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Hey guys, newbie here and I got some questions for y'all.
I am a longtime iPhone user, thinking about switching over to the Vibrant. I'm used to the jailbreaking/unlocking of the iphone...are similar things able to be done to the Vibrant?
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Hey guys, newbie here and I got some questions for y'all.
I am a longtime iPhone user, thinking about switching over to the Vibrant. I'm used to the jailbreaking/unlocking of the iphone...are similar things able to be done to the Vibrant? Can you install hacked apps? Where do you go for the apps? How do you install them?
Please, point me in the right direction of where I need to look. I'm so used to not paying for apps, I'd like to stick with that
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Ok a few things.
Yes, you can root the vibrant and install custom roms.
On the iPhone you can install hacked apps, meaning you don't pay for them, techinically you can do the same on an Android phone by just having the apk file, however this is frowned upon because that is stealing. Why not just pay for the app? Apps are cheap on Android.
If you are a current iPhone user and if you purchase the Vibrant, YOU WILL BE UNHAPPY. I suggest you wait for the iPhone 5 which will be released in June, or wait for the dual core Android phones coming out. Do not get the original Vibrant.
Ps...the Vibrant 4G is going to be released soon. You can also get the Nexus S at best buy.
btw coming to xda and saying you don't pay for apps and you steal them was not a wise idea.
Go back to the iphone, this isn't the place for you.
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dcpetterson said:
Go back to the iphone, this isn't the place for you.
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oh yeah, why's that?
dcpetterson said:
Go back to the iphone, this isn't the place for you.
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Stay classy!
OP:
Yes, you can "jailbreak", for Android it is called root, and in turn you can install custom ROMs, Kernels, and for the Vibrant "modems" (radio's on other phones). As for "free" apps, Android, unlike iOS, has TONS of free apps already. Developers tend to offer a free and paid version, main difference is the free version has ads in it. Developers actually make more money off the ad revenue (typically) than the paid versions. There are still apps that are only paid, or the full version are paid only, and to be very honest trying to get those for free is BS in my opinion, especially given the prices.
This site is FULL of all the info you need to root any Android phone and start loading custom ROMs. It is very addictive, and compared to the iPhone, it is like living in America versus living in China in terms of freedom to do what you want. In China (iPhone) you are limited in your ways, and can do as you please to an extent. Where as in America (Android) you are free to do as you please, but have a great infrastructure to help guide you and aid you in such venturers.
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btw coming to xda and saying you don't pay for apps and you steal them was not a wise idea.
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He said it well, and I'm not gonna flame you, although I really want to, this just isn't right for you.
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I am not on AT&T, I am on T-Mobile. I have had a 3G for the last 2 years, but with the new ios4.3 comes out, it will not have an update for the 3G, they are getting fazed out. So I'm moving away from the iphone for a while, may get a 4 down the road.
I understand cracked apps are illegal, a TMO CSR pointed me to this website, so if cracked apps aren't talked about here fine, I didn't know. I was just going where I was told by Tmobile to get information regarding it. Simple as that.
I have a free 2 year upgrade at TMobile right now, so I'm looking between the Vibrant and the MyTouch 4G. Right now I'm using a Blackberry Bold 9780.
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I am not on AT&T, I am on T-Mobile. I have had a 3G for the last 2 years, but with the new ios4.3 comes out, it will not have an update for the 3G, they are getting fazed out. So I'm moving away from the iphone for a while, may get a 4 down the road.
I understand cracked apps are illegal, a TMO CSR pointed me to this website, so if cracked apps aren't talked about here fine, I didn't know. Please point me towards the website where it is talked about.
I have a free 2 year upgrade at TMobile right now, so I'm looking between the Vibrant and the MyTouch 4G. Right now I'm using a Blackberry Bold 9780.
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Warez is not just frowned upon, but is grounds for banishment on XDA, and actually every single decent Android site. Explaining how to get it, where to get it, or giving it out is a major no no, and asking (especially after being told) is a no no as well.
This isn't iOS where everything costs money, this is Android where you can literally get 95% of apps for free from the market. There is no need to steal, not that there is on iOS (I have an iPad, love it, and have paid for my fair share of apps even though it is jailbroken).
Lastly, if that is your only desire in a phone, then just don't get one. If all you want to do is use your phone to steal, then you don't deserve to have a phone.
dude, relax! I said I didn't know it was against the rules here. I WAS DOING WHAT THE TMOBILE REP TOLD ME TO DO! I will edit my original post so you don't get butt hurt, it's a simple f'in mistake. Get your panties out of a bunch!
