So I searched and didn't really see anything relevant to this. Sorry if I'm re-posting. I recently upgraded to a Samsung Galaxy S Showcase from CSpire from my old HTC Hero. What I was wondering is how close these phones are to the Fascinate. I flashed Cyanogenmod onto the phone and only after it has been working flawlessly I realized I flashed the Fascinate version instead of the Showcase version. Are there any problems with this. As of now I woudn't think so as it has been ~30 hours and is working awesome!
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So I searched and didn't really see anything relevant to this. Sorry if I'm re-posting. I recently upgraded to a Samsung Galaxy S Showcase from CSpire from my old HTC Hero. What I was wondering is how close these phones are to the Fascinate. I flashed Cyanogenmod onto the phone and only after it has been working flawlessly I realized I flashed the Fascinate version instead of the Showcase version. Are there any problems with this. As of now I woudn't think so as it has been ~30 hours and is working awesome!
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yes the showcase/fascinate/mesmerize are all very similar. The difference is the showcase/mes are gsm and the fascinate is cdma. Usually flashing anything fascinate related on the showcase will break data and vice versa... but if cm7 is working for you then dont mess with it lol. Fyi for future reference check out rootzwiki.com for showcase/mes support.
Well, I'm glad it worked then! Ha. I'm actually not a total noob, just didn't think about it and when I saw the phone that looked like mine I flashed it. Never really thought about the fact that there were so many Galaxy S types out there!
I have not flashed CM7 with there being so many people reporting it faulty. However, I have only been looking at the "stable" cm7 for showcase.
These are the reported issues from the Showcase release.
No Sms/Mms
No Data or voice/forced roaming
Faulty Wifi functionality
Have you noticed and of these issues?
If I can safely flash CM7 for fascinate on my Cspire Showcase, I would be ecstatic.
Thanks in advance
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yes the showcase/fascinate/mesmerize are all very similar. The difference is the showcase/mes are gsm and the fascinate is cdma. Usually flashing anything fascinate related on the showcase will break data and vice versa... but if cm7 is working for you then dont mess with it lol. Fyi for future reference check out rootzwiki.com for showcase/mes support.
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I'm pretty sure the Mezmerize and Showcase are CDMA as well not GSM. Cspire and US Cellular are CDMA systems.
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The Samsung Mesmerize, Showcase, and Fascinate are all CDMA technology phones.
I was able to flash the Verizon Fascinate CM7 to the CSpire Showcase successfully. The only concern is it shows Verizon network connection. This might cause major data charges for anyone without an unlimited plan.
Just be aware that CSpire's user agreement states, "If Customer's usage of the Services (including voice and data and regardless of Service plan) on other carrier's networks (roaming or off-network usage) exceeds Customer's off-network usage allowance, C Spire may at its option terminate Customer's Service or access Service, deny Customer's continued use of other carriers' coverage, change Customer's plan to one imposing usage charges for roaming usage, or change Customer's plan as necessary in the discretion of C Spire."
Hopefully the Cyanogen Mod team will repair the broken Showcase CM7 soon, so we do not have to worry about these issues.
On the positive side, everything seems to be functioning properly with the Fascinate CM7. Only complaint is the soft keys sometimes stay lit when the screen times out.
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The Samsung Mesmerize, Showcase, and Fascinate are all CDMA technology phones.
I was able to flash the Verizon Fascinate CM7 to the CSpire Showcase successfully. The only concern is it shows Verizon network connection. This might cause major data charges for anyone without an unlimited plan.
Just be aware that CSpire's user agreement states, "If Customer's usage of the Services (including voice and data and regardless of Service plan) on other carrier's networks (roaming or off-network usage) exceeds Customer's off-network usage allowance, C Spire may at its option terminate Customer's Service or access Service, deny Customer's continued use of other carriers' coverage, change Customer's plan to one imposing usage charges for roaming usage, or change Customer's plan as necessary in the discretion of C Spire."
Hopefully the Cyanogen Mod team will repair the broken Showcase CM7 soon, so we do not have to worry about these issues.
On the positive side, everything seems to be functioning properly with the Fascinate CM7. Only complaint is the soft keys sometimes stay lit when the screen times out.
