I've just read that SE enables glonass on there 2011 Xperia line of phones and that our Evo 3d also supports Glonass, it just needs to be enabled!
Read it on this Sensation topic!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395095
And here a link to a Qualcomm blog about glonass support in our chipset:
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/blog/2011/12/15/gps-and-glonass-dual-core-location-your-phone
Hi,
I wonder how it can actually be enabled, since HTC obviously has not enabled it in their Radio ROM for the Evo 3D - so the chipset supports GLONASS, but HTC does not unlock this feature, why?
Jackie78 said:
Hi,
I wonder how it can actually be enabled, since HTC obviously has not enabled it in their Radio ROM for the Evo 3D - so the chipset supports GLONASS, but HTC does not unlock this feature, why?
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Hi,
I wonder if there is any news on this topic, I found that on some other phones, it can be unlocked using a code in diagnosis mode, is there something we can do anything about the Evo3D?
Just drives me crazy to know the chipset can support a feature that, I don't know for which reason, HTC simply did not enable
Jackie78 said:
Hi,
I wonder how it can actually be enabled, since HTC obviously has not enabled it in their Radio ROM for the Evo 3D - so the chipset supports GLONASS, but HTC does not unlock this feature, why?
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Because in Russia folks already got it enabled, in rest of the world GPS rules the world, GLONASS is more country based, Russia in this case.
Very awesome if true Better accuracy is always good (Unless you are operating a machine gun.. then accuracy can be 'too' good lol).
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One possible reason for HTC to leave Glonass support out if it is available might be because it's not used outside of the former Soviet Union so without really gaining much you would probably take a battery hit on a phone which certainly can't afford it.
Well, it's actually better for battery life. watch the vid from qualcomm.
I'd love to have glonass on my evo 3d, i use gps daily and it could definitely benefit from a gps boost!
A Check Box
I do think there is a check box for it in the qpst service programing console. I have not tried it myself tho.
OverByter said:
One possible reason for HTC to leave Glonass support out if it is available might be because it's not used outside of the former Soviet Union so without really gaining much you would probably take a battery hit on a phone which certainly can't afford it.
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GLONASS definitely works around the world just like GPS. I'm pretty sure it is enabled on the EVO 3D because when I check satellite connections I will have nearly 20 sometimes. Pretty sure it is a combination of GPS and GLONASS. I'm in the US.
So nobody thinks this is important - is it???
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GLONASS definitely works around the world just like GPS. I'm pretty sure it is enabled on the EVO 3D because when I check satellite connections I will have nearly 20 sometimes. Pretty sure it is a combination of GPS and GLONASS. I'm in the US.
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So is Glonass turned on or just capable if turned on?
Why is just this little post all there is about it if it can improve GPS?
This post brings more questions but not answers?
Mine connects to GLONASS on coolrom
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Mine connects to GLONASS on coolrom
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How do you know its connecting to glonass and not just GPS?
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Because there's only like 18 gps satellites and I constantly connect to 22-26
Never mind, apparently there's thirty. I was incorrect I apologize.
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So I was wrong. Like xblackvalorx said there are 31 GPS satellites. According to this website:
http://odroid.foros-phpbb.com/t924-...why-does-it-matter-if-your-device-supports-it
If you download the GPS test app and see what sattelites you are connected to 1-31 are GPS. Satellites numbered 65-88 are GLONASS. I downloaded the app and checked. I got 18 or 20 sattelites numbered anywhere 1-30 but nothing higher. I believe this indicates that GLONASS support is not turned on on my phone.
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So I was wrong. Like xblackvalorx said there are 31 GPS satellites. According to this website:
http://odroid.foros-phpbb.com/t924-...why-does-it-matter-if-your-device-supports-it
If you download the GPS test app and see what sattelites you are connected to 1-31 are GPS. Satellites numbered 65-88 are GLONASS. I downloaded the app and checked. I got 18 or 20 sattelites numbered anywhere 1-30 but nothing higher. I believe this indicates that GLONASS support is not turned on on my phone.
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Mine showed up with some satellites marked between 33 and 38, what could those ones be?
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beneath-a-burning-turtle said:
Mine showed up with some satellites marked between 33 and 38, what could those ones be?
