Yea, so I ordered the TF201-DOCK for $160.18 and went to Best Buy to pick it up, once I got home I realized that BB gave me a actual TF201 prime and not the dock.
If I do not return the tablet can BB go after me for theft even though they made the mistake?
Rofl keep it! Its such a bargain Haha!!
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I was thinking the same thing but eventually I figure BB will know its missing and most likely report its serial number stolen, and I'm sure ASUS keeps track of IPs patching with Serial Numbers etc.
No bargain if it lands me in trouble later.
wait it out lol
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Something similar happened to me months ago. I went to BB to price match the 32gb TF101 for $399 and they ended up giving me the dock and tablet combo for that price. Nothing happened, I don't think they even realized their mistake. They loose or misplace so much inventory that I would not worry about them coming after you. Then again there is always that first time lol. Seriously though, I wouldn't worry.
I don't think it is necessarily theft, but what if you need to use the warranty? Does the receipt say it's the dock or the tablet? Something to think about: What if the person that accidentally gave you the tablet loses their job over it? I would feel guilty keeping it. Now, if your receipt shows a tablet sold to you at the dock's price then I wouldn't worry about. Besides, that's probably close to what they pay for it and the remainder is most likely mark-up.
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You would've been better off just not saying anything about it period. Not even up here.that's where you slipped up at. That's how people get caught..lmfao never smart enough to keep quiet about it n wanna blab about it to everyone.
Might as well return it now. Call of a good deed. Return it to a manager and he will probably give you a nice legal discount on the prime.
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I don't think it is necessarily theft, but what if you need to use the warranty? Does the receipt say it's the dock or the tablet? Something to think about: What if the person that accidentally gave you the tablet loses their job over it? I would feel guilty keeping it. Now, if your receipt shows a tablet sold to you at the dock's price then I wouldn't worry about. Besides, that's probably close to what they pay for it and the remainder is most likely mark-up.
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Actually it is theft. Just like if a bank accidentally puts a million dollars in your bank account. Then you use it up. They eventually find out and tell you to return it. But you don't have OG anymore. So they can easily file a police report and sue you. Because you knew it wasn't your money although it was the banks mistake.
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Actually it is theft. Just like if a bank accidentally puts a million dollars in your bank account. Then you use it up. They eventually find out and tell you to return it. But you don't have OG anymore. So they can easily file a police report and sue you. Because you knew it wasn't your money although it was the banks mistake.
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What if you join a league of assassins and it shows up in your account the next day then disappears a few days later after you kill the leader of the league which happens to look like Morgan Freeman? Could you report it as stolen then since its not in your account anymore?
as a first thing, ask admin to delete this thread.
Then wait for some time and do not use it for a while...you still can state you have not opened a package for some, let's say "private" reasons.
I expect you already have another prime if you wanted to order a dock, right?
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Something to think about: What if the person that accidentally gave you the tablet loses their job over it? I would feel guilty keeping it.
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There is another point of view to that: Chances are bigger to trace the fault back to that particular person if he returns the tablet.
So, returning the tablet might end up in getting this person fired. How´s that for your conscience?
Meh I have decided to return it, I have a prime, a ipad2 and a a500 so I am good in the tablet dept. TBH three people failed, 1) the person who brought the product to the delivery counter. 2) The person who gave it to me. 3) The security guy at the door who inspected my receipt and item. I did not discover the error until I went to open my dock. Whatever BB decides to do to the employees is their business, myself I will have a clean conscience.
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I'd have kept it.
From having worked in retail, I know things like this are insignificant in the scheme of stock control.
It is technically theft, but just wait one calendar month (most retail places do stock control monthly). If it's all ok by then, keep it.
Besides, it's not as if they're going to contact every BB Prime customer and ask if they got given a tablet instead of a dock. How would they ever know it was you?
or send it to me, I'll give you $250 for it ))
I'll trade you a (Damn near impossible to find) Champagne dock for it!
Good guy Greg, is it you?
Karma is a *****...but that is just me.
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I returned it and got my dock. Apparently they knew it was missing as they do not carry the prime and it was a ship to store order for some other guy who tried to pick it up last night before closing hours.
The employee in receiving realized he may have given the wrong item to someone so I assume they would of tracked down that the dock I bought was signed for and never picked up and put 2+2 together.
The manager was very thankful, my conscience is clear however unfortunately I think 2 people lost their jobs, after calling them upfront the manager told them to "go home".
Remember the Prime you could have kept the next time you see the unemployment rate bump up. jk
I totally would've kept it, sold it and bought another dock.
The bank account comparison is really off because that is NOT your money and you did nothing to deserve it.
In the case of the store, you went to the store, you gave them money for the product you ordered, and then you accepted what they gave you. You did not intend to fault an employee into giving you a tablet for $160. If a customer unknowingly received a product that was valued-less than the product they ordered (that is retail, after all), then would you consider it theft by the employee/store? Would the mistake by the employee be any less severe?
No, either way you look at it, their stock levels for both products would've been off and that would be a fault of that employee/store. And if the store had to pinpoint where the fault occurred, the repercussions for that employee would probably be the same as if you (the customer) brought back a mislabeled/misplaced product.
There would be no conscience gain for me.
It's a question of moral and ethic...
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I just read Office Depot's return policy on this. If it is opened you can only get an exchange, no refund. Only way to get a refund is to have NOT opened it. Weird, huh?
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I just read Office Depot's return policy on this. If it is opened you can only get an exchange, no refund. Only way to get a refund is to have NOT opened it. Weird, huh?