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I don't think the phone saying Verizon Wireless actually means you are using Verizon's network. As long as your modem and PRL are the same you should still be using CSpire's towers. The first stock GB ROM we had was a Mezmerise/Showcase ported to the Fascinate. It always said "Digital Roaming" yet it still was using Verizon's network. If this isn't accurate someone please correct me.
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I don't think the phone saying Verizon Wireless actually means you are using Verizon's network. As long as your modem and PRL are the same you should still using CSpire's towers. The first stock GB from we had was a Mezmerise/Showcase ported to the Fascinate. It always said "Digital Roaming" yet it still was using Verizon's network. If this isn't accurate please correct me.
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You are probably right, my PRL and modem (S:i500.05 K.EI20) are the same as from the original C Spire rom. My concern comes from C Spire having a roaming agreement with Verizon, meaning the PRL and modem are allowed to use Verizon's network with no restrictions.
How did you determine that you were using Verizon and not roaming?
The only way I can think of to test this is to be in an area with no Verizon coverage. Given, I may be wrong and you might have another solution.
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You are probably right, my PRL and modem (S:i500.05 K.EI20) are the same as from the original C Spire rom. My concern comes from C Spire having a roaming agreement with Verizon, meaning the PRL and modem are allowed to use Verizon's network with no restrictions.
How did you determine that you were using Verizon and not roaming?
The only way I can think of to test this is to be in an area with no Verizon coverage. Given, I may be wrong and you might have another solution.
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Well I am a VZ user and they have a roaming agreement with Nex-Tech Wireless where I live. The way I tell that I'm on a Nex-Tech tower is my phone says "Extended Network" when it switches to one. I don't know if you're will say it or not but you can find out like you said by going to an area where you only get VZ coverage and no CSpire coverage and see what it says.
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Well I am a VZ user and they have a roaming agreement with Nex-Tech Wireless where I live. The way I tell that I'm on a Nex-Tech tower is my phone says "Extended Network" when it switches to one. I don't know if you're will say it or not but you can find out like you said by going to an area where you only get VZ coverage and no CSpire coverage and see what it says.
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Thanks for the input. Luckily, I work in the Wireless industry at cell sites all over the state, so testing this won't be an issue.
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I'm pretty sure the Mezmerize and Showcase are CDMA as well not GSM. Cspire and US Cellular are CDMA systems.
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yes you are correct...my mistake!
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will the htc thunderbolt be fully flashable to cricket yes or no
I'm sure there is a switch under the battery Criket<>Verizon ... I never got why you would pay 700 for a phone just to save 40 a month and not have 4g and have sub par service... but i'm sure someone will develop a criket rom like the did with the incredible but nothing special
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I'm sure there is a switch under the battery Criket<>Verizon ... I never got why you would pay 700 for a phone just to save 40 a month and not have 4g and have sub par service... but i'm sure someone will develop a criket rom like the did with the incredible but nothing special
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Because after 10 months that 40 turns into 400 and we just paid for the subsidy that ppl are paying for every month for 24 months(40 * 24 = $960) In comparison, after 24 months you get paid $260 for using it on a different network. Sub par service is a matter of opinion...no need to be rude about it, some ppl prefer a frugal alternative.
I guess the thought is that you could buy a cheaper device, and get just as good performance out of it because on Cricket you will never, ever, see any of the 4G speeds that we see.
This thing gets downloads that are consistently as fast as my Home Comcast (15mbps). I have seen some speeds that are double 30+mbps.
I guess what the other poster is thinking is that you could buy a droid 2 or a droid X and basically get the same results. Outside of the 4G LTE speeds, this device is nothing more than a MT4G or Desire HD (same internals). You wouldn't have to spend the extra money for a 4G phone that you will never utilize.
I thought that cricket was signing up for Lightsquared's LTE service? Which I would assume would be the same 700 Mhz our devices run on? I could be wrong, but if cricket did this it seems like it wouldn't be a terrible deal and as op said, he would still save money and actually be able to utilize the service. I doubt they would have the coverage we will, but don't denigrate the dude. He did nothing wrong asked a relevant question. Sorry, this was more directed at two_cents.
I have no idea what frequency Cricket would use, but keep in mind that metroPCS has 4G LTE as well and it is not at all compatible with Verizon 4G LTE. So it may be that the carriers try to distinguish themselves in the near future (especially from value based carriers) based on their phones not being compatible with other networks.