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dude, relax! I said I didn't know it was against the rules here. I WAS DOING WHAT THE TMOBILE REP TOLD ME TO DO! I will edit my original post so you don't get butt hurt, it's a simple f'in mistake. Get your panties out of a bunch!
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You were told multiple times it is a no no, and in turn decided to ask again. At that point it isn't a question of not a knowing, it is clearly a matter of not caring.
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You were told multiple times it is a no no, and in turn decided to ask again. At that point it isn't a question of not a knowing, it is clearly a matter of not caring.
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hey slick, the first reply to this came edited in afterwards...the original post said simply "OK" and then he came back and edited it with his information. Pay attention. If I didn't care, I wouldn't have removed it! I understand you're perfect and never make mistakes, my apologies!
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Hey guys, newbie here and I got some questions for y'all.
I am a longtime iPhone user, thinking about switching over to the Vibrant. I'm used to the jailbreaking/unlocking of the iphone...are similar things able to be done to the Vibrant? Can you install hacked apps? Where do you go for the apps? How do you install them?
Please, point me in the right direction of where I need to look. I'm so used to not paying for apps, I'd like to stick with that
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Welcome to XDA! I came to the Vibrant from the iPhone 3G and I love it, as one has said you can steal apps but no one here will help you with that, also apps seem to generally cheaper on android than they are on iOS.
Depending on what you are looking for you may be happier where your currently have. Android's market is growing quiet well but I feel that it currently doesn't match the iOS market when it comes to games, so if games are your thing I would stay away (but we do have great emulators!) Many things may have changed in iOS since I used it last back in 3.0 something another.
Now few things I love personally love about android! Google Voice is easily used, Ive been using it for about 2 years now and haven't given out my real number since, its the best! Google maps is amazing, always getting updates haven't used a standalone gps since. You can customize the desktop however you feel please (don't need winterboard and everything, its just a ton easier). Swype is pure amazing, I could never go back to normal texting after getting use to it, super fast! And finally googles voice integration, you can talk and have it type what is said, you can have it search for you or even open your google maps and have it set your navigation!
As I'm sure you've noticed by now the forum has a lot of idiots who have nothing to add to the community except their derogatory remarks, sadly they don't seem to ever go away do they?
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Welcome to XDA! I came to the Vibrant from the iPhone 3G and I love it, as one has said you can steal apps but no one here will help you with that, also apps seem to generally cheaper on android than they are on iOS.
Depending on what you are looking for you may be happier where your currently have. Android's market is growing quiet well but I feel that it currently doesn't match the iOS market when it comes to games, so if games are your thing I would stay away (but we do have great emulators!) Many things may have changed in iOS since I used it last back in 3.0 something another.
Now few things I love personally love about android! Google Voice is easily used, Ive been using it for about 2 years now and haven't given out my real number since, its the best! Google maps is amazing, always getting updates haven't used a standalone gps since. You can customize the desktop however you feel please (don't need winterboard and everything, its just a ton easier). Swype is pure amazing, I could never go back to normal texting after getting use to it, super fast! And finally googles voice integration, you can talk and have it type what is said, you can have it search for you or even open your google maps and have it set your navigation!
As I'm sure you've noticed by now the forum has a lot of idiots who have nothing to add to the community except their derogatory remarks, sadly they don't seem to ever go away do they?
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what exactly is google voice? And how does that enable you to not give out your real number?
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what exactly is google voice? And how does that enable you to not give out your real number?
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Its quicker if I just point you to it, Google Voice
The link has short videos that would explain what it is better than I would.
Back when I got started using it, it was a closed to public but now anyone can sign up for it.
Interesting, never even heard of that before.
Are you using the 2.3 or 2.2 on yours?
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Interesting, never even heard of that before.
Are you using the 2.3 or 2.2 on yours?
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Right now the official 2.2 update that just came out.
Oh is 2.2 the newest?
Officially, yes. Google has released 2.3 out but nothing official for us yet.
so what exactly is "rooting" then and what does it accomplish?
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so what exactly is "rooting" then and what does it accomplish?
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Rooting does what jail breaking did for the iphone. Allows you to do what you normally couldn't. Its also really easy to do, there are a few different things you can use but they all get the same thing done.
