for those of you tracking serial numbers and looking for correlations to "good/bad batches"...
the first tf201s that hit the US had serial numbers starting with BB. it seems that most (or maybe even all) of the units with defective wifi antenna installations came from this batch. units with serials beginning BC started to show up in january, first mention on this forum was on 1/12 (edit: post on this thread indicated BC units were in hands as early as 12/23). although wifi complaints weren't as numerous, we still got a good number of "serial number unknown" issues associated with that batch.
i obtained a tf201-b1-gr (32gb gray) unit yesterday and the serial number starts with C1. this particular unit arrived in california direct from asus on thursday 1/19, so it looks like another batch is making it's way through the states.
this is only one data point, but my findings with this unit are:
- still coming with honeycomb installed
- wifi performance is decent but not great (read: as expected)
- no screen problems (dead pixels, dust, bleeding)
- no issues upgrading to 4.0.3, no lockups/reboots post-upgrade
no changes to the exterior/etc that i can see compared to the original batches, i.e. the microSD card slot is still slightly too shallow and causes the end of the card to stick out.
not sure if asus is getting the manufacturing kinks worked out or if i'm just "lucky". any other C1 findings?
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for those of you tracking serial numbers and looking for correlations to "good/bad batches"...
the first tf201s that hit the US had serial numbers starting with BB. it seems that most (or maybe even all) of the units with defective wifi antenna installations came from this batch. units with serials beginning BC started to show up in january, first mention on this forum was on 1/12. although wifi complaints weren't as numerous, we still got a good number of "serial number unknown" issues associated with that batch.
i obtained a tf201-b1-gr (32gb gray) unit yesterday and the serial number starts with C1. this particularly unit arrived in california direct from asus on thursday 1/19, so it looks like another batch is making it's way through the states.
this is only one data point, but my findings with this unit are:
- still coming with honeycomb installed
- wifi performance is decent but not great (read: as expected)
- no screen problems (dead pixels, dust, bleeding)
- no issues upgrading to 4.0.3, no lockups/reboots post-upgrade
no changes to the exterior/etc that i can see compared to the original batches, i.e. the microSD card slot is still slightly too shallow and causes the end of the card to stick out.
not sure if asus is getting the manufacturing kinks worked out or if i'm just "lucky". any other C1 findings?
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Not that anyone's counting but I have a BC champagne and it is (so far) flawless. No issues and upgrades have been smooth.
Mine is also BC and so far I have nothing to complain. With HC I had one or two random reboots but with ICS is all good. Got it Dec 27th in Germany.
I picked up a C1 last week in The Netherlands here, some serious light bleed going on so it will be picked up for RMA by ASUS tomorrow.
I'm in Canada and just got a C1... has some minor light bleed by the headphone jack... not terrible, but not perfect either.
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I picked up a C1 last week in The Netherlands here, some serious light bleed going on so it will be picked up for RMA by ASUS tomorrow.
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I got some lightbleeding on the upper right side. But its hard to see and doesn't bother me (TFP was not released here yet, so I got no customer service - but I'm good).
Is yours very bad?
does anyone have a photo of a bad case of bleeding? i am yet to see one in the forum.
i picked up a C1 yesterday in the netherlands,
so far no problems. no backlight bleeding and no problems with dead pixels or WIFI.
i`m happy with it! much better than the ipad i got!
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http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=ip...&tbnw=191&start=0&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0
While it isn't a Prime, it's a good showase of bad light bleed.
I received my TF201 with the BC Serial Number on December 23 from Best Buy and have not had any issues with it other than the Wifi being weak. I've ran several Speednet tests around the house and compared the results to my TF101 and it gets on average 50 to 70% less throughput than the TF101. I'm hoping Asus comes up with a fix soon.
I picked up a C1 yesterday from Best Buy in Downey, CA. It is flawless so far. No light bleeding, update to ICS fine, no random reboots, wifi is good, gps syncs almost instantly indoor and outdoor.
edit: eeekkkkkk! another thing to note. my previous one was also a C1 from Amazon, that I got 5 days ago. This unit had major issues: very bad light bleeding, constant random reboots after ICS update, gps sync issues... etc. That one was a nightmare.
I received my C1 WW CBIL Prime yesterday from FutureShop online.
I haven't had any problems. If there is backlight bleeding it doesn't bother me, and upgrading to 4.0.3 went smoothly without any lockups or reboots.
Wifi speed feels much faster than my SGS i9000 though that could be faster rendering. One day I may do a speed test side by side, we'll see.
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For the record, and contrary to the OPs first post, I have a "BC" from December 23rd from Amazon... well before 1/12
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For the record, and contrary to the OPs first post, I have a "BC" from December 23rd from Amazon... well before 1/12
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I have BC from 12/22...works great
I have/had a 2 BC's and have problems with both. First one had no GPS and serial number unknown issue and screen bleed. the second one had screen bleed and no GPS as well. I could live with the screen bleed, but GPS didn't work at ALL, 0 satellites found at all times with or without wifi as well. I should have my 3rd one by the end of the week. I will compare the BC one and the new one I receive.
I have a BC. Received it 12/27. The only issue is ZERO GPS lock. It has never seen a satellite. This is a non-issue for me though.
I just got a C1 today from Amazon. It is charging now and I will come back to update on how things look. One thing I will say is that the amount of variation in quality within and between serials is just indicative of poor QCing on the part of Asus. Finger crossed that mine is OK.