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if the unit does not have any issue why do you want to return it?
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I just read Office Depot's return policy on this. If it is opened you can only get an exchange, no refund. Only way to get a refund is to have NOT opened it. Weird, huh?
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It is weird, but I think they take it if it is defective. The key is defective.
Or Buy one from somewhere else and return the unopened one to OD.
Next!
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if the unit does not have any issue why do you want to return it?
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I accidently ordered one from Office Depot and I can't cancel it. It will be here next week on Tuesday or Wednesday. I forgot that I won't be opening it, so I can return it for a full refund. Unless someone wants it here? Of course need to confirm delivery, since New Year holiday is here.
If you open it, and it is defective, you can take it to a office depot store and get a refund.
They will try to exchange it but seeing that they will not be having any available in store anytime soon they will just have to give you a full refund.
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I accidently ordered one from Office Depot and I can't cancel it. It will be here next week on Tuesday or Wednesday. I forgot that I won't be opening it, so I can return it for a full refund. Unless someone wants it here? Of course need to confirm delivery, since New Year holiday is here.
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I'll really love to buy it from you right now but I have my money with Bestbuy ($600)
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jzen said:
If you open it, and it is defective, you can take it to a office depot store and get a refund.
They will try to exchange it but seeing that they will not be having any available in store anytime soon they will just have to give you a full refund.
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If you did open it and you find any issue with the item return it for exchange, don't open the Prime then return it as new item for refund!!!
Yea, I'll just return it UNopened then. I'll be a nice guy first and ask if anyone needs it.
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Yea, I'll just return it UNopened then. I'll be a nice guy first and ask if anyone needs it.
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32 GB? Or 64?
Grey or Gold?
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if the unit does not have any issue why do you want to return it?
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Since ASUS removed the "GPS" feature from the product sheet online. It might be that much harder to argue that since GPS doesn't work, it's defective.
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Since ASUS removed the "GPS" feature from the product sheet online. It might be that much harder to argue that since GPS doesn't work, it's defective.
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I suspect that is precisely why they did it... Very shady indeed. I don't think I will buy another Asus product if this is how they resolve issues.
Its as if they threw together a device that would sell like hot cakes, didn't really think it out or make sure it was working correctly. They just wanted to cash out quickly and seems as if they could care less about what we think.
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I suspect that is precisely why they did it... Very shady indeed. I don't think I will buy another Asus product if this is how they resolve issues.
Its as if they threw together a device that would sell like hot cakes, didn't really think it out or make sure it was working correctly. They just wanted to cash out quickly and seems as if they could care less about what we think.
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I really want to be wrong though. ASUS is still a top tier hardware & laptop manufacturer. It just doesn't make sense to me how they'd let their tablet department get so far out of hand that this sort of disgraceful stuff could go on. This honestly doesn't seem like ASUS at all. They're usually extremely trust-worthy and conscientious.
If this doesn't get fixed we could see a major restructuring of their tablet line, or have it abandoned all-together. ASUS takes real pride in their reputation, and this whole fiasco is tarnishing their reputation pretty badly.
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I really want to be wrong though. ASUS is still a top tier hardware & laptop manufacturer. It just doesn't make sense to me how they'd let their tablet department get so far out of hand that this sort of disgraceful stuff could go on. This honestly doesn't seem like ASUS at all. They're usually extremely trust-worthy and conscientious.
If this doesn't get fixed we could see a major restructuring of their tablet line, or have it abandoned all-together. ASUS takes real pride in their reputation, and this whole fiasco is tarnishing their reputation pretty badly.
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How sure are we of that? I remember ASUS as one of the top tier motherboard manufactures, perhaps 3rd behind Gigabyte and MSI.
but as far as the top tier laptops go, IBM/Lenovo, DELL, Gateway, SONY, Toshiba, HP, Apple and Samsung having had that market covered.
It's sort of strange today that ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI all make laptops now instead of just motherboards. But are we really certain that ASUS has passed the brands above? I can't picture the above brands acting in the same manner ASUS have being doing with the Prime.
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I really want to be wrong though. ASUS is still a top tier hardware & laptop manufacturer. It just doesn't make sense to me how they'd let their tablet department get so far out of hand that this sort of disgraceful stuff could go on. This honestly doesn't seem like ASUS at all. They're usually extremely trust-worthy and conscientious.
If this doesn't get fixed we could see a major restructuring of their tablet line, or have it abandoned all-together. ASUS takes real pride in their reputation, and this whole fiasco is tarnishing their reputation pretty badly.
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This will not affect them in anyway. This is all like what happened with the OG Transformer. We all said Asus is going done hill, but in reality they were never affected and just fixed whatever issues there were
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I just read Office Depot's return policy on this. If it is opened you can only get an exchange, no refund. Only way to get a refund is to have NOT opened it. Weird, huh?
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seeing posts like this make me thank the higher powers that we have much better consumer protection in the UK. stupidity like this from big brand stores just make me cringe.
You can refuse the delivery. OD told me that themselves.
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If you open it, and it is defective, you can take it to a office depot store and get a refund.
They will try to exchange it but seeing that they will not be having any available in store anytime soon they will just have to give you a full refund.
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I think u can not return to the store when you buy ur item online..they have 14 days return policy when ur item is opened and incase is defective and u will get ur money if you want a refund. Thats what csr told when i chatted with them.
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long story short.
loved my prime.
got pre order from amazon.
