I have been messing with Antutu CPU and SetCPU just to see how well each is working. (never installed at the same time)
Been using System Tuner Pro and System Panel to watch the CPU.
With no CPU app installed, STP shows that the 2nd core is "offline" and SP shows no activity at all on the 2nd core either.
With Antutu CPU installed the 2nd core shows offline/no activity as well.
When SetCPU is installed, the 2nd core shows activity.
Sometimes it scales even with the 1st core and sometimes not. It scales both higher and lower than the 1st core, I am guessing the OS is issuing separate threads to each core and each thread's demands dictates the load of the individual cores.
I know that the 2 cores can scale Independent of each other, the 2nd core does not need to scale with the 1st core like some other current CPUs.
So what is going on to cause this? Is the kernel set to only use one core by default? I never seen any load for the 2nd core, even when running a graphically intensive game, and checking the load history.
And why does the 2nd core start working when SetCPU is installed? What does it change that Antutu does not? Seems we can get much better performance if SetCPU really does enable the 2nd core over what is default in the kernel.
So anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Antutu bench shows no improvement.
Glbench... Need to test more.
Linpack... Stock it shows an avg score of 48 and when using multithread option avg score of 43.
When SetCPU is installed, the scores are 48 and 75 respectfully.
I'm not 100% sure but I think I read somewhere that this is normal.The 2nd core remains inactive until it is actually needed.
the problem is that gingerbread is not designed to utilize a multi-core cpu. if you want to see both cores operational you'll have to move up to ics... that and i think they are still working out the bugs in that.
voxigenboy said:
the problem is that gingerbread is not designed to utilize a multi-core cpu. if you want to see both cores operational you'll have to move up to ics... that and i think they are still working out the bugs in that.
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I am running scott's ICS cleanROM...
There is definatly no second core activity, but there is after installing and using SetCPU.
Funny, I was just going to ask about the second core. I have been keeping an eye on it in System Panel. Never shows any activity.. Seems inactive... Even when I checked history while running N64oid... I was surprised to see that emulator wasn't utilizing the second core. Although the emulator does run very well, it could definitely benefit from additional core..ks this all because of Gingerbread? It would seem like an app should be able to make use out of it... After all, it was shipped this way.
Marine6680 said:
I am running scott's ICS cleanROM...
There is definatly no second core activity, but there is after installing and using SetCPU.
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that being the case it can be dependent on the build/settings. the setcpu thing makes sense due to the nature of the app. even then, depending on rom/kernal, setcpu allows not only for under/overclocking but also voltage control.
voxigenboy said:
that being the case it can be dependent on the build/settings. the setcpu thing makes sense due to the nature of the app. even then, depending on rom/kernal, setcpu allows not only for under/overclocking but also voltage control.
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Antutu cpu doesn't cause any activity in the second core, only setcpu. Seems both would work the same.
I don't play with these apps very often, but because some of the kernels jump around, I tried CPU tweaker. It shows both cores, and temp, and load. You might check it out just for fun. It seems to show both kernels, and their frequencies. I wish I could be of more help, but this is my first dual core.
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If u want them both on, remove the mdprecision file, or copy it and move it out of the folder, or just rename it, and then reboot and the second core will be on. I usually copy mine to the system folder and rename the original by adding .bak onto the end
I think its located in /system/bin
It does making a difference having them both on, battery life will be a little less but not much. But it goes faster during app switching and such.. it gives it an edge I think. I leave my second core standard on demand, because its fast enough for me like that and battery life is a little better.
Edit: also, generally my phone benches a little higher with both cores active, instead of the stock way and the second one being on demand. Anyway. Try it, xD
Edit 2: Oh also, if you want to revert back, place the mdpresicion file back in the /system/bin folder and reboot. I assumed that was self explanatory, but just in case lulz
I guess its never safe to assume though
I would think leaving it offline unless it's actually needed is a smarter bet unless you're a benchmark whore.
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If u want them both on, remove the mdprecision file, or copy it and move it out of the folder, or just rename it, and then reboot and the second core will be on. I usually copy mine to the system folder and rename the original by adding .bak onto the end
I think its located in /system/bin
It does making a difference having them both on, battery life will be a little less but not much. But it goes faster during app switching and such.. it gives it an edge I think. I leave my second core standard on demand, because its fast enough for me like that and battery life is a little better.