This would have the effect of making you go with one of the Big 3(?) carriers if you wanted a quality smartphone, or pick an inferior or entry level device and go with a prepaid carrier.
Yeah, I know metro's is different, but I was thinking that, which I could be remembering wrong, that LS's LTE service was going to be the same 700mhz. Like I said, I could be wrong. This is just what I vaguely remember.
When cricket starts using sim cards to register devices
Yes that's right the sim card is like those from other networks, doubt it will work
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Chips in Crickets?
Been an At&t user since forever. Service is good enough in Savannah and the job pays for it so I haven't had an argument to switch. So, SIM cards in phones have always been the norm. Could switch out my Nokia, Palm, iPhone whenever.
So forgive my ignorance when I ask what the significance of sims appearing in Cricket phones to being able to use the Thunderbolt? I currently use a Huawei on Cricket to play with and it doesn't have a sim. I've seen a Droid X also on Cricket and I don't know whether it has a sim or not.
Personally I wouldnt use a DX or TB on Cricket but for $55 a month (unlimited everything) it's an attractive offer.
Btw, the Huawei is Z4 rooted and has 2.2.1, which ruins the Wifi. But Wifi tethering works great. About 1mb u/d, but worthwhile. My iP4 gets 3+mb down and 1+mb up on 3G even with MyWi. When 4G LTE comes here with big red then I'll probably switch. I looking forward to a 4.3 screen and 2.3GB
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I thought that cricket was signing up for Lightsquared's LTE service? Which I would assume would be the same 700 Mhz our devices run on? I could be wrong, but if cricket did this it seems like it wouldn't be a terrible deal and as op said, he would still save money and actually be able to utilize the service. I doubt they would have the coverage we will, but don't denigrate the dude. He did nothing wrong asked a relevant question. Sorry, this was more directed at two_cents.
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I think you are mixing up Cricket for Metro PCS.
also the 700Mhz band is verizons if I am not mistaken, so the band will be different for Lightsquared's LTE unless them roam on verizons network.
No, I know metro has their own LTE service, that is not on the same bandwidth ours. Reading further into the lightsquared's frequency range they are on three bands. 1.4 1.6 and 2.0. So, yes I was wrong about it about the TB working on crickets network if they partnered with LS, but I wasn't talking about MPCS. I thought that I had saw where LS was running on the 700 mhz band with VZW. Not sure where I pulled that one out of thin air from, because apparently I was way off. Here's where I got my new info.http://www.dailywireless.org/2010/07/20/lightsquared-announces-lte-network/
MPCS runs on the 1700 mhz band.
ok, I may have to scrap this whole post. We will just chalk it up to the fact I don't know WTF I'm talking about.
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ok, I may have to scrap this whole post. We will just chalk it up to the fact I don't know WTF I'm talking about.
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haha it happens brah, no biggie.
Since no one has yet answer the original question... I'm a professional cell phone tech normally all Verizon phones can be flashed to cricket HOWEVER Verizon has decided to use identification cards similar to Sim cards for their service starting with the thunderbolt and all future Verizon 4g phones. I have yet to attempt to flash a thunderbolt I will try Monday however I'm fairly confident without the id card it will not work on cricket. The card is what stores registration info for the network now VERY similar to a Sim. I'm doubting a flash will work but I will repost tomorrow with my results.
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Since no one has yet answer the original question... I'm a professional cell phone tech normally all Verizon phones can be flashed to cricket HOWEVER Verizon has decided to use identification cards similar to Sim cards for their service starting with the thunderbolt and all future Verizon 4g phones. I have yet to attempt to flash a thunderbolt I will try Monday however I'm fairly confident without the id card it will not work on cricket. The card is what stores registration info for the network now VERY similar to a Sim. I'm doubting a flash will work but I will repost tomorrow with my results.
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Your correct there is no way to load a .prl on the phone without a sim unless theres another way. For the rest of the off topic posts you pay for what you get
Yeah, the SIM card makes this impossible at the moment.
possibly
Its possible because cricket will be getting 4G LTE sometime at the end of this year or early next. But it also depends if it works the same as Verizon's.