ICS update
Prime constant reboots
didnt wait
sent to amazon for full refund
received refund bought prime from Office Depot
got prime
got ICS
working fine but no GPS and very bad WIFI
complained
got RMA
they replaced the WIFI card
shocking - no change still no GPS bad wifi
wrote to Gary a private MSG
he send me an email and CC trinity and Troy
they give me options:
1. RMA again.
2. Wait for future update.
3. Refund.
i choose refund.
after a full month and a half of emails
Sadly Trinity (which assigned to my case) is EXTREMELY busy and email support is EXTREMELY slow BUT they deliver....
once i found out their Queue direct line phone number and not the Generic 1800 one i called and each time i got Troy who took care of me and helped processed the RMA.
eventually after a month and a half of emails , 4 months total with the prime almost 70 emails and 4 phone calls i got the check today by mail.
full refund from asus.
conclusion.
very impressed with the turn around and the actual fact i got full refund for both the tablet and the dock.
lil upset with the time frame but i do understand i am one in a million that contact them.
so the bottom line is that i got the full refund and that made me feel good and earned ASUS my respect.
i intend to keep the $ aside for the 700 which is the (hopefully) bug/mistake free transformer prime....
just my 2 cents
m.a.s.e said:
long story short.
loved my prime.
got pre order from amazon.
ICS update
Prime constant reboots
didnt wait
sent to amazon for full refund
received refund bought prime from Office Depot
got prime
got ICS
working fine but no GPS and very bad WIFI
complained
got RMA
they replaced the WIFI card
shocking - no change still no GPS bad wifi
wrote to Gary a private MSG
he send me an email and CC trinity and Troy
they give me options:
1. RMA again.
2. Wait for future update.
3. Refund.
i choose refund.
after a full month and a half of emails
Sadly Trinity (which assigned to my case) is EXTREMELY busy and email support is EXTREMELY slow BUT they deliver....
once i found out their Queue direct line phone number and not the Generic 1800 one i called and each time i got Troy who took care of me and helped processed the RMA.
eventually after a month and a half of emails , 4 months total with the prime almost 70 emails and 4 phone calls i got the check today by mail.
full refund from asus.
conclusion.
very impressed with the turn around and the actual fact i got full refund for both the tablet and the dock.
lil upset with the time frame but i do understand i am one in a million that contact them.
so the bottom line is that i got the full refund and that made me feel good and earned ASUS my respect.
i intend to keep the $ aside for the 700 which is the (hopefully) bug/mistake free transformer prime....
just my 2 cents
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I have sent Gary a few private messages regarding the issues I have been having with the WiFi and GPS, but haven't gotten a response from him ... consider yourself lucky in that regard. I too was asking for a full refund, but with the new GPS dongle development, I may forgo that option and hold onto it in the hope they will also rectify the WiFi issue.
hope for u too...
i quickly learned that in order to get a response from them i need to send short, to the point emails with specific details....
no explanations etc. just facts 1, 2 ,3. that how i got the best response from them.... i also send my prime back extremely organized with ALL documentation highly detailed with proof of emails from trinity, a cover letter with the refind request ETC.
once i stopped sending Gary love notes and just gave him my email address, told him i bought the prime for GPS (which is true, that plus wifi) and requested refund then communicated with trinity in short to the point emails i got my money back....
waiting for 700
Why don't you guys return where you bought from?
You have enough time within the return period to test it out.
So now you guys are basically returning a used product that even the retailer wouldn't take back and want the manufacturer to refund you?
If I were Asus, I would tell you guys to go fly a kite!
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Elisha said:
Why don't you guys return where you bought from?
You have enough time within the return period to test it out.
So now you guys are basically returning a used product that even the retailer wouldn't take back and want the manufacturer to refund you?
If I were Asus, I would tell you guys to go fly a kite!
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well
obviously u didn't read...
Like I said, ill explain again for the slow learners.
I did sent back the original back to Amazon, bought the prime again. Tested and when it didn't work sent it back to asus for rma (replace the wifi and gps) which didn't help but took long enough for the return period to pass.
Discussed with Gary who offered a full refund .
And so this thread is not to say"I win", but in fact to say"kudos for asus".
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I have sent Gary a few private messages regarding the issues I have been having with the WiFi and GPS, but haven't gotten a response from him ... consider yourself lucky in that regard. I too was asking for a full refund, but with the new GPS dongle development, I may forgo that option and hold onto it in the hope they will also rectify the WiFi issue.
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Unless they replace the back panel, wifi will probably not be improved much. Not a software fix.
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Unless they replace the back panel, wifi will probably not be improved much. Not a software fix.
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agreed...
Thats why I am waiting for the 700... Infinity....
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What did you write in your PM that is so magical? i havent got a response from him even from prior pms...
If you want to get a response from Gary, send him an email, not a PM (it's an option via the forum). Include your contact info in the email.
did you guys have to provide a receipt? i don't have my receipt no more and paid cash in jan -_-
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did you guys have to provide a receipt? i don't have my receipt no more and paid cash in jan -_-
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sorry buddy but sounds like you outta luck. they going to want proof of purchase. even warranty claims want proof of receipt or purchase. why you get rid of receipt? I made sure to stash mines away for when i need it.
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even warranty claims want proof of receipt or purchase.
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Not necessarily true, I RMA'd my original TF101 for light bleed, dust under screen and right speaker issues and a copy of the receipt was not requested. Mind you this was within 12 months of the TF101's release. But I agree that they will more than likely request onein order to issue a refund.
Sounds like you were unlucky with your Prime!
Mine's been great and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Asus product.