Edit: also, generally my phone benches a little higher with both cores active, instead of the stock way and the second one being on demand. Anyway. Try it, xD
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how do you change the settings of both cores separately as in leave one core ON DEMAND and the second on INTERACTIVE..is there an app that can do that or is that something done on a different level.
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If u want them both on, remove the mdprecision file, or copy it and move it out of the folder, or just rename it, and then reboot and the second core will be on. I usually copy mine to the system folder and rename the original by adding .bak onto the end
I think its located in /system/bin
It does making a difference having them both on, battery life will be a little less but not much. But it goes faster during app switching and such.. it gives it an edge I think. I leave my second core standard on demand, because its fast enough for me like that and battery life is a little better.
Edit: also, generally my phone benches a little higher with both cores active, instead of the stock way and the second one being on demand. Anyway. Try it, xD
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Mm I've actually scored higher w/ benches w/ leaving the file intact. 6,500 on Antutu on ics and 5,800 - 5,900 w/ the file renamed/removed. But tbh I could care less about benches since they mean jack to me, I'll play around with this and see the batterylife/performance.
jonathan413 said:
how do you change the settings of both cores separately as in leave one core ON DEMAND and the second on INTERACTIVE..is there an app that can do that or is that something done on a different level.
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Lol maybe u can do that eventually with ICS but I'm not aware of a way to do that now though. That would be pretty sweet though.
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Mm I've actually scored higher w/ benches w/ leaving the file intact. 6,500 on Antutu on ics and 5,800 - 5,900 w/ the file renamed/removed. But tbh I could care less about benches since they mean jack to me, I'll play around with this and see the batterylife/performance.
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Yea, I'm not saying it was always higher but they were usually. I definitely had some that were lower too though. I never tested that with ICS either. Only GB. But I did notice that UI interactions were a little snappier for the most part
That's why Benchmarks are silly
platinumrims said:
If u want them both on, remove the mdprecision file, or copy it and move it out of the folder, or just rename it, and then reboot and the second core will be on. I usually copy mine to the system folder and rename the original by adding .bak onto the end
I think its located in /system/bin
It does making a difference having them both on, battery life will be a little less but not much. But it goes faster during app switching and such.. it gives it an edge I think. I leave my second core standard on demand, because its fast enough for me like that and battery life is a little better.
Edit: also, generally my phone benches a little higher with both cores active, instead of the stock way and the second one being on demand. Anyway. Try it, xD
Edit 2: Oh also, if you want to revert back, place the mdpresicion file back in the /system/bin folder and reboot. I assumed that was self explanatory, but just in case lulz
I guess its never safe to assume though
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Are you talking about mdprecision or mpdecision?
bbeaulieu said:
Are you talking about mdprecision or mpdecision?
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I'd,edit my posts but that's just too funny
I just found it odd that even in ICS the second core was offline when ICS is supposed to be optimized for dual core.
It wasn't that it came on sometimes under very heavy load... it just never comes on.
And like I said, SetCPU is the only way I have found that enables the second core.
Hopefully people with more knowledge about this than I can figure out what is actually going on.
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I'd,edit my posts but that's just too funny
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lol i just wanted to make sure
Maybe only the Gnex is designed in a way to use ICS' dual core optimizations until actual OEM releases of ICS come out where it somehow enables it.
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Marine6680 said:
I just found it odd that even in ICS the second core was offline when ICS is supposed to be optimized for dual core.
It wasn't that it came on sometimes under very heavy load... it just never comes on.
And like I said, SetCPU is the only way I have found that enables the second core.
Hopefully people with more knowledge about this than I can figure out what is actually going on.
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How do you mean enable it via setcpu?
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First I am aware that overclocking is not "safe" and all that kind of stuff
However for some reason I am unable to OC my SGS2 and run the phone on a steady way.
I have tried several ROMs (stock and custom) with different kernels and OCing apps with no avail.
I am not even able to run at 1.4Ghz or 1.6Ghz without having my phone reboot or hard lock on me.
Is there a particular or recommended setting (most successful combination) that anyone out there can suggest me trying?
Sometimes it will hang under heavy gaming but sometimes even browsing app and regular stuff will cause the phone to reboot or lock. If I work with no OCing at all then everything is fine and dandy.
