i need a break people are complaing to much and im getting tierd of it for doing all this for everyone to complain and trash talk about me.
Im tried of this **** if your wondering why i locked all my threads in developemnt i maybe open them in a few days idk...
Xboarder56,
xboarder56 said:
i need a break people are complaing to much and im getting tierd of it for doing all this for everyone to complain and trash talk about me.
Im tried of this **** if your wondering why i locked all my threads in developemnt i maybe open them in a few days idk...
Xboarder56,
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Just kick back and relax! Focus on school. You do this for free and it is awesome. I never personally used your ROMs but I bet they are good. Hope to see you soon and hopefully people stop acting like a$$holes
Hopefully mods will clean up the scum, so once he's back there wont be any disrespectful troll *****es left... gl X
Let me just start by saying that the more well known you are the more fans you will have. Unfortunately the other end of the coin is that you will also have more critics. Always remember that you have more fans than critics. If you take care of your fans they will always take care of you in return. Unfortunately you cannot take care of them all right away. The higher the demand for service support adds a lot of unnecessary and undesired stress. I understand this and I think that most others do as well. Take what time you need xboarder and we'll see you back when you're ready. Take your time. Turn off your private messaging function and gtalk. I do it everyonce in a while too just to regain my sanity.
As for everyone else, it's difficult to express emotions via text on a web forum. Please always try to be mindful that there are sometimes other possible interpretations of what you say. A harmless sentence that you intended to be a sarcastic joke can cause a developer to leave, flaming in a thread and even possibly disciplinary actions.
Speaking of... I should warn that this thread should be used as a "support xboarder thread" and not a "criticize xboarder thread" so if I see it going that way I will close this thread and issue infractions accordingly.
Another note, xboarder closed all threads that he had opened. This also means that support for the device will be limited because uninformed members will not be able to post a reply to the existing threads. I am sure it is inevitable but I don't want to see a dozen new threads popping up asking basic questions about roms or recoveries. So I encourage everyone to search and read prior to posting a new thread. This should be common practice anyway... unfortunately we all know how attractive that
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on the top right of the post in question. I'll be alerted to the post and will look into it as soon as I can.
By the way, if anyone start flaming in THIS thread I'll be kicking their @$$ and taking names! Then giving their names to other guys @$$ I kick!
Thanks for your time.
The amaze is now dead hehe. Let's see What there is to complain about now. Enjoy your break x.
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For all you people asking why you get flamed, this is why!!! We cannot afford to lose xboarder! Don't ask to why the other phones have stuff we don't have, don't ask for ETA's, Don't ask for ports. Everything here is provided for free. If you really want to see a rom ported maybe you should pay 100 bucks to xboarder, then he might be willing to listen to you and your requests about ICS, AOSP, sense 3.6. Making a rom is not like making a top raman.
on that not, x just have some time to yourself, you practically running 90 percent of the dev sections and answering questions and answering stupid questions and being asked for ETA's ports etc. I understand.
It's a right shame it got to the point where a well respected developer decided to pack up shop for a while. I assume everyone who had less than kind words for X knows who they are and realizes that the lad was doing this for free all the while keeping up with school, life, etc. There's no need to harass anyone around here, let alone the standout developer on a device which has a rather small community as it is.
As it stands, I don't blame X for going on a little sabbatical and hope that he returns feeling better, all the best to you buddy!
I was going out for a few hours and got back kinda late after Binary closed the other thread in which some son of a ***** like and asshole trolls, whom, obviously did not read about NO ETA and acted like a ****ing kid ...
Take a break as long as you need X.
That's what happens when lazy people take good things for granted.
I actually kinda like the idea of having this time to reflect on what we value most. Plus I believe that xboarder was getting kind of irritated and overwhelmed by all the demands for service and requests. As a former developer myself I can relate how stressful it can be. I refuse to develop for the Amaze for this very reason. As a developer you can get a very bitter attitude with some of the demand. As a moderator you can get very bitter with all the responsiblities you have to take on. Just imagine having both! I don't think that I could develop anything like xboarder has though. My point is the overwhelming demand for support, neverending e-mails, gtalk conversaions, hate mail, thread replies, requests and criticism is very rarely worth the very few donations received. Of course this isn't (and shouldn't) be about donations. However keep in mind that this 16 year old is missing out on a lot in his young life just to please the community and it'll be great to afford to have a good time everyonce in a while. An even better way to support him is by giving him the peace and quite that he needs right now.
Take as long as you need buddy, we'll be right here
I look at this problem on a different perspective. I think there are some guy that more of a jealous when X got so many fans around here. I follows his Google+ and saw his proof that the CM team were wrong - that's kind of hurting their (CM team) pride quite a bit though (truth always hurts isn't it?).
And then someone else started to provoked him just to got him angry. Look at the name of those who provoked him by asking ETA on the ICS, they all new to the Amaze forum. I'd bet that some of them are clones from banned nick - or at least, friends of those hatred loosers
I am totally agreed with X's re-action on both working alone rather than working with trashes, and packed his stuff, lock his thread. Heck! I bet that guys like Revolution can do **** about the Dev'ing
idk... i think we should still be able to discuss things in those threads ..... like almost every dev thread that was opened in the Amaze section was from him... so now we can't talk about any of those things because he needs a break....that don't make sense.. might as well del the Amaze sub-forum while your at it..... If X needs a break cause some ppl are tools, then by all mean please take a break X and regroup... you can't listen to ppl's BS and let it get to you, you have put yourself in the position were so many ppl look up to you because you are behind almost everything in this sub-forum... but common, we should still be able to discuss things on topic about those topics in those threads... hate me and flame me if you want but thats just my 2 cents...
greaaaat..... going to sgs2 now.
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idk... i think we should still be able to discuss things in those threads ..... like almost every dev thread that was opened in the Amaze section was from him... so now we can't talk about any of those things because he needs a break....that don't make sense.. might as well del the Amaze sub-forum while your at it..... If X needs a break cause some ppl are tools, then by all mean please take a break X and regroup... you can't listen to ppl's BS and let it get to you, you have put yourself in the position were so many ppl look up to you because you are behind almost everything in this sub-forum... but common, we should still be able to discuss things on topic about those topics in those threads... hate me and flame me if you want but thats just my 2 cents...
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Well as the OP of those threads he reserves the right to close them if he wants.
I'll allow the new threads in General only if the question hasn't already been answered and can't be found by the search function.
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greaaaat..... going to sgs2 now.
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Okay. Thanks for visiting. Good luck and tell them we said hi. You will be missed.
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idk... i think we should still be able to discuss things in those threads ..... like almost every dev thread that was opened in the Amaze section was from him... so now we can't talk about any of those things because he needs a break....that don't make sense.. might as well del the Amaze sub-forum while your at it..... If X needs a break cause some ppl are tools, then by all mean please take a break X and regroup... you can't listen to ppl's BS and let it get to you, you have put yourself in the position were so many ppl look up to you because you are behind almost everything in this sub-forum... but common, we should still be able to discuss things on topic about those topics in those threads... hate me and flame me if you want but thats just my 2 cents...
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Actually it make sense in a way like a protest. Like XDA and Wikipedia shot down last week.
Necessarily to raise awareness. To let peoples knows who has been vandalized and destroyed the whole community.
X will be back, sooner or later. That's his passion and he did it not because of you or me, not because of fans or haters. It's simply his love and life and perhaps, his future career.
At least for me, from now on, I will put several names on this forum on my ignore list - which means I don't read their trash, I don't helps if they need helps (if I am able to helps). Boycott them. That's the result from X's re-action.
Boycott the trashes!!!
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greaaaat..... going to sgs2 now.
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life without you won't be the same anymore ...
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Actually it make sense in a way like a protest. Like XDA and Wikipedia shot down last week.
Necessarily to raise awareness. To let peoples knows who has been vandalized and destroyed the whole community.
X will be back, sooner or later. That's his passion and he did it not because of you or me, not because of fans or haters. It's simply his love and life and perhaps, his future career.