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did you guys have to provide a receipt? i don't have my receipt no more and paid cash in jan -_-
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yes, you have to show a receipt.
i paid online for both my dock and tablet and when they offered the full refund i logged into my bestbuy account and office depot account and printed out the invoices.
that was enough.
even if u paid cash u can go back to the store and ask for the receipt, by law they are obligated to save it for some time in records....
as for sending Gary PM. i agree, you will get better luck by sending an email with your email address a brief description and a phone to contact you.
good luck...
and as mentioned before, i will def continue buying from asus. love the products, and waiting for the next infinity....
i just had a bad luck with the prime, no big deal....
No offense to anyone but I think I feel more sorry for the ASUS end of all that e-mail/phone calls than the OP, especially with how much they must deal with it.
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No offense to anyone but I think I feel more sorry for the ASUS end of all that e-mail/phone calls than the OP, especially with how much they must deal with it.
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Sorry for Asus? This is nothing more than ASUS sleeping in the bed they made for themselves. Like the old saying goes what goes up must come down, so if you're going to toss crap in the air don't be surprised if the odd turd falls on your head.
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No offense to anyone but I think I feel more sorry for the ASUS end of all that e-mail/phone calls than the OP, especially with how much they must deal with it.
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i don't understand why u think like that.
I paid 700$ for a device I purchased so I can use at the university.
But for the life of me I could not get a wifi signal.
My Samsung phone and ipad i sold
to get the prime were able to connect with full bars.
My prime was useless with no internet access for my docks and drop box.
So no, I could not deal with that.
I also didn't wanted an additional accessory to bulk things up. I did went the normal route of rma and it didn't help.
So for 700$ asking for wifi to work properly is not too much.
Asus did what they should have expected from them and that is-is the rma process didn't help refund the money.
It is not my fault I waited 3 weeks for the rma process and lost my window to return the device.
I followed their instructions, to send the tablet to them.
U should not be justifying them, they did the expected thing by refunding.
By doing so they kept me as a customer to buy the 700 with the design flaw fixed from the prime....
Why is it so simple to understand this is customer service....
I am happy u got a working prime, I didn't....
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Yeah, ASUS did rather bungle a few things -- I especially think it's a egg-splat-face moment how the Prime/TF300/Infinity seem to be related. BUT I can still have sympathy for the ASUS employees and associates that are stuck with all this.
Who the heck must want to deal with this products customer support, even if it's there job? Really.
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Yeah, ASUS did rather bungle a few things -- I especially think it's a egg-splat-face moment how the Prime/TF300/Infinity seem to be related. BUT I can still have sympathy for the ASUS employees and associates that are stuck with all this.
Who the heck must want to deal with this products customer support, even if it's there job? Really.
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That is their job... I go to University for 6 hours and then I come home and have to deal with homework. Why don't you feel sorry for me.
Besides, if their service wasnt so bad there won't even be that many problems. I RMAd a HP laptop before that was a bit over warranty and they sent me the shipping label and fixed it for free. The process took 1 phone call and 2 weeks. My Prime has arrived in their facility since 5 weeks ago and i had to pay for shipping.
i guess its just a matter of pure luck+individual case.
for those who got a perfectly working prime, that's awesome.
but also need to understand some of us got a none working prime.
those who rather wait for a fix for the lock-ups/ its their choice alone.
me personally since money does not grow on trees, i believe that if i paid 700$ for a device i expect it to work . unless i broke it...
first day i bought a screen protector and a case and all that to protect my prime. but when it failed to do the only reason i bought it for , which is to give me access to my documents while at school. it automatically became useless for me.
to each its own.
i don't feel bad for those support reps... it is their jobs.
i did not call and screamed like a lil boy.
all i did was to inquire about my RMA process,
and when it didn't help i requested help from an ASUS rep on this forum.
i give praise for ASUS to even have an official rep here.
but that is also THIER choice to put a rep here, if they didnt want/expected customers to contact him then why even let him be here.
they offered, i took them on their offer.
and going back to the saying that for me, moeney does not grow on trees, once they offered a full refund i said "yes" and there were dalays in response, so i kept on sending emails.
not screeming or cursing, but neirly asking for an update.
until they answered and get the ball rolling.
if you have rich parents that buy you any prime u want, kudos for u.
if you had a prime with zero problems from the begining, awesome for u.
my kudos (IN MY PERSONAL CASE) will go to Garry and ASUS for handeling (MY PERSONAL CASE) to my satisfation.
my post was to acknolege their kudos and to show others that there is a chance.
by giving up those dongles , ASUS admited for having an issue.
for me, i simply couldnt wait, not wanted to with a 700$ product i wanted it to perform as it should be.
same way as everyone was complaining with the iphone4 grip of death...
I was browsing around change.org today and I came across this. A petition to recall the prime and give users a full refund or an upgrade path to the 700. Not sure why no one but the person who started it signed it. I know if you ***** enough asus will refund your $ so maybe that's why the poster didnt pursue the petition?
http://www.change.org/petitions/asustek-recall-the-transformer-prime
edit: I just signed it for ****s and giggles.. I doubt anything will come from it especially since it doesnt seem the person who posted it is really pushing it.
Probably because it was created yesterday.. I believe.
Oh god, here we go again.
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Oh god, here we go again.
