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Could it be the new weather animations? That's gotta be it, Hollywood A-grade computer animation in QHD resolution, sorta makes "sense" LOL...we if that's the case, then I'll take it! The weather animations in Sense 3.0 kicks ass over anything available today, both on Android and iDrone.
It's such eye candy!
Sense 3.0 isn't bloated in my opinion.. it was designed to take advantage of the available hardware... Which means a bigger footprint,,, everything gets bigger when it gets better.... We went from vhs<dvd<blu ray
Of course a old vhs lover would say 20+gb is too much but it sure looks good doesn't it.... Same situation here
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We just have people that hate on sense regardless of how big it is or isnt
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Personally I care less about how much space it uses and more about how slow it is. On my Evo 4G, I saw a 35% to 40% increase in speed using several different benchmarks when I dumped Sense and went with an AOSP ROM. I suspect this phone will SCREAM once it is rooted and we get a good AOSP ROM on it. Right now, it's barely beating my AOSP ROM'd Evo 4G.
Mike
mikeyxda said:
Personally I care less about how much space it uses and more about how slow it is. On my Evo 4G, I saw a 35% to 40% increase in speed using several different benchmarks when I dumped Sense and went with an AOSP ROM. I suspect this phone will SCREAM once it is rooted and we get a good AOSP ROM on it. Right now, it's barely beating my AOSP ROM'd Evo 4G.
Mike
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But on day to day usage was it faster?
I love trying roms and playing with different programs, but the original sense on the evo is smooth and plenty fast at anything I do on a daily basis. Benchmarks are great, but in the end they don't mean crap
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But on day to day usage was it faster?
I love trying roms and playing with different programs, but the original sense on the evo is smooth and plenty fast at anything I do on a daily basis. Benchmarks are great, but in the end they don't mean crap
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Fair point. I don't really play arcade/graphics games on the phone so I don't find much use for the extra speed honestly. It did make scrolling and app loading quicker but I can't say that's huge. AOSP ROMs did use less battery for me too: quite a bit less. On the speed side: it's just nice knowing it's there if you need it. Sort of like owning a 200 MPH sports car that you know will never see that speed under your watch.
Mike
Hi all,
Had my EVO 3D now for two days and it's a great phone, the 3D features are superb (probably a novelty but i'm enjoying them for now)
I've rooted and s-off'd my phone and the bootloader is unlocked.
I've installed a few roms, mostly sense, but pretty much everyone i have tried is quite laggy, not all the time but laggy in parts, now i was under the impression that this was pretty much the same phone (bar a few bits) as the sensation.
The sensation roms that i've had were superb, no lag (or very very little) and they worked perfect for the most part.
Is this because it's not been developed for -for very long? Or is this something which we will have to get used to?
EG: If anyones wondering what i'm on about, spin your carousel around and when it's about to re-align with the last window, it jitters slightly, the sensation on lets say insert coin never did this.
I'm running leedroid at the moment, the roms good it just stutters a bit, i've also tried king cobra, mikrunny, shooterbeats, the only one i've not tried is honeycombo.
Oh and i'm using lees kernel too at 1.5ghz max 400mhz min.
I'm not having a go at the dev's because in my eyes they're a bunch of geniuses whom we could not have our beloved androids without, my hat comes off to all of them, it's just i'm noticing a fair bit of lag through all the roms i've tried.
Any one elses input on this would be good.
Cheers.
I have used a few ROM/kernel combinations that would cause my second core (CPU1) to go completely offline. Its not supposed to be on all the time (although you can set it to be); but it is supposed to come on under heavy load. This tutorial helped me solve that problem. Maybe will help you too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20519070&postcount=3129
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I have used a few ROM/kernel combinations that would cause my second core (CPU1) to go completely offline. Its not supposed to be on all the time (although you can set it to be); but it is supposed to come on under heavy load. This tutorial helped me solve that problem. Maybe will help you too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20519070&postcount=3129
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Thanks m8, I did get the app, bought it too nice app but i haven't noticed any change in terms of speed or performance and it does have that irritating lag when swiping between some screens.
I know sense isn't perfect but my DHD was smoother than this with sense 3.0 roms.
EDIT: Just checked the setting within system tuner pro (has to be pro, the free one doesn't allow the switching of the cores) , don't set it to boot, set it to init.d script instead, the second core hadn't come on active until i did this, it's probably going to rinse my battery but if it makes it smoother (which it has) then great.
Thanks man.
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So in short.
