Line surrounds foreground active text box when entering text (i do not recognize this from stock, or 4.1 roms i have used)
17. HTC notes application
-Notes: I am unsure whether or not this application existed on my phone before doing all of my rom craziness, however i am sure that this app was not previously in any of the roms i have used leading me to believe that this was not in my phone originally and i have confirmed that this was not added in my the dev (other than the fact he through sense 4.5 on my phone)
18. Better looking folder icons
-Notes: i am un-themed as of right now, even through skins and themes do exist on this rom, so i must note that i am running what is supposed to be stock, and the folder icon seems sharper, clearer, not as rounded, and a darker black than it was previously on unthemed stock 4.1 viper, or mean rom.
19. HTC camera improvements....ugh
-Notes: to the casual user on first glance the first usable thing you will notice is the fact you no longer have to go through a menu to switch to the front facing camers. I will also add that a default self timer has been defaulted on the font facing camera and you may click anywhere on the screen other than capture video to take a picture. I will also add that tap-to-focus has recieved an improvement. the camera will focus and upon completion of focus will immediately take the picture. I will also add that the quality of the camera has been slightly improved. other than that i can offer you a google search for the rest of the more techy information relating to the camera, as while i use it alot, i tend to not mess with the settings to much, just switch from front facing, to rear facing, use hdr, and panorama. The things i thought to note were the features i use and i have.
20. Flipboard app included in 4.5
-Notes: i will admit i had noooo clue what flipboard was before i signed up for it, but now that i have it, i use it daily so i must note its existance in sense 4.5. I do not believe this app was added in through the rom but i may be mistaken. This is basically just a social newspaper that displays information you are interested in, in a way similar to stumble apon.
21. Google NOW
-Notes: google now has been included in this rom as it is included in sense 4.5, i am unsure if this had to be modded in to work with ics or not but it is there and usable, you should know what google now is if you have ever used jelly bean, but it is basically the jelly bean search function, and the jelly bean general voice search and information function, its like a very basic siri for android. Better ones exist on the market or google play and I would tell you to get "Assistant" Which has a much better text to speech engine built in and will perform the same basic functions as google now with better features included for free.
22. Data throttling code removal (getting 1MB/s down on 3 bars 3g service from sprint, previously on Viper 4g and Ur Evo i was getting top 350MB/s) -Notes: this could be because of the rom however as i have stated most of the mods that previously worked on sense 4.1 do not work on sense 4.5 so i can not conclusively count out the idea that this is a sense 4.5 feature. It would be nice if it was so i offer it as such.
I will continue to update this thread as i get more information relating to sense 4.5, i have had this on my phone for a day now and all seems to be working well. For those interested about rom features the forgot to mention
In quick settings you will notice a button called chubbz and soc23 tweaks button that is similar in function to the Viper 4g tweaks and Charmealeon <---spelling? feature in each of those roms and has a list of tweaks for sense 4.5 that seems as long or longer than the ones listed in the previously listed roms. Also a themeing feature is present however i cannot confirm that any of it is working yet as the only feature of it i have got working is the ability to change overall system-wide font.
All sound enhance options have been re-enabled.
the speed of the device, even though its on ICS is comprable to jelly bean (not over-estimating, maybe understating)
the camera...is cool i guess? not really something to write home about, some cool new features
Anyways thank you for reading everyone, im going to go watch one of the 10 movies i bought and definately paid for over the last 3 hours with some family and i hope you enjoyed, as i said i will continue to update with more related information about sense 4.5 and features that may have been missed.
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Talk about an epic first post..."hey guys" would of sufficed lol ..and did I miss it what was your favorite Rom ? Assuming chubbz and sacs..whos thread was locked for some reason . Was thinking of trying it out..but mean has been great for me
Wow, this was thorough. I've been on & off with the 4.5 Rom (v3) due to JavaScript + Stock Browser closing problems but after reading this, I'm more interested in trying out a few of the other ROMs you've mentioned.
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I thanked that just cause you took the time to type that all out. Hot damn.
You forgot Fresh rom. It is IMO the best sense rom out off them all.