When you root you can install new rom's like a 2.3 rom if you wish. There developers who change them how they wish and then share them with the community, you can find them in Vibrant Android Development part of the forums. You can also download new kernels that will allow you to overclock your phone or even underclock if you wish.
In the android market there are some apps that also require you to root your phone to use them. One such app is Titanium Backup, it will back all the apps and stuff you have downloaded so if you install a new rom or lose your phone or something you can easily reinstall everything.
Basically rooting fully opens up your phone, allowing anything.
Any thoughts on an app called app planet? I've heard conflicting stories just trying to get some clarification. Thanks.
App planet is highly questionable on a moral level. It is just like the market app BUT only features hacked paid apps. If you are into "stolen" apps you will enjoy app planet but be wary as some apps may contain harmful code. What you see is not always what you get. Virus and data mining are always a risk.
I hope this answers your question. Proceed with caution!
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Any thoughts on an app called app planet? I've heard conflicting stories just trying to get some clarification. Thanks.
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Nevermind....
That is helpful... This is my first Android, just trying to learn as much as I can. And... Not destroying anything in the process.
My feelings... if someone can't support a developer and pay pocket change for their app that they are going to use, it's pathetic. If people feel $1-$5 is too much, maybe they shouldn't be spending money each month on a cell phone bill...
You're absolutely right... This was a conversation I had with someone last night who wanted to show off his rooted d2. I told him I was using a rooted TB and he tried to one up with this app. I felt it was a little odd to have all apps available for free and he doesn't read this site. Now I can relay the message.
The Amazon app store on the other hand offers a free app every day
i totally understand that stealing apps from applanet is wrong but i think there are still several good uses. i have used it a couple times to download apps that were no longer available in the market like rom gripper and also blocked apps like wireless tether. i also have used it to try out a paid app for more than 15 mins allowed by the official market. if i liked it, i went on the regular market and bought it! it DOESNT HAVE to be used for piracy only....
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My feelings... if someone can't support a developer and pay pocket change for their app that they are going to use, it's pathetic. If people feel $1-$5 is too much, maybe they shouldn't be spending money each month on a cell phone bill...
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I agree with you 100%, but anyway if the OP would have read the forum guidelines he would know this is not even allowed to be discussed here, so im sure this thread will be closed very soon!
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i totally understand that stealing apps from applanet is wrong but i think there are still several good uses. i have used it a couple times to download apps that were no longer available in the market like rom gripper and also blocked apps like wireless tether. i also have used it to try out a paid app for more than 15 mins allowed by the official market. if i liked it, i went on the regular market and bought it! it DOESNT HAVE to be used for piracy only....
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Stop trying to cover crap in gold... its illegal, end of story.
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i also have used it to try out a paid app for more than 15 mins allowed by the official market.
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When did it change from 24 hours to 15 minutes? I noticed this the other day and think its stupid, 15 minutes isn't long enough to test some apps.
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When did it change from 24 hours to 15 minutes? I noticed this the other day and think its stupid, 15 minutes isn't long enough to test some apps.
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This was to help developers, I will agree, 15 minutes is a bit short. But it is needed because of the amount of people that would buy a paid app, use it for that day, then "return" it. That and i'm sure people were downloading the paid app, ripping the apk, then "returning" the app, but still having the full paid version.
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This was to help developers, I will agree, 15 minutes is a bit short. But it is needed because of the amount of people that would buy a paid app, use it for that day, then "return" it. That and i'm sure people were downloading the paid app, ripping the apk, then "returning" the app, but still having the full paid version.
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The funny thing is that 15 minutes is enough time to rip the apk but not enough time to even check out an app to see if I like it or not. I support the devs but this is going to hurt devs I think. I no longer try any paid app without finding it on the web instead of the market.
No discussion of Warez.
Well I bought the last touchpad in my area (after ordering from BB online and getting a backordered email) and it is the demo model which will not let me set up a webos account or anything. I read over in the pre forums about it and posted there as well but was hoping maybe someone here might know a way around this?
I am calling HP tomorrow because I read that the serial numbers are locked to a demo unit in case of theft and they can remove the lock so you can use it normally (crossing fingers) but I really do not know till they open tomorrow. I called the WebOS number included in the box and they said to exchange it for another one (I laughed) and then they said to just return it. I really want to have one of these things to play with so any help is really appreciated.
Waiting till the touchandroid thing comes out might not help since I have to return it within 14 days I believe for them to give me my money back. I would have to have a perfectly working tablet to keep it rather than spending $150 on a demo unit that wont work.