At least for me, from now on, I will put several names on this forum on my ignore list - which means I don't read their trash, I don't helps if they need helps (if I am able to helps). Boycott them. That's the result from X's re-action.
Boycott the trashes!!!
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the ones talking **** are profiles opened recently with only 30posts or so and I do not know why but I have the feeling it is pretty much 1 person talking **** but posting from different profiles, or might be a couple which know each other.
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greaaaat..... going to sgs2 now.
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Uhhh, ok. Lol bye
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greaaaat..... going to sgs2 now.
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So I guess if xboarder leaves then you leave.
Please xboarder come back! We can't lose pinnkgabe! We'll do anything to have pinkgabe back! We need pinkgabe!
Seriously... you're just begging to be flamed and I would rather you not be in the forums with comments like those. So... don't let the door hit you.
Go have some fun , hope you will be back, most of us enjoy all your roms and support. I only hope you won't give up because of those few individuals that caused this. I would like to thank you for everything you have done for the amaze community and can only beg you to return, thank you!
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greaaaat..... going to sgs2 now.
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Thank you for posting nice farewell message in this post
After get some status bar AMOLED burn-in, you will be pleased.
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Take a good rest. X, one thing you did wrong is that you are doing excellent job without rest and waiting time that some people are now treating you like a their own employee. And that is really rude! They need to learn that they will not achieve anything by bashing on you. You did your best, X!
Again, take a long break as you like.
They will learn something after you gone.
Related
Since S-OFF hacking is out of my realm entirely, I don't have any concept of why the Rezound hasn't been unlocked yet (and every other decent HTC device seems to have been), but I can't help but wonder if it isn't just because the right person doesn't have one in hand.
If you're a dev that thinks you can help but don't have a phone to work with, PM me so we can discuss how I might be able to help.
If you're not a well known Dev here on XDA or AllDroid, please provide some references and/or credentials.
Most HTC phones did not get s-off in 3-4 weeks , and that is how long this phone has been out. Need to calm down.
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Really? I do?
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Need to calm down.
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^-- Seems a bit excited to me.
Just trying to offer some assistance there buddy. How did your post help or contribute to development or this community?
Maybe you should take a deep breath and think twice before hitting submit next time.
People like you are why I have so few posts here despite how long I've been around.
His post seemed fine to me. He obviously read your's. Now read his. You said you had no idea why it was not rooted yet? He said NONE have been done that quickly at all. So calm down and let it happen. The developers have the phone. It takes time. I am sure you want to help, however your reply to a perfectly calm and reasonable reply makes me think I should also reiterate. Calm down, let it happen. I would anticipate since so many posts have listed why this one will/should take longer, that even if it was being worked on in a hurry it will be at least another 3-4 weeks minimum.
Like you said yourself " I don't have any concept why theRezound hasn't been unlocked yet". The phone has been out less than a month. Some HTC phones have taken several months to get s-off,they will do it as soon as they can. If you had read this forum you would have seen your offers have already been made weeks ago. I did not say anything mean to you, just said calm down. The last thing the Devs want is to be pressured.
Nobody is putting you down, just saying be patient.
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Why Do Threads Constantly Spiral Out Of Control At This Site...? (Rhetorical Question)
We're Adults Here. Let's Act Like It And When Someone Writes Something To Flame Or Whatever Ignore Them. I Really Miss The "Old" Android Community Where Anyone And Everyone Was Helping The Fellow Member Out.
I Am Pleading With Everyone Who Reads This, Educate And Make The Fellow Member Knowledgeable Of What He/She Requests Instead Of Writing Degrading Statements. (Even If It's Absurd Or Been Asked/Answered A Million Times)
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Literally LOL'D....
But in all seriousness, s-off is being worked on. I'm in the same boat being out of the programming world.
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Literally LOL'D....
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Same here
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Let's not get flame happy in here guys.
And there have been numerous other threads on s-off and devs working on it. I know there is at least one still open.
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Why Do Threads Constantly Spiral Out Of Control At This Site...? (Rhetorical Question)
We're Adults Here. Let's Act Like It And When Someone Writes Something To Flame Or Whatever Ignore Them. I Really Miss The "Old" Android Community Where Anyone And Everyone Was Helping The Fellow Member Out.
I Am Pleading With Everyone Who Reads This, Educate And Make The Fellow Member Knowledgeable Of What He/She Requests Instead Of Writing Degrading Statements. (Even If It's Absurd Or Been Asked/Answered A Million Times)
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why do you capitalize every word? lol it's so hard/weird for me to read that
Xtreme Outcast said:
Why Do Threads Constantly Spiral Out Of Control At This Site...? (Rhetorical Question)
We're Adults Here. Let's Act Like It And When Someone Writes Something To Flame Or Whatever Ignore Them. I Really Miss The "Old" Android Community Where Anyone And Everyone Was Helping The Fellow Member Out.
I Am Pleading With Everyone Who Reads This, Educate And Make The Fellow Member Knowledgeable Of What He/She Requests Instead Of Writing Degrading Statements. (Even If It's Absurd Or Been Asked/Answered A Million Times)
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+1000000!!!
I'm with the OP. I have no rooting/S-Off knowledge but if it's a matter of making sure donations get to the right people to encourage work, I would like to know where to send some love
Will this be another Revolutionary crack???? I sent them a hefty donation for getting my 3D opened up....
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I'm with the OP. I have no rooting/S-Off knowledge but if it's a matter of making sure donations get to the right people to encourage work, I would like to know where to send some love
Will this be another Revolutionary crack???? I sent them a hefty donation for getting my 3D opened up....
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Suposedly they are working on it as well.
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Donations
I'm pretty excited at S-Off coming (whenever that is).
I donated when S-Off hit the incredible, and plan to do the same for the Rezound.
It's crazy the amount of dedication and time these people put into their phones for us.
Much love to the Devs.
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why do you capitalize every word? lol it's so hard/weird for me to read that
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Yeah, that's even worse than the whole "There, their, and they're" thing.
It's one thing to misuse one of those in a typed statement because you may not know the difference. But the capitalization thing is not so much a grammatical issue as it is a perceptual issue. I think it actually affects how the message comes across. The reader might take it as a little too self-important, or know-it-all snotty.
Am I the only one who feels that way?
I think it is amusing all the people whining (would you like some cheese?) about no S-OFF for the Rezound. How long has the Wildfire-S been out? It still doesn't have S-OFF? Money obviously isn't a surefire incentive.
Sucks because if it doesn't get unlocked soon I'm skipping it. That wildfire thread just scared the hell outta me.
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I think it is amusing all the people whining (would you like some cheese?) about no S-OFF for the Rezound. How long has the Wildfire-S been out? It still doesn't have S-OFF? Money obviously isn't a surefire incentive.
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I hope the Rezound doesnt suffer a fate like the Wildfire-S.
I just looked at the Wildfire-S's specs:
320 x 480 pixels, 3.2 inches screen
600 mhz
512 MB ROM, 512 MB RAM (418 MB user-available)
5 mp camera
I don't want to say it doesnt have S-Off due to lack of enthusiasm. But, the Rezound at least doubles most of the Wildfire's specs, and maybe that will be enough to get more people on board to help with the S-Off?
Who knows. I'll just keep a positive attitude, and checkin the boards daily. I wish I had the technical knowledge and time to lend a hand, but my fiance already thinks that when we get married, that my phone will be my best man
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Really? I do?
^-- Seems a bit excited to me.
Just trying to offer some assistance there buddy. How did your post help or contribute to development or this community?
Maybe you should take a deep breath and think twice before hitting submit next time.
People like you are why I have so few posts here despite how long I've been around.
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No, the problem is it has been beat to death here that the s-off just doesn't magically appear and that it will take time and patience. The DInc didn't have s-off for what seemed like forever! And not every other HTC phone that is brandy new has had s-off right away either.