Thanks, you can see my current configuration @ my signature.
Sounds like a very temperamental cpu. Currently I have the same setup you do and have never had issue with 1400mhz or 1600mhz. Though I usually leave mine at 1200mhz. What app are you running when it hangs?
And just as important, do you have alot running in the background? The modified touchwiz launcher unnamed comes with can be enabled to show a red dot next to the apps that have been opened and are in the background.
If you could list the apps with the red dots.
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The modified touchwiz launcher unnamed comes with can be enabled to show a red dot next to the apps that have been opened and are in the background.
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It does? That sounds more like one of the themes that includes TW4.5.
Not all CPUs can overclock - there's a reason it was sold as a 1.2 GHz chip.
Well as I've mentioned before, it could even hand when browsing through my apps menu, browsing the gallery, playing a game (non in particular) and the funny part is that the phone is not even hot to touch.
What I know for sure if that if no OC = no hangs, no reboots.
I do have the App monitor widget that comes with the stock ROM and currently using it on UnNamed 1.3.1 and I only have Widget Locker App. However I have try closing it and still will happen.
Not sure if maybe this CPU is somehow having an issue that makes it unstable as soon as I OC it.
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Not all CPUs can overclock - there's a reason it was sold as a 1.2 GHz chip.
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Now that is new to me, I thought that all of them were OCable. Is there anyway to identify which can be or not OCed?
nope.. just by testing. it does have to do a little bit with the kernel and rom. the roms didnt originally have stable OC. i would assume that all of them do now. one thing you might try is giving them a little more voltage (just a little) at the higher clocks, but be careful. if you increase the voltage that means that you will sink more enery through the cpu and it will get hot quick. make sure you watch the temp.
i find that setcpu is less stable than the built in cm7 oc menu but cm7 doesnt have a voltage menu.
but on the same token... why OC? i can and i did but i dont need to... everything is like butter and i didnt see that huge a gain by OCing it anyways
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nope.. just by testing. it does have to do a little bit with the kernel and rom. the roms didnt originally have stable OC. i would assume that all of them do now. one thing you might try is giving them a little more voltage (just a little) at the higher clocks, but be careful. if you increase the voltage that means that you will sink more enery through the cpu and it will get hot quick. make sure you watch the temp.
i find that setcpu is less stable than the built in cm7 oc menu but cm7 doesnt have a voltage menu.
but on the same token... why OC? i can and i did but i dont need to... everything is like butter and i didnt see that huge a gain by OCing it anyways
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I know, this Exynos processor is the best out there right now, forget about Qualcomm's Snapdragon on the Skyrocket. I am just trying to OC for the fun of it
Guti1977 said:
I know, this Exynos processor is the best out there right now, forget about Qualcomm's Snapdragon on the Skyrocket. I am just trying to OC for the fun of it
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Although it makes me wonder if the CPU could be having an issue, since it hard locks when attempting to.
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Although it makes me wonder if the CPU could be having an issue, since it hard locks when attempting to.
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have you ever overclocked PC CPUs? if you have spent much time doing that, then you would know that not every chip, even within the same model/family, will clock the same. take 2 CPUs, from the same batch, same model, with identical hardware tied to them. you will probably find that one clocks higher stable speeds than the other.
its very likely the proc in your phone just cannot handle the overclocks that the next person's could.
Like pirate said, no two pieces of hardware are identical. Sort of shows how much variance there can be in a manufacturing process. Id guess theres a few chips that come off the same line that arent stable at 1.2 ghz, but they dont make it to the devices, whereas one that can handle a higher clock will. (No sense tossing one that exceeds minimum requirements, thatd just be throwing good hardware away)
You could try nudgin the voltage up and seeing how it behaves, just use caution.
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It does? That sounds more like one of the themes that includes TW4.5.
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My bad. You are correct.
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To get mine to overclock to 1.4 and 1.6Ghz I had to actually INCREASE the voltage settings via Voltage control app. So my settings are: 1.6Ghz= 1475mV and 1.4Ghz=1325mV
Try those out and see if is better for you. I tried undervolting the higher voltages and would either lockup or reboot instantly until I tried adding voltages. So you may need to play with your settings to get it to work for you.
