Is there any way i can flash windows mobile os on my o1. I am using "Launcher 7" right now. Love the big tiles,fonts and animation. But the style is not applied to applications
Okay, so yes, I'm rewriting my post. So sue me.
Yes, it's theoretically possible. The processors used are similar, as is most of the rest of the hardware. However, to do this, one would have to go in and rewrite the WiMo kernel to run on the hardware, then make certain that the shell would cooperate with the kernel, et cetera. I'm certain you could possibly pay someone to spend the time, energy, effort, and blood and sweat on doing so, but it'd be pretty much a waste of time.
If you're really attempting to get the programs to be visually 'aesthetic' in a similar fashion, I would suggest learning what you need to do to reprogram the apks.
I like windows ui
Why is it that there isn't just one version of android that will install on all phones? I mean, you can install windows on any pc regardless of spec and it automatically finds drivers for internal parts and makes them work? why can't this be done for android? would be miles easy for developers if you could just take a rom from say a dell streak and put it on say a galaxy s and vice versa, seems ****ing retarded to me that this isn't the case with android? Love my streak and android as a whole, but would be so much easier if the updates were dependant on the companies that made the phone and were just dependent on when google updates the software!!
Alexanderbooth said:
Why is it that there isn't just one version of android that will install on all phones? I mean, you can install windows on any pc regardless of spec and it automatically finds drivers for internal parts and makes them work? why can't this be done for android? would be miles easy for developers if you could just take a rom from say a dell streak and put it on say a galaxy s and vice versa, seems ****ing retarded to me that this isn't the case with android? Love my streak and android as a whole, but would be so much easier if the updates were dependant on the companies that made the phone and were just dependent on when google updates the software!!
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Haha, first of all, are you genuinely serious? I loved the os of the ps3 why cant I have that on my xbox 360, come on mate, really. If that was the case, then we would probably just need 1 type of phone with every release of android software, example iphone.
Android allows people to have a nice choice of phones from different manufacturers.
I personally, think android is 10 times better than any other simply because of the control the users have, we can purchase an android phone and customize the hell out of it to our liking, yet you have no choice to jailbreak an iphone to have half the options android users get out the box.
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Yes in a perfect world that would work, "one OS for any phone" but the truth of the matter is that it is a driver issue, and manufacturers want to make a profit. There are too many different manufacturers of components and not all of them are compatible with each other, get out dated or don't meet recommended minimal specs. Example is trying to put Windows 7 on a P2 machine. Maybe it will install, but you are not going to get much if any of the benefits of the new OS. Or if you put win 7 on a Mac. Sure it will work, but it is not going to be on a machine that it was designed to run on spec wise. Believe me, I wish it was that simple, but unfortunately it is not. We can dream though.
It has a lot to do with the drivers, unless every phone was identical internally (or each generation identical internally) there are no drivers for that specific device.
PCs are much more standardized when it comes to hardware working with drivers. Most important components like video/audio/ I/O have standard fallback modes and their specific drivers. That's why you can install windows or linux or whatever on a system and at least expect it to boot and most of the stuff to work. They have generic drivers that will do the minimum required for it to function, but not much more.
From a user perspective drivers are much more diffucult with regards to *nix then with windows, this is especially true with regards to android (as it uses the linux kernel)
Windows has standardized (as in they have published the specs and adhere to it) driver frameworks and spend a good deal of testing time making sure 3rd party drivers will remain reasonably compatable. Usually it goes smoothly enough when releasing a new standard, when it goes bad you get what happened with vista where the drivers were the main cause of instability. Most of the time you can use drivers written for win 95 on win7 x86 and there's still a fair chance it might STILL work depending on how well the driver was written (this is a gross oversimplification, there's an entire class of win 9x drivers that wont work, but the other class will).
With linux driver compability is much less clear cut, many important drivers are available as source, and it's very possible (but requires a fair deal of planning ahead) to build a pc and only use source code drivers.
If something is only available as binary drivers you're at the mercy of the manufacturer to keep it updated and working.