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what do you mean?? I was just asking if anyone has seen it... so oh god yourself.
actually, there was one created with exact same theme a long time ago. it never really gained any traction as the path to upgrade wasn't realistic from a business point of view. I'm not sure if the one you have linked to is the same one. But I've seen a petition just like that made several months ago. I think when we all first heard of the Infinity Pad. Made alot of people mad..lol
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actually, there was one created with exact same theme a long time ago. it never really gained any traction as the path to upgrade wasn't realistic from a business point of view. I'm not sure if the one you have linked to is the same one. But I've seen a petition just like that made several months ago. I think when we all first heard of the Infinity Pad. Made alot of people mad..lol
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yeah I doubt anything will come from it, Just was wondering if anyone else came across it.
But I do know they are offering really unhappy users refunds (my friend was told by gary he could get a full refund for the tablet and dock)
My way of looking at that is this:
If they refund everyone who is extremely unhappy they have to refund them for the full retail price of the tablet and the dock(and I'm guessing tax?). So they have to dish out the retail price of it when we all know it cost them a fraction of that amount to produce them. I honestly think from a business stand point and upgrade path would be better because then they would only have to replace the tablet(assuming the docks are compatible) which is much cheaper for them then refunding the full retail purchase amount. Even if they didnt upgrade the tablet to the 700 and just replaced the backplate on the prime and maybe the wifi/bt and gps modules it would also be cheaper for them than having to refund the purchase price.
And just let me say again.. I was just asking if anyone has seen it or heard of the one I linked. Not trying to promote, have it gain momentum or start a WW3. Just simply wanted to know if anyone else stumbled on it like I have.
These petitions are always worthless.
You bought a consumer product. If you don't like it or it doesn't meet your expectations, return it to where you got it within the return period.
I have never seen a return period that is less than 14 days, and if it takes you more than two weeks to realize that the product doesn't meet your expectations, there is something obviously wrong with you.
If you waited months for an update to be released in order to make the device meet your expectations, I am sorry but you are a fool. You should always buy a device for what that device is NOW, not for what is may become in the future.
In any event, if you want an "upgrade path" here it is:
Sell the Prime on eBay. If you have taken good care of your device you should get at least $400 for it. Use that $400 to help pay for the Transformer Infinity.
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These petitions are always worthless.
You bought a consumer product. If you don't like it or it doesn't meet your expectations, return it to where you got it within the return period.
I have never seen a return period that is less than 14 days, and if it takes you more than two weeks to realize that the product doesn't meet your expectations, there is something obviously wrong with you.
If you waited months for an update to be released in order to make the device meet your expectations, I am sorry but you are a fool. You should always buy a device for what that device is NOW, not for what is may become in the future.
In any event, if you want an "upgrade path" here it is:
Sell the Prime on eBay. If you have taken good care of your device you should get at least $400 for it. Use that $400 to help pay for the Transformer Infinity.
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I think you need to read my post again.. did I say anything about being unhappy? No.. Did I say I wanted an upgrade? No. All I did was ask if anyone came across it... gessh..
I even signed it with this comment:
"I agree there have been many issues with the prime. Not all users have issues but it seems more have them than not have them. I will support this as I do feel the prime wasnt ready to be released. I had issues with my first 2 units. The only issue I have with my current unit is some backlight bleed but my tf101 has worse BL bleed than my prime"
And I do feel the device wasnt ready for prime time. I'm pretty happy with mine. the only issue I really have is the screen bleeding and that's not even that bad and since I have squaretrade I'm thinking of popping it open and fixing that myself.
Hell I was outside yesterday and tried gps for the first time on this unit without the dongle and I got a 12/13 sat lock. Today I tried and I got 8/9. I was pretty surprised by that
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I think you need to read my post again.. did I say anything about being unhappy? No.. Did I say I wanted an upgrade? No. All I did was ask if anyone came across it... gessh..
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Dude, take the bug out of your ass!
Did I say anything specifically about you?
Did I mention you in any way?
My comment was 100% focused on the futile nature of these online petitions, which generally go ignored by manufacturers and which are generally started by people who don't exercise the procedures that already exist that allow customers to gain compensation for purchases that do not meet expectations.
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Dude, take the bug out of your ass!
Did I say anything about you?
Did I mention you in any way?
My comment was 100% focused on the futile nature of these online petitions, which generally go ignored by manufacturers and which are generally started by people who don't exercise the procedures that already exist that allow customers to gain compensation for purchases that do not meet expectations.
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ok fair enough..lol But the fact that asus is offering refunds to people really unhappy says something as well. It says the company knows they kinda screwed up. Because in most cases: yeah, it is your problem and they dont have to offer you a refund at all. Like you said you have at least 14 days(if not longer) to return to the store. But the fact they are offering refunds to people who ***** enough does say something. Some companies no matter how much you put up a stink wont issue you a refund. A replacement? yes, but how often do they offer full refunds?
Asus should offer a upgrade and make Nvidia pick up the tab for the not ready for prime time T3
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ok fair enough..lol But the fact that asus is offering refunds to people really unhappy says something as well. It says the company knows they kinda screwed up. Because in most cases yeah it is your problem and they dont have to offer you a refund at all. like you said you have at least 14 days(if not longer) to return to the store. But the fact they are offering refunds to people who ***** enough does say something.
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I think any company that is serious about their customers does the same kind of thing. At least, HTC replaced my malfunctioning EVO 4G no questions asked. Samsung has replaced televisions and refunded me for broken televisions with no problems.
Some companies give you the run around when it comes to this kind of stuff (Looking at you Sony) but for most companies it isn't worth the negative press, especially in this day and age of internet blogging and twitter.