The Thunderbolt has officially been flashed to cricket with Talk and Text and hopefully data to come. I flashed it yesterday and i can make and recieve calls and texts atm so wish me luck to get data working
Crickets 4g is gonna be very limited they said they're basically making hotspot style 4g similar to att having wifi at starbucks
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Can u tell me how to connect it to qpst and enable the writing??? i have tried using qpst/cdmaws hell i even tried manual programming... but to no avail. if someone could just let me know whats up with this to get it connected... not looking to pay for the answer just need someone to help with this, everything else i can figure on my own... lol just need to write the prl first... thx...
Only if crickets 4G network is LTE
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I am currently on a legacy Alltel smartphone plan. I wanted to see if somebody knew if I would be able to buy a thunderbolt and activate it on the alltel plan (I'm well aware that I would not have 4G, but that doesn't bother me since where I live will probably not get 4G until 2013...). I didn't know if a thunderbolt requires a 4G plan or if you can just activate it on a 3G plan. I currently have a Samsung Fascinate so I know I can activate VZW phones on the plan. Thank you in advance for the information.
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I am currently on a legacy Alltel smartphone plan. I wanted to see if somebody knew if I would be able to buy a thunderbolt and activate it on the alltel plan (I'm well aware that I would not have 4G, but that doesn't bother me since where I live will probably not get 4G until 2013...). I didn't know if a thunderbolt requires a 4G plan or if you can just activate it on a 3G plan. I currently have a Samsung Fascinate so I know I can activate VZW phones on the plan. Thank you in advance for the information.
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i worked at vzw a long time ago (5yrs) so things might have changed. The 4g is a feature that is tied to the 4g phones. it is an option that will have to be added. It may or may not allow you to just add the feature to your current plan. what i honestly think will happen is it will force you to change plans.
I was imported from Alltel as well and there were no alterations or price changes to my plan as far as I know. They don't charge more for 4G service. And they won't give you a break because you aren't in an area that has it.
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I was imported from Alltel as well and there were no alterations or price changes to my plan as far as I know. They don't charge more for 4G service. And they won't give you a break because you aren't in an area that has it.
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then its just allowed to be added as a "feature" with no price adjustment to it.
I appreciate the responses, but they don't really address my core question. I just want to know if it is even possible to ACTIVATE a 4G phone on a legacy alltel plan? I really don't care about adding 4G.
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I appreciate the responses, but they don't really address my core question. I just want to know if it is even possible to ACTIVATE a 4G phone on a legacy alltel plan? I really don't care about adding 4G.
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Since we have members that have Thunderbolts in 3G only areas, I would say yes. You just wouldn't have 4G. And the way it is now, 4G is the same price as 3G so you wouldn't pay more, your plan would just say "4G Data" or something but you would only receive 3G on the phone.
I have a legacy Alltel plan too, I think its the "smart choice 500" and I was able to activate my Thunderbolt with that plan. I don't have 4g where I am, but I was told by the salesperson that it would still get 4g if I was in a 4g area. One of these days I'll get somewhere I can try it! But yes it is possible to activate a Thunderbolt on an Alltel plan.
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Since we have members that have Thunderbolts in 3G only areas, I would say yes. You just wouldn't have 4G. And the way it is now, 4G is the same price as 3G so you wouldn't pay more, your plan would just say "4G Data" or something but you would only receive 3G on the phone.
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Can anyone verify this with a method or point to the right direction? I have yet to find anyplace that lists how to, only places that say it's possible.
Im on An alltel plan still, i got the tbolt an 4g
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I have a legacy Alltel plan, always have. And I live in an LTE market. Everything works fine. If your plan doesn't have data, you may have to add it. I refuse to change plans because I have unlimited data in mine and nothing else compares, I would have to pay more. When I first bought my Thunderbolt this was not a 4G market. Price for plan hasn't changed. They turned on the 4G and bingo, now I have it.
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I have a legacy Alltel plan, always have. And I live in an LTE market. Everything works fine. If your plan doesn't have data, you may have to add it. I refuse to change plans because I have unlimited data in mine and nothing else compares, I would have to pay more. When I first bought my Thunderbolt this was not a 4G market. Price for plan hasn't changed. They turned on the 4G and bingo, now I have it.
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did you just call Alltel and switch out your phone with the Tbolt? Or did you have to have the phone unlocked since it has a SIM?
When Verizon bought Alltel everything rolled over, plan and all. Then when my upgrade came last year I purchased the Thunderbolt.