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twiggums said:
Like pirate said, no two pieces of hardware are identical. Sort of shows how much variance there can be in a manufacturing process. Id guess theres a few chips that come off the same line that arent stable at 1.2 ghz, but they dont make it to the devices, whereas one that can handle a higher clock will. (No sense tossing one that exceeds minimum requirements, thatd just be throwing good hardware away)
You could try nudgin the voltage up and seeing how it behaves, just use caution.
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Yup, or if they want to sell a "premium" device with a higher clock rate, they will take the parts that test well at 1.4 and sell them as such - meaning parts rated 1.2 will be LESS likely to be overclockable if a device comes out with CPUs rated at 1.4 - like the Galaxy Note did.
Before, anything that could meet the requirements of stable at 1.2 was sold to any Galaxy S II - but now, the premium parts are going into the Note.
RockRatt said:
To get mine to overclock to 1.4 and 1.6Ghz I had to actually INCREASE the voltage settings via Voltage control app. So my settings are: 1.6Ghz= 1475mV and 1.4Ghz=1325mV
Try those out and see if is better for you. I tried undervolting the higher voltages and would either lockup or reboot instantly until I tried adding voltages. So you may need to play with your settings to get it to work for you.
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I am having the same issue as the original poster on my new GS2. I will have to try the settings you mention but would it be possible to do this and also apply /UV to the remaining lower (1000ghz to 200ghz) processor speeds and maintain stability?
So I installed SetCPU today. Been testing the kernels ability to work underclocked at the max of 918mhz. Also set the scaling to conservative. After a days use it's been as good as normal full speed, 1512mhz
The battery lasted throughout the day, compared to my first two days of stock settings with only 6 hours of good use.
I'll keep playing. Still want to do some testing and benchmarks to make sure it's not under performing. But at least at the user level it seems to react the same.no lag.
I did confirm the clock speed out side of SetCPU using system panel.
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Don't bother using benchmarks to rate a phones performance that is a fatal error there. Benchmarks never effectively rate a phones performance. I just go by how smooth the phone runs and it does it run everything I throw at it. If so gg pz end of story.
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Don't bother using benchmarks to rate a phones performance that is a fatal error there. Benchmarks never effectively rate a phones performance. I just go by how smooth the phone runs and it does it run everything I throw at it. If so gg pz end of story.
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True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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Izeltokatl said:
True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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Well whatever works for you. Just saying Quadrant is a poor tool to use to bench for many reasons which I won't go over. Antutu is nice for SD speed testing I think, oter than that meh. Benches are just for numbers for people to flex their epeens with. They just really don't truly gauge a devices performance.
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Well whatever works for you. Just saying Quadrant is a poor tool to use to bench for many reasons which I won't go over. Antutu is nice for SD speed testing I think, oter than that meh. Benches are just for numbers for people to flex their epeens with. They just really don't truly gauge a devices performance.
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Benchmarks do have a some good uses... while comparing different phone models with benchmarks can be iffy, it can give an overall insight, (things like graphics capabilities with very GPU extensive games) but in the end user experience and daily use are the real judges.
Where benchmarks can be of the most use, is when comparing changes to the same phone model.
E.G. Comparing performance impacts of AOSP vs Sense, overclocking and under-clocking, and de-sensing/bloat removal.
When used for these reasons, you can get a really good feel for how changes are affecting your device overall. Even then, benchmarks are not the be all end all, and user experience is still important. As you may introduce lag or other performance issues that do not show up in benchmarks.
Which temp root method are you using? Mine isn't staying rooted long enough for me to justify using setCPU at all...
The new version and the one that comes with the newest clean tool stays until reboot.
Marine6680 said:
The new version and the one that comes with the newest clean tool stays until reboot.
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Thx for the info, guess I must still be using the outdated method. I'll run the latest version of Scott's Clean tool and give it a shot.
Izeltokatl said:
So I installed SetCPU today. Been testing the kernels ability to work underclocked at the max of 918mhz. Also set the scaling to conservative. After a days use it's been as good as normal full speed, 1512mhz
The battery lasted throughout the day, compared to my first two days of stock settings with only 6 hours of good use.
I'll keep playing. Still want to do some testing and benchmarks to make sure it's not under performing. But at least at the user level it seems to react the same.no lag.
I did confirm the clock speed out side of SetCPU using system panel.
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Please let us know what settings you use that work for you.