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I think any company that is serious about their customers does the same kind of thing. At least, HTC replaced my malfunctioning EVO 4G no questions asked. Samsung has replaced televisions and refunded me for broken televisions with no problems.
Some companies give you the run around when it comes to this kind of stuff (Looking at you Sony) but for most companies it isn't worth the negative press, especially in this day and age of internet blogging and twitter.
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you must be good. haha I've never been offered a refund. Replacements I have been offered but never a full refund. Hell I just dealt with an issue with Dell. They replaced my laptop with a refirb(accidental warranty) and started having issues with it two months later. They sent a tech to fix it, he fixed those issues but didnt send him a preloaded HD just a blank one so I have to load everything myself, and after the repair the keyboard didnt fully work. So they come again to fix that, they fix that then one speaker dies.. It took me filing a BBB complaint to have them contact me to give me a brand new system. No matter how much I *****ed before they just wanted to keep trying to fix it.
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I think any company that is serious about their customers does the same kind of thing. At least, HTC replaced my malfunctioning EVO 4G no questions asked. Samsung has replaced televisions and refunded me for broken televisions with no problems.
Some companies give you the run around when it comes to this kind of stuff (Looking at you Sony) but for most companies it isn't worth the negative press, especially in this day and age of internet blogging and twitter.
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Oh and sorry for being a little snippy.. It's hot and humid as hell in NYC today and all the garbage is out for collection tomorrow so you can imagine the streets just smell like roses
Technically, refunds aren't given to just any and everyone who asks for it. you have to meet specific criteria for them to even consider it. Mostly just early adopters or people who bought prime before they removed GPS From their official spec, like beginning or first week of January, are eligible. but even then terms have to be met and not all of them can get it. just wanted to clear that up so everyone don't get their hopes up thinking they can get a refund. there's already several reported cases here in xda of people being denied.
I'm still waiting to hear back on certain info that'll clear up alot of things. I think Asus knows even people who have good working tablets might try to get a refund just because infinity pad right around the corner..lol. so they trying to eliminate refunds that have no real basis for getting one. Chances are very high that if you never sent your tablet in for an RMA, then try to come out the blue wanting a refund, they will deny it. They will just say send it in for RMA.
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ok fair enough..lol But the fact that asus is offering refunds to people really unhappy says something as well. It says the company knows they kinda screwed up. Because in most cases: yeah, it is your problem and they dont have to offer you a refund at all. Like you said you have at least 14 days(if not longer) to return to the store. But the fact they are offering refunds to people who ***** enough does say something. Some companies no matter how much you put up a stink wont issue you a refund. A replacement? yes, but how often do they offer full refunds?
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I was just about to comment on this ... I purchased my Prime on December 24th and after trying to, more or less, put up with horrible WiFi, completely non-functional GPS, and a proposed dongle solution that was not satisfactory, I was able to return my Prime (and dock) to Asus for a full refund. As a matter of fact, I just shipped it in last week, so I am still waiting on the refund, but I don't foresee any issues. The reason they let me return it was due to GPS issues, and probably legal ones on their part since GPS was a feature when i bought, but did not work, was removed from the spec list, and the solution was not satisfactory. I said all that, to say that the petition is not necessary. If you have a legitimate reason for requesting to return you TF201, they will probably work with you. On the other hand, people trying to get a refund just to get an upcoming model just need to learn some patience, and not jump on the first generation of something (ie. tegra 3). With that said, if your reason for requesting a refund has to do with the GPS issue, I was finally able to get someone with the authority to authorize one in what he said was the "Transformer Prime GPS issue department."
I purchased my Prime from Office Depot online in January. Based on the returns Best Buy is allowing I called Office Depot and they are not accepting them back, manufacturers defects or not.
The tech I spoke with did say he spoke with his manager and he said I need to call ASUS as they are recalling the Primes.
Needless to say the ASUS website has no phone listed, or operable, in the US. Anyone have phone number for ASUS?
ASUS Product Support Toll Free: (888) 678-3688
Interesting.. keep us posted
Gooooogle
http://www.service.asus.com/infopage.aspx?rid=7#!Contact Us/cw8z
[just like the poster above posted]
clockwork58 said:
Gooooogle
http://www.service.asus.com/infopage.aspx?rid=7#!Contact Us/cw8z
[just like the poster above posted]
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Thanks, but I tried that earlier and got an oops....try again. ASUS way of saying, don't bother.
Should be no different from a car maker recall for a bad tire or bad brake, Asus should have done this as soon as the GPS and Wifi problems were identified and confirmed. The FCC should be initiating this policy to protect the consumers but they seem to be pretending asleep as the wheel while collecting fees for certification! That really sucks doesn't it?
Asus is doing a recall?? Are we positive on this news?
If so, I hope they email everyone who purchased this stinker.... I'll gladly take my refund.
Or is this just retail vendor recall??? sigh...
Been on the phone for 20 minutes and all they want to do is issue an RMA so they can look at it.
E techie said they have not been notified of a prime recall. Waiting on a supervisor.
Per supervisor no recall has been issued. All they can do is issue an rma to return it.
Feeling so violated, Office Depot and ASUS...never again.
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Asus is doing a recall?? Are we positive on this news?
If so, I hope they email everyone who purchased this stinker.... I'll gladly take my refund.
Or is this just retail vendor recall??? sigh...
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There is no recall. Just hopeful rumors. Like other poster said, they will offer to RMA it.
demandarin said:
There is no recall. Just hopeful rumors. Like other poster said, they will offer to RMA it.