Just need to lay low and wait for things to happen. Your best recourse might be to contact those who are known to be working on it and see if they would accept any help/donations etc.
Hopefully this will not be closed or bashed! I need some help here, I'm trying to decide between the GS3 or jumping ship to the iPhone 5. I'm disappointed in the iPad, feel like I will feel locked down with the iPhone but I'm ready for a change... I feel like the Galaxy won't be that big of a change for me usability wise, just performance and hardware upgrades so I'm also interested in anyones experiences with Jean Bean ROMs for the EVO 3Ds to make it most like the Galaxy at least for me to decide about the jump to iOS. Hope I can get some help and not just guys in their mother's basements trying to start an argument. Thanks in advance guys!
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Hopefully this will not be closed or bashed! I need some help here, I'm trying to decide between the GS3 or jumping ship to the iPhone 5. I'm disappointed in the iPad, feel like I will feel locked down with the iPhone but I'm ready for a change... I feel like the Galaxy won't be that big of a change for me usability wise, just performance and hardware upgrades so I'm also interested in anyones experiences with Jean Bean ROMs for the EVO 3Ds to make it most like the Galaxy at least for me to decide about the jump to iOS. Hope I can get some help and not just guys in their mother's basements trying to start an argument. Thanks in advance guys!
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I don't know much about the iPhone 5, I've experienced iOS6 myself (obviously not much different from iOS5) and it seems a bit smoother. I honestly thought the GS3 was sub-par build quality wise. it felt too lightweight and slipped through my hands easily. I would google both and make a comparison for yourself. Because posting the same thread 3 times, once in the development section trying to start a flame war, and then twice here, is going to get you infracted from hell. I'm not a mod, but I can tell through these course of events you won't last here very long if you keep these kinda actions up. Not trying to be an ass, just giving you a friendly heads-up so you don't get in too much trouble. Hope I helped a little bit
I don't consider asking you (even with the "p" word) to read the forum rules and post in the correct forum "bashing", but now that you have I will try to help.
Here's a pretty unbiased review of the two phones, and here's a side-by-side feature comparison. And one more review with some sample pics from each device.
As far as simulating the SGS3 on an Evo 3D goes, that will be pretty hard to do since Samsung uses TouchWiz and HTC uses Sense, but if you want to try there is some information on getting TouchWiz for the Evo 3D in this post. The TouchWiz launcher on top of one of the CM10 ROM's in the Development Forum may be the closest you are going to get to simulation of the SGS3, but there are so many other differences that you probably would be better off going to a Sprint store or BestBuy and trying the real phones hands on. Since you can't replace iOS on an the iPhone with another operating system, it's probably best to compare the two in their stock configurations.
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beneath-a-burning-turtle said:
I don't know much about the iPhone 5, I've experienced iOS6 myself (obviously not much different from iOS5) and it seems a bit smoother. I honestly thought the GS3 was sub-par build quality wise. it felt too lightweight and slipped through my hands easily. I would google both and make a comparison for yourself. Because posting the same thread 3 times, once in the development section trying to start a flame war, and then twice here, is going to get you infracted from hell. I'm not a mod, but I can tell through these course of events you won't last here very long if you keep these kinda actions up. Not trying to be an ass, just giving you a friendly heads-up so you don't get in too much trouble. Hope I helped a little bit
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You did help thanks... I posted more than once because different crowds read different sections and I wanted the view point from all of them. The mod is pretty much saying just find out for yourself. I am sick of the way my EVO 3D works even with a replacement, I work in web/media in sports and I use my phone a lot and have to decide quickly I don't have time or all the knowledge to test every ROM myself LOL
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I don't consider asking you (even with the "p" word) to read the forum rules and post in the correct forum "bashing", but now that you have I will try to help.
Here's a pretty unbiased review of the two phones, and here's a side-by-side feature comparison. And one more review with some sample pics from each device.
As far as simulating the SGS3 on an Evo 3D goes, that will be pretty hard to do since Samsung uses TouchWiz and HTC uses Sense, but if you want to try there is some information on getting TouchWiz for the Evo 3D in this post. The TouchWiz launcher on top of one of the CM10 ROM's in the Development Forum may be the closest you are going to get to simulation of the SGS3, but there are so many other differences that you probably would be better off going to a Sprint store or BestBuy and trying the real phones hands on. Since you can't replace iOS on an the iPhone with another operating system, it's probably best to compare the two in their stock configurations.
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Thanks I appreciate the help, wasn't really lashing out directly at you, I'm sorry but like I said in the other reply I depend on my phone and the apps for my living so I need to decide something soon.
Well also, you should also realize, that xda is a community of over 4,000,000 users, and that the mods already have enough to deal with, and the last thing they need is a triple post on top of their day. A few minutes of patience is all you need before you get an answer. There are several people who check the q&a forums very often (ramjet, flashallthetime, coal686, and myself, just to name a few) and its not like you won't get an answer, its only when you post the same thing over and over that irritates people, especially when you violate the rules on purpose to try and get the answer you want (thread in the dev forum). So like I said, just post once, and check back every so often, and you'll guaranteed get your answer. Obey the rules, that's all any of us here on xda of of people
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What I would suggest is go to each individual forum to which phone you would like as your new daily drive and poke around to what actual users are saying, as for iphone 5, I would admit to being anti apple. Issues with maps on ios 6 is a huge issue, it could spell the downward spiral for the iphone?
( Don't ask me for help, as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh!!!)
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Well also, you should also realize, that xda is a community of over 4,000,000 users, and that the mods already have enough to deal with, and the last thing they need is a triple post on top of their day. A few minutes of patience is all you need before you get an answer. There are several people who check the q&a forums very often (ramjet, flashallthetime, coal686, and myself, just to name a few) and its not like you won't get an answer, its only when you post the same thing over and over that irritates people, especially when you violate the rules on purpose to try and get the answer you want (thread in the dev forum). So like I said, just post once, and check back every so often, and you'll guaranteed get your answer. Obey the rules, that's all any of us here on xda of of people
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I admin websites with more users than that and I've never had that to be a "problem" I don't get you guys here LOL suppose to be here to help and interact but anyway I ask anyone please do not post anything on this thread unless it is to answer my questions, thanks!
Go to Q & A in the stickies under ask mod any question and that gives you some answers.it is a very hard decision to go with any new phone, research on any forum is your best bet, actual users will have both points of views, bad and good, pro's and con's
( Don't ask me for help, as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh!!!)
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I admin websites with more users than that and I've never had that to be a "problem" I don't get you guys here LOL suppose to be here to help and interact but anyway I ask anyone please do not post anything on this thread unless it is to answer my questions, thanks!
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Would you mind linking a couple of the websites with user forums that you admin so we can take a look? Maybe we can learn something from seeing how user questions and issues are addressed on other sites.
I know this post doesn't directly address your questions in the OP, but I've already given you as much information as I have on that, so maybe you wouldn't mind sharing something that might benefit the rest of us?
Thanks in advance.
ramjet73
Actually here is my full response to u since u insisted on calling me out in a public forum
No I'm saying learn to search learn try things out on your own. Make up ur own mind on what's best for you. Ask for help when your stuck.
Your saying...spoon feed me everything I want so I don't spend my time looking for myself and oh btw I'm gonna ask a question in the dev section cause it'll get seen more there. Go look in the dev section. How many question threads do u see in there. Did you look at the stickies. The one that reads "must read before u create a thread" or did u think u r special and not subject to the rule.
Obviously you thought that your above them cause you told people in ur thread not to get butt hurt cause u posted a thread where people would see it.
So who makes sense here. On xda we do not spoon feed members. We help members that run into issue. We encourage members to seek out answers on their own. There is a ton of info to get educated on. Use it. Then contribute. Its not that hard.
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But however u wish to spin it is fine by me
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ramjet73 said:
Would you mind linking a couple of the websites with user forums that you admin so we can take a look? Maybe we can learn something from seeing how user questions and issues are addressed on other sites.