I generally stay temprooted unless I'm going to be away from a charger for a bit and need BT (since you can't turn BT back on after temproot). I wouldn't have SetCPU autostart on boot (since it won't ever be able to get root access immediately after boot).
Meanwhile, I also set it to conservative and will see what that accomplishes.
A kernel needs to support setcpu, stock kernels do not. You need to flash a custom kernel, so you need a development phone or s-off.
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This kernel apparently does work with SetCPU. I've confirmed using other cpu monitoring apps that the clock speed changes are capped.
I own 7 android phones, and have been rooting, overclocking, undervolting each and every single one of them (well one I still cant get rooted). I know when the cpu is under clocked and when it is not. Been doing these tweaks for 4 years now. If you use a tool like System Panel, at stock settings you can see the max cpu around 1500 on our little bad boy. When it peaks out the clock speed is shown. When you under clock it, then check again it won't go beyond the max cpu set in my testing I put a ceiling at 918mhz. System Panel reported full CPU usage (100%) at clock speed 918mhz. Typically with stock kernels, your absolutely right, changes to SetCPU do nothing at all to the real cpu. Which is confirmed, when I reboot and dont have root, if I attempt to use SetCPU and make the changes, System Panel reports 1500mhz (roughly) at full load regardless of what I set it to in SetCPU. If I did this to any of my other phones with stock kernels, you are correct it makes no difference as SystemPanel reports the stock max setting.
No I'm not being mean or aggressive, just saying. =-) And no don't believe me, but test it yourself and confirm or prove me wrong some other way and I admit error. Either way, half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should not do.
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A kernel needs to support setcpu, stock kernels do not. You need to flash a custom kernel, so you need a development phone or s-off.
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No I'm not being mean or aggressive, just saying. =-) And no don't believe me, but test it yourself and confirm or prove me wrong some other way and I admit error. Either way, half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should not do.
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Or I would say, "half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should have always been allowed to do...." Just sayin'.
Are you using the profiles at all? Im interested to know what seems to be working out the best for you.
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True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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In my view, the "benchmarks" would be an OK measurement if you were comparing apples to apples.
I tried running both Linpack and Quadrant on the very recently and dearly departed Incredible right after a fresh reboot and having charged the battery overnight...when the thing should have been at it's freshest.
I got wildly different scores each time I ran it after a reboot...knowing that on both programs the scores would improve the more times you ran the test.
It didn't seem to me that either program was a reliable indicator of what my phone was capable of. I didn't even trust them to tell me whether something I'd done...cleared cache or deleted bloatware...had any real effect.
It simply boils down to how the phone feels. That's not scientific, but it works for me.
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In my view, the "benchmarks" would be an OK measurement if you were comparing apples to apples.
I tried running both Linpack and Quadrant on the very recently and dearly departed Incredible right after a fresh reboot and having charged the battery overnight...when the thing should have been at it's freshest.
I got wildly different scores each time I ran it after a reboot...knowing that on both programs the scores would improve the more times you ran the test.
It didn't seem to me that either program was a reliable indicator of what my phone was capable of. I didn't even trust them to tell me whether something I'd done...cleared cache or deleted bloatware...had any real effect.
It simply boils down to how the phone feels. That's not scientific, but it works for me.
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Linpack and Quadrant are not reliable benchmarks. TBH I don't take any of the benchmarks seriously, they are more for entertainment for me. But to each their own right?
Yeah some of the benchmark apps are a bit unreliable to say the least...
If I use one, I try to use ones that Anandtech uses. I trust them to find the better benchmark tools.
Can we use the V6 Supercharger Script with our Rezounds?
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I havent tried this yet since the device is fast enough. I believe this requires init.d support which only one rom fully supports I believe. my guess is the script might produce lag
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ok thanks for the reply. I used to use the script on my inspire 4g. I don't think I know exactly what the script does. Could you explain for me? I got the script to run but when I tried the kernelizer script it just sent me into a boot loop. My understanding of the supercharger script which I read while it was running was that it frees up memory and changed the scheduler.
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Try latest update that I just posted.. it's REALLY polished and many niggly things have been taken care of.
You can say no to io scheduler tweaks in the KAK script if it caused a bootloop.
It's good for all roms as long as you're rooted and read the help file
Best way to know for sure is do a full nandroid backup.then flash the file and take it for a spin. If it sucks, do a wipe and restore.