Hoping for help
Mike
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Well I bought the last touchpad in my area (after ordering from BB online and getting a backordered email) and it is the demo model which will not let me set up a webos account or anything. I read over in the pre forums about it and posted there as well but was hoping maybe someone here might know a way around this?
I am calling HP tomorrow because I read that the serial numbers are locked to a demo unit in case of theft and they can remove the lock so you can use it normally (crossing fingers) but I really do not know till they open tomorrow. I called the WebOS number included in the box and they said to exchange it for another one (I laughed) and then they said to just return it. I really want to have one of these things to play with so any help is really appreciated.
Waiting till the touchandroid thing comes out might not help since I have to return it within 14 days I believe for them to give me my money back. I would have to have a perfectly working tablet to keep it rather than spending $150 on a demo unit that wont work.
Hoping for help
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Or, buy one from here (16GB for $99 with $5 shipping) and when you get a tracking number, return the one you have for a refund.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056UOUC8
Thanx for the link but on my end they are all showing as $415.53 and up - even on the right hand side of the page where amazon keeps other sellers. Lowest priced one says $234.98.
I am still hoping HP will fix this.
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Thanx for the link but on my end they are all showing as $415.53 and up - even on the right hand side of the page where amazon keeps other sellers. Lowest priced one says $234.98.
I am still hoping HP will fix this.
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Yeah, sorry man. the price was $100, but that company appears to have sold out. The name has changed which is weird that Amazon would have the same link for a different company.
Check here:
HP TouchPad Demo Unit Solution - Bypass Activation
I put together some instructions that where complied from a few sites; has worked for quite a few others.
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Check here:
HP TouchPad Demo Unit Solution - Bypass Activation
I put together some instructions that where complied from a few sites; has worked for quite a few others.
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Very nice! Now if we could get to register webos accounts, we wouldnt need HP anymore
I may do this later today after seeing if HP will fix the demo units or not. Still might keep it, I don't know yet.
The activation bypass works to an extent. You can get past the webos login, and enable developer privs to add homebrewed apps thru preware, but it seems very unlikely that you can sideload the apps only available through the login app store. At least you can web browse and watch movies and such on it. If anyone knows how to get non homebrewed apps on it, i would like to know. For now, i think its worth the value, even for the demo unit, to wait for android port.
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Just spoke with someone at the 1-866-477-3824 number and she told me I am basically out of luck. She is transferring me to tech support now to see if they know of a way to do it but it is looking like HP is gonna be pricks and not release the serials. She told me the serial numbers for demo units are set to not allow the webos account creation and access so if they wanted to, they could release them it seems.
Ok tech support just hung up on me - gotta love it.
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OK well I was doing some thinking and can think of 2 possible ways to fix the app problem. 1 is impostah and changing everything we can to clone a non demo touchpad. This will hopefully fool them into allowing us to create or log into an account. If this doesn't work my second idea is a better app repository to put apps onto it. Since HP is discontinuing it's work on the webOS we will likely have a need for the repository eventually.
I know there is the homebrew repository but one that also has apps from the official store would be awesome. An all in one app store that is completely free and open. Would be a first to some degree on the mobile platform. I would set this up but I can't access the app store so wouldn't be able to contact Devs and such about putting their apps onto it.
This is basically PreWare. Except it wouldn't fly because of all the warez. PreWare is fine for now. Put your effort into that since it is already going strong.
preware
Preware just doesn't have very many (useful) apps available.
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Very nice! Now if we could get to register webos accounts, we wouldnt need HP anymore
I may do this later today after seeing if HP will fix the demo units or not. Still might keep it, I don't know yet.
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I have found a way to Create a WEBOS account after going into Developer mode. Now i am using WEBOSDoctor to reinstall WebOS 3.0.2 and will try logining in with the account I Just creadted. I can log into the WEBOS site online through HP's website which it didnt allow me to do earlier. Will keep everyone posted!
IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I took everyone's work so far and went a step further so I am taking as much credit as everyone else who managed to crack this! I first flashed it using WEBOSDoctor to 3.0.2. Then i used the devicetool.jar to put it into Developer mode. Then I used Preware to install Impostah. I then used Impostah to create a WEBOS account. Reflashed it to 3.0.2 using WEBOSDoctor and logged in with the WEBOS account I had just created! Then once up I launched the HP APP STORE and it came up with an error. I closed it out waited a few more minutes and the loaded it again and quickly tapped on the Categories tab at the bottom. Clicked on Games and Installed Angry Birds. WE HAVE ALL CRACKED THIS AND NO LONGER NEED TO FIGHT WITH HP OR RETURN OUR UNITS TO THE STORES! GREAT JOB EVERYONE INVOLVED!