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Bummer
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yeah, I emailed ASUS last week and never got a reply. I wanted it out of my site so I traded it for a couple iPod Touch 32GBs. Took a bit of a hit on it, but I agree, never again on ASUS. I am not an Apple "lover", but the iPad 3 I got hasn't been put down since I got it. Now, iPhone I will never own.
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http://www.service.asus.com/infopage.aspx?rid=7#!Contact Us/cw8z
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Did you click your link? Try it. Oops....
demandarin said:
There is no recall. Just hopeful rumors. Like other poster said, they will offer to RMA it.
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Your opinion.
It may be rumors, but it was the excuse Office Depot supervisor used for sending me back ASSUS. Fact!
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There is no recall. Just hopeful rumors. Like other poster said, they will offer to RMA it.
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Are you going to tell me "Prime is discontinued"... is still a rumor as well....
If I remember correctly, since April... there hasn't been any new "version" of Prime...but of course, Asus (and you) kept telling us that Prime won't be discontinued, will continue to be produced, and will sell next to Infinity.
So much for that... although... they... are.. sort of selling Prime next to Infinity through online, although most online vendors are starting to take Prime out of their system and replacing it with TF700. But yea.. so much for Asus & their promise/statement.. or whatever.
As for recall... could just mean "inventory" recall from all vendors. Now, the hopeful rumor is recalling "all" Primes for refund/exchange. =/ I prefer the hopeful rumor....
You guys know as well as I do there's not gonna be no recall.
If you really had enough with your 201, take it with no receipt to you know where and make something up if you really want an Infinity or something else before its too late. Multiple reports already of no receipt given credit... you can either complain to us who agree but know Asus will do nothing or you can try to get rid of it, read on page 2 of that thread nobody else had tried it without ADH before I went, I had just had enough of the wifi/bt on my Prime. If the first store I went to had told me no (and I had receipt) would have just went to the other ones around here til somebody gave me credit for it
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You guys know as well as I do there's not gonna be no recall.
If you really had enough with your 201, take it with no receipt to you know where and make something up if you really want an Infinity or something else before its too late. Multiple reports already of no receipt given credit... you can either complain to us who agree but know Asus will do nothing or you can try to get rid of it, read on page 2 of that thread nobody else had tried it without ADH before I went, I had just had enough of the wifi/bt on my Prime. If the first store I went to had told me no (and I had receipt) would have just went to the other ones around here til somebody gave me credit for it
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I would if mine is from Best Buy... but mine is from Gamestop. =/
That exchange works for Best Buy only so far.. it seems.
shinzz said:
I would if mine is from Best Buy... but mine is from Gamestop. =/
That exchange works for Best Buy only so far.. it seems.
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Like I said, there has been several reports in the thread as long as you have your box and charger, take it say it was a gift you dont have the receipt and they can still exchange for store credit if the customer service employee will do it. Is BB that far away, what do you have to lose if your Prime is that bad?
I already tried to take my gamestop prime to best buy. I failed big time. I talked to the manager too. Plain and simple, they will not take it without being able to find the transaction in their system. I regret buying it from gamestop and I will never step another foot in their stores.
I have called Asus and gamestop a number of times and have gotten no where. I have also pm Gary for a refund. My last resort will be my squaretrade warranty but I doubt Asus will be getting another $500 from me.
Asus has awesome products on paper but their quality and customer support sucks major butt. They haven't come through on anything that was communicated to us on this website except for that stupid dongle.
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Having no receipt no matter where you bought it from may work. My best buy here went into "green screen" or something and determined I didn't have a receipt through them. but others may not be so determining.
Well there ya go depends how lucky you get I guess wont know until you try .. I had the receipt so wasn't an issue .. sorry guys
I'm kinda glad best buy didn't take my gamestop prime back since now I don't have to feel guilty screwing them over due to gamestop and Asus lack of care for their customers. They both have a take the money and run attitude.
I always wondered why people like apple so much even though their products blow and r always behind the 8 ball. It's all about the customer service. My wife has no complaints about her iPad.
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Change of topic. Original topic was a "Can you return the prime in Canada" thread. Since i personally have succeeded, i am now sharing how i did it so you can do it too!
First: Make sure you have all accessories: Charger, cleaning cloth, usb cable, manuals, etc.
Tablet has to be scratch free and in very good condition. Try to clean all the fingerprints as best you can.
If you have the plastic wrapper that goes around it, bonus!
Put tablet in box as if it were brand new. Neatly wrap the cord, make it all look pretty.
Make sure the tablet is charged and reset it so when you turn it on it goes to the default setup thing.
Dont forget to remove your microSD card!
Go to your local bestbuy.
Tell them you got it as a gift
You opened it up and played with it for a few days and decided its not for you
you would like a return please. (Be kind, they are people too!)
Another option is to say "they got the wrong one" when you ask for the refund. If they ask if you want to find the right one say you dont really have time right now, you'd rather the refund and you can come back another time to get the tablet thats right for you.
They will want to inspect it. If you have obvious physical damage, forget it. If you dont have the packaging, forget it. If you give them ANY reason to reject it, forget it. Dont lie but you dont have to give them obvious reasons. "I just dont want it" is true. "I want to return it because the new version came out" Also true but a bad idea.
They will likely ask if you have the recipt. Tell them you dont have a recipt, it was a gift, the person who gave it to you didnt think to keep it. (I said it was from my grandmother who lives in another city, whatever seems plausable)
They will tell you they cant return it for cash but can do store credit. You say thats acceptable and try not to smile too big. (Also helps not to agree too fast). I made some comment "thats fine, i can buy something that better suits what i need when i get paid". If they offer to help you find something to buy with the card right away just say you really dont have too long to spend on this, you can come back another day to spend the money.
