Has anyone figured out if its possible to use the ExtUSB (sync) port as a USB host port? I'm guessing the communication lines could be controlled with software, but that you would have to use an externally powered USB hub (or devices that are externally powered) unless the +/- charge lines are 2-way.
techntrek said:
Has anyone figured out if its possible to use the ExtUSB (sync) port as a USB host port? I'm guessing the communication lines could be controlled with software, but that you would have to use an externally powered USB hub (or devices that are externally powered) unless the +/- charge lines are 2-way.
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I don'ty know the answer, but... what for? The X7500 has the cable to allow USB devices connect to the USB host... so? And for sure you will need a cable to convert mini USB to female regular USB... so is not a matter of money or carring a cable I guess.
Mostly techie curiosity. I figured since someone already figured out how to reroute internet sharing to make a wifi host, someone else must have looked at that normal-looking usb port and thought about making it work like a usb host. I'm a programmer but I don't have time to work on that...
techntrek said:
Mostly techie curiosity. I figured since someone already figured out how to reroute internet sharing to make a wifi host, someone else must have looked at that normal-looking usb port and thought about making it work like a usb host. I'm a programmer but I don't have time to work on that...
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unfortunatly the chip that does that feature is not capable of that.
if you look at the schematics of a root hub it has 1 main chip that is the hub controller, and slave chips for each of the ports. a device interface has a diffrent type of chip that's intended to be connected to a root hub connection port. thusly no software fix could be made too convert a port intended to be a connection point into a root hub port
mind you the 4-in 1 cabloe is cheap enough and i saw at least 1 site via google that had a usb port only cable for the sepcial connector
so is worth looking at that.
Hey - do you have the details of the company selling this 'usb only' cable?
Thanks for the input. Just curious if it could be done, I hadn't tried to look up the schematics. I second the request for the info on the usb-only cable, that would be perfect since they already gave us a vga cable...
Would this "USB cable" allow me to use a 149GB externally HDD caddy like I managed on my Dell x51v Axim's CF to USB slot, as the 4 in 1 cable isn't cutting it?
Thankz
There are lots of posts related to external HD and X7500... in general most of them (99'99%) don't work properly. In the webpages from HTC said that the 4-in-1 cable only admit mouse, keyboard and pen-drives.
Just wondering what can be done with the full size USB port. I've connected two cameras and my Droid X too it and none were recognized as mass storage devices. The only use I have found for it so far is that it can charge my phone. I would love to be able to be able plug in my camera (Sony, not SD card) and dump them on to it where ever I am for editing or uploading.
Thanks
Keyboards usually work right out of the box, so that can be a nice feature. Also, I think hard drives can be hooked up, but the tablet can't really power them, so they have to be connected via a powered hub. I think thumb drives/flash drives work as well, but I haven't tried them.
For me, being able to easily get a cheap, generic keyboard working has been a very nice feature of the tablet.
I believe I recall reading that you can use it for USB GPS receivers as well. I have not tried it myself.
ahhh a Keyboard, that would be a nice addition. Now that I think about it I am going to see if my bluetooth keyboard will work (don't have a USB one)
GPS is something I am missing more than I would have expected on a tablet
I have a 32gb thumb drive that works perfect. In fact, I have 5 thumb drives all with different data on them ranging from documents to videos.
noechelon said:
I have a 32gb thumb drive that works perfect. In fact, I have 5 thumb drives all with different data on them ranging from documents to videos.
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That is what I use it for as well.
Anyone had success making USB controllers work for emulators? Seen the wiimote bluetooth setup, but I don't have a wiimote.
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Interesting someone said that the USB port cant power usb devices, i connected my bluetooth gps to my usb port yesterday to see if it would power the gps, it did, so im not sure why we would think it does not power usb devices, as mine seems to be working fine.
Im setting my gtab up in my car and wanted to know if id need a second power souce for both the gtab and the gps. Seems to gtab will provide power to the bt gps ok.
Icedvoco said:
Interesting someone said that the USB port cant power usb devices, i connected my bluetooth gps to my usb port yesterday to see if it would power the gps, it did, so im not sure why we would think it does not power usb devices, as mine seems to be working fine.
Im setting my gtab up in my car and wanted to know if id need a second power souce for both the gtab and the gps. Seems to gtab will provide power to the bt gps ok.
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It's not guaranteed to power them. Some 2.5" external drives and devices take a bit more than 1 USB slot can handle, even on laptops. Ever had a 2.5" external drive that randomly shows up or pops up then disappears? Also, ever seen a mini usb cable with 2 male USB connections? That's so that if the drive has issues using 1 port, you can plug another in and your devices will work. Even some flash drives at high capacity+speed may give trouble. There's def. the propensity for other usb devices to behave that way as well. Keyboards generally don't have that problem unless they're advanced (have lights, usb ports/hub on them), also mice don't generally have that issue either but anything else can.
What can work?
I'll say more than likely any powered external hard drive.