This is why android is so difficult to roll out timely updates. The kernels in 2.2 are very different from 2.3/3.x and rewriting the drivers for it is what accounts for ~90% of the work (assuming your device is powerful enough to update in the first place)
The full driver sourcecode isnt often made available for android devices, so you either have to spend time writing your own or attempting to adapt the binary drivers to make it work. This is what is happening with streakdroid 2.x
The other critical point is that the bootloader must be willing to load 3rd party code.
There's a fair amount of devices that have had android ported to them because they were:
1) Able to load 3rd party code (either by hacking the bootloader or it allowing it on it's own)
2) They either had comparable drivers or were willing/able to write their own
3) There were enough devs to take the time to accomplish this in the first place
4) Android is open source so it's possible to write your own drivers in the first place (techinally all you might need is the driver sdk, but no mobile os has only a driver sdk available, it's either all or nothing)
Being open source has absolutely nothing to do with being able to install it on any device.
Winmo 6.5 is closed source (sorta, it's somewhat like shared-source) but it's just as easy to port over. But there's little to no interest to porting it to new devices.
Win8/arm might be like how windows is on the pc IF they keep drivers the way they are. If ms decides to incorporate them the way linux does it wont be any different then what android is experiencing now (though it's kinda unlikely, windows has always loaded drivers as seperate modules, and they're likely actively paying attention to that with win8)
I will just add that in my very humble opinion the OP wasnt by NO MEANS asking a dumb question (and it would rule to have standardized drivers for phones)
(and btw, great writeup manii. this might as well fit in some android related blog.)
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Haha, first of all, are you genuinely serious? I loved the os of the ps3 why cant I have that on my xbox 360, come on mate, really. If that was the case, then we would probably just need 1 type of phone with every release of android software, example iphone.
Android allows people to have a nice choice of phones from different manufacturers.
I personally, think android is 10 times better than any other simply because of the control the users have, we can purchase an android phone and customize the hell out of it to our liking, yet you have no choice to jailbreak an iphone to have half the options android users get out the box.
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O M G!!! android fanboys!! your worst than apple fanboys, when did I even mention the iphone or what makes android so good? or installing other peoples software on to other hardware, I'm only talking about android and its phones you turn everything into android is better than ios blah blah blah blah blah!! Shut the **** up and go to another thread!!
The other people in the thread, yeah I kinda knew it was down to driver issues, but I didn't think it was that complex. Android imo is the best os I've ever experience in my life, even better than windows 7. But for me, I actually think the only 1 draw back the os has, is the fragmentation of the updates. Is this possiblity of one android os to work on all android phones, so you can just download the update.pkg from google and just install it on any android phone, or is this something that was never intended and because of how its developed its to late to go back and change this? or is it something google has in the pipeline?
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O M G!!! android fanboys!! your worst than apple fanboys, when did I even mention the iphone or what makes android so good? or installing other peoples software on to other hardware, I'm only talking about android and its phones you turn everything into android is better than ios blah blah blah blah blah!! Shut the **** up and go to another thread!!
The other people in the thread, yeah I kinda knew it was down to driver issues, but I didn't think it was that complex. Android imo is the best os I've ever experience in my life, even better than windows 7. But for me, I actually think the only 1 draw back the os has, is the fragmentation of the updates. Is this possiblity of one android os to work on all android phones, so you can just download the update.pkg from google and just install it on any android phone, or is this something that was never intended and because of how its developed its to late to go back and change this? or is it something google has in the pipeline?
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Well I am glad Alexander cleard that up. I totally see now tht he was referring to one android update for all "android" phones. Which in theory, would be nice and possibe be the solution to so mny segmented releases.
Android fanboy?? Grow up, first of all I wont as you say **** off to another thread, you didnt get my point, but thats ok I can tell by your answer and generally by your original question that your not that bright, thats ok buddy.
I own an iphone 4, to run apples os I have to own an apple product (the phone) which for me is too small, I would like a bigger screen, so im stuck.
With android different manafacturers are in competition for what the people want and offer a huge variety of phones. Yes its a bit of a pain in the arse to install custom roms on them but once you know how its pretty easy.