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hmm. Doesn't seem to help me. Verizon hasn't engulfed the few Alltel stores here yet, so I'm still with an Alltel plan and provider.
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Too clarify, I am still with Alltel service. I had the phone programmed once, but only the basic functions (Call and text) worked, but not the 3G. I don't care if I get the 4G or not as long as I can get 3G to work. Do I need to unlock the SIM card or anything in order to get the Tbolt up and running properly on my Alltel Smart Phone plan?
Is it possible to flash to Boost Mobile?
I don't know since I hear the Thunderbolt now uses a Sim card and Imei not meid. Or esn.
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Is it possible to flash to Boost Mobile?
I don't know since I hear the Thunderbolt now uses a Sim card and Imei not meid. Or esn.
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If it's a cdma carrier. Otherwise no.
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Is it possible to flash to Boost Mobile?
I don't know since I hear the Thunderbolt now uses a Sim card and Imei not meid. Or esn.
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I believe it's impossible. At best, all you'll be able to do is voice and nothing more. No data at all, whether 3G or 4G. Network authentication is done differently on an LTE device. They will ask you for an ESN number, which you will not be able to find anywhere on the device.
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I believe it's impossible. At best, all you'll be able to do is voice and nothing more. No data at all, whether 3G or 4G. Network authentication is done differently on an LTE device. They will ask you for an ESN number, which you will not be able to find anywhere on the device.
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Eh, not entirely true. I checked out the carrier and it's sprint's cdma network so he should get voice and 3g data fine. Obviously won't be getting anything above 3g speeds though.
speeds though
To the OP if you are really motivated to do it, I would read this as it shows how others have done it for the thunderbolt.
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Eh, not entirely true. I checked out the carrier and it's sprint's cdma network so he should get voice and 3g data fine. Obviously won't be getting anything above 3g speeds though.
speeds though
To the OP if you are really motivated to do it, I would read this as it shows how others have done it for the thunderbolt.
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Sprint doesn't use a compatible data network authentication scheme as Verizon, so no, he will have no data service unless he can find a ROM for the Tbolt specifically ported from a Sprint device. It's well known that Sprint devices such as the EVO line don't work on Verizon, and that Verizon devices such as the dInc and dInc2 will not work on Sprint. I've worked with both.
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Sprint doesn't use a compatible data network authentication scheme as Verizon, so no, he will have no data service unless he can find a ROM for the Tbolt specifically ported from a Sprint device.
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if you say so...
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if you say so...
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It's easy enough to look up. Search the dInc forums. I know there's several threads there addressing this issue. I'd be surprised if the EVO 4G forum didn't have a few too, and I know there's at least 1 or 2 in the Tbolt forum that address this issue as well; a fact I considered pointing out to the OP. Furthermore, Tbolts don't have ESN numbers. They interface with both the 3G and 4G protocols differently than standard CDMA devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138411
This kinda explains what I'm saying. If you can't do it with a straight CDMA device without a world-class hassle, it's functionally impossible with a Tbolt.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138411
This kinda explains what I'm saying. If you can't do it with a straight CDMA device without a world-class hassle, it's functionally impossible with a Tbolt.
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Yeah, perhaps not with sprint's network (after reading), but certain networks seem to work like Metro's. If the OP has to ask though, he probably doesn't have the will/determination to persist on doing whatever it takes though. He'd be better off getting something like a nexus s for sprint and use it on boost or an evo of some sort.
Yeah I was just confused weather I will be able to read the esn and MEID locations. Right now I have Dinc with Boost mobile, mms, data, sms and voice all working.
But now I want the Thunderbolt and because it uses a Sim card I wasn't entirely sure.
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OK this is a stupid question but I would like clarification from some of you in this forum. I am currently running CNA JB on my photon. Over the last few weeks I have used over 600KB of roaming data. When I got my bill it did not show this data because roaming on Verizon is 1X speed and Sprint tracks 3G on the bill. My question is will Sprint realize I am using all the roaming data and try and boot me or will it fly under the radar? Additionally I do not see a section for roaming minutes or texts. Are they tracking this as well?
I know many of you object to roaming PRL's however I am currently away from home for the military and do not have Sprint service here. It will get changed back when I get home in a few months, I just want to make sure I do not get booted before then. Thanks
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I'm curious about this too. I've always kept data roaming off because I didn't know if I'd get charged.