Some USB powered 2.5" external hard drives (my 320GB is seen and is usable, my 40GB is not as it is older and requires more power).
Most flash drives.
More than likely, any usb device engineered to worth within the constraints of using a single usb port (wireless controllers, remotes, mice, some keyboards, some gps units, etc.)
What probably won't work?
High capacity, high speed or OLD 2.5" usb powered external hard drive (750-1TB)
Advanced devices with a usb hub on them or lots of lights or moving parts, powered solely by the usb port
High capacity, high speed flash drives (though I'm sure this is vendor specific)
Interesting, so low powered devices will be usable, but not high powered ones, thats fair enough, both my bt gps and my fm transmitter seem to be working fine.
Ive ordered a 4 port usb hub which i planned to use to connect both the gps and the fm transmitter to the usb port to give them power, no biggie if it isnt able to do that, as i can use the hub elsewhere, but be interested now to see if it will work. Thanks for the heads up.
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Interesting, so low powered devices will be usable, but not high powered ones, thats fair enough, both my bt gps and my fm transmitter seem to be working fine.
Ive ordered a 4 port usb hub which i planned to use to connect both the gps and the fm transmitter to the usb port to give them power, no biggie if it isnt able to do that, as i can use the hub elsewhere, but be interested now to see if it will work. Thanks for the heads up.
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I also have an 'official Malata' USB to ethernet on the way for review to see if I can get it to work and see if there would be any interest for us in the States. I should have the demo today and will report back any findings?
IT2STEVE, I think you'll have takers on that USB->Ethernet adapter. I still stay at one hotel when traveling for work that does not have wireless (though most do). And sometimes at work, the wireless flakes out. This would be nice to have.
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IT2STEVE, I think you'll have takers on that USB->Ethernet adapter. I still stay at one hotel when traveling for work that does not have wireless (though most do). And sometimes at work, the wireless flakes out. This would be nice to have.
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Have you tried tethering to your phone? I used my MyTouch 4g hotspot feature at two diners this past weekend and it worked well.
Wondering about the usb nic driver, is it provided with the usb nic ? or do we need someone to develop one ? Ive had a quick look on ebay and can see a few of these available, naturally none of them are official Malata' USB to ethernet. so that raises the question of using none Malata ones ?
I use it for a flash drive too.
The issue is that I copied mp3 from the flash drive to the g-tab..and when I use File Explorer I can see and play the songs, but in the Music app they dont show up.
320 external hard drive
Hello. I am looking to buy a 320 GB hard drive for my gtab. I am wanting to buy the Western Digital My passport essential. Do you think this will work with the USB on this device? It is usb powered. Thanks.
the tab usb will not power a standard hd
Anybody ever tried a USB TV Receiver? I'm doubting it would work, but would be cool...
I was looking to use the usb port to load pictures from my camera's sd cards via a card reader onto the tablet when I travel. Saves me from taking my laptop with me. I can do everything I need with a smaller device like a tablet now. (Might have to save them back on a flashdrive though in case the Gtab decides to delete your pictures...)
And I guess you can always use the the port for your USB Pet Rock. (thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/c208)
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It's not guaranteed to power them. Some 2.5" external drives and devices take a bit more than 1 USB slot can handle, even on laptops. Ever had a 2.5" external drive that randomly shows up or pops up then disappears? Also, ever seen a mini usb cable with 2 male USB connections? That's so that if the drive has issues using 1 port, you can plug another in and your devices will work. Even some flash drives at high capacity+speed may give trouble. There's def. the propensity for other usb devices to behave that way as well. Keyboards generally don't have that problem unless they're advanced (have lights, usb ports/hub on them), also mice don't generally have that issue either but anything else can.
What can work?
I'll say more than likely any powered external hard drive.
Some USB powered 2.5" external hard drives (my 320GB is seen and is usable, my 40GB is not as it is older and requires more power).
Most flash drives.
More than likely, any usb device engineered to worth within the constraints of using a single usb port (wireless controllers, remotes, mice, some keyboards, some gps units, etc.)
What probably won't work?
High capacity, high speed or OLD 2.5" usb powered external hard drive (750-1TB)
Advanced devices with a usb hub on them or lots of lights or moving parts, powered solely by the usb port
High capacity, high speed flash drives (though I'm sure this is vendor specific)
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This poster says their 320 GB hard drive is powered by it. So will the 320 GB western digital essentials be powered by it?
Hi together,
ive asked me if it is possible to use an adapter for 1x micro usb (plug) -> 2x micro usb (jack).
Could the phone handle 2 USB devices at the same time?
Maybe then it is possible to use the HDMI output and the USB host parallel?
For example to use an TV as screen and an HDD as the source for a movie.
This would be nice.
Thanks in advance.
macc
When the connector is used for HDMI I doubt it can be used as USB at the same time, I'n sorry.
Maybe in a few months cyanogenmod provides a hack, if there will be an dual adapter soon.
We will see. Thank you.
macc
The hardware needs to allow this if it'd become possible. You need a really smart USB dongle that knows how to split the HDMI output from the USB output.