U wanna write a paper for me ? I was the one who went to the skip section
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Talk about an epic first post..."hey guys" would of sufficed lol ..and did I miss it what was your favorite Rom ? Assuming chubbz and sacs..whos thread was locked for some reason . Was thinking of trying it out..but mean has been great for me
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Well first off thank you for your comment, and i went to look at mean rom ics's thread today and they have made some interesting improvements that i might be willing to look at soon. Im not really sure why the thread was locked, im sure its original forum hasnt been locked but i very well could be wrong. And while i may have hinted twards the idea that the Sense 4.5 ICS rom was my favorite, i would actually have to say that i have a few favorites based on the things i am looking for. the Sense 4.5 ICS rom is just something that has all of what i want in one semi-not yet done, package. But interestingly enough i did not indeed state this in OP my favorite rom, and its hard to pick just one but ill give it a go.
Jelly Bean: Paranoid Android : this rom is using Cyanogen mod 10 as a base, and then mixing in paranoid android, and it does it so well, i was shocked every time i turned on my phone.
Sense 4.1: Super LTE : This rom has a few things i have never seen in other roms, and almost all the things i have seen in other roms, WHILE boasting faster and smoother usability than other roms. The only thing this rom is lacking is Battery life, in that aspect, Viper 4g ICS can not be beaten.
Sense 4.5: Sense 4.5 ICS rom.
-The reason i like this rom so much is simply because it has everything i want, Battery life, Performance, Sound enhancing settings, Sony Bravia Image and video rendering engine, Customization, Personalization, themeing options (when i figure out how they work) and Jelly bean like touch response and lag removal. However, I cant state this rom as an over-all favorite as while it has everything, it is not complete yet. What i need is this exact rom on an error removed Jelly Bean before i can throw it up as my favorite. Or AT LEAST have the rotation FC issue worked out but, even with its problems, it is still currently the rom that fits what i am looking for the best at this moment.
Thank you again! sorry i get chatty when it comes to roms.
You still havnt tried Fresh
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You still havnt tried Fresh
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hah sorry about that i actually am just about ready to leave this rom as it isnt quite ready to use as a daily driver yet so i may end up looking at it again however i do remember trying an older version of fresh evo and i did like it from what i could see of it but i was looking at the time for something dramatically different and that simply wasnt it for me. I will look to see if any new improvements have been made to the rom before i install the new version of Paranoid android back onto my device and hopefully the gs3 camera included with cyanogen mod 10 as long as it still works well enough.
I do apologize for not getting back to you sooner however, as i am sort of hating the fact i am limited to 5 minutes per post Anyways for the time-being i will attempt leaving sense again, however i will attempt to check out and look at the new versions of fresh evo and see if improvements have been made, hopefully the data throttle removal has been implemented recently, i will also look at the mean rom as i have seen alot of improvements from the time i originally tried the rom
ALSO i must note the fact that i was originally getting these roms from a reviewer who was supplying me with out-dated rom packages, leading me to believe that during my first run through these roms i was using v 1.0.0 and now that many updates have been applied i will attempt to check them all out at least one more time before passing final judgement on them. Honestly, i hope to god a new rom comes along that blows me out of the water the way paranoid android did the first time i used the rom on a different device, and then again on my lte. I have also during my night tonight found that the viper 4g ics rom has been updated and i am happy to see some of the problems i noticed corrected and will attempt again soon.
To put simply, I will attempt re-trying all of these roms a second time and see what they have to offer me. And i will post a new thread with reviews relating to said roms as soon as i get the chance, likely by the end of next week.
For those more interested in this rom i will be updating with a list of features included in this rom that i did not before mention AND an updated list of noticed sense 4.5 over-all changes.
Ill let you know what i think of the fresh evo rom when i get back from testing it out over this next week. Thank you very much for reading, and i hope you have a wonderful night.
His review on the Sense 4.5 ROM is pretty much spot on. It's the best ROM i've used so far for this phone. Only thing i can knock it for is when you're connected to 4G and the icon changes to something completely different while handling data. I don't agree with it..but I enjoy it.
And another thing. Idk if it's just me..but I remember on the OG Evo when the DHD was released with a newer version of Sense and devs ported it over. Didn't their color scheme revolve around blue? I'm noticing a lot of blue in this ROM ex: Most bullets are blue. Loading bars are blue. Focused text boxes are blue. My incoming and outgoing texts are even a shade of blue. Anything focused is blue! Which, if I can remember correctly, is exactly how it was for the DHD's version of sense. If that's true..do they only change the color scheme for our Sprint version? Or do they change the scheme for all US phones? Just me thinking out loud...
Sure it isn't cernel?
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