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Same here, got 34.
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I went and tried the 3d again for 30 min yesterday. What is interesting is that on WIFI, the 4G loaded web pages faster than the 3d EVERY TIME. I loaded probably 10 pages at the same exact time on both. The 4G always won. Anyone else try this? Was it a fluke?
Huh?
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Oh wow I get it now... Your talking about the two different phones... Lol
I microwaved my EVO 4G so at this time I can't test. But I'm sure you have to manny variables for that test
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Are you on crack?
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There is a setting under WiFi to use best WiFi and its a lot faster
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Think that really depends on what wifi you were using. If you were at BB and everything was connected, its not going to be fast.
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I can agree, seems like 4g loads web pages faster. At home on wifi im getting 21 down and 4 up pretty fast .. on 4g im getting around 7 to 9 and less then 1 up however 4g does load web pages faster on my 3d . Im not sure why but i do notice faster loading on 4g .
Both phones were on the same fast WIFI network.
This happened in two different locations with two different 4G and 3D phones by the way...
Someone else should try this and get back to us.
Also, what is this "best" wifi setting you speak of?
Go to WiFi set up. Hit menu then advanced. Then best WiFi ( says it will consume more power)
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Menu...wireless....wifi...menu button...advanced...enable best wifi.
See if that helps
Edit. You beat me by a hair. Sorry
...adjusting to life without the trackball
Though it seems counterintuitive I think the fact that the 3D has more screen real estate to fill may come into play here.
I have both phones and have also noticed the same thing. Perhaps they have a different definition of a 'fully loaded' web page to compensate for that, or maybe it's the fact that they don't compensate for that.
I can't say that it has impeded my enjoyment of the 3D...that crappy aspect ratio and weaker 3G radio have done that all by themselves, and that's to say nothing of the status of the bootloader and sense.
daneurysm, since you have both phones there, have you tried with both on the "best" setting?
p.s. I also like the aspect ratio of the OG's screen better. Longer and more narrow does me little good...I do not watch movies on my phone.
Which is better for performance.......wifi on the phone or a downloaded app in the market for wifi like Barnacel???
Nexus S is faster over WIFI
All I know is I have the Nexus right here - there is no "best" setting on it and it is faster than either of the Evos on WIFI.
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All I know is I have the Nexus right here - there is no "best" setting on it and it is faster than either of the Evos on WIFI.
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My EVO 3D, while on my home WiFi network at least, is generally running as fast as my computer. My computer is a high end one as well.
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My EVO 3D, while on my home WiFi network at least, is generally running as fast as my computer. My computer is a high end one as well.
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My E3D is faster than my 4G on my WiFi at home. My E3D loads web pages (and does everything) blazingly fast.
tapa tapa tapa
I ran some tests like this with my bros NS4G, an EVO4G, and my 3D. I think the OG EVO finished a tad bit faster about half the time .
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This is reported on most sites (4G faster). I did about 30 3D vs 4G site loading tests and 4G was faster like 25 times.
I'm counting on radio updates to help with this (like it did the 4G...many times)
Yea if on WiFi you need to take the e3d off power save in WiFi settings..I believe that will be the difference here...also like Rocky said it will improve once they work out the bugs
I just watched several videos on youtube comparing the two, and the 3D was faster every time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiRwM_3WL00&feature=youtube_gdata_player
30test site download I did (on 3G) was identical to this.
Hey firmbiz...you mean 'best WIFi' setting right?...there's no power save setting in WiFi setting that I see...
I've seen alot of posts of people getting their new SGS2, but I haven't seen any GPS results. I expect it to be the same as the international, but has anyone used gps test or gps status to see how well gps works?
GEEPEE-ESSSSS - Are you afraid of getting lost in the woods again? Why not put "Witches of Eastwick" on your new fancyphone and take a walk deep into the woods and see if it can nav you out? Street view will be particularly helpful I am sure!
Top 10 Pitfalls of using GPS in the Woods
10: Watch out for those uncharted cliffs.
9: Turn right into bee-hive alley
8. Skunk alert
7. Turn left at large oak tree? they are ALL large oak trees!
6. Nice. A bird just crapped on my head.
5. I wonder where my date is? I wonder what all that screaming is about? I should Google that...
4. Nice of Streetview to warn about all these hungry pygmies waving shrunken heads and standing over that brush covered pyramid.