Sounds a little too difficult to ever happen.
Hmm thats right. I think i still dream xD
But thank you.
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it is not possible. because as stated on this forum many times before, the type of usb connection is determined by the resistor between pin 4 and 5 of the micro usb connector. the strength can tell the phone, that there is either a charger, a pc connection, car kit, jig, usb otg or mhl connection present.
and i believe, this is an important thing to keep in mind for so many things:
for instance, why the original car kit triggers car mode and generic car charging cables don't or why not just any micro usb male to usb a female will work as a otg cable or why flashing should be done with the original usb cable...
so if you were to buy or build a micro usb hub, since it has no resistor in the very plug that connects to the phone, it cannot be used for anything but charging and quite frankly, i wouldn't connect more than one charger to the phone.
however, if you want to use your phone for presentations or watching movies and still be able to use it, get a bluetooth keyboard and mouse or a bluetooth presenter or do it the other way around and use a usb input device and transfer your media using allshare. everything else is physically impossible, so neither CM nor XDA can do anything about it. the only device that can do what you want is the new motorola. it has a separate micro usb and micro hdmi port and a docking station, so you can use it as a full notebook.
Thats obvious. Thank you.
macc
I bought some USB cables off monoprice because I figured I could transfer files through it when the tablet is docked. Nothing is showing up on my computer when plugged in...
Kinda ****ty if I have to buy proprietary cables just so I can dock at home/work and charge in my room without moving cables.....
Any ideas?
Did you install the special ASUS Transformer driver? ASUS made what I consider a poor choice and requires that you install a special driver instead of doing what they should have and have the Prime (or its siblings) look like USB attached storage.
Bye.
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Had to install them to root the TFP, nothing seems to show up.
bump......
Same problem here. I installed the Suite and restarted - PC (XP) still not seeing the TF-201.
I also downloaded and unzipped the drivers alone from the ASUS website. Now that they are unzipped, what do I do with them??? Of all the crap in the ZIP, I'm not really sure which files go where. Help would certainly be appreciated!
I assume you're trying to use the full-sized USB port on the dock to connect to your computer? I'm pretty sure that won't work. That port is designated as a host port and not as a client port. You won't be able to use it to connect your TFP to your PC.
It would be kind of like connecting your laptop to your desktop and expecting the laptop to show up as a drive on your desktop.
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I assume you're trying to use the full-sized USB port on the dock to connect to your computer? I'm pretty sure that won't work. That port is designated as a host port and not as a client port. You won't be able to use it to connect your TFP to your PC.
It would be kind of like connecting your laptop to your desktop and expecting the laptop to show up as a drive on your desktop.
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Wow, thanks Aragorn! that explains it. I'm following ASUS's instructions to update to ICS and hopefully put an end to my "serial number unknown" fiasco, and totally overlooked that their reference to a USB meant the 40-pin one used for the AC adapter! I am finally connected to PC and transferring the updates. Thanks!
aragorn182 said:
I assume you're trying to use the full-sized USB port on the dock to connect to your computer? I'm pretty sure that won't work. That port is designated as a host port and not as a client port. You won't be able to use it to connect your TFP to your PC.
It would be kind of like connecting your laptop to your desktop and expecting the laptop to show up as a drive on your desktop.
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I was guessing this was the answer, but that's very unfortunate. Instead of $.99 USB cables I'm now going to have to buy a handful of proprietary cables.. bummer.
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I was guessing this was the answer, but that's very unfortunate. Instead of $.99 USB cables I'm now going to have to buy a handful of proprietary cables.. bummer.
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Yeah, I'm currently evaluating what the other options are before I buy a bunch of the Asus proprietary cables.
I was wondering how do you go around to surf the internet on your big screen tv and also use an external usb mouse/keyboard?
I would need a "Micro USB Host Mode Cable" to hook the mouse/keyboard to the phone AND I also have to use a "MHL Adapter Micro USB To HDMI Converter" to see the phone in the tv and both use the one and only usb micro from the phone... Is anyone using a usb hub with usb micro to usb micro connections? Has anyone tried to use a regular usb hub to connect more than one usb device? Do you need to be rooted to do this?
I guess one option is to find a bluetooth keyboard/mouse but that seems to be expensive...
Thanks!
I know that most people us the MHL adapter for hdmi and bluetooth for keyboard and mouse.
Is there a list anywhere as far as which bluetooth mouse/keyboard works fine? I hate to go that route since I will be using the phone this way at both home and work. I dont really want to be hauling the keyboard/mouse back and forth. At least if I could connect using the usb I could use bluetooth on one place and usb in the other....
Anyway, if you can point me out to where there is a list I will appreciate it...
I still like to hear if anyone is doing this just using usb...
Anyone knows a list of proven bluetooth keyboards/mouse?
Guess not.
Check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488557
I bought this keyboard and mouse and it works great. You can buy it for $44 shipped (they will accept your offer).
Multi-touch is a no go, but it is still pretty slick.
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