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I'm curious about this too. I've always kept data roaming off because I didn't know if I'd get charged.
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I can tell you for a fact that you will not get charged. I just pulled up my bills for the last 6 months and I have used roaming data every month. The concern with sprint is that they will not charge you, but if they think you are using to much they will cancel you so you can go to another carrier that has better service in your area. This saves them money because they pay Verizon for the data you use in roaming.
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I wish I knew this before I took a trip out to Wyoming but the answers are true, roaming isn't a problem. I called Sprint and asked them and they said it wasn't a problem with their Nationwide plans (i'm sure you have one). I turned on roaming for calls and data then turned off the call and data guards.
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I wish I knew this before I took a trip out to Wyoming but the answers are true, roaming isn't a problem. I called Sprint and asked them and they said it wasn't a problem with their Nationwide plans (i'm sure you have one). I turned on roaming for calls and data then turned off the call and data guards.
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Per sprint policy : Continus Roaming over a 90 Day period will constitute sprint into sending you a letter concearning your constant use off the network, they will give you a chance to return using the service or be canceled if continued. This only applies to users that live and use their phones off network (roaming) for a continus period of time ( living and working in a area that never had sprint coverage, bottom half of the contract explains this and states if you dont use their service or excessively use a roaming service it constitutes a breach in contact and can further cost a ETF ( early termination fee).. If you have DSL and are in a roaming area, call sprint and ask for a AIRRAVE - free femcell booster for sprint customers only that are in poor coverage or out of the service area ( this turns your dsl into a sprint signal and supports calls and net)
I have always roamed xD I use about as much roaming or sprint as I wish just whichever gets better service or faster Internet (usually sprint since its 3g and I needa change out my Prl to get my 3g work in on roaming I think) any good references to how to change your prl easily?
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Rill roaming is the only option I am aware of.. ie: most ROMs include the ril that makes your home only do roaming and choosing automatic will force you onto a roaming network only.. I don't believe we can access another networks 3g because its hidden from a non subscriber.. the question is where we could be if the sim card for international was able to be motofied into a roaming on gsm networks when service is unavalible while still CDMA and on home only.. never happening tho
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actually it is possible to roam and get 3g on sprint i used to do it all the time. look up a thread that has a pagplus prl for a sprint phone and that will yield the results that your looking for
Not sure .. I do believe any Prl that is roaming related to data will break regular data 3g until back on your carriers data Prl .. correct me if I'm wrong but the ril is closest to running a off network data 3g or equivalent without flashing a different prl each time unless you can flash over automatic and have force roam 3g..
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I think if you have the sprint business prl, like 111111 or something, you can get 3g while roaming. I believe joker has said that is what he uses
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please dont knock it till you have actually tried it thank you. im saying this as my personal experience
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please dont knock it till you have actually tried it thank you. im saying this as my personal experience
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I wasn't knocking ya, bro. I was just clarifying the info :beer:
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actually it is possible to roam and get 3g on sprint i used to do it all the time. look up a thread that has a pagplus prl for a sprint phone and that will yield the results that your looking for
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Thanks... crazy week. I will try it as soon as I can and post the results. Thanks for the advice.
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If you have unlimited data on your plan you dont get charged for data while roaming
To update anyone interested I have used almost 4GB roaming an have still not received a nasty gram from Sprint. It is almost 95% data and minutes roaming. I will keep everyone posted of this changes.
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Are you able to get 3g speeds while roaming? I'm assuming so or you probably would have to have been downloading something huge this while time on a 1x network.
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Are you able to get 3g speeds while roaming? I'm assuming so or you probably would have to have been downloading something huge this while time on a 1x network.
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One would think, but no I am committed. Rocking the 1x baby!
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Sprint sent me a letter and gave me a few calls from their roaming department when I hit about 12 GB plus a few more of roaming data. I was mainly tethered to the internet from the laptop and uploading my music collection to play music. I have the 11115 prl to access 3g and every once in a while data would drop.
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was searching and this is the most relevant thread I could find to the subject.
I have a photon on 3.5 and live in a pretty rural area. I lose all reception halfway up my driveway lol.
also even in town where I work I get pretty poor reception at times.
My question is since I am on 3.5 is it possible to change the prl to force roaming on Verizon?