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Try latest update that I just posted.. it's REALLY polished and many niggly things have been taken care of.
You can say no to io scheduler tweaks in the KAK script if it caused a bootloop.
It's good for all roms as long as you're rooted and read the help file
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Sound good I'll give it a try. Do you have a guide of what I should basically set things at when it tells me? Like which number (s) to choose. I just wanna be running smooth and fast and maybe be able to choose. It really made a difference on my inspire
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Well RC5 would make a recommendation on which HP settings to choose but there is also the calculated settings that seem to be working really well for anybody who has commented on that feature
If you select option 10 to custoomize it should first ask if you want to use the calculated values so you don't have to type them in.
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Well RC5 would make a recommendation on which HP settings to choose but there is also the calculated settings that seem to be working really well for anybody who has commented on that feature
If you select option 10 to custoomize it should first ask if you want to use the calculated values so you don't have to type them in.
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alright. So what's better to use the calculated settings or the recommendations?
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haha... well I don't know what you like better if you want more apps in memory or if you want maximum snappiness with less multitasking or a balance.
Best if you try both.
I came up with the calculated values because alot of devices actually fall between HP categories so if you'rr right in the middle of 2 categories then maybe the calculated one.
If rather have snappiness. So go with the calculated?
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I went with option 10 all good so far. It says in the script that option 9 is recommended for my device tho. I also have a question about the widget. When I put it on the screen it only shows an icon that starts the script. Is that all it does?
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You can make widgets to quickly powershift to a different set of minfrees, bulletproof one shots, the vac, superclean and engine flush scripts too
How do I do that? When I choose the widget it just makes a shortcut icon
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AWESOME!!!!!!
Can't wait to try this out! Every little bit helps. This script worked wonders for my friend's DX/DX2.
You still with me zepp? Lol
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I just had two boot loops =( one yesterday and one this morning. It was boot looping for probably like a half hour. My alarm didn't go off this morning because of it..
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Did you update to RC5.2?
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I just had two boot loops =( one yesterday and one this morning. It was boot looping for probably like a half hour. My alarm didn't go off this morning because of it..
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I had a bootloop today also, while on the charger. Were you on the charger also?
The only thing that i've done differently lately is this script, but i'm not blaming this script. I havent had a bootloop in 2 weeks, back when I was trying out another kernel.
I guess I'll have to keep an eye on it.
This morning I restarted my prime and im looking at system tuner pro...
All 4 cores are active and stuck on either 475mhz or 1.2mhz!
I didn't change anything...governer is interactive 102-1.6mhz limit....the cores wont turn off or scale down. It would usually scale down to 102mhz and turn off 2 cores...but they're all online...
FAST is good but it's killing my battery =P
Anyone know whats going on?
Pretty sire this is across the board for the most part. This happened after update to ICS or last update. Ive noticed it also but it scales to other frequencies also. Doesn't seem to effect battery too much. Your best bet if you worried about battery is to throw it in power savings mode in Asus quick settings. But no matter what mode its in, it seems to like to stay near maxed out. Maybe Asus adjusted the frequency timing to speed up things in ICS.
apologies
I'm sorry, I didn't see any other posts about this issue.
Thanks for your input
Yeah, I've had the same problem since the ICS update, but still can't find a solution, so I'm waitng for recovery and back to HC.. And, btw, it's killing my battery - it barely holds a whole day since then..
This seems like a plausible explanation for all the reboots people are seeing. With ICS the processor is kept in a more active state which uncovers wafer defects and heats up the SoC until it goes into protection mode.
Some processors handle the load better than others and it seems the spread is veeeery wide. nVidia is probably supplying Asus with parts from all bins, if they even bother to quality check and rate their parts after coming off the production lines.
I would argue that nVidia's thresholds for what is considered a passable Tegra 3 chip are way too low for real world applications.
remics said:
This seems like a plausible explanation for all the reboots people are seeing. With ICS the processor is kept in a more active state which uncovers wafer defects and heats up the SoC until it goes into protection mode.
Some processors handle the load better than others and it seems the spread is veeeery wide. nVidia is probably supplying Asus with parts from all bins, if they even bother to quality check and rate their parts after coming off the production lines.