Buy system tuner pro.
Switch on all cores, via settings - Active tweaks - force all cpu's online - init.d
Go back and select CPU from main page.
Knock up the frequency to whats safe / needed.
Enjoy a smoother rom and a shorter battery life
i like fresh never lags on my phone stock kernel its probably as close to stock as you can get but it has a lot of goodies i don't like all the flashy colors of other rom's if that sounds like what u like check out fresh
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i like fresh never lags on my phone stock kernel its probably as close to stock as you can get but it has a lot of goodies i don't like all the flashy colors of other rom's if that sounds like what u like check out fresh
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I will do m8, thanks.
I've been living with the Desire HD and Sensation for some time now and the roms on both of those phones are superb, no lag whatsoever, they just work and i only realised how well when i put the two of them together and swiped the carousel, the sensation was about 10fps better off, very noticable when you compare them, i really hope the dev's get their heads together on this.
Try ledriod mega quick
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Try ledriod mega quick
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Yea i'm using Leedroid at the moment, it is the fastest rom out there for the GSM EVO3D but i think there is still room for improvement.
What is the smoothest sense 3.0 rom?
And when i say smooth i mean no lag, no stutter, no glitches, no nothing, just a smooth, as you would have liked it rom.
Some ppl say rom's are smooth and i find them to be laggy, for instance (no offence Lee) Leedroid's rom is laggy, but everything works!
Need a rom which works and is smooth as butter, like coredroid on the sensation.
Quickest rom i've ever seen, frame rate is ridiculous.
Any suggestions???
Blackend is pretty smooth but I only switch between EVOZone and blackened, haven't tried anything outside of those two
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infected eternity!!!
i was like you until i found out about this rom
sense 3.0
super smooth, just like sense 3.5 smooth
Thanks for replying, I should have said, GSM only, as i'm in the UK.
i'm loving warm rom right now. i'm on cdma, but they have a gsm version. hasn't been updated in a while, but latest nightly is amazing.
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i should probably try out eternity though.... so hard to theme but i hear its great
Hmmm, Eternity 3.0 isnt compatible with GSM? I know the 3.5 one is.
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I too would very much like a smooth 3.0 ROM. Obv would prefer sense 3.5 but I find there are too many bugs. Unfortunately I'm on gsm so there are not much options at the mo. Starting to wish I got a sensation (even with the lack of 1gb RAM)
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Warm TwoPointThree might be your best bet. It is also pretty smooth, but not quite as good as Eternity. You can however remove some of the 3D effect on the Rosie and make it just 2D and that makes it more smooth, the option to do that is in Warm Tweaks. Eternity also has the same thing in the same place called Eternity Tweaks.
I have the same problem looking for a smooth and stable GSM rom...and all sense 3.5 seem to have something not working.
Isn't the GSM version of InfectedROM Eternity a nightly sense 3.5 build? I tried it 2 days ago, battery went from 95% to 13% in 4-5 hours of stand by...and it wasn't system tunners fault.
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I too would very much like a smooth 3.0 ROM. Obv would prefer sense 3.5 but I find there are too many bugs. Unfortunately I'm on gsm so there are not much options at the mo. Starting to wish I got a sensation (even with the lack of 1gb RAM)
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The lack of ram isn't all that much in all honesty, 768MB is more than enough for the rom's that we're running.
Plus the amount of attention the sensation gets is staggering when you compare it to the 3vo, i too wish i would have got the XE, it's a stellar handset, at stock it's good, put ICS on it and it's blazing.
However, don't know the 3vo too much, if the right dev's pop over to this then i can see the evo being a beast, it's got the hardware, it's got 3d which not many phones can boast, it's also got a decent battery and nice screen too, plus i've dropped mine i dont' know how many times and it just bounces
ANYWAY, back to the rom, up until now, probably King Cobra is the best, although once i have all my apps installed and the rom has settled a bit, it's a bit clunky. Everything does work though, and it's themeable, which is always nice.
Wish we had coredroid man, crazy rom that on sense 3.
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Warm TwoPointThree might be your best bet. It is also pretty smooth, but not quite as good as Eternity. You can however remove some of the 3D effect on the Rosie and make it just 2D and that makes it more smooth, the option to do that is in Warm Tweaks. Eternity also has the same thing in the same place called Eternity Tweaks.
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Yea i tried warm rom quite a while ago and i seem to remember getting fc's, can't remember exactly what for, i might check it out.
I miss sense 3 plus i've never played a 3d game on my phone.