At the end of the day to have one os that would go on any phone would be nice but then really whats the point in having a whole bunch of different phones. I like the way android is, I own as I said a earlier an iphone 4 and a dell streak, I find myself using the dell more, simply because I can make it my own.
Also ....me fanboy, you said you like android better than windows...the most popular os al over yhe world.
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Well I am glad Alexander cleard that up. I totally see now tht he was referring to one android update for all "android" phones. Which in theory, would be nice and possibe be the solution to so mny segmented releases.
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Yeah I know, coming from having the dell streak, and only having one upgrade while I've had the phone, I just can't understand why phone manufacturers go to all this trouble creating there own version of android when they could easily outsource this part of the phone to Google. I'm sure it would also make it easier for app developers to make there app work on all android phones. Seems so strange to me growing up with windows and being able to just buy a new pc and just get your windows cd out and bosh on windows, and it works. Does anyone know if this will ever happen or do the phone manufacturers want to have there own version of android, so they can fill it with there own apps?
To me even if they did still want there own versions of android, they should still give you the option of returning to stock android and just going to google for the update.
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Android fanboy?? Grow up, first of all I wont as you say **** off to another thread, you didnt get my point, but thats ok I can tell by your answer and generally by your original question that your not that bright, thats ok buddy.
I own an iphone 4, to run apples os I have to own an apple product (the phone) which for me is too small, I would like a bigger screen, so im stuck.
With android different manafacturers are in competition for what the people want and offer a huge variety of phones. Yes its a bit of a pain in the arse to install custom roms on them but once you know how its pretty easy.
At the end of the day to have one os that would go on any phone would be nice but then really whats the point in having a whole bunch of different phones. I like the way android is, I own as I said a earlier an iphone 4 and a dell streak, I find myself using the dell more, simply because I can make it my own.
Also ....me fanboy, you said you like android better than windows...the most popular os al over yhe world.
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Your saying I'm not bright, but your comment to my original question had no relevance to what I was asking at all, you didn't even slightly attempt to answer what I had asked.
Hi,
I know lilsteve is working for an Ubuntu port for the Transformer Prime and I may be a bit rude by saying this, but I am getting soooo impatient checking everyday for at least more than a half year; if there was any progress but sadly none what I have found out anyways except that there is major problems with the ASUS kernel and thus the progress will be delayed for maybe another 6 months.
Okay so the ASUS has a problem with its kernel... Isn't it possible to switch to whatever kernel, I think most people here are not interested in dual booting from Android to Ubuntu. I think we are more settled to say bye-bye to Android and stay permanently on Ubuntu.
Isn't it possible now that I have nvflash to,
Install any kernel on my device?
Especially a kernel that supports tegra3 drivers for graphics acceleration? and then install Ubuntu or whatever linux distro that you favour?
Maybe I have gotten this wrong, but it seems lilsteve is trying to adjust Ubuntu to the ASUS kernel (which seem to suck anyhow)...
What I am asking here basically is that I only want Ubuntu or preferably Archlinux on my device with tegra3 drivers without a care in the world for Android.
would also love to read an answer to this post.
And one more question, how far ist listevie with the development of ubuntu? I´m a noob so i dont really understand all of the talk in the developer forum. Just one more thing to say, ubuntu on the prime would be awesome! Thanks to the people who are working on it
i need a very simple way to flash my phone with ubuntu touch please
thought it would be simpler to just paste the thread title.... im running in circles trying to accomplish this but keep smashing into brick walls....
tried installing from Ubuntu itself.. its an old version.. too old to understand the $ cmd.......when it comes to linux im a complete moron..... but im smart enough to know that my samsung Ace2 is too damned slow on android.. to the point im having difficulty answering calls
i want android GONE.. i dont want dual boot.. i want android GONE
and, i want a simple install please.. as simple as wubi.exe... in fact it was the only way i was capable of installing ubuntu or xubuntu on my notebooks.. yes ladies and gents.. im converted.. im done with microsoft, most likely 4 good... so please tell me how i can accomplish this task
thank you, much regards to all you for keeping linux alive till today...
Chris
Ubuntu Touch is not for your device... Sorry.
There is the deprecated Ubuntu for Android.