UPDATE: A little light bleed and some unfortunate minor scratches on the backplate. ICS update went smoothly. Not having much luck with GPS indoors, but my apartment is in a weird location where i often even have trouble with my cell phone. So I will update once I can take it outside. Wifi seems fine. relatively speedy and my modem and router are downstairs (I have only used it upstairs).
UPDATE 2: Turns out the scratches were not real scratches. Light bleed persists and I have noticed a dead/stuck pixel that drives me nuts, but is actually really unobtrusive. GPS was a bust, but the vulcan neck pinch seems to have worked. I really do not know what to do. I am loving this tablet but the pixel is becoming/an obsession. Pixel fixer apps don't seem to work. Any suggestions?
Just received mine today and it is a BC model working flawlessly! Mine is the 32gb champagne model.
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Just received mine today and it is a C8 model working flawlessly! Mine is the 32gb champagne model.
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From where?
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OK, before you guys start yelling at me... read my post first.
I bought mine from Fry's BM store, 12/24. So far I have no issues other than getting used to the huge keyboard and sometimes non responsive touch or I have to touch harder than im used to. Every so often I get a black screen when launching settings, gallery etc. But can be resolved by hitting the back key and start over.
My wifi was terrible the first few hours but got much better after. In the bedroom where my iPhone reverts back to 3G because of lost wifi connectivity, my Prime continues to work with 1 bar.
My GPS kept failing to refresh but that's because I unchecked the boxes under my location.
The only big problem I have is that the connector for the charger started to peel away from the pins. My iPhone 4 charger is still very intact and its a year old. I dont get it.
I've been reading posts from people that got theres from Gamestop that has loose parts issues or wifi etc. Best Buy shipped/shipping theirs in just an envelope without padding.
Im just curious as to what batch may be bad or from which store had the most issues?
Gamestop, east coast 12/22, GPS issue and faulty HDMI port. Perfect other than that.
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Gamestop, east coast 12/21, GPS issue , Dust under screen, minor light bleed, unworthy performance (don't think this is a defect).
Sometimes it laggs or freeze completely (goes to a black screen) and causes a FC, also have had a few reboots, trying to deal with it and hope for a update fix.
Most people that claim they have no issues either don't know any better or are in denial about their purchase.
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Most people that claim they have no issues either don't know any better or are in denial about their purchase.
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You are definitely making my night I appreciate it buddy!
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I received mine 12/20, and have a screen defect. Will be getting a replacement unit. Got it from Amazon. 32gb champagne color.
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You are definitely making my night I appreciate it buddy!
Back on topic:
I received mine 12/20, and have a screen defect. Will be getting a replacement unit.
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Picked mine up on the 22nd from Gamestop in Seattle. GPS doesn't function but wi-fi is just as strong as all my other mobile devices. No light bleed. No black screens or os-wide force closures. Some apps are super smooth, some aren't. Not completely happy with any browser's performance so far. But overall there isn't anything glaringly wrong with my tablet... yet.
And I do know better, and I'm not in denial.
Newegg 12/24, Champagne with minor light leakage around corners (only clearly visible during boot).
Best Buy
12/27 finally
Love the thing. No issues at all. I had a few freezes before the firmware update but been fine since.
Even arrived in good shape which is unusual for ups.
All good with my grey TP. No hardware issues... only software.
I bought it Christmas eve at Frys in Manhattan beach.
Issues:
YouTube videos don't play
Camera issues -force closes
A reboot fixes them but youtube isn't prefect and freezes and FCs again.
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Gamestop, east coast 12/21, GPS issue , Dust under screen, minor light bleed, unworthy performance (don't think this is a defect).
Sometimes it laggs or freeze completely (goes to a black screen) and causes a FC, also have had a few reboots, trying to deal with it and hope for a update fix.
Most people that claim they have no issues either don't know any better or are in denial about their purchase.
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Clueless alert!!!
J&R, 32GB Grey, 12/23. No hardware issues I'm aware of, knock on wood. GPS works, was able to lock without wireless, screen is fine, no connector issues, build quality feels great. Not in denial either, because if there is a problem I intend to exchange within my return window! Software-wise, disliked the keyboard, so I got SwiftKey tablet, browser is slow so I use Opera and Dolphin, sometimes I need to repeat touch gestures, but not a big deal. I also may have had one random reboot when trying to charge, but that's about it. Overall, a happy Prime owner!
Newegg, December 23rd, absolutely 0 problems so far.
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Picked mine up on the 22nd from Gamestop in Seattle. GPS doesn't function but wi-fi is just as strong as all my other mobile devices. No light bleed. No black screens or os-wide force closures. Some apps are super smooth, some aren't. Not completely happy with any browser's performance so far. But overall there isn't anything glaringly wrong with my tablet... yet.
And I do know better, and I'm not in denial.
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Ditto. .
Ordered 11/29 from Best Buy, shipped 12/20 and received 12/21 via UPS ground from Fresno. Screen defect (bright blob in screen), GPS didn't work (never got it to lock indoors our outside) and vibration motor created an occasional grinding noise and felt weak/inconsistent. Returned it 12/22 for a refund since they definitely don't have any in stock. Will wait for some time to buy another... if ever.