*coworkers that have Verizon get full signal while I sit at 2 bars or less*
I understand sprints roaming situation with cancelling but I don't think that will be an issue. heck if they cancel me without an ETF i'd probably be happy.
ronj75 said:
was searching and this is the most relevant thread I could find to the subject.
I have a photon on 3.5 and live in a pretty rural area. I lose all reception halfway up my driveway lol.
also even in town where I work I get pretty poor reception at times.
My question is since I am on 3.5 is it possible to change the prl to force roaming on Verizon?
*coworkers that have Verizon get full signal while I sit at 2 bars or less*
I understand sprints roaming situation with cancelling but I don't think that will be an issue. heck if they cancel me without an ETF i'd probably be happy.
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Might as well unlock gsm on your photon that'll probably be your best bet
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Since this thing has already been rooted and has cdma/evdo, will we be able to use this on Sprint?
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Since this thing has already been rooted and has cdma/evdo, will we be able to use this on Sprint?
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NO
So, we just have to wait for the hack to get it working on Sprint? Too bad we can't just shove a sim in and have it work like it does on AT&T and Tmobile. But, I'm sure the wizards here on xda will have a Sprint hack for it shortly...
I don't think its that easy haha
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No hack will make it work on sprint. Radios don't have sprint bands.
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nrfitchett4 said:
No hack will make it work on sprint. Radios don't have sprint bands.
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Hmm... No offense, but I have a sprint phone and sprint service yet I use only Verizon towers using a very simple hack. So, I can verify sprint and Verizon use absolutely the same radios. All my phone calls and 3G data go over Verizon and at 10 times the speed. When I remove the hack and go back to Sprint towers, my data slows down by 10 times and my call quality goes down. Now, I realize they use different frequencies for LTE, but Sprint has hardly any usable LTE anyway and where I live, I will be the very last to get LTE on Sprint if at all.
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Hmm... No offense, but I have a sprint phone and sprint service yet I use only Verizon towers using a very simple hack. So, I can verify sprint and Verizon use absolutely the same radios. All my phone calls and 3G data go over Verizon and at 10 times the speed. When I remove the hack and go back to Sprint towers, my data slows down by 10 times and my call quality goes down. Now, I realize they use different frequencies for LTE, but Sprint has hardly any usable LTE anyway and where I live, I will be the very last to get LTE on Sprint if at all.
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are you sure you are using verizon towers. From what I've heard, if on sprint and >50% of your usage is in roaming for 2 months, they will end your service.
Also, sprint phones with lte use embedded sims, I think they are device specific, but maybe not. But how are you going to get that sprint sim, and no promises that the sprint sim will be recognized by the verizon phone.
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are you sure you are using verizon towers. From what I've heard, if on sprint and >50% of your usage is in roaming for 2 months, they will end your service.
Also, sprint phones with lte use embedded sims, I think they are device specific, but maybe not. But how are you going to get that sprint sim, and no promises that the sprint sim will be recognized by the verizon phone.
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Yes, I've been using Verizon towers for almost a year now, but I'm very careful to not go over 1GB data per month. Most of my data is over WiFi, and then use Verizon 3G when not near WiFi. My phone roamed over 50% of the time before I did the hack anyway. I do all app downloads and upgrades over WiFi only. Anyway, if Sprint does use an embedded sim, then maybe it's not possible, just seems like there should be a way because Verizon and Sprint both use compatible CDMA and 2G/3G Radios.
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Yes, I've been using Verizon towers for almost a year now, but I'm very careful to not go over 1GB data per month. Most of my data is over WiFi, and then use Verizon 3G when not near WiFi. My phone roamed over 50% of the time before I did the hack anyway. I do all app downloads and upgrades over WiFi only. Anyway, if Sprint does use an embedded sim, then maybe it's not possible, just seems like there should be a way because Verizon and Sprint both use compatible CDMA and 2G/3G Radios.
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But with the way CDMA works with Sprint and Verizon, the phone has to be added to the carrier's device database in order to natively work on the network (and not be forced into roaming via a hack). Sprint won't add a Verizon phone to their database, nor will Verizon add a Sprint phone to their database. That's the main reason it won't work through legitimate means (and, as already mentioned, they use different LTE bands, so LTE won't work either).
So, in reality, there's no legal way to get the DNA fully working on Sprint.