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IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I took everyone's work so far and went a step further so I am taking as much credit as everyone else who managed to crack this! I first flashed it using WEBOSDoctor to 3.0.2. Then i used the devicetool.jar to put it into Developer mode. Then I used Preware to install Impostah. I then used Impostah to create a WEBOS account. Reflashed it to 3.0.2 using WEBOSDoctor and logged in with the WEBOS account I had just created! Then once up I launched the HP APP STORE and it came up with an error. I closed it out waited a few more minutes and the loaded it again and quickly tapped on the Categories tab at the bottom. Clicked on Games and Installed Angry Birds. WE HAVE ALL CRACKED THIS AND NO LONGER NEED TO FIGHT WITH HP OR RETURN OUR UNITS TO THE STORES! GREAT JOB EVERYONE INVOLVED!
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Confirmed this worked!!!, but in a different manner. I didn't use Impostah to accomplish the fix.
1) Went to https://developer.palm.com/
2) Signed up for Developers Account (disregard paypal memo)
3) Fill out info (first name, last name, email), click continue.
4) Check your e-mail, and validate your WEBOS developers account.
5) From registration page, fill out e-mail address, create a pw, and choose/create a security question; Continue.
6) Fill out Contact Information; Continue.
7) Once you reach Tax Info page, just close your page (you might be able to earlier than this, but I went that far and it worked).
Your account is "kinda" created.
8) Turn on HP Touchpad (you might have to follow Mattatha's instructions above), and get to WEBOS login screen. Choose Create Profile, and type in the same Name, E-mail, password, security question as you created earlier.
Note* I tried clicking Sign In on my HP Touchpad after doing steps 1-7, but it still didn't seem to work, but step #8 got me in, and able to use the app store.
Verify your login my going to Device Info.
Enjoy your HP Touchpad Demo with full capabilities!
Called the store i got it from and they told me if I try this they will not take it back. They said if HP won't help, I can get a refund unless I try to hack around the demo stuff.
If I try this and it does not work for me, is there a way to put the demo software back on and remove everything else?
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Called the store i got it from and they told me if I try this they will not take it back. They said if HP won't help, I can get a refund unless I try to hack around the demo stuff.
If I try this and it does not work for me, is there a way to put the demo software back on and remove everything else?
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Someone else had asked for it as well and on one of the forums there was a link to it. But trust us this will work!
I had created a developer account as well but it didnt let me log in with it.... Nice job though!
Also Knightrid what store did you buy it from cause that is BS!!!
You can now create a WebOS account
you can now create a WebOs Account ...if you bought a demo unit
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I had created a developer account as well but it didnt let me log in with it.... Nice job though!
Also Knightrid what store did you buy it from cause that is BS!!!
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RadioShark - they said if it is not in the same condition they do not have to take it as a return.
I may give this a shot, just wish I knew if the one I ordered from BB was gonna ship (won't let me cancel anymore but still says "Order Status: 1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in null - null days."), if so, I would return this in a heartbeat.
If I do try it then the wife would have to let me keep both of them if the BB one ships too LOL If she doesn't kill me, then she would get to keep both
Trying to figure out how to do the preware and impostah thing right now - if I figure it out, I think I will try that way to see how it goes. I am afraid the developer accounts may get cancelled after a certain period of time without having the paypal and tax info in them (I don't know if this will happen, I am just thinking it may).
You guys/gals/people/aliens are awesome for figuring this stuff out! Came here for my Droid Eris and have Cyanogenmod on it now Awesome site!
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RadioShark - they said if it is not in the same condition they do not have to take it as a return.
I may give this a shot, just wish I knew if the one I ordered from BB was gonna ship (won't let me cancel anymore but still says "Order Status: 1 item(s) - Order in process of being fulfilled; Usually ships in null - null days."), if so, I would return this in a heartbeat.
If I do try it then the wife would have to let me keep both of them if the BB one ships too LOL If she doesn't kill me, then she would get to keep both
Trying to figure out how to do the preware and impostah thing right now - if I figure it out, I think I will try that way to see how it goes. I am afraid the developer accounts may get cancelled after a certain period of time without having the paypal and tax info in them (I don't know if this will happen, I am just thinking it may).