I know this post doesn't directly address your questions in the OP, but I've already given you as much information as I have on that, so maybe you wouldn't mind sharing something that might benefit the rest of us?
Thanks in advance.
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They are sites in NASCAR and Music Industry for different stars, was just saying if thats all I had time to do was pick about small things like that my life would be so much easier lol
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Actually here is my full response to u since u insisted on calling me out in a public forum
No I'm saying learn to search learn try things out on your own. Make up ur own mind on what's best for you. Ask for help when your stuck.
Your saying...spoon feed me everything I want so I don't spend my time looking for myself and oh btw I'm gonna ask a question in the dev section cause it'll get seen more there. Go look in the dev section. How many question threads do u see in there. Did you look at the stickies. The one that reads "must read before u create a thread" or did u think u r special and not subject to the rule.
Obviously you thought that your above them cause you told people in ur thread not to get butt hurt cause u posted a thread where people would see it.
So who makes sense here. On xda we do not spoon feed members. We help members that run into issue. We encourage members to seek out answers on their own. There is a ton of info to get educated on. Use it. Then contribute. Its not that hard.
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Lets keep this thread on topic I'm pretty sure thats a rule somewhere... spoon fed or not you guys should be nice and help educate someone especially if they are thinking about leaving android. Going through everything on your own is overwhelming and contradicting so many time especially when you don't have time to. What would be you opinion, you really haven't even clearly given it, I'm sorry if I have overlooked that. What do you think I should do if I am sick of the HTC experience, give the new EVO a try or go to GS3? who knows you might even also like the iPhone?
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Lets keep this thread on topic I'm pretty sure thats a rule somewhere... spoon fed or not you guys should be nice and help educate someone especially if they are thinking about leaving android. Going through everything on your own is overwhelming and contradicting so many time especially when you don't have time to. What would be you opinion, you really haven't even clearly given it, I'm sorry if I have overlooked that. What do you think I should do if I am sick of the HTC experience, give the new EVO a try or go to GS3? who knows you might even also like the iPhone?
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We answered your question in the first 3 or 4 posts. We told you to try each phone for yourself, and do some snooping around and see what you want to try for the EVO 3D. I don't know what else you want us to tell you. And side note, just because you admin other forums with more members, it doesn't give you the right to be a **** on our forums. Nobody wants to help someone who sets themselves higher than everyone else. We answered your question. Try each phone, and look around in the forums and decide for yourself. There's not much else our community can suggest
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We answered your question in the first 3 or 4 posts. We told you to try each phone for yourself, and do some snooping around and see what you want to try for the EVO 3D. I don't know what else you want us to tell you. And side note, just because you admin other forums with more members, it doesn't give you the right to be a **** on our forums. Nobody wants to help someone who sets themselves higher than everyone else. We answered your question. Try each phone, and look around in the forums and decide for yourself. There's not much else our community can suggest
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They are just site not forums and I wasn't trying the be a ****... I was just suggested to try the upcoming Note 2 that would fit my situation better, suggestions and insights like that is what I am looking for.
Again u want to be spoon fed. We don't do that here. Again search for your answers. I understand ur time is precious but ur not the center of the universe. Everyone's time is precious
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Ok after reading all 2 pages, I think I feel cheated.......I will NEVER get my time back! LOL
allofthepeople, here's a suggestion! (hopefully you read all over it and your ADD doesn't kick in)
If you're going to come into a public forum like this and expect people to help you then it helps to follow the rules.
1. Going back and forward with a moderator, will get you NO WHERE!! I don't know how many idiots like yourself I see a day that think they will win an argument with a moderator. Not saying you can't reason with them BUT the way you're acting, is not going to happen.
2. AGAIN, just in case you didn't read #1...This ex-iPhone user, junior high school **** where you think the world owes you something attitude is getting old. Follow the rules and stop geting butt hurt about everything that happens on the internet....GROW UP!
3. Take time from your superstar job (media/sports aka camera man) and go into every thread like the rest of us and decide what ROM is best for you. Also there's this thing called YouTube......you can watch videos there and see as much reviews as you want about any phone.
4. At the end of the day, XDA doesn't need yet another thread from yet another self entitled member asking what's the best ROM or what phone should I get. 6 months to a year when you decide "I don't like this phone" you're going to be the one stuck with it, SO why do you think our opinion should matter??
Oh and if you want this SGS3 feel or whatever.....go find Devil Toast (CM9) and download the add-ons and launcher here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701961 and enjoy!
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I see you're a bit of a spammer and maybe have a reading problem (most likely that ADD kicking in) because you opened up 2 threads before this, both of which got closed down.....consider yourself lucky that the moderators haven't sent you on vacation I've seen people banned for less!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1928891
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Mazda said:
Ok after reading all 2 pages, I think I feel cheated.......I will NEVER get my time back! LOL
allofthepeople, here's a suggestion! (hopefully you read all over it and your ADD doesn't kick in)
If you're going to come into a public forum like this and expect people to help you then it helps to follow the rules.
1. Going back and forward with a moderator, will get you NO WHERE!! I don't know how many idiots like yourself I see a day that think they will win an argument with a moderator. Not saying you can't reason with them BUT the way you're acting, is not going to happen.
2. AGAIN, just in case you didn't read #1...This ex-iPhone user, junior high school **** where you think the world owes you something attitude is getting old. Follow the rules and stop geting butt hurt about everything that happens on the internet....GROW UP!
3. Take time from your superstar job (media/sports aka camera man) and go into every thread like the rest of us and decide what ROM is best for you. Also there's this thing called YouTube......you can watch videos there and see as much reviews as you want about any phone.
4. At the end of the day, XDA doesn't need yet another thread from yet another self entitled member asking what's the best ROM or what phone should I get. 6 months to a year when you decide "I don't like this phone" you're going to be the one stuck with it, SO why do you think our opinion should matter??
Oh and if you want this SGS3 feel or whatever.....go find Devil Toast (CM9) and download the add-ons and launcher here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701961 and enjoy!
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Could have just said the last part lol and I'm not an ex-iPhone user, never had one thats the point. I am not the one getting butt hurt lol I have read articles and watched videos. Was just trying to get a consensus from supposed educated people who might have had the same experiences I did and could give a little more light on it than I found in the other posts but I guess thats being "spoon fed". Please people stop trying to argue with me and if you don't like my thread then don't reply!!!!!!!
actually im gonna close this thread as the question has been answered and the thread is non longer needed. This is your last warning to listen to what a moderator tells you.
I've had some time to cool down and gather my thoughts. I've realized I've acted very childish and immature these past few days. I want to personally apologize to synergy, rlaselle and all of team codefire. I realize we may have different opinions on things but that is no excuse for the way I acted. I am sincerely sorry to all if you in this community for not being the leader that an RC is supposed to be. I hope you guys can forgive me and move on past this whole thing. You have my word I will no longer be involved in pointless drama.
Synergy, rlaselle and anyone else who worked on this kernel.....you guys are far more talented than I will ever be and you guys have done a great thing for this community.
Thanks for listening.
-Kyle
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Jk I commend you good sir for taking the high road. XDA needs more of this :thumbup::thumbup: :good:
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Glad to see this, and glad to be a lurker in what's shaping up to be a great community. Thanks, sk8.
I'm glad to have this device and be part of this community. You guys hold our Optimus G family together even through arguments and squabbles you guys are doing a lot for everyone with this device and we appreciate it. It's easy to forget there are people behind these ROMs and tools and mods. If I could buy you all a beer I would and I fully intend to when I get the funds. I won't forget every root method, ROM, app, tweak, program, mod, or helpful post I've had the pleasure of using on this particular forum. You guys just need to keep on keepin on and do what you do best for this community. Everything else aside, you are all awesome and we're lucky to have you. Thank you.
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Out of all the forums I have seen I have never seen anyone publicly apologize, admit they were wrong and talk them selves down. That's very mature. You are willing to forget the past and move on with the future hopefully you all can now work together and get some more things done.