Newegg 12/22 gps not locking so sold mine in CL dont wanna deal all nonsense shipping back to newegg and wait for refund.ill wait till everything fix by asus.good luck to everyone having them return or waiting for exchange their unit.Happy Holidays pepss!!!
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eBay, 12/21. Screen has a little yellow tint, but it seems like it is going away.
No issues with wifi or gps. Get a lock indoors within seconds.
Gamestop 12/22 . no issues what so ever so far. very satisfied with wifi strwngth, display, and performance. still have to test GPS out though. not too pressed about that. if it works, like its supposed to, great. if not, OK then. ill either just live with it or exchange it. what I won't do is come up here complaining about it. as long as my wifi, display, and performance has been great like it has been, I'm good. of course I want all features working properly but I'm not going to hate the prime or regret my purchase over it.
ill test GPS out tomorrow or later today, I mean
Staples. Ordered 12/22. Got it today. Wifi works well (tested side by side with my HTC Evo using wifi analyzer and the Prime was slightly better). GPS locks in no problem while indoors. No screen problems (e.g. no bleeding, no dead pixels, etc.). Haptics feedback is pretty weak, not sure if its my device or its just weak in general. Otherwise, everything looks good (so far).
Gamestop 12/21 - Very slight screen bleed - possible slow GPS? Found five sat's in 10 mins with no lock. Otherwise good.
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fry's no pre order bought Monday Dec 26. first champagne 32 gb, light bleed 7 dead pixel and no function GPS. exchange Tuesday morning Dec 27 champagne 32 gb. almost perfect but a couple tiny (super super tiny) dead pixel I can live with and a non working GPS, which case so annoying. people need to test there GPS in a car driving and see how long it stay connected. mine keep on disconnecting and very inaccurate in less than 20 miles drive. getting ready to return the second one and hang on to my xoom until something better comes along with IPS display.
Hey. Did someone get his Prime in the last week?
I wanna know if the models are better than the first few weeks models.
I got mine this week (canadian cbil) and the wifi is horrible. I don't believe any fixes have been made yet.
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Hey. Did someone get his Prime in the last week?
I wanna know if the models are better than the first few weeks models.
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I got a Gray from Best Buy on Monday (shipped last Friday), and here's a report:
1. Significant light bleed all around the screen. The worst of the three Primes I've tried out so far.
2. A terrible yellow cast to the screen. I know what people are talking about now when they complain about this. Two out of the three Primes I've tried have had excellent screens (except for minimal light bleed) with good colors. This one is horrible.
3. Haptic feedback is the same as on my Champagne model: mostly just makes a funky sound punctuated intermittently by actual vibration. Call it non-working.
Otherwise, this one is similar to the other three in terms of wifi, GPS, BT, etc.
Got mine this week from Best Buy, Ordered Friday, Receieved Wed.
Gray 32gig.
1. Opened it up and as soon as I hit the power button I saw 2 bright pixels areas against the black background. Not that big a deal at first.
2. Turned it on trying to ignore the on pixels and opened the web browser. 2 more areas with super bright/dulled pixels. So now 4 bad areas.
3. Light bleed on 3 out of 4 sides.
4. Wifi very sluggish when normal laptop wifi works fine.
Didn't try BT, GPS seemed to lock on fine, could have been based on Wifi though.
I got mine two days ago. I haven't noticed any big issues. I haven't bothered with gps. I didn't test bluetooth streaming and wifi performance. Unusual lag from time to time. Couple software issues but nothing that seems hardware related or unfixable yet.
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I got a Gray from Best Buy on Monday (shipped last Friday), and here's a report:
1. Significant light bleed all around the screen. The worst of the three Primes I've tried out so far.
2. A terrible yellow cast to the screen. I know what people are talking about now when they complain about this. Two out of the three Primes I've tried have had excellent screens (except for minimal light bleed) with good colors. This one is horrible.
3. Haptic feedback is the same as on my Champagne model: mostly just makes a funky sound punctuated intermittently by actual vibration. Call it non-working.
Otherwise, this one is similar to the other three in terms of wifi, GPS, BT, etc.
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Interesting, so are you saying out of the 3 TF's you've seen, 2 of them have a cooler color temperature screen than the latest one you have?
Seems like there is nothing to do but to go for the Galaxy Tab 10.1
Got mine yesterday was delivered by UPS ordered from Best Buy 1/5. Everything working as it should...no lifting of the glass...minimal light bleed...no dead pixels...valid serial...only issue a small spec of dust causing a greyish shadow on light colored backgrounds...not that noticeable watchin vids and playing games but web browsing/e-reading it is...thing is i dont want to return this be witout the tab for weeks for a replacement only to get one with worse issues and unknown serial...gonna hold on to this one and RMA it if need be once the major bugs have been worked out down the road.
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Interesting, so are you saying out of the 3 TF's you've seen, 2 of them have a cooler color temperature screen than the latest one you have?
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Precisely. The two are not as cold as my wife's Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, but I tend to like warmer colors anyways so I consider that a good thing.
But man, the third one--ouch. Whites in particular are distinctly yellow-tinged, although everything tends to be overall.
Received my 32G grey TP yesterday. Ordered on 1/5 from Best Buy.
All seems good. Upgraded to ICS without issue. No light bleed. Wifi is a bit weak. Haven't tried bluetooth yet.
Think I am really gonna like this little beast!