I would argue that nVidia's thresholds for what is considered a passable Tegra 3 chip are way too low for real world applications.
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Maybe. I can run overclocked to 1.6Ghz n still be fine no reboots. Like you said, not all chips exactly the same though. Small variances between all chips.
I'm hoping/assuming ASUS is aware of this, but just in case they're not, has anyone brought this to Gary's attention?
seeknom said:
I'm hoping/assuming ASUS is aware of this, but just in case they're not, has anyone brought this to Gary's attention?
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I'm sure they do know already. Probably amped the frequency timing up so ICS can stay as smooth as it is. It may get adjusted in new update we supposed to get any day now. New update "supposedly" fixes alot of issues.
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Just took a look on system tuner, mine still scales down to 102Mhz. Not all 4 cores on all the time. It does like to stay in the higher range though alot. It all depends on what you doing and what you have running in background also.
mine used to scale down to 102mhz as well...and usually with the 3rd and 4th core offline
Odd that it has changed....
Thanks for all the input...im gonna try and see if manually updating to ICS will make any difference
*edit: I put the update file into the system root but TFP won't prompt/recognize the update...guess it won't make a difference....I'll try backing up then doing a factory reset
I'm seeing something a little different. Mine scales all over the place, except it barely ever hits 1300MHz or 1400MHz, even when set on Performance and gaming/benchmarking. For example, right now, mine only show 3 seconds on 1400MHz and 5 seconds on 1300MHz, out of 13 hours uptime.
I think ASUS and Nvidia have some work left to do in getting the Tegra 3 optimized. I'd really rather mine actually use its fastest stock speeds when in Performance mode.
Overclocking?
demandarin said:
Maybe. I can run overclocked to 1.6Ghz n still be fine no reboots. Like you said, not all chips exactly the same though. Small variances between all chips.
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How did you get to overclock? I rooted mine, but had to return it because of problems. However, I couldn't overclock it either.
What's yur secret?
Update: Did a factory reset and all 4 cores are still online 425mhz-1.2 =(
Seems like my i/o speed just got worse and now there's severe lag...
*sigh* - will just wait for unlocked bootloader
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How did you get to overclock? I rooted mine, but had to return it because of problems. However, I couldn't overclock it either.
What's yur secret?
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Where you been? Lol we've overclocked for a good while now. Head over into Android developement section of prime. Then check out the "Vipercontrol" thread. Very easy to install n setup.
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I'm seeing something a little different. Mine scales all over the place, except it barely ever hits 1300MHz or 1400MHz, even when set on Performance and gaming/benchmarking. For example, right now, mine only show 3 seconds on 1400MHz and 5 seconds on 1300MHz, out of 13 hours uptime.
I think ASUS and Nvidia have some work left to do in getting the Tegra 3 optimized. I'd really rather mine actually use its fastest stock speeds when in Performance mode.
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That's how its supposed to be. It doesn't run at top speed full time..lol your battery wouldn't lastlong at all if it did that. It only hit tops speeds when needed. Then it scales back when not needed anymore.
As far as your timing showing only a few seconds at top speed, all that means is you didn't do anything the prime needed top speeds for.
If you want to run at full speeds all the time I have your solution. If you rooted get System tuner app. Then open app up. Go to CPU tweaks. There it shows you what all 4 cores are running a piece in real time. The governor should be on default interactive mode. All you do it put governor on performance mode. Then raise your minimum speed up to the Max. Now your prime will be running at top speeds all the time. Now beware though, expect battery to drain alot faster.
I did that trick with my overclock n can have all 4 cores maxed out to 1.6Ghz at once. Battery drains faster than Asus performance mode though. As far as speeds go though, I can put my prime in stock powersavings mode, lowest power settings, n everything still moves fast n fluid. Same with heavy duty games also. There's nothing out on Android yet to really need overclocking power yet. PRIME handles anything you throw at it in stock settings. OVERCLOCKING is just for kicks really andbto make things that much faster. Not really needed. Overclocking will be better once bootloader unlocked and we get undervolting paired with overclocking. That way we can get great battery life and more power. Nothing wrong with overclocking though. I'd say if you not worried about battery life or gonna eventually be near a powersource, go for it. Android developement section of Prime. Its called VioerControl Mod. Very easy to install n setup. Works great. Everyone rooted should give it a whirl if you looking for more power or want to push the envelope.