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It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong and a bigger man to make that admission so publicly. Kudos to you, Sk8.
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That was awesome sk8! I really hope synergy and team codefire see this. And by the way ur talents are unimaginable also. your 3.021 kernal was great work, your cwm is the best ive ever seen so thank you and i doubt anyone was ever even upset with u bro.... but thanks for the appology.
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I have lost count of the number of ROMS I have flashed on my last 3 phones.
All have been good- I can easily say that I have not ever been more pleased than I am now with the work that you and houstonn have contributed to this new and growing community.
Know that I and countless others are aware that your work speaks volumes about your dedication to providing only the best for everyone and that we collectively stand behind you as a sign of our appreciation for the long hours and hard work you give to the community.
synergye, no doubt your work is incredible as well.
sk8erwitskil has made a public apology.
I challenge you to step up and make a public acceptance - for the benefit of all.
I am not asking because I am a RC, I am asking because it is the right thing to do- for us all.
Regards,
Pony
Pony Express said:
I have lost count of the number of ROMS I have flashed on my last 3 phones.
All have been good- I can easily say that I have not ever been more pleased than I am now with the work that you and houstonn have contributed to this new and growing community.
Know that I and countless others are aware that your work speaks volumes about your dedication to providing only the best for everyone and that we collectively stand behind you as a sign of our appreciation for the long hours and hard work you give to the community.
synergye, no doubt your work is incredible as well.
sk8erwitskil has made a public apology.
I challenge you to step up and make a public acceptance - for the benefit of all.
I am not asking because I am a RC, I am asking because it is the right thing to do- for us all.
Regards,
Pony
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well said pony!
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Pony, thank you for your post.
I would like to add, that synergy is just as responsible for what went down. I think some humility from both sides would greatly advance our community. We have already seen one member step up. Unfortunately, it seems that the other has turned his back on the XDA OG community. That speaks volumes.
Sk8, thanks for everything you have done for us, as well as, for the rest of XDA.
There's always the possiblility that synergy hasn't seen this thread since it's in the "General" section, and he probably sticks to the "Development" sections when he does come here. Or maybe he just wants to let sleeping dogs lie.
Thank you for the apology. I should not have retaliated to your slander posts at all regarding my well supported warning to the users. Especially retaliating on the low level I did involving name calling.
Regards,
Syn
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I've had some time to cool down and gather my thoughts. I've realized I've acted very childish and immature these past few days. I want to personally apologize to synergy, rlaselle and all of team codefire. I realize we may have different opinions on things but that is no excuse for the way I acted. I am sincerely sorry to all if you in this community for not being the leader that an RC is supposed to be. I hope you guys can forgive me and move on past this whole thing. You have my word I will no longer be involved in pointless drama.
Synergy, rlaselle and anyone else who worked on this kernel.....you guys are far more talented than I will ever be and you guys have done a great thing for this community.
Thanks for listening.
-Kyle
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Much respect to you
I did not jump into any threads nor did I post cause when things are heated.. only outcome is bad. it becomes a cat and mouse game and then you start saying things you can't take back because of the heated of the moment.. It's also very hard to even challenge anyone for that matter than has high respects, mean sometimes it's a loss loss game... We are where we are because of everyone's involvement good or bad. You need mistakes in life to learn from them and 1 or 2 mistakes are better than having a everyone suffer. That's why we test stuff internally, I've never ever released anything publicly especially anything hazardous. I have but less then 6 testers... my phone has been through hell and back just to make sure to get the proper stock JB out for all lgog and since then we've had the opportunity to have native jb run on our phones.. My phone is Canadian phone which boots aosp natively. sprint and att don't. all the Korean lgog and e975 do as well. but since lg released new updates they don't and Canadians don't either, we Canadians have to tot back to the older original tot to be able to. we are trying to figure out why it is that's different. and what makes things even more difficult is that google released 4.2.2 which brought in even more changes and more incompatibility.. my intentions of building roms are for Canadian phones which boot natively.. I test everything on my phone always a lot and more and more. This way we can collaborate on the differences and by that, it makes it easier to know why this does work and that doesn't..
Everyone has to remember Canadian lgog are still lgog's .. they are not n4. altho the n4 conversion is bad but it did bring many good things, that being that dvhexer fixed a lot of stuff including cap keys, nfc etc. and I've yet to see anyone mention that. he deserves a lot of thanks for bringing something good out of bad.. But just because I say it's bad, does not necessarily mean it's bad, it's my opinion.. but if you decide to do the conversion, who am I to tell you that you're an idiot.. I try not to voice much since I hang out more in the Canadian threads and especially they way everything always is, is cause I don't have much of a title or status, so in reality or should I say, in the internet or xda term.. my voice means not much.. I have much love for all the talented ppl here and as well for all the funny ppl that has done very risky weird things and have lost their phones just by still flashing stock roms. I've always speak highly of everyone, I've always spoken highly of synergy, and sk8 and everyone that has put much time and involvement..synergy is probably one of the most talented brightest devs amongst this whole xda not just withing our lgog community.. The last time I spoke to him he said he loved me (no gay intended) and that was it before any had all started.. sk8 has brought us many goodies and goodness.. sk8 snow and I worked on stock JB and together with our work we made it so that everyone got to enjoy it and not just the Canadians..(well not everyone, sprint was unfortunate but they did get JB first throught OTA hehe) I have nothing but the most highest respect for TheCubed (iomonster) and Shellnet2. My best learning experience is teaching.. we all start from nowhere.. teaching is what brings more talent together. anyways enough ranting.. peace everyone.. ps if u don't see me much on here I usually am working on something.. lol .There's no anger nor hate.... much love everyone!
houstonn
Ok, I think we can now stick a fork in this one and move on.
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Now kiss!
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I like this thread. Let's give it a day before it gets closed.
Regards.
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I like this thread. Let's give it a day before it gets closed.
Regards.
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Haha, that isn't something I expected to see.
I find it amusing.
It is true that the conversion and partition flashing may not be the best idea.
But it IS a viable development option for this device.
Some devs and users will support it, others wont.
I understand both points to this divide our community has seen.
Hopefully, the devs on both sides can understand the views of the opposition and simply work around different views.
For my old phone, there were many talented devs, but sadly there was drama between 2 of them and one left (or rather, was banned from) XDA.
If the 2 of them worked together, my god the things they could have done.
The same could be said here, you guys are great, I hope you can all work together because there aren't enough of you and we can't afford to lose you.
Hopefully after this is closed, this is the last we will hear of all this.
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Thanks for listening.
Finally everyone has come together again and we can stop this. Anyone who pushes this device past what it is supposed to be is truly amazing. I tried to stay out of most of these threads for the past few days, and seeing what was posted, it was inexperienced users yelling at the devs with no backup or information. Hopefully this is the end of it, and when a dev calls another dev out, anyone not involved will stay out of it.
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... and when a dev calls another dev out, anyone not involved will stay out of it.
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Hopefully it will be done by exchanging pm's.
Hey guys no offense or anything, but none of the founding guys at Team BAMF really gives a damn about anything anyone thinks. We are a group of friends who enjoy tinkering with stuff when time permits. We all have careers, hobbies, and most importantly families and lives.
What we do stand by is what we all think is the spirit of what Android represents. If Joelz or others loosely associated with Team BAMF did shady things as you suggest with phones/donations etc. then please show me. Too put it bluntly, we don't play that **** and neither does XDA. If that's the case, we will handle that real quick. We can't handle things we don't know about.
And the last thing.. I didn't read all the thread because to be honest it looked like a bunch of cry baby BS about five pages in, but not everyone wants 10000 of cherry picked features from the same three roms with a different name slapped on it. We don't operate on the premise that everyone will like us. People that have been around in the Android scene will know us and most likely have nice things to say. The ones that need their egos stroked and asses kissed will not. Regardless, BAMF's work is a hobby, and released only for the people who enjoy it, who we consider friends and fellow Android enthusiasts looking to stray away from the masses.