Got mine today from ebuyer boxed with both tablet and dock! (Im in London UK)
Had absolutely no problems with it at all, no pixel probs, wi-fi, gps takes about 15 mins to lock with wi-fi off and a few secs with it on.
Upgraded to ICS because it kept nagging me too, and its still running perfectly, no issues here at all, i love it.
I picked up mine today....so far seems good. Updated to ICS, will take some time to get use to that over HC. Does anyone know of the model numbers I got a CBil unit her ein Canada (otherwise it's a BC0K unit)
Finally after long weeks and days of patiently waiting, I got a chance to snatch up my first prime from best buy today (In store pickup 32gb gray)... boy was a I excited!!!
I've been eye'ing this forum and transformer forums since mid decemeber so I pretty much know every nasty/sad/positive thing there is too it.
Despite knowing all the potential risk of having a malfunctioning tablet I took the risk hoping this new batch had some tweaks/fixes from Asus.
To my suprise the tablet i got today was the new C1 serial # tablets.
I had very high expectations and hoped that the negative things i heard about the prime was... just a silly rumor. Unfortunately life is not that convenient and disappointment came almost... too fast. Starting from the intial boot ive spotted 3 white dead pixels and 1 red dead pixel... Boy that was a pretty big blow to the face. I've tried all sorts of pixel unstuck/fixer apps but none seemed to help.
Next thing i noticed was severe light bleeding on top right corner of the screen and along the entire edges on the bottom. For the most part, I really don't mind minor light bleeding. I understand that is the technology we're dealing with right now and ive owned several monitors that had this problem. But the light bleeding on the tablet was too noticable for me to overlook and almost disgusting... for a $500 tablet.
Wifi/GPS *sigh* feel free to skip this as yall seen billion cries about this, i can confirm that its 100% true. Ive upgraded to the latest firmwire ICS bla bla bla, WIFI is AMAZING standing RIGHT NEXT to the router. Other than that i get CONSTANT wifi drops, slow connection, and extreme weak signal... GPS i won't even go there.
Last thing is the dull unresponsive touchscreen. I had the EEE Pad TF101 and had no issues with this but on the prime the touch sensitivity is absolutely horrible. When scrolling on websites it feels either choppy or unresponsive. When i scroll the page with the left thumb the page barely even moves... I had extremely high hopes for ICS since everyone seemed to be crazy about it but in all honesty I didn't experience/feel any smoothness even with forced hardware acceleration.
I gotta say after seeing sow many negative reviews/impression i never thought i'd be writing one myself... I guess i feel a bit cheated as I secretly hoped that I could be one of those lucky guys who had a perfect Prime and wondered what other people were complainging about... Now i can truely understand your pain and disappointment. I'm returning the prime tomorrow to BB and ordering a new one via Newegg - if the newegg one i rcv is no better i am officially giving up on the Prime. It's really sad, I mean after all the hype and waiting you finally get your hands on it and realize the product you paid $500 does not live up to what you've hoped for.
Why release new products with new serials if it doesn't address any of the previous problems?
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So ive returned my C1 serial tablet back to best buy and received my Champange 32gb from newegg today. The serial # this time was BC - immediately ive noticed better / less light bleeding around the top corner but acceptable.
There are 2 dead pixels (white) but not as bad my previous one... at least this time there isnt a red one. Overall the screen responsiveness seems a lot better for me too and seems like overall ICS experience is smoother.
Best of all so far i have not had one WIFI drop nor poor wifi connection. Im getting same d/l speed as my galaxy s2 phone.
I think this one is going to be a keeper for now.
Wow, sir may I say thank you for that I was worried that the C1 would have big display fixes. But, according to you that's not the case anyone else with a C1 have a story to tell? I have a BC serial btw.
I picked up my 64gb version with C1 serial number today. I have some small light bleed in the bottom left corner, but not really noticeable. It's actually in the same spot as my TF101. I will say that my wifi signal is weaker than the 101, but haven't had any drops or noticeable lag. I get 2 bars where the other gets 3. I have fully updated to 11.1 as well. My only issue so far has been market freeze while updating several apps. Hasn't happened again though. I got mine from MicroCenter. So far I'm very happy with it. Very sorry to hear yours is having issues. Hope the one from newegg is better!
Got a Champagne C1 today, haven't had a lot of time to play with it but the light bleed is indeed pretty bad... One spot in the bottom left, all along the right side as well.
The sensitivity is great though, wifi I have not had any problems though I do live in a condo. Seems very responsive, typing on the screen is fine so far (no keyboard yet). No dead pixels. Only quibble I have is the backlight bleed which is honestly only really noticable on a jet black screen with high backlight.
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I picked up my 64gb version with C1 serial number today. I have some small light bleed in the bottom left corner, but not really noticeable. It's actually in the same spot as my TF101. I will say that my wifi signal is weaker than the 101, but haven't had any drops or noticeable lag. I get 2 bars where the other gets 3. I have fully updated to 11.1 as well. My only issue so far has been market freeze while updating several apps. Hasn't happened again though. I got mine from MicroCenter. So far I'm very happy with it. Very sorry to hear yours is having issues. Hope the one from newegg is better!
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Thanks man. So far I never had a bad prodcut from Newegg and im crossing my fingers. Glad your happy with yours.