Try this XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009
RumoredNow said:
Ubuntu Touch is not for your device... Sorry.
There is the deprecated Ubuntu for Android.
Try this XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009
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might i ask why my smartphone isnt elidgible ?
ragez0r said:
might i ask why my smartphone isnt elidgible ?
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It will only work if there's a port for your device. Sadly, mobile devices aren't as easy to handle as desktop computers. On the desktop you can take the OS and install it on (almost) all devices because it includes drivers for all standard PC components. On mobiles, however, you need separate drivers for every device as all devices are special and (more important) the manufacturer often does not make it easy for devs to write the necessary drivers. Always remember, we who are modding our phones are a minority.
You shouldn't be too sorry about the absence of a port for your device though. Ubuntu is (even though it's rapidly making progress) much slower than Android, even on officially supported devices.
thank you, but i wont give up.. i downloaded kali linux.. now just trying to figure out a way to open a .img file from android
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thank you, but i wont give up.. i downloaded kali linux.. now just trying to figure out a way to open a .img file from android
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Dude, you are going to brick your phone. You can't just flash whatever to wherever.
Your phone was built for Gingerbread. It is thin on Hardware resources. I'm sure it is struggling if you've updated it into Jelly Bean. There are alternate ROMs that might run better on an Ace 2. Check the Ace 2 forum at XDA... http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-ace Debloat the damn thing. Samsung layers so much icing on there you can't taste the actual cake. I mean the skin (Touchwiz) is sooo thick it robs the performance. Especially at your phone's age and the major jumps in OS version it's gone through. You've got to blast out a lot of the grunge that's clogging the pipes.
If you truly want away from Android get a phone designed for another OS. You can get a brand new phone fairly inexpensive off contract and not have to deal with Android. I like the Nokia Lumia 520. A great entry level phone that is modern and runs well without breaking the bank. Or maybe you can find a quality used phone on Craig's list.
i find it hard to believe a bricked ace 2 is any different than a functional 1.. i never flashed anything onto it...
okay.. ill try downgrading it to gingerbread..... need to figure out how though lol
ragez0r said:
i find it hard to believe a bricked ace 2 is any different than a functional 1.. i never flashed anything onto it...
okay.. ill try downgrading it to gingerbread..... need to figure out how though lol
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Dude, not to be an ass. But there are a couple things... You will need to develop your own drivers. If you do (somehow) get a standard Linux distro installed, you won't even be able to get the screen to turn on. Second of all....YOUR PHONE CAN BARELY RUN ANDROID! What makes you think it can handle a full Linux operating system like Kali Linux? And the last thing you need to realize. You WILL NOT be able to make calls, text, or get mobile data on your phone. If the phone is that bad...go out and get a new phone. Sorry man.
So, I recently got an X131e Thinkpad. And the operating system is... functional, but lacking. I definitely want to run Android apps and all that good stuff, but there's no official support. So I figured I'd turn to open source. For Android phones and tablets, the community does a good job of providing updated OS's after the manufacturers have stopped making new firmware. So, what are my options?
I'd kind of like to stick with a ChromeOS-type system. I'm not sure what the compatibility is, though. Can I get a good system that will support Android apps? FydeOS maybe? Would that do it? I've been trying to find out the compatibility, but Google just leads me down a hundred different rabbit holes. I want to be sure any OS will be worth installing, and will work for what I want, before I take the big step of installing it. I'd hate to go to a lot of trouble only to end up with a crippled computer.
Failing an open-source type of ChromeOS, what do I do? Gallium? Crouton thing where I have two parallel OS's? I want to stick to a Chrome OS and have support for Android apps, just because I'm familiar with Android, and not a fan of endless command lines. But if Linux is the only alternative (aside from some type of Windows or MacOS), I guess I'll have to be open to that. Maybe the thing where I have two operating systems running at once (yes, yes, Linux isn't really an operating system, yadda yadda.) So what are my options?
And I've never done this with a Chromebook before. Never. What do I do? Gonna need the foolproof newb tutorial.
Thanks for any help.
Maybe thy this, I worked for me, just make sure that your computer supports UEFI.