To the few in here defending, thanks for taking the time to get the facts. To the people here *****ing.. Feel free to carry on with your mindless bashing on an internet forum of people you don't even know, and who would most definitely put a boot in your ass in real life.. :good:
I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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Tis true. Making that first deodex stock rom was sickk. Hence why I support both parties. Bamf's name shouldn't be totally trashed because of only Joelz
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nosympathy said:
I'll bet we could still go into the rezound forum and dig up one of his old threads for pokemon rom and show where he was accused of putting out failed ROMs and agreeing be did. Probably can find the thread of him trying to sell it. Probably can show people complaining it was taking 2+months for updates. Probably can find the donatuon thread in the GS3 section that showed the protest overall this and him agreeing to not do that with the GS3 then to fail at releasing anything there.
See he lucks out as mods will protect him because he never asks for a donated device. Someone always comes in and praises him and says how great he is, he comes in and says he will do XYZ if he gets the phone and then tada phone given, a few failed releases and he is gone. He never actually breaks XDA rules but that doesn't mean he doesn't con people.
More than once he said he would do all kinds of things for said device he is going to get. He gets the device and then oh but he doesn't have time because of school. If he doesn't have time he should say so and not have people give him a phone.
Anyone who was with the GS3 from day 1 knows I did more for that device than Joelz ever has, and I didn't do much.
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Youre damned right you did more than he did, and yes I was there from day 1.
Thats partially where my distaste for him comes from, and thereby my distaste for BAMF because by not acting it gave the impression that they could give a **** about Joelz actions, as if they could care less that he was doing all that. Not saying that's the case, just the impression I was given, and still have since he is still a member, by the whole situation. The reason I am given that impression mainly is because I dont know how they haven't heard of this situation before, I thought there was another member of BAMF that posted with fair frequency on the threads on the S3 but I cannot remember for the life of me what his name was and may be wrong, and I dont know how they havent caught wind of it because it was a huge issue on the S3 forums and from what I understood it was on the rezound forums too. I know people can get busy and not have time to do everything they want or need to and that a lot of BAMF doesnt come to XDA because of the drama, on the same hand though the reason a lot of people dislike BAMF and the reason I have a terrible impression of the team is because of Joelz actions and how he was never reprimanded.
I also was given the impression that Joelz had more than a loose connection by how he and other spoke about his position in the team, he always talked how he was so high up in the team and was backed up.
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Tis true. Making that first deodex stock rom was sickk. Hence why I support both parties. Bamf's name shouldn't be totally trashed because of only Joelz
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Agreed but the reason a lot of people have bad opinions, and the reason I am put off by BAMF, is because their first interactions with BAMF was thru Joelz and his actions made the rest of the team look bad when he wasn't reprimanded.
Not saying its right, the impression I have gotten from the OP and adrynalyne is excellent, but thats the way humans read situations. If someone froma group does wrong while using the name of the group and isn't reprimanded or thrown out it looks bad.
I am not flaming BAMF with this post or any of my others, just to explain the reasoning behind the distaste that was caused by Joelz bad actions while using the BAMF name.
BTW I thought I recognized you from the S3 forums when I moved to the N2 but wasn't sure. Nice to see another name I recognize here!
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Hey guys no offense or anything, but none of the founding guys at Team BAMF really gives a damn about anything anyone thinks. We are a group of friends who enjoy tinkering with stuff when time permits. We all have careers, hobbies, and most importantly families and lives.
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You don't care what I think? /me cries :crying:
I miss you guys from my Rezound. It was always my go to Rom. Glad to see BAMF on the Note.
I'm excited to see the note with team Bamf! I don't know joelz and the whole situation. I know the original members from the thunderbolt and the Samsung Omnia back in winmo days.
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Im not quite understanding why people keep bring this up. Your beating a dead horse here! It has been a year since all the **** went down in the rezound forum, but yet it still keeps on coming up. I understand the animosity towards joelz in this forum, but quite honestly I couldnt give 2 ****s about it. Look, people donated, and he made a rom. Who is to say how many roms/updates are required to fulfill or payback for a donated device? As far as I know, there are no contacts here. I will say this, never in my day, has anyone come up to me and said "look, Ill buy you a welder if you do some work for me, and dont worry about a contact, I trust you." It doesnt work like that. I understand that majority of people on here are young and nieve to lifes bull****, but people need to move on and take this as a life lesson. I think mods should close down any donation threads on here to prevent any this from happening again. I like bamf, I think they put out a good product, as do the majority of the other devs on this forum. If joelz has done what everybody says he's done, it really shows his character and the mods should do something about it.
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Youre damned right you did more than he did, and yes I was there from day 1.
Thats partially where my distaste for him comes from, and thereby my distaste for BAMF because by not acting it gave the impression that they could give a **** about Joelz actions, as if they could care less that he was doing all that. Not saying that's the case, just the impression I was given, and still have since he is still a member, by the whole situation. The reason I am given that impression mainly is because I dont know how they haven't heard of this situation before, I thought there was another member of BAMF that posted with fair frequency on the threads on the S3 but I cannot remember for the life of me what his name was and may be wrong, and I dont know how they havent caught wind of it because it was a huge issue on the S3 forums and from what I understood it was on the rezound forums too. I know people can get busy and not have time to do everything they want or need to and that a lot of BAMF doesnt come to XDA because of the drama, on the same hand though the reason a lot of people dislike BAMF and the reason I have a terrible impression of the team is because of Joelz actions and how he was never reprimanded.
I also was given the impression that Joelz had more than a loose connection by how he and other spoke about his position in the team, he always talked how he was so high up in the team and was backed up.
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Agreed but the reason a lot of people have bad opinions, and the reason I am put off by BAMF, is because their first interactions with BAMF was thru Joelz and his actions made the rest of the team look bad when he wasn't reprimanded.
Not saying its right, the impression I have gotten from the OP and adrynalyne is excellent, but thats the way humans read situations. If someone froma group does wrong while using the name of the group and isn't reprimanded or thrown out it looks bad.
I am not flaming BAMF with this post or any of my others, just to explain the reasoning behind the distaste that was caused by Joelz bad actions while using the BAMF name.
BTW I thought I recognized you from the S3 forums when I moved to the N2 but wasn't sure. Nice to see another name I recognize here!
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Do you make assumptions like that in real life? None of us are his keeper. We are all grown men. He has always had different devices than me or the others. Again, show me some of what you are talking about. If these things are true, they will be handled because we don't play that ****.
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Do you make assumptions like that in real life? None of us are his keeper. We are all grown men. He has always had different devices than me or the others. Again, show me some of what you are talking about. If these things are true, they will be handled because we don't play that ****.
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Yes I actually do, im a grown man also and if I have a group and catch even the remotest wind that someone in my group is giving it a bad name I would research it until I found out the truth. Thats the way it goes in the real world, if someone is a member of your group and they misrepresent it then that goves the whole group a bad name when there are no reprimands.
As for researching it I am leaving it up to nosympathy for the time because last timr this discussion got brought up he had the threads from all the devices save where the only one I know how to find is the S3 thread. And honestly I dont know if the mods have deleted all the evidence yet or not, the deleted quite a bit of it while the conversation was in its prime. If nosympathy cant or doesnt want to look it up again I will look through the XDA post and see if there is anything left after the mods edited it.
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Im not quite understanding why people keep bring this up. Your beating a dead horse here! It has been a year since all the **** went down in the rezound forum, but yet it still keeps on coming up. I understand the animosity towards joelz in this forum, but quite honestly I couldnt give 2 ****s about it. Look, people donated, and he made a rom. Who is to say how many roms/updates are required to fulfill or payback for a donated device? As far as I know, there are no contacts here. I will say this, never in my day, has anyone come up to me and said "look, Ill buy you a welder if you do some work for me, and dont worry about a contact, I trust you." It doesnt work like that. I understand that majority of people on here are young and nieve to lifes bull****, but people need to move on and take this as a life lesson. I think mods should close down any donation threads on here to prevent any this from happening again. I like bamf, I think they put out a good product, as do the majority of the other devs on this forum. If joelz has done what everybody says he's done, it really shows his character and the mods should do something about it.