I just got my BC serial# Prime 64Gb from a dec 25th pre-order from Amazon and I can say I am happy with the screen. There is no light bleed I can see (I might not be as picky) and the screen's touch is very responsive. I do have the reduced WiFi signal everyone else has, but no dropped or laggy wifi signal. It updated to ICS 4.0.3 within 10 minutes and has not had any problems.
As for the GPS, I havent had a chance to mess with it yet.
This is my third attempt for a good transformer prime. Got my 64 gig from amazon yesteday and very happy with this one. Yes its a BC model, but the only issue I have is some very minor light bleed. everything else is fine.
Got a C1 64GB grey delivered from Amazon yesterday. The only problem that I have is a very slight light bleed on the bottom left corner. I have no dead pixels and my wifi is perfect. Screen is also nice, bright and responsive.
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I got a BC serial prime today from staples (canada), right out of the box there 2 noticeable 2 inch long scratch (two of them parallel) on the backplate and a small dot of bluish ink that cannot be wiped off. Also beside the camera rear lens appears to have a small scratch like stain that can be removed. Are stores selling refurbished as new items now?
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Wow, sir may I say thank you for that I was worried that the C1 would have big display fixes. But, according to you that's not the case anyone else with a C1 have a story to tell? I have a BC serial btw.
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There are (nor will there be in the future) display fixes. Light bleeds and dead pixels are part of IPS screens. Even ASUS warranty states that such things, unless they are excessive, do not fall under warranty. If a store takes the item back for light bleeds and dead pixels, it is basically on their head.
This will not change unless ASUS will up their quality control standards and start throwing out light bleed and dead pixel screens, which will drive up the costs of the devices due to screens they cannot use.
Even TF101's have light bleeds and dead pixels today, this won't change. And it is simply more prominent with TF201 screens due to IPS+.
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There are (nor will there be in the future) display fixes. Light bleeds and dead pixels are part of IPS screens. Even ASUS warranty states that such things, unless they are excessive, do not fall under warranty. If a store takes the item back for light bleeds and dead pixels, it is basically on their head.
This will not change unless ASUS will up their quality control standards and start throwing out light bleed and dead pixel screens, which will drive up the costs of the devices due to screens they cannot use.
Even TF101's have light bleeds and dead pixels today, this won't change. And it is simply more prominent with TF201 screens due to IPS+.
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This is true. For the most part i think vast majority of consumers expect such results but sometimes its more noticable than others - thats what kills us. I showed my tablet to the return guy at in best buy and he was pretty shocked too and appologized - return was immediate and no restocking fee. I mean 4 dead pixels and 1 stuck red pixel is def on the excessive side ONTOP of severe light bleeding all across the board.
Thanks to OP, that confirmed me to again post-pone my purchase of Android tablet.
I put a lot of hope to ASUS TF201, but they blew it.
Well, MWC 2012 is just next month, it will be interesting to see the next wave of Android tablets. I don't know, my heart now probably go to the rumored 11.6" Samsung tablet, even though I must swallow the TouchWiz ... *difficult*
NOTE: Probably the one who has no WIFI issue is the one who has "better" WiFI AC/router. Because I think there are quite a lot of range for this kind of device. From cheap mediocre to expensive overkill one.
I purchased two Australian Channel TF201 32GB Golds both with C10KAS***** serial numbers.
I have found the majority of problems people have posted about do not apply to my two units. (each had very tiny light bleed in the bottom left corner, and that is about all)
It's scary how many problems people are posting, seems mostly in the US.
Sorry to hear about your troubles OP, my C1 serial primes have great screens and everything
Samsung, Apple almost don't have these problems. Even my €170 Hannspad/G-Tab didn't have backlight bleeding. I mean come on Asus..
OP, please search or read before posting, i already put up a C1 discussion thread yesterday.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462342
I got my C1 64 gigger from Amazon yesterday and i dont see any issues so far. I am actualy blown away at how fast and smooth this is. I performed the ICS update prior to loading any apps and all is working great.
I see a resolution about dead pixels on my warranty card (local one in Slovakia). There is written that dead pixels does not fall under warranty unless there is a combination of 8 dead pixels at same place. It also specifies whether they are dead "white" or "black" ones.
As mentioned before, I guess it has something to do with a display technology...but honestly, does it really matter for you - 3 dead pixels or some light bleeding visible only in a boot stage?
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I see a resolution about dead pixels on my warranty card (local one in Slovakia). There is written that dead pixels does not fall under warranty unless there is a combination of 8 dead pixels at same place. It also specifies whether they are dead "white" or "black" ones.
As mentioned before, I guess it has something to do with a display technology...but honestly, does it really matter for you - 3 dead pixels or some light bleeding visible only in a boot stage?
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I really hate dumb questions like these. Why ask questions when the answer is almost always relative?
YES IT DOES MATTER...I don't want dead pixels, not even one. I don't want light bleeding...
Its pretty dissapointing that the C1's are having the same issues. Thanks for the update.
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I really hate dumb questions like these. Why ask questions when the answer is almost always relative?
YES IT DOES MATTER...I don't want dead pixels, not even one. I don't want light bleeding...
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I really hate shouting on people, especially when the answer is almost always relative...simple advice - change you Prime or ask for money
After 2 defective launch ATP's, yesterday I finally got a almost perfect unit with dock. My first 2 Primes from Gamestop were a nightmare. They both had every problem reported. The Prime I bought is fantastic. Even the GPS works perfect w/o WiFi. No lag or anything even with the Killer Whale pacing back and forth. No FC's or restarts with ICS. I Love it.