3. Bear cub on the left - bear on the right - when will Google incorporate travel advisories worth a damn? Really? Bear right means this?
2. Wait - what? Low battery?
1. I wonder if twitter works out here?
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GEEPEE-ESSSSS - Are you afraid of getting lost in the woods again? Why not put "Witches of Eastwick" on your new fancyphone and take a walk deep into the woods and see if it can nav you out? Street view will be particularly helpful I am sure!
Top 10 Pitfalls of using GPS in the Woods
10: Watch out for those uncharted cliffs.
9: Turn right into bee-hive alley
8. Skunk alert
7. Turn left at large oak tree? they are ALL large oak trees!
6. Nice. A bird just crapped on my head.
5. I wonder where my date is? I wonder what all that screaming is about? I should Google that...
4. Nice of Streetview to warn about all these hungry pygmies waving shrunken heads and standing over that brush covered pyramid.
3. Bear cub on the left - bear on the right - when will Google incorporate travel advisories worth a damn? Really? Bear right means this?
2. Wait - what? Low battery?
1. I wonder if twitter works out here?
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Nice, thanks for the laughs Attn1 - and good to see you posting over here.
I gotta agree with shad0wf0x though - I'd like to get some general impressions about the GPS on this device, as I want one that works, and my wife's Cappy is absolutely junk in this regard.
Mine insta locks with 3 sats and will pick 4 more up in less than ~15 sec
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Works great, good as my iPhone's did. The Infuse GPS was awful and it really pissed me off when I was foursquaring, but this phone does it PERFECTLY.
Mine locked on in less than 5 seconds and it is a cloudy rainy day here.
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well I didn't wait, i got 3 sats in 10 seconds or so, got another 4 or so in under 30 seconds, did the update agps in gps test and got 11 right away strong locks (41+ indoors). GPS looks good to me.
Got a fix on 8 out of 9 sats in my living room in under 5 seconds.
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This is good news for old SGS owners.
Good to see everyone having positive experiences with GPS.
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Works great, good as my iPhone's did. The Infuse GPS was awful and it really pissed me off when I was foursquaring, but this phone does it PERFECTLY.
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Weird. The two Infuses I've owned have had perfectly functioning GPS.
Been using the SGII since Saturday and GPS works like it should. Locks within 5 seconds +/-
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Weird. The two Infuses I've owned have had perfectly functioning GPS.
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Really? I was at a Waffle House in Atlanta, GA and my GPS said I was in Chattanooga, TN and no matter what I did it kept locking on there.
I'd be using Google Navigation and it would take like 2 minutes to lock before it started navigating.
I'll echo the good user experience of most of these folks -
Wife tried hers on the way home - google nav got an accurate lock in about 15 seconds.
I waited till i got home and installed gps status - 4 sats within 5 seconds, 7 at 12 second first location fix, inside my metal roofed house on an overcast day. Had 11 sats by about 30 seconds or so - but never reported better than a 25m accuracy...not sure what's up with that. Did not clear or redownload agps data.
Mine just took about 7 seconds to get a lock after opening up Maps fresh and took about 15 seconds burrowed inside my downstairs apartment. Very good compared to my old Captivate and even faster than my stock Infuse - and MUCH better than my Infused version on 2.2.3 (no disrespect to gtg though, it was as good as it could get I think).
GPS is definitely wayyy better than the Captivate ever was!! I got lock within 10 seconds... I'm not disappointed by this phone at all..
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GS2 uses SiRFStar IV GPS chip, way better than the POS Broadcom chip used in Captivate. Anyone ever used standalone GPS unit knows SiRFStar is a brand you can trust in GPS world.
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GS2 uses SiRFStar IV GPS chip, way better than the POS Broadcom chip used in Captivate. Anyone ever used standalone GPS unit knows SiRFStar is a brand you can trust in GPS world.
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That's excellent. Where did you find that info?
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That's excellent. Where did you find that info?