Sense 4 is where it's at tho, such a nice interface.
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I have the same problem looking for a smooth and stable GSM rom...and all sense 3.5 seem to have something not working.
Isn't the GSM version of InfectedROM Eternity a nightly sense 3.5 build? I tried it 2 days ago, battery went from 95% to 13% in 4-5 hours of stand by...and it wasn't system tunners fault.
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It is a nightly yea, which means that older releases are sometimes better than the newer ones, tried a few, but documentation on whats been good and whats not involves sifting through the many pages which make up the thread, not a bad rom tho.
Best batter life i was getting was with Mikrunny 1.11, got nearly two days on med - low usage clocked @ 1.18Ghz, no need for any more as it's smooth, it's just ur missing features like 3d gaming and it's not got a theme besides Phikal's which isn't complete, still a good theme tho.
What do you look for when you are downloading. A custom. Rom
What are some of the quality's that you would want/look for in an evo 3d Rom.
Cpu specs:
Firmware/kernel :
Graphics:
Etc:
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4g
3d
Stability
Stability, and something without sense.
Or a ROM that will turn my 3d into a kindle fire.
S3nt from my 3D wond3rland
3D
Stable
Fast
Good battery life
PG86100
Sense 3.5. Mikrunny is the cream of the crop.
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I just want an ICS ROM that works.
Something that is stable and can utilize my hardware without problems.
4g
3d
Stability
All Bloatware removed
customization
3D
4G
Customization
Speed
Stability
How much I can customize myself
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3d camera is working..
No bugs..
Smooth appearance..
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Obvious things like working data and WiFi. 3D and 4G mean nothing to me.
95% of themed ROMs look pretty terrible, so I usually refrain from those. The 5% includes Warm, Eternity, and SupraROM.
I lean more towards ICS these days, but the battery drain (even without bluetoothd) is pretty horrendous, and it's still not completely stable.
All of those things mixed together means that I'm really looking forward to data and WiFi on the Sense 4.0 port...
I'm just looking for an optimized rom which is either an optimized stock rom or an stable port with all features working.
Most important for me when I consider to use is that it has the essential parts working, if the 3D part is not working that is something I can understand, but I think its important to have that working to.
Because the 3D makes our device stand out from the crowd. Also an reason for choosing an custom rom is because the overclocks, because our devices have much more in them then the standard 1.2Ghz clock.
I look mainly for tweaks/optimizations that make the phone run faster, smoother, and get better battery life. I also love eye candy, but most of the themed roms look really cheesy IMO. Myn's Warm has always kept it classy and sexy, love the green/transparancy theme it's had since the debut on the Evo 4G. Definitely looking for stability and functionality though. I could care less about 3D (face it, it's a gimmick to show off to your friends once and never use it again), and 4G coverage is so spotty and useless indoors that it's hard to miss. Extra features are also a plus. So my favorite roms:
Warm 2.3: Sexy, classy, super fast/smooth, and everything works perfectly. Definitely the best Sense rom and I have been a fan of Myn's work since the early OG Evo days.
MIUI: Really fast, different look and feel, different features like pop up text messages, and great battery life. Although I do have to use LauncherPro because I can't stand not having an app drawer with all my icons littered across my home screens.
CM9: I WANTTTTT. ICS is freaking awesome and I love it but due to it being in the alpha stages I can't use it as a daily. I tried, but data dropping in and out, wifi connection issues, frequent force closes, no camera, and horrific battery life keep me from using it till development progresses further.
4G
3D
Camera working properly
A little customization is nice
Don't really care much about OC/UV
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Fully functional 3D
Working 4G
..and just like good performance
I look for a modified rosie I hate the arched rosie Chase its all jagged. Other than that just data and WiFi. I can't wait for the data on the sense 4.0 port
Bang from my Shooter!!!
1) Everything working. Seems a little ridiculous to me to run a rom that breaks otherwise working features just to say you're running it...
2) Aesthetically pleasing. Eternity, MIUI, and Warm all got it right. Seems like most of the rest just throw in highly contrasting colors (read: ugly) and icons that all look almost identical and call it a day...
3) Tweaks and modifications. It has to be able to do something that stock can't.
4) No Bloat. Not even a little bit.
5) Dev support. This is kind of a throw back to #1. We have some amazing devs around here making already great roms faster and smoother. But then again, I have seen some great ideas just get abandoned after a while.