No problems with the camera and flash.
The only 2 problems that bother me is that, no matter what video player I use the audio always lags through Bluetooth and WiFi and Bluetooth do NOT work at the same time. I really enjoy this Prime because the resolution is perfect for my emulators. Anything higher would cause some of my movies and emulators to look like garbage. The Prime and dock really are a premium product as long as you get one that works. Thank You everyone and Gary Key for pushing Asus to finally put out a world class product.
So moral of the story: 1 out of 3 chances you will get the product you paid for.
I think Asus has stepped up their quality control recently.
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So did you get your 3rd TP from GameStop as well or did you purchase it from somewhere else?
So this is very very interesting as it is the second thread that someone has posted indicating a "perfect" prime.
The first thread, I was like "BS" due to the fact that the OP really didn't say anything afterwards. It could, perhaps, be that Asus finally observed the issues with the QC and finally made corrections. After bringing back 2 primes because of backlight bleed, perhaps its time to make another run.
I would like to see the first 3-6 letters of the Serial number, also, if you have the chance a picture of a black background with no backlight bleed. After all, I think you owe it to us to provide some sort of "proof" considering your claims. You just can't come on here and say, "I have a perfect prime" with nothing to show for it when we have so much other material to work from that indicates the Prime is a horrible piece of hardware.
Sure he can. Why not? Why would he owe you anything in that respect?
I think what it boils down to is quality control issues, so it's the luck of the draw... just like there are bad/weak ones coming out, the probability is that there will be ones with no issues as well, and it seems he was able to find one of those.
I mean, mine is as "near-perfect" as it seems to get too... no lockups, the wifi works well, as does the GPS (I don't think it would hold up in real time navigation, but it picks up about 12 sats in a short period of time indoors on the ground floor of my house.) And, it has very negligible light bleed.
That being said, this is my 3rd prime (the previous two I returned due to quality issues - dead pixel, bad light bleed on one of them)
The interesting thing is, I upgraded both of those previous primes to ICS before I returned them (I figured "why not" since they were going back to the store anyways - if they start locking up, no problem). I upgraded them both to ICS without any issues, and used them about 2-3 days each before returning them... not a single lockup on either of them
I'm now on my 3rd prime (all WW SKU), and given that the previous 2 upgraded no problem, I decided to upgrade this one as well. I did, and it's been rock solid.
My friend has one as well, also upgraded to ICS. Also no issues.
So for the record, there's 4 that upgraded to ICS no problem.
QUOTE=Pubnum;22095318] After all, I think you owe it to us to provide some sort of "proof" considering your claims. You just can't come on here and say, "I have a perfect prime" with nothing to show for it when we have so much other material to work from that indicates the Prime is a horrible piece of hardware.[/QUOTE]
My 3rd prime is perfect as well. The gps is weak but it at least works. Not a big issue to me. I think I have fixed the lag-i\o issues as well.
I have a perfect prime n not showing y'all a damn thanggg...lmfao. if you want to be short sighted n believe all the negative stuff then do so. We just just continue to enjoy our devices as we see fit. PRIME is an Excellent piece of hardware when done properly. If it wasn't, I been would've returned mines. Fact for me is, it works great in my day to day use.
I just bought a used prime yesterday on graiglist for $350. Iwas not aware of all issue this table has. I bought like new in box condition and now checking all theproblems list i am happy to say that mine is perfect. No backlight issue, amazing wifi range as good has my laptop, gps connect in a second without wifi, serial number show corret. Im in love with this and getting rid of my useless touchpad
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Ill believe in a perfectly working prime when I see it lol
cyi1 said:
Ill believe in a perfectly working prime when I see it lol
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Agreed, I'm going to wait about two weeks then make another run at it. Lightbleed is the number 1 issue in my book.
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The only thing that bothers me is that, no matter what video player I use the audio always lags through Bluetooth. Can someone tell me how to fix this or suggest a video player with subtitles that doesn't suffer from this delay? Youtube and Netflix work perfect with Bluetooth.
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I had this same problem with my original Transformer, with Netflix and my Motorola S9-HD headphones. I never did resolve it, so I simply started using wired headphones.
Bottom line, I don't think this is a Prime-specific issue...
Mine works fine. My GPS reception is mediocre, but it does work. Everything else is perfect.
You guys need to understand that defective products exist. I recently got a galaxy nexus and the phone had awful reception. Dropped connections every 20 minutes or less. Got verizon to replace it with a new phone which works perfectly.
Mine is also fine. Barely any light bleed, GPS not great, and one miniscule bright spot on the screen (not a dead pixel). Everything else is gravy.
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Mine works fine. My GPS reception is mediocre, but it does work. Everything else is perfect.
You guys need to understand that defective products exist. I recently got a galaxy nexus and the phone had awful reception. Dropped connections every 20 minutes or less. Got verizon to replace it with a new phone which works perfectly.
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We agree that defective products exist. But Asus is clearly having an issue with quality control. And it isn't an issue with just a small few. 90% of them have backlight bleed issues. If you think you don't, you're probably not looking hard enough.
What it really comes down to is what you personally are willing to live with. My prime is great, wifi is strong, gps works (locked on 5 sats last night) however it has a single dead pixel. Is this a game breaker? No. My first prime had 2 bright areas and 2 dark areas. This was a game breaker. I returned it and ordered a new one. Now the new one has a dead pixel however when actually using the prime I don't notice one single dead pixel.