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Various Reviews. The Exynos APU also have a GPS baseband circuit built-in but Samsung decided to use an expensive dedicate GPS chip instead. I think the reputation of the poor GPS in original Galaxy S forced Samsung to do this.
foxbat121 said:
Various Reviews. The Exynos APU also have a GPS baseband circuit built-in but Samsung decided to use an expensive dedicate GPS chip instead. I think the reputation of the poor GPS in original Galaxy S forced Samsung to do this.
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That is good news. I made T mobile replace both of my Vibrant's with new units after almost two years of use because of that. I am very directionally challenged so this was a big deal to me.
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Various Reviews. The Exynos APU also have a GPS baseband circuit built-in but Samsung decided to use an expensive dedicate GPS chip instead. I think the reputation of the poor GPS in original Galaxy S forced Samsung to do this.
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Exactly. The SoC does have integrated GPS functionality, but Sammy chose not to use it. In fact, as you probably know, it's been rumored since the i9100 launched that the brand new SirFStar IV chip was in the Galaxy S2. I'm sure the SoC solution worked, but seeing as "gps issues" was probably one of the biggest complaints against the old Galaxy S, and in such a thin phone there isn't tons of extra space to put a huge antenna, they probably wanted to put the best GPS chip in that they could find!
The GS2 will never rival the reception of a dedicated GPS unit with a big ol' ceramic patch antenna, but it should work about as well as is possible with such a small antenna. At least, that's the hope.
PS, this is supposedly the GPS chip in the GS2. Which interestingly enough actually contains it's own 109 MHz ARM7 CPU. Normally GPS is handled by a combination of the baseband and the SoC, so it's gonna be interesting to see what sort of tweaks and upgrades will be available in the future by virtue of having a dedicated GPS chip.
And non sequitur for those interested, that means there's an ARM core in the baseband, another in the GPS, and 2 in the SoC. Quite a few cores for a tiny little device...
I love the gps on this phablet.
Also, does anyone know of a gps Android app that can average GPS points?
Having a northing and easting mode would be a huge plus as well.
Why wouldnt it do that? My SGS4G and my Evo 4g all did that.
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I love the gps on this phablet.
Also, does anyone know of a gps Android app that can average GPS points?
Having a northing and easting mode would be a huge plus as well.
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Eric-1987 said:
Why wouldnt it do that? My SGS4G and my Evo 4g all did that.
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unless he's saying, from the pic, that its google street view with a current pic of his car and him in it???????????
Yes, the GPS is great, the best mobile unit I've used, excluding TopCon (survey quality GPS).
the aerial was on google maps, and i was in my car parked in the same spot as i was when the aerial was shot.
gps beats the gs2
Hello , i think to buy the prime but i have some quesntions .
1) whats the different between c2 and c3? in my country i found only c2
2) should i wait for t700? i dont need gps , i dont play games , just the wifi problem is the issue i dont buy it know
ill use it only home (big house 3 floors)
Thanks!
According to those with C3s and some ASUS representatives the C3s have substantially better WiFi than the previous Primes.
i have a c3, no wifi problems whatsoever..
gps still very bad..
Isn't that a bummer :-(
I have a c20 which has a better wifi and gps than my previously owned c10... but what about now... sad... just plain sad. The product needed four months of production to finally get better
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why there are no custom roms? like cm9 etc?
thanks
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The product needed four months of production to finally get better
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I have a C1 that is perfect (wifi is very good and gps works) and i know of at least one person with a B0 that has no issues either.
I have C2 here and have no issues with Wi-Fi or GPS...I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
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why there are no custom roms? like cm9 etc?
thanks
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there are .. you are in the wrong forum and wrong thread (look in development area )
My prime is great around the router. It's just bad @ certain areas around the house when its near -70dbm. My other wi-fi devices are also bad @ these areas but the prime takes it to a new level. So the question is how do I fix this.
I'm not much of a tinkerer and I mostly use my Prime @ home. Away from home my Galaxy Nexus tethered to it is absobloodylutely superb. So since my problem is more of a home issue, I went ahead and used an old linksys router w/dd-wrt firmware and turned it into a repeater bridge. Now while it did work for our desktop w/ethernet it didn't perform too admirably with wi-fi devices. It was just too weak. In the end I just bought this here baby:
http://www.amazon.com/Amped-Wireles...0000/dp/B005UBNGY6/ref=cm_pdp_rev_itm_title_2
Okay, it might be overkill but hell yes did it fix my wi-fi issue @ home & backyard like a boss when BBQ'ing lol. Using a C3 while never using any earlier iterations of the prime so can't compare between wi-fi.