You guys/gals/people/aliens are awesome for figuring this stuff out! Came here for my Droid Eris and have Cyanogenmod on it now Awesome site!
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Tell them at Radio Shack they are full of ****! I am a store manager for them and there is a specific memo that went out company wide yesterday to allow returns of ALL demo's sold. It said NOTHING about condition so they CAN NOT tell you no.
I figured I would come here for some sort of guidance about Tapatalk. I'm sure some of you remember way back when Tapatalk was a paid app. I bought it. And now there is a Pro version. Problem is, the app that I paid for is now free. I emailed customer support about it almost 2 weeks ago and still haven't received word back. Anybody else feel this pain or has anybody even been able to reach them about being compensated for it? Guess for now I have to resort to Aptoide to get what I want.
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I might be missing something, but I don't understand the issue.
The app was good enough for you to pay for it when you paid for it, and no features have been removed. The only thing you're upset about is that now other people can get it free? It doesn't sound like you lost anything here. Why would they refund you when you had the app and used it far longer than anyone who is just using the free version now?
The license is lifetime so he has a right to want any refund.
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The license is lifetime so he has a right to want any refund.
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I don't understand.
The license says you can get a refund for this app any time you want, even months after purchasing it?
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I don't understand.
The license says you can get a refund for this app any time you want, even months after purchasing it?
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i think he's upset that it's free now and he paid for services that r now i guess:good:
The issue is that he paid for a fully working product, now that product has been removed from the play store and replaced by a gimped version of another product that he possibly paid for as well. I myself find this extremely wrong from the company to do this. Instead they should have left the two versions as they were and add a new free gimped one, but they wanted the good ratings from the paid one for the free one... Such bad practice
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The issue is that he paid for a fully working product, now that product has been removed from the play store and replaced by a gimped version of another product that he possibly paid for as well. I myself find this extremely wrong from the company to do this. Instead they should have left the two versions as they were and add a new free gimped one, but they wanted the good ratings from the paid one for the free one... Such bad practice
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They didn't remove anything.
They made the pro version free and the HD with tablet enhancements paid.
What features did they remove?
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orangekid said:
They didn't remove anything.
They made the pro version free and the HD with tablet enhancements paid.
What features did they remove?
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that shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
The original 2 version has been removed from the play store (can now only be accessed with some link from them) and replaced by a gimped version of the "tapatalk pro" application. I wont go into detail as to what is all gimped, as you can look t hat up yourself, but just so you wont post something like "whats removed again", for instance posting picturesin the "free" version goes only with watermark...
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that shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
The original 2 version has been removed from the play store (can now only be accessed with some link from them) and replaced by a gimped version of the "tapatalk pro" application. I wont go into detail as to what is all gimped, as you can look t hat up yourself, but just so you wont post something like "whats removed again", for instance posting picturesin the "free" version goes only with watermark...
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But the version you paid for (that you installed initially) still posts pictures without a watermark, even though it is not in the Play Store anymore, no?
If not, then I see your point.
orangekid said:
But the version you paid for (that you installed initially) still posts pictures without a watermark, even though it is not in the Play Store anymore, no?
If not, then I see your point.
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Just go to their forums and read all the threads about the mess they did themselves because they were greedy.
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Just go to their forums and read all the threads about the mess they did themselves because they were greedy.
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Looks like I'll have to do that to get the full story.
I'm a little miffed too because I paid for it, but now I have to use their free version with ads, and if I want the ad free version I have to pay again? Thats messed up to me. Make your paid version free and add back the ads, then make a "new" version that you now have to pay for? So basically I can stick with the old version (which I am), but now I don't get any updates or new features. Yes they are greedy, there have been 1 or 2 app devs that ive encountered that have made changes where previous buyers would "lose out" in some way, but they came up with some kind of way for previous buyers to redeem the new or corrected version. These guys did not....I mean didn't they already have a free version? I know they at least allowed individual forums to create their own version they could distribute freely.
+1 I've paid for 2 versions of the app already, they just taking advantage now. I won't be paying for anymore versions. Came here thinking many more would be as annoyed but not so. Tapatalks own forum has some interesting info but little care from the devs. Poor form.
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+1 I've paid for 2 versions of the app already, they just taking advantage now. I won't be paying for anymore versions. Came here thinking many more would be as annoyed but not so. Tapatalks own forum has some interesting info but little care from the devs. Poor form.