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I agree with you about donation threads, they shoulsnt be allowed at all anymore on XDA thanks to all the bad **** thats happened.
As for him not being reprimanded, that is because the mods were on his side because technically he did not break XDAs rules, which need to be adjusted to move on with the times, on the subject and because one of them was a fan of Joelz.
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Yes I actually do, im a grown man also and if I have a group and catch even the remotest wind that someone in my group is giving it a bad name I would research it until I found out the truth. Thats the way it goes in the real world, if someone is a member of your group and they misrepresent it then that goves the whole group a bad name when there are no reprimands.
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LOL. Like someone said above, he was given a phone and made a ROM for it. Did he promise to keep developing stuff for it? Did he lead people on? How the f do I know? I don't look through all the device threads on XDA. Do you paruse the RAZR threads? I sure as hell don't. Same with any other device I don't freaking have. You telling us is catching "The remotest wind".. Whatever that is. I will find out though. And after all this BS, it better be true and not some prima donna BS from some bored XDA members.
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LOL. Like someone said above, he was given a phone and made a ROM for it. Did he promise to keep developing stuff for it? Did he lead people on? How the f do I know? I don't look through all the device threads on XDA. Do you paruse the RAZR threads? I sure as hell don't. Same with any other device I don't freaking have. You telling us is catching "The remotest wind".. Whatever that is. I will find out though. And after all this BS, it better be true and not some prima donna BS from some bored XDA members.
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No I dont monitor them all the time but as big as this was I find it hard to believe that word did not reach you. And the problem isnt that he stopped devlopment for the rom he made, the problem is is that he tricked people into donating because they wanted BAMF on their phones and then he never delivered. Thats not even the biggest issue, thats something thay happens every day that I overlook, the worst part was when he tried to sell the goddamned device before he had put out anything. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions. That was wiped off the thread as soon as it was posted though, I used to have a screen shot of that but after 5 or 6 HDD wipes it is long long gone. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms against Joelz, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions.
As for him promising to keep developing for it, yes he did many many times.
What I have tried to say nicely is that I find it hard to believe that a lot of hardcore BAMF lovers that donsted didnt post or email or whatever someone on your website to get some of your attention. It may nit have happened but I still find it hard to believe. If I had any experience with BAMF before I would have emailed one of you immediately but as this was my first experience I had no clue about your website until way way later.
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No I dont monitor them all the time but as big as this was I find it hard to believe that word did not reach you. And the problem isnt that he stopped devlopment for the rom he made, the problem is is that he tricked people into donating because they wanted BAMF on their phones and then he never delivered. Thats not even the biggest issue, thats something thay happens every day that I overlook, the worst part was when he tried to sell the goddamned device before he had put out anything. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions. That was wiped off the thread as soon as it was posted though, I used to have a screen shot of that but after 5 or 6 HDD wipes it is long long gone. All of that combined is what had and still have a few people up in arms against Joelz, while it isnt against the entire BAMF team it definitely gives bad impressions.
As for him promising to keep developing for it, yes he did many many times.
What I have tried to say nicely is that I find it hard to believe that a lot of hardcore BAMF lovers that donsted didnt post or email or whatever someone on your website to get some of your attention. It may nit have happened but I still find it hard to believe. If I had any experience with BAMF before I would have emailed one of you immediately but as this was my first experience I had no clue about your website until way way later.
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Nobody told us anything. That's why I find the whole thing far fetched. I just read the whole other thread about all this drama. Eris told you what the deal was. He's not a liar, and is a good friend. If he says Joel intentions were good and he did what he said he would do, then I have nothing further to add to the subject. None of us give a **** enough to lie. Show us something to the contrary about the situation and we can discuss further. Already wasted enough brain cells on these threads. Thanks for that.
So look, anyone who knows us, knows we update when we feel like it. It may take a week, it may take 4 months. Frankly, we don't care, because as Butch says, we do it for us. It's a happy bonus that we share with everyone else. Hell, Paradigm was 6 months late to the party on the Nexus, and it worked from day one there.
If you want to blame anyone for not having a ROM on the Rezound or the S3, you can blame me. I am the one that determines whether they are ready for prime time, and neither one is. Joel has worked his ass off, but hit a brick wall on a feature I deem rather important (in-call volume). That is literally the only thing that kept the S3 ROM from being released. And it's not for lack of trying, he just doesn't know C++(nor do I) well enough to fix the issues.
You don't believe he's still actively working on it? The proof is right there in front of you. His bitbucket handle is boss. You want a ROM so you can shut up about him stealing your damn donated phone? I'll build one tonight. And it will have broken in-call volume. Will that please everyone?
I mean really, Joelz is a good guy, but he's a kid. When I was his age I was trying to get drunk and laid, not build ROMs from hundreds of thousands of lines of indecipherable source code. Until you can build your own, how about everyone just stfu.
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Nobody told us anything. That's why I find the whole thing far fetched. I just read the whole other thread about all this drama. Eris told you what the deal was. He's not a liar, and is a good friend. If he says Joel intentions were good and he did what he said he would do, then I have nothing further to add to the subject. None of us give a **** enough to lie. Show us something to the contrary about the situation and we can discuss further. Already wasted enough brain cells on these thread. Thanks for that.
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Ah so youre locking the thread so no one else can reply? Im still looking for unedited screenshots of the conversations seeing as how all the threads are heavily editited. But you dont care you want to call people out and then lock the thread because otherwise you look as bad as Joelz for not reprimanding him.
And you dont believe it when there are 2 people that have a huge problem in the N2 thread, go post in the d2vzw thread and see what happens. You'll get the normal crazies but there are a lot of people there still burnt.
And Eris said he found it hard to believe and Joelz had offered the phone to him for development. Not saying he is lying just that he wasnt there when it happened so how can he know?
And from what I can tell from just a little looking through the threads trying to find a screenshot I see something about Butch with BAMF pulling a bait and switch on the X2, would that happen to be you?
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So look, anyone who knows us, knows we update when we feel like it. It may take a week, it may take 4 months. Frankly, we don't care, because as Butch says, we do it for us. It's a happy bonus that we share with everyone else. Hell, Paradigm was 6 months late to the party on the Nexus, and it worked from day one there.
If you want to blame anyone for not having a ROM on the Rezound or the S3, you can blame me. I am the one that determines whether they are ready for prime time, and neither one is. Joel has worked his ass off, but hit a brick wall on a feature I deem rather important (in-call volume). That is literally the only thing that kept the S3 ROM from being released. And it's not for lack of trying, he just doesn't know C++(nor do I) well enough to fix the issues.
You don't believe he's still actively working on it? The proof is right there in front of you. His bitbucket handle is boss. You want a ROM so you can shut up about him stealing your damn donated phone? I'll build one tonight. And it will have broken in-call volume. Will that please everyone?
I mean really, Joelz is a good guy, but he's a kid. When I was his age I was trying to get drunk and laid, not build ROMs from hundreds of thousands of lines of indecipherable source code. Until you can build your own, how about everyone just stfu.
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Ahh yes, the infamous AOSP rom. What about the BAMF rom that he used as his ticket to getting the phone?
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There you go.. Happy now? Can we all go back to playing around with Android? Geez.
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Ah so youre locking the thread so no one else can reply? Im still looking for unedited screenshots of the conversations seeing as how all the threads are heavily editited. But you dont care you want to call people out and then lock the thread because otherwise you look as bad as Joelz for not reprimanding him.
And you dont believe it when there are 2 people that have a huge problem in the N2 thread, go post in the d2vzw thread and see what happens. You'll get the normal crazies but there are a lot of people there still burnt.