If you can live with the issues you have with your Prime, great. Use the hell out of the TFP and give it great word of mouth. If you have a defective unit and you can't live with the defects by all means return it. I would never advise anyone to do otherwise. I'm a giant advocate for not accepting poor service or quality. I worked the last 4 years doing QA, I know how things go.
However if you can't seem to find your perfect TFP, let it go. Find another device and just move on. We understand your frustration but continually badmouthing something others like/love will only cause contempt and discord.
This is not directed at anyone in particular.
TLDR: If you have a good TFP great, if its defective sorry return it and move on.
Hyflex said:
What is your serial (only the first 5/6 letters)
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BCOKAS
Pubnum said:
So this is very very interesting as it is the second thread that someone has posted indicating a "perfect" prime.
The first thread, I was like "BS" due to the fact that the OP really didn't say anything afterwards. It could, perhaps, be that Asus finally observed the issues with the QC and finally made corrections. After bringing back 2 primes because of backlight bleed, perhaps its time to make another run.
I would like to see the first 3-6 letters of the Serial number, also, if you have the chance a picture of a black background with no backlight bleed. After all, I think you owe it to us to provide some sort of "proof" considering your claims. You just can't come on here and say, "I have a perfect prime" with nothing to show for it when we have so much other material to work from that indicates the Prime is a horrible piece of hardware.
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Maybe I'll take a pic later to show no bleeding. I'm not sure why you don't believe me. Look at my previous posts here. I'm probably the last person on Earth to give the ATP praise. This is the first positive thing I've said about the Prime....and it was hard for me to do so, with all the negative posts I have made about my past experiences.
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Sure he can. Why not? Why would he owe you anything in that respect?
I think what it boils down to is quality control issues, so it's the luck of the draw... just like there are bad/weak ones coming out, the probability is that there will be ones with no issues as well, and it seems he was able to find one of those.
I mean, mine is as "near-perfect" as it seems to get too... no lockups, the wifi works well, as does the GPS (I don't think it would hold up in real time navigation, but it picks up about 12 sats in a short period of time indoors on the ground floor of my house.) And, it has very negligible light bleed.
That being said, this is my 3rd prime (the previous two I returned due to quality issues - dead pixel, bad light bleed on one of them)
The interesting thing is, I upgraded both of those previous primes to ICS before I returned them (I figured "why not" since they were going back to the store anyways - if they start locking up, no problem). I upgraded them both to ICS without any issues, and used them about 2-3 days each before returning them... not a single lockup on either of them
I'm now on my 3rd prime (all WW SKU), and given that the previous 2 upgraded no problem, I decided to upgrade this one as well. I did, and it's been rock solid.
My friend has one as well, also upgraded to ICS. Also no issues.
So for the record, there's 4 that upgraded to ICS no problem.
QUOTE=Pubnum;22095318] After all, I think you owe it to us to provide some sort of "proof" considering your claims. You just can't come on here and say, "I have a perfect prime" with nothing to show for it when we have so much other material to work from that indicates the Prime is a horrible piece of hardware.
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I noticed my bezel seems a lot tighter than my previous primes. I think that has something to do with backlight bleeding.
The Prime on display also had no backlight bleeding. I had made arrangement to take the display model if my Prime had bleeding.
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My 3rd prime is perfect as well. The gps is weak but it at least works. Not a big issue to me. I think I have fixed the lag-i\o issues as well.
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Nice.
eduardmc said:
I just bought a used prime yesterday on graiglist for $350. Iwas not aware of all issue this table has. I bought like new in box condition and now checking all theproblems list i am happy to say that mine is perfect. No backlight issue, amazing wifi range as good has my laptop, gps connect in a second without wifi, serial number show corret. Im in love with this and getting rid of my useless touchpad
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Fantastic.
wynand32 said:
I had this same problem with my original Transformer, with Netflix and my Motorola S9-HD headphones. I never did resolve it, so I simply started using wired headphones.
Bottom line, I don't think this is a Prime-specific issue...
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I really hope I find a fix soon. I need Bluetooth to work for all my movies and anime.
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So did you get your 3rd TP from GameStop as well or did you purchase it from somewhere else?
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Bestbuy.
How are you guys testing your gps? What I do to test is open google maps so I can get a map of my area. Then I drive around the block and see if I'm being tracked real time.
I drove around here in Anchorage with a constant lock on 8. There is a discrepancy of about 65 feet. Can someone pleaase help me with Bluetooth audio delay during video playback? This delay does not happen with Youtube or Netflix. It only happens with every video player I use. Asus wants me to RMA. There's no way I'm giving up this Prime!!!
Serious Question, This week I'm getting my 6th and 7th Prime I have went through 5 Primes everyone of them has had issues, other than GPS. I don't really care about GPS, I have a 4.5 inch screen on my phone, and it works fine for GPS. I can deal with a GPS issue. I'm not saying that is the case for everyone especially the early adapters, that bought it for intended use of GPS.
Has the Prime even made it off the shelf without a problem? I have had to return everyone that I have received so far because of really weak WIFI issues or WIFI and Blue-tooth together made my WIFI useless. Luckily I haven't had the rebooting problem yet, I did have to shut it down a couple times because the screen just started going crazy out of nowhere.