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Yep, they even go so far as to locking every thread that touches this problem... Worst company ever.
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Yep, they even go so far as to locking every thread that touches this problem... Worst company ever.
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Yes, they won't even talk about it. Second time this year I've had a developer screw me over changes to a paid app. Then they complain about people not buying it.
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I don't mind buying better apps etc but all they ever do is rebrand the same app with a feature or 2 and then ask for more money. Almost like we're paying to beta test. The arguments about buying a new copy of windows are stupid. But if people must, XP -> Vista -> 7 were significant enough changes to warrant paying for a new product IMO.
I was fooled twice, my fault but won't happen a 3rd time. If they do happen to release something amazing, I'll obtain it from a 3rd party source unfortunately.
Well I don't think you will receive a refund. This isn't even logical enought to debate.
I remain of the view that the old version was much better with the themes, and everything else
I had 2 kindles lost in shipping. Called Amazon and they are sending 2 replacements. The originals arrived and I have the new ones. I called Amazon about returning the old ones and they said don't worry about it because they will be disabled anyway. My question is can the old ones be rooted so as to prevent the remote disable or is this connected to the serial number somehow to prevent anyway of saving these?
If you keep the two originals off and off of wifi until a bootloader exploit is found, then yes, you will be able to keep them for as long as you want.
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Nice, thanks
gbrewha said:
I had 2 kindles lost in shipping. Called Amazon and they are sending 2 replacements. The originals arrived and I have the new ones. I called Amazon about returning the old ones and they said don't worry about it because they will be disabled anyway. My question is can the old ones be rooted so as to prevent the remote disable or is this connected to the serial number somehow to prevent anyway of saving these?
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Do the world a favor and lure a great dev over to the kindle side with a donation . I would assume they would be fine as long as they never went online before a custom Rom is put on them.
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Do the world a favor and lure a great dev over to the kindle side with a donation . I would assume they would be fine as long as they never went online before a custom Rom is put on them.
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That is what I was thinking!
Who would be the best dev to donate this kindle to as far as cracking the bootloader and has the time to commit to it?
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Who would be thst dev to donate this kindle to as far as cracking the bootloader and has the time to commit to it?
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Well if your serious ask @Hashcode his opinion. He probably has some idea of the best kindle devs. Click the link and email him or one of the other devs currently working on this device. Or you could put up a post in general section asking this very question, I'm sure there will be some names dropped.
I'd be willing to donate to the cause to get some dev work on the HDX...specifically to help the guys working on getting the play store functional.
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I'd be willing to donate to the cause to get some dev work on the HDX...specifically to help the guys working on getting the play store functional.
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Hashcode has a 7", which he picked up for his daughter.
If you want, I can talk to a few of the guys I know, to see if they have the time. Stericson (Kindle Free & Busybox Pro) would be great, however, I would say to wait. Don't give it to a good dev, what we really need right now is a low level guy that has connections & a good understanding of Qualcomm's msm9615. There are a lot of low level things hanging up any other work right now, even custom roms, or true recovery. A bootloader guy with msm knowledge would be even better, but there really are only a couple that have been reversing BL & msm hardware for any real lengthy period of time.
I'll talk to a few of the old timers & see if I can come up with a name.
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Hashcode has a 7", which he picked up for his daughter.
If you want, I can talk to a few of the guys I know, to see if they have the time. Stericson (Kindle Free & Busybox Pro) would be great, however, I would say to wait. Don't give it to a good dev, what we really need right now is a low level guy that has connections & a good understanding of Qualcomm's msm9615. There are a lot of low level things hanging up any other work right now, even custom roms, or true recovery. A bootloader guy with msm knowledge would be even better, but there really are only a couple that have been reversing BL & msm hardware for any real lengthy period of time.
I'll talk to a few of the old timers & see if I can come up with a name.
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Cool, thank you. I know the hardware side of it but come up against a pretty hard wall when it comes to FW. Just never got interested enough to dive in. But if anyone needs a rework or replace an IC I can help.
Edit: I have 2x7" that I picked up for my kids, have to follow what hashcode is doing with kids specific. Can't futz with the kids stuff!
I could use one
I'll take one if you wouldn't mind I'm pretty new to much of this but I can't get better without something to test on and I don't have the money right now to buy one on my own. Plus, I would like to help any devs I can by testing their software and other ideas.
Give one to meteorrock
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