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That's how its supposed to be. It doesn't run at top speed full time..lol your battery wouldn't lastlong at all if it did that. It only hit tops speeds when needed. Then it scales back when not needed anymore.
My mistake. I'd forgotten that I'd rebooted since running the benchmarks and gaming, so my CPU Spy values didn't reflect them. I just ran some benchmarks and 1400MHz now shows 18 seconds while 1300MHz now shows 2:08 minutes.
I would still like to see that as running at 1400MHz throughout the benchmarks, so I stand by my statement that some additional tuning is required.
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what Firmware specifically are you guys on????
I just downloaded system tuner... I'm running ICS, and my tablet has been rock solid (not a single reboot).
CPU0 is running around 200-400MHz, and the other 3 cores are offline (although core 1 comes online for a bit now and then.) And, my battery life is excellent.... same or better than it was with HC.
To clarify, those of you who are having reboots, are you all seeing all cores on and maxed out all the time?
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what Firmware specifically are you guys on????
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9.4.2.11
Its the latest one available on ICS.
On the contrary...ever since my tfp decided to keep all cores online and minimum 425mhz speed, I haven't had any lockups or reboots.
But my battery life sucks and my benchmark scores are Still horrible.
The disk I/0 speed is horrendous (as stated in the bonnie++ benchmark thread)
Hope for an update soon
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try this for better disk read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455382
jedi5diah said:
try this for better disk read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455382
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Has this been confirmed to actually work or be better? Were you the one that made that thread with bonnie benchmarks on disk read speeds or something? How much of a difference are the scores after installing the kernel modules in that thread?
Ok so im rooted and overclocked and was using setcpu then decided i wanna try something different so i tried system tuner! When i checked the cpu it said that one of the processors are off line! Then i pressed the info button and sure enough it says only reading one! So i went through the settings and found force both cores online!
Since then i have no lag and virtually no checkerboarding on the web! Anyway i was just wondering if im the only one who noticed this and maybe it could help those who say that they are still getting lag on they're roms using dag's kernel!
Also i hope devs will notice this thread since i can't post there yet and take advantage of this how ever they can!
Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
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Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
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Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
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Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
if you want both cores on click on boot settings and enable force all cpus online. that heats up your phone and eats more battery though+I do not see any benefits doing that.
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
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I've had it like this for 4 days on average i will take of the charger at 8am now is 8:30pm and i have 27% but i use my navigation for my Job! By 10:30 or so ill have 15% and recharge!
Settings
1836 max
192 min
Governer
Smartassv2
Both cores pushing
Screen off
192 max
In call
384 max
Tomorrow ill post some pics of battery life usage!
And my phone doesn't get any hotter than normal not even while using my navi! Mostly it just gives no lag and better rendering in the browser/maps/etc!!
I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
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I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
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Same, but having a better processor helps. Like exynos. I bet once we update to ics if it ever happens, the differences will be only minor between processors, as it runs so nice.
Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
I thought I'd play and I have CPU0 running and CPU1 running.
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Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
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Not entirely true.. the Galaxy Nexus has a kernel governor that turns one core off when the SCREEN IS OFF, but not when the phone is being used. Multiple kernel creators have since implemented this into their kernels. It is called "hot plugging" and it just turns CPU 1 offline when the screen is off and turns it back on when the screen is on
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Just checked mine, rooted and OC with DaG's 0.1 version (first version). When I looked, it said the second CPU was offline. Changed it to online, we'll see how that impacts battery life.
How much of an advantage is smartassv2 anyway?
I just tried this with system tuner and both cpus were working but wone was of and on and zero was always on.
I am running stock rooted. If you just sit yhere and watch it you will see tje sevond core fires and shuts down alot.
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
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Same for me (CPU 0 on, CPU1 off, most times) and I'll say I have noticed no real changes in functionality (speed, rendering, etc) or battery life...
I guess jury is still out or is this a YMMV kind of thing?
I installed system runner and watched the cpus. One was on and the other kicked in periodically
Mine said it was offline as well. Forced it on and am not noticing any difference in speed or temp.
Ill leave it like this to test it further.
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Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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As far as I know yes you must have super user permission to alter such system activities
I don't know why everyone is in such a rush to force the second core online, it turns on and off when it needs to.