These are the Last 2 I will take a chance on, I will wait for the new lenovo or Acer or even the 300 or 700 if these fail its over goodbye Prime have a nice life. Hopefully someday someone will fix you, and turn you into the beast you could be. If someone was really good at modding they could make a lot of money from the community here.
So basically in all seriousness, I wanted to know how many people have actually got a defective free Prime? Be honest!
Well, I only got one Prime, and I returned it becaouse of screen artifacts and a bright pixel. I hope the next will be ok, but since I returned 5 Iconia Tab A501 in the past due to pixel problems... I won't hold my hopes high.
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I got two Prime, and 1 Dock.
One prime for me, one for my younger brother.
Both our prime are fine, except for weak GPS, no screen bleed, Good Wifi(As good as my Asus netbook, and my brother's alienware notebook)
We ordered from Bestbuy if that helps.
There is a topic with poll, 400+ people are satasified with their device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491431
I've had my Prime since Monday - serial number starts C1. The only problem i've had so far was removing the micro-sd spacer.
(If your micro-sd port is not set square to the primes left hand edge the spacer will rest on the inner edge of the case surrounding the port. Solution - use an electric style screwdriver with a blunt end to press down in one corner and angle out the spacer after activating the spring mechanism.)
Wifi seems better than my HTC Desire, but I haven't checked this with bt.
Nor have I checked the GPS.
No bad pixels.
No light bleed. Though I haven't looked hard!
Browser works fine with good streaming and download speed. (to my untrained eye.)
Charged once for about 5 hours whilst using the Prime attached to the dock, which gave me approx 10 hours of use, including gaming, video, music, browsing and setting up, widgets, apps, preferences, etc before both batteries were fully drained.
Charged it overnight last night and can report 100% charge to both batpacks.
I am finding my feet in ICS as my Desire still runs on v2.2 Their is much more control here, although the layout is familliar it feels like breaking in a new pair of brogues. It will be comfortable eventually! I guess HTC's sensui has a bit to do with the slightly alien feeling I am experiencing on the Prime.
"Touch formica desk" I can declare myself satisfied with an excellent and fully working, problem-free Asus Transformer Prime in glorious Amethyst Grey.
note to self - I must check out the GPS and search for lightbleeds.
Got one prime in January and its been perfect for me ever since. There are some software issues that could be worked out but i'm sure that will come. I dont even have a car so gps? meh.
btw just did my powerpoint presentation yesterday with the prime. It didnt let me down and it went really well. Its just that more subtle if you just have a tablet lying there imho.
Third time luck for me.
The first one had no HDMI output and bad light bleed.
The second had a very yellow screen which eventually stopped working.
I've had the third for a week now and I've had no problems. Everything is perfect.
yup!
I went through 10 Primes total to get a good one. Even so the wifi range is subpar.
At this point I would return the Prime and get a new iPad 3rd gen.
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I went through 10 Primes total to get a good one. Even so the wifi range is subpar.
At this point I would return the Prime and get a new iPad 3rd gen.
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Not worth the money imho, ipad3 I mean.
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had my first one since 12/22. one of the earliest batches. All it took was the first one for me crazy how some go thru multiple ones.
My Prime was neither defective, nor free.
All seriousness, first Prime, received on 12/21/11, and I've never had any issues.
I'm a serious android freak and have never noticed light bleeds or pixel problems on any of them. Maybe its because I don't look for them idk. If I knew what they looked like I'd probably see one or both on all of my devices (5 tablets and my phone) because I'm mental and have major ocd. So whoever replies to this don't fill me in. Thanks!
Better yet I won't come back.
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I have my first prime still. I bought in on Dec 23rd. The last update seems to have fixed my in and out wifi problem. So other than GPS, not working that great, I would have to say its perfect. I do love the Prime.
Defect-free, no problems as of yet. I've had since mid-January.
"Has anyone got a defective free Prime yet?"
I had to pay for mine!
No GPS (which bugs me but isn't really vital) but everything else is perfect and always has been.
No bleed. No dead pixels. OK WiFi. Can stream video & use BT headphones
My only slight issue is the Ally case where the power cord plugs in, has bent very slightly. No idea why or how.
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Mine is perfect pretty much.
sometimes it seems like the wifi is slightly weaker - but I think its a placebo effect because I'm waiting for it to mess up.
Don't really use my gps but the 3 or 4 times ive fired up google maps it was right on the dot.
no light bleeds.
Got mine on December 30th and has been perfect since. The one time o tested GPS I got fixes and everything, have not used it since but as soon as I do need it for something I will definitely report how it goes, though who knows when that will be as in over two months I have yet to actually need it for a single thing. My wifi is just fine and has worked perfectly in a plethora of places. I have yet to have a place where I can connect and not been able to.
I can detail the rest but would rather not. My prime has been perfect for me and defect free. I don't consider the tiny amount of light bleed I have in the bottom left corner a defect. I can only see it during bootup which is only during is updates as otherwise I never restart. It is absolutely 100% invisible during all normal usebi have put it through in time of my ownership.
So yeah, first prime and defect free.
My first prime ordered on December 26th the camera did not work, everything else was great. Second prime no issues whatsoever.
1st Prime here- C1. No issues at all, besides GPS. Solved that with Bluetooth2GPS & my Nexus. Was worth every penny to me so far perfect compliment to my phone