Saw this one too though but not much of a traveler/hotel person but may be great for those individuals =)
http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Routers/WL330N3G/
i saw it , but its not popular like roms on galaxy s II or other devices
why ?
abovebeyondgal said:
i saw it , but its not popular like roms on galaxy s II or other devices
why ?
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i think because prime sales are suffering from the bad reputation and low producion rates...
just install AOPK from jermaine, no need for other roms!
ot: atm i'm using my c3 prime outdoors right now, 3 walls and window between router and me , aprox 20 meters, surfing goes well, streaming video is quite impossible.
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i have a c3, no wifi problems whatsoever..
gps still very bad..
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Are you sure that C3 has GPS on board ?
I have a C2... recently purchased from BestBuy... no issues with WiFi... as good as my laptop and Galaxy Nexus... granted GPS is not great, but it does work most of the time when I'm outside...
Another C3 here with good Wi-Fi and GPS performance, even indoors. There's just a limit to how well a low power GPS transmission can be received through multiple walls.
Many phones running GPS indoors are actually triangulating using cell tower signals much of the time, and I find Google Maps is often positioning me through the BSSID of the Wi-Fi AP's it sees instead of through any GPS lock.
That said, I second the endorsement for using a $20 AP (running DD-WRT firmware in repeater mode) to cover blind spots for any Wi-Fi devices. Not as good as the high power options, but they're cheap, only require AC, and are easy to put up.
I have a C2 and getting great (or satisfactory for me) WiFi performance. Could care less about GPS on a tablet. When I'm driving I'd rather be navigating with my phone and not a big tablet that provides a distraction from driving. To me too much is made about the GPS. WiFi issues are a more serious concern in everyday use.
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Pecata said:
I have C2 here and have no issues with Wi-Fi or GPS...I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
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My.c2 wifi is on par with my HD2. Perfectly acceptable.
Indoor GPS locked on to 8.. and saw 11 satellites.
I have a BB from early December and my WiFi works perfectly, even when using Bluetooth for audio streaming. GPS is next to useless but I don't need it anyway (and they are releasing that new dongle).
While the C3's might have a lower chance of manufacturing defect, I don't think that they are any different hardware-wise from the C2 and earlier Primes.
Pecata said:
I have C2 here and have no issues with Wi-Fi or GPS...I guess it's just the luck of the draw.
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It is, doesn't seem that there's any difference with the C3, several users posting their C3 had issues just at the top and in the bt/wifi fallout thread. Looks like you still got to get lucky to get a good one
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It is, doesn't seem that there's any difference with the C3, several users posting their C3 had issues just at the top and in the bt/wifi fallout thread. Looks like you still got to get lucky to get a good one
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I think its been like this from the beginning... There are a small % of primes that have issues, no matter what Serial. Thats the way it is with complex electronic devices
If it was a small %.. there would be a lot more happy posts around this place and the internet in general.. Just sayin.
I'm one of the unfortunate many still waiting on a 32g GS3 and I was wondering how the GPS is working in the 16g versions out there. I have a GS2 (stock) and it suffers from intermittent failures.
Just locked in 1-2 seconds over 3G. Leaps and bounds better than my epic touch
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i've had no issues with GPS and i use on my commute (so home yesterday and to work this morning), locked in pretty quick with no problems...
seems fine to me
That's really good to hear!
Great response time AND pinpointed my location in ~3 seconds, in doors, through half a brick wall.
Not as impressive as I would have expected from reading other posts, seems to take 5-10 seconds for me to get a lock.
No problems with gps here
locked in few seconds under metal roof, away from all the windows
I am kinda shocked...
wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than epic touch
Its great,
It uses the Russian gps satellites as well for better and faster accuracy.
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varaff said:
Its great,
It uses the Russian gps satellites as well for better and faster accuracy.
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is it certain they lock on to Russian GLONASS satellites?