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Dont forget! when you go to buy the infinity bring a printout of these two pages and get the infinity for $350 instead of $500! It helps to email yourself the links so you can bring them up on your phone too. Bestbuy matches online prices now! (woot!)
http://kexane.com/p/25919/ASUS TF700T-B1-GR 10.1-Inch Tablet (Gray)-%2d%2d-1KO008S4AY0499.html
http://surefireshops.com/p/25914/ASUS TF700T-B1-GR 10.1-Inch Tablet (Gray)-%2d%2d-0O008S4AY0499.html
If i helped you dont forget to thank me! (click the button!)
I wanna know too! Where are you finding these reports?
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In the two "returned my prime" threads, if you read through them theres one or two people saying it didnt work for them and they were in Canada.
I've had success in getting a refund from them ( still awaiting the cheque however).
Feel free to PM me any questions.
145ty said:
I've had success in getting a refund from them ( still awaiting the cheque however).
Feel free to PM me any questions.
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'Them' being Best Buy?
No, ASUS directly.
I don't think anyone is going to have luck until the actual release date (August 17th). Before then there is really no point to try an exchange.
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No, ASUS directly.
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How the heck did you manage that? Who do i contact!
I live in Alberta and I have tried numerous time to return my prime for an infinity at different location. All locations were ready to send it to Asus for repair and they don't really care about the manufacturers warranty, they just want to send it to Asus to take care of it.
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Sent mine for RMA. Got cheque 3 weeks later. Bought another Prime. End of story. From Ontario.
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Moonshot1968 said:
Sent mine for RMA. Got cheque 3 weeks later. Bought another Prime. End of story. From Ontario.
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I know its sort of beside the point but what issue did you have to RMA it in for? how did they determine it was better to give you money than try to fix it?
pileot said:
I know its sort of beside the point but what issue did you have to RMA it in for? how did they determine it was better to give you money than try to fix it?
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I'd definitely like to know this too!! I've had mine since January- bought it from Staples. I had problems within the first month, but they just told me I had to go through Asus (even though they told me I had 30 days to return when I purchased it!!). I haven't RMA'd after reading all the horror stories on the forums, and I keep hoping an impending update will fix things (silly I know...). I'm so frustrated with the whole experience, and reading about what is going on now in the US for BB customers is just making it worse! I'd love to hear if there is anything we can do up in Canada...
I RMA'd mine. I'm waiting for the information package and how to send it. It was fine at the beginning but after a few months I started to have screen glitches, flickers. My Wifi is some what weak to none existant where my wife's Ipad does not have a problem. The number of freezes it can have is unbearable.
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Sent mine for RMA. Got cheque 3 weeks later. Bought another Prime. End of story. From Ontario.
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So how did it take in total since you initiated the process? I think I may be fed up enough to do it- I was willing to wait and see what good firmware updates did, but it's been 6 months... I'm moving soon though, so I might have to wait until the fall if the process is too long. The last thing I need right now is for it to get lost in the mail!!
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I RMA'd mine. I'm waiting for the information package and how to send it. It was fine at the beginning but after a few months I started to have screen glitches, flickers. My Wifi is some what weak to none existant where my wife's Ipad does not have a problem. The number of freezes it can have is unbearable.
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Please post when you get the info-- I'm nervous about RMAs, and I'd really like more info on how Asus is handling them up here...
Has anyone heard of RMAs in Canada that have actually improved the Prime (in cases where the original was "fixed" and returned)?
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So how did it take in total since you initiated the process? I think I may be fed up enough to do it- I was willing to wait and see what good firmware updates did, but it's been 6 months... I'm moving soon though, so I might have to wait until the fall if the process is too long. The last thing I need right now is for it to get lost in the mail!!
Please post when you get the info-- I'm nervous about RMAs, and I'd really like more info on how Asus is handling them up here...
Has anyone heard of RMAs in Canada that have actually improved the Prime (in cases where the original was "fixed" and returned)?
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Once my Prime is sent back to me from its RMA I can post my thoughts on any improvements to my tablets overall performance.
I just got my prime back today, after sending it in exactly one month ago, to fix the green camera issue. I had to call them up to escalate the issue last week, because it was taking so long.
Anyway, they returned it good as new. They also replaced the cracked back panel, which was nice.
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Returned my prime to best buy with no receipt. Just said it was a gift. In Ottawa btw. Got a gift card for the keyboard and the tablet. Proud new owner of an infinity
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When did you purchase your Prime, hydroxide?
hydroxide said:
Returned my prime to best buy with no receipt. Just said it was a gift. In Ottawa btw. Got a gift card for the keyboard and the tablet. Proud new owner of an infinity
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I'm in Ottawa too, and I'll like to try to get an exchange too. Which store did you do yours at? Also, how did you pitch it? Kinda like "I got this as a gift and it's been plagued with problems"?
So i just got back from BB
Walked in, told the guy i got it as a gift, didnt want or need it, wanted to return it
He asked if i had a recipt
i said nope, was a gift from my grandma out of town
he asked if theres any chance i could get the recipt
i said not likely, shes old and forgets things
he said without a recipt they cant return it for cash, tho he could do store credit
i said thats awesome, i was thinking about getting a laptop anyways
processed the return, turned it on to make sure its going strong, checked i had the accessories, all was well. Got me a gift card for when the store has 700's in stock. woot!