And Eris said he found it hard to believe and Joelz had offered the phone to him for development. Not saying he is lying just that he wasnt there when it happened so how can he know?
And from what I can tell from just a little looking through the threads trying to find a screenshot I see something about Butch with BAMF pulling a bait and switch on the X2, would that happen to be you?
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Ahh yes, the infamous AOSP rom. What about the BAMF rom that he used as his ticket to getting the phone?
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BAMF Paradigm was his ticket to the phone. Which is AOSP.
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There you go.. Happy now? Can we all go back to playing around with Android? Geez.
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Don't worry, im done talking to you. I was looking for proof until I came across that little tidbit about you on the X2, now I know no matter how much proof we show you you still wont do anything. I am not going to waste my breath or my time on you or your team anymore, no matter what happens you wont so anything. I have better things to do with my time than trying to prove something to a person that obviously doesn't give a ****.
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BAMF Paradigm was his ticket to the phone. Which is AOSP.
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Forgive me, seeing as how it is not BAMF Paradigm that has been posted but pure AOSP. From what o understand Paradigm has a few of BAMFs tweak and mods in it and what Joelz put out to begin with was nothing but AOSP without BAMFs tweaks.
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Don't worry, im done talking to you. I was looking for proof until I came across that little tidbit about you on the X2, now I know no matter how much proof we show you you still wont do anything. I am not going to waste my breath or my time on you or your team anymore, no matter what happens you wont so anything. I have better things to do with my time than trying to prove something to a person that obviously doesn't give a ****.
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LOL. What because I decided blur was a horrible idea to mod, so by a show of hands we decided to contribute the device to CM so they could at least get those guys an AOSP ROM? You decide to "give up" on talking about it once Eris shows you proof. And to think I wasted time trying to understand your "problem." The problem is you. Don't worry, take your self serving holier than though attitude over to Rootzwiki with all the other cool teenagers. While you are at it put on your unicorn shirt, talk more ****, and contribute nothing to anything, which is apparent by a quick check of your profile.
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You've been here three years and never once CONTRIBUTED. Every thread is you asking for something. Locking this garbage thread now, since everything you touch seems to smell like ****. Have a good weekend.
Think it's time I took a break, I've lost the drive to make anything android related recently. I may come back I may not it was fun, horrid, annoying, and disappointing. Farewell.
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Think it's time I took a break, I've lost the drive to make anything android related recently. I may come back I may not it was fun, horrid, annoying, and disappointing. Farewell.
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Well I wish I could say, what are you talking about, but sadly I have to say I understand your dilemma, Well I will just say thank you for all your hard work for the community. Enjoy your time off, Hope you will return at some point.
First Cap'n and now this...
WTF...one of the last greats just up and left. Sad to read this, Sin. But I can relate and understand. Air out some the idiocracy that's been around as of late.
You kept my phone exciting for some time. I'll miss that. Build 3 was awesome and I'll stick with it.
Thanks, brah~
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This is truly sad. Thank you Sin, for everything you've done for this community. I can't say I blame you, I've followed all your threads and I understand your pain. You will be missed.
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I'm sorry to hear this, Thank you Sin for all you have done!!!
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should have taken the red pill man.
Can you explain what it was specifically that is so bad about xda?
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Can you explain what it was specifically that is so bad about xda?
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This is where I would humorously tell people IRL "your face". But I'm overly sarcastic and generally never serious...
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Good Luck and Thank You for all you have done for this and other devices you have Created Great Roms for. Enjoy Life !
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should have taken the red pill man.
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I had taken the red pill before I updated. It was the my daily up until your 5.5 with chubbz. You will be missed and hopefully we will get the pleasure of your work again.
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You start or participate in a forum. It's a baby forum because it just got started. Your baby is growing up and turning into a toddler (about 50 pages in). Your toddler is curious and wants to know what's out there by asking questions, because they are unsure or not know things. You say to your toddler you should know better and I'm done with you. I can see if it was even 100 pages in...no more like 250 pages in and saying, please stop asking the same questions. I'm almost sorry I'm apart of this forum with cry babies and/or pity shows starting threads like I'm taking a break or I'm leaving. Just leave! Peace out! Guess what? In two months there might be one or two people saying, hey remember blah blah blah and blah blah. Life goes on and the forums go on. New devs and new threads. The way of the world. If you want to leave, so be it and be done. Come back if you wish. Real men and/or women don't look for pity. Smell ya later.
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You start or participate in a forum. It's a baby forum because it just got started. Your baby is growing up and turning into a toddler (about 50 pages in). Your toddler is curious and wants to know what's out there by asking questions, because they are unsure or not know things. You say to your toddler you should know better and I'm done with you. I can see if it was even 100 pages in...no more like 250 pages in and saying, please stop asking the same questions. I'm almost sorry I'm apart of this forum with cry babies and/or pity shows starting threads like I'm taking a break or I'm leaving. Just leave! Peace out! Guess what? In two months there might be one or two people saying, hey remember blah blah blah and blah blah. Life goes on and the forums go on. New devs and new threads. The way of the world. If you want to leave, so be it and be done. Come back if you wish. Real men and/or women don't look for pity. Smell ya later.
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you basically summed up the user base there. I dont think toddlers should be playing with smart phones, and trust me this aint no pitty thread. the last time I went M.I.A. there where a few thread asking where I went. you can enjoy your new devs, lol enjoy the ones that'll take our work and make 12+ version from it with no enhancements.
heres a fine example of a thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054180
It was a synonym and obviously you still didn't get. That is exactly what I meant and your response sums it up. There are threads where the same question is asked on the 1000+ page that was answered on the 3rd page. No one gets mad, some actually post a link or try to help.
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Take it easy Sin and enjoy your break. Thanks for all your hard work!
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It was a synonym and obviously you still didn't get. That is exactly what I meant and your response sums it up. There are threads where the same question is asked on the 1000+ page that was answered on the 3rd page. No one gets mad, some actually post a link or try to help.
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when its listed in the 3rd post of a thread id expect people to find it. you seem worked up about this more than anyone else whos posted. Are you harboring some deep feeling for me and acting out in rage?? poor poor you. it's okay, take it easy buddy.
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It was a synonym and obviously you still didn't get. That is exactly what I meant and your response sums it up. There are threads where the same question is asked on the 1000+ page that was answered on the 3rd page. No one gets mad, some actually post a link or try to help.
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heres a link to hopefully help you. I really hope it does, really do.
http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-an-Obsessive-Mental-Preoccupation
No, I just don't like people following suite, I like for people to be their own individual. No problems with you! But....a couple days after cap said he was leaving with due respect after opening multiple threads at once and having to keep up with them. You start a thread saying you were leaving. Good. Go. How many threads did you start, or are you just contributing to a thread or two which neither was started by you. You seem angry as lil boys usually do. So sad. Hey post more informative threads that obviously you have looked up for some odd reason. Much appreciated.
I'm done, smell ya
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No, I just don't like people following suite, I like for people to be their own individual. No problems with you! But....a couple days after cap said he was leaving with due respect after opening multiple threads at once and having to keep up with them. You start a thread saying you were leaving. Good. Go. How many threads did you start, or are you just contributing to a thread or two which neither was started by you. You seem angry as lil boys usually do. So sad. Hey post more informative threads that obviously you have looked up for some odd reason. Much appreciated.
I'm done, smell ya
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lmao. cap took his leave, I took min. as for threads is it so damn important who is the op? me chubbz and cap have been the active force in development on this device. ive gotten sick and tired cap has and it wont be long till chubbz does too. see this is a development forums, its not a forum for toddlers and retards who cant follow instructions or use a simple feature like search. im going dark caps going dark as for chubbz I cant speak for him, none the less it doesnt mean we havent stopped doing what we do, christ I just finished talking with em about getting beats and zoe working. as for sharing it here thats the issue. you (userbase) has been spoiled, its not our jobs to spoon feed you none of this is our job we decide to share things that we make and get working, and we get treated like we're here to serve people, **** that.
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