Truly is ICS better than Gingerbread in real life [on the EVO 3D]? I find myself flashing multiple ICS roms hoping to gain the smoothness of GB but I just can't find it.
I know the features ICS brings are great:
- Chrome support
- Better sleep management
- Better system/data management (cant confirm this)
- 32 bit color by default (cant confirm this)
** http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
But one thing GB has that ICS doesn't is complete capability with our phones. We were able to make GB fly and I feel since Sprint is dragging their feet to release the update, we will have some time before ICS flies like GB. By then Jelly Bean will be running. It's a vicious cycle.
I am all for trying out new software, I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. However, for example, when playing Max Payne on ICS, the joystick would stop responding or the framerate will drop dramatically. That never happened on GB.
So my question is, whats your reason for running ICS on your EVO 3D? It is because its the latest and greatest or is there a certain feature I am missing? Because I am starting not to see a benefit.
**Disclamer: I read a couple of threads related to this but this subject was never expanded on. Mods feel free to close if you think this is redundant.**
I run it because I'm yet to have 1 problem that's not a known ics general issue.
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For cdma phones yes, the 2.17 base was an excelent base for GB roms. Us poor GSM users had a crap base which when even overclocked was probably still slower than the current ICS.. for example low 2000 quadrants and 24fps nenamark
I just wish there was a way to use the 2.17 base roms on GSM, I would certainly use it. :good:
ICS runs fine on my phone. And I'm easily getting at least 24 hours per battery, as opposed to 12 hours with GB.
ICS definitely has better battery management. However, for me personally, I don't mind having less battery with more performance since I have multiple batteries I can just swap out. A perfect balance is what I look to achieve. ICS beats GB in terms of battery life but I have to give the best performance title to GB.
Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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There hasn't been an official ICS release? (For CDMA at least). Generally its been a 90 day or so time frame for source release. We should see GSM source in the next couple of months. While HTC isn't the fastest at releasing they haven't ever failed to release source that I'm aware of.
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Again this is for the GSM version, it may not be true for CDMA phones as i doubt you have one to compare...
I myself believe the fact that their phones run worse on ICS then ours because the same thing was happening to us on GB...
I think for me gb gave me problems with youtube....always skipping in the middle. But going to ics has fixed that. Everything is smoother. Battery life to me isn't much of a problem since I have about two extra batteries.
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ICS runs way better than GB did. side by side comparisons of Eternity 1.4.2 vs inbREDed 5.2 verify that for me in an instant.
apps load faster, menus react quicker, etc. I'll never go back to GB and can't wait for an Anthrax kernel for this.
I do wish that the Sense 4 ROM's had 3D and 4G though, because those things run really, really nice.. *sigh*
Interesting feedback, thank you everyone. This is definitely "food for thought".
Whats your feedback on game performance? I usually find myself playing one of the Rockstar or Gameloft games I have purchased and I feel ICS framerates drops much more than GBs.
I feel that since GB's kernel source has been released, devs were able to tweak it for maximum performance under heavy load vs a stock kernel which would be somewhat conservative on performance.
And yes I do have a CDMA version but input from GSM users are welcomed.
Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
I really wish we had a stable build of CM7 for CDMA to play with, htc holding the source on ICS kernels has made the ICS dev basically come to a crawl and it saddens me lol... My old Evo4G had a new ROM out everyday it seemed and IMO CM9 was more stable there than on the 3D. Nothing against the wonderful devs here as it's not their fault htc is being stingy with source.
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
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Many who use cm9 will lol
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Do not compair roms just on benchmarks... ICS is waaaayy better than gb even without overclocking. Solo many more features in ICS made it impossible for me to go back to GB
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I don't actually have an evo, but I've been using an HTC hd2 for a long time, until yesterday.
I was running the latest ics version mostly just to be on the bleeding edge of technology. Their were a few things I really liked more and reasons I wanted to run it because of, but mostly i wanted ics because it was new.
We also had gingerbread roms that were blazing fast and worked almost perfectly. In all honesty they were amazing.
Then ics came along. Many of the drivers were not there for our device and the devs start working like crazy to fix them or write them, just whatever needed to be done.
However even to this day ics does not run as well as gb did. It is very stable, not a lot of fc's but it still has some. In reality its just not yet the same quality gb was.
I think that until HTC releases the kernal source like for the evo and other phones that ics will not run as good as gb. In no way is this in offense to the devs. I just know that its hard to match a companies time and man power when your doing something for free.
In short, unless their is a lot of official support I do not think ics runs as well as gb either.
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