With both my Evo 4G ad the 3D, for the last 8 months or so (since roughly September 2010), I've been getting a maximum of 400 kbps down over 3G in the Philadelphia area (though it's usually between 50 and 100 down). This is AFTER zeroing out the data proxies Sprint switched to when everything when to pot.
At home, I'm within 2 miles LOS of a tower and still connect at such low speeds (often, the upload is higher than the down, which is odd), whereas I was able to hit Mbps or more over 3G last summer. I've chalked this up somewhat to Sprint's new customers/power users, such as myself, around here, but with the claims of .5 Mbps speeds after applying the ##DATA# fix with some folks, I'm left to wonder:
1) Does anyone else in the Philly area have faster 3G speed?And have you noticed a change after applying the above fix?
I dont live in your area but I have noticed the same problem.
##data# edit mode then go to evdo. Then make sure preferred mode is set to automatic and not cdma only. This should fix ur problem. Oh and make sure u have your msl for edit mode
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I just thought I would share my results, roam control works great with this photon in Chicago. I used to have an epic and roam control didn't work here in Chicago, but it does with the photon. For those of u that don't know what roam control is, its an app that lets u force your phone into roaming. For instance at work, I have 1 bar. when I use the roam control app and set my phone to roam I get full service. But be advised too Much roaming willget u kicked off your contract. Also u need to be rooted to use the app.
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Can u force 3g using this on roam?, there is a way but a little lengthy
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I use Roam control quite a bit and was glad ti was updated to work with the Photon. When I'm roaming on Verizon the PRL determines if it will allow you to utilize 3G or 1X data. I changed mine to 1115 which is a business PRL that allows full 3G data when roaming on VZ. In fact the speeds surpass Sprints 3G in most areas.
how do you change prl? nvm did a search for it, and found it
piaa_nissan said:
I use Roam control quite a bit and was glad ti was updated to work with the Photon. When I'm roaming on Verizon the PRL determines if it will allow you to utilize 3G or 1X data. I changed mine to 1115 which is a business PRL that allows full 3G data when roaming on VZ. In fact the speeds surpass Sprints 3G in most areas.
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Yeah i noticed the second i roam over onto verizon, the speeds blow out sprints...Although the ability to just roam at will comes in handy when im on the phone and im entering my apartment. I have no sprint coverage, i use an air rave. So before i step inside and lose my call i roam over with roam control, and bam my call doesn't drop! Definitely a rooted phones best friend!!!
Harry_Spade said:
how do you change prl? nvm did a search for it, and found it
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Trust me its definitely worth the purchase. Also changing the prl is also very handy...just try not to roam to much, sprint can terminate your contract for roaming to much...
I've noticed mine kicks out of Vz in less than a minute, and the icon looses the triangle. When I go check the phones settings, whether I have it set to "CDMA Only" or to "Automatic", it always gets kicked back to "Sprint Only". I am on the latest update, and am rooted again.
Is anyone else having this problem, or is this an old problem you have solved already?
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Can u force 3g using this on roam?, there is a way but a little lengthy
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All roaming is done on 3G. Sprint's and Verizon's 4G networks are incompatible (LTE and WiMax).
In Chicago we roam on US Cellular, not VZW, and I only get 1x.
MultiDev said:
All roaming is done on 3G. Sprint's and Verizon's 4G networks are incompatible (LTE and WiMax).
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I have been using the 11115 PRL and works great for voice in areas I never could get reception, but I can hardly get any data out of it, yet alone 3g. I don't think I have ever gotten 3G data with it and 3g is available in Southern IN on verizon website. I don't lock on roam either. Any thoughts? I am rooted with 1.4 Hboot and use roam control when needed.
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Jason
Hey guys. I have a HTC Titan II and started using it yesterday. I placed the sim card I had from my previous phone (xperia play r800a), and noticed that it shows I have a 4G connection. However, as soon as I open up the browser nothing happens. Says there is something wrong with my data connection. I took the card out and placed it back in my xperia play. Internet seemed fine.
Then I read that it may have to do with my sim not being a 4G LTE sim; so I went to the ATT store this morning and got a new sim. I asked if it was a 4G LTE sim, and the girl informed me that all newer sims are 4G LTE sims. I took the new sim and placed it in the T2. Still nothing.
So I am unsure as to what the issue is. I have a cheap unlimited ATT data plan that has been working like a champ for the last couple of years. I figured that at the very least, I would get 3G speeds on the T2 since I am not on a 4G plan.
Any advice? Thanks!!
You have to have your data plan updated to the LTE plan (you get to keep what ever data cap you have today, unlimited or else). You can do it by calling customer service or in AT&T stores. Otherwise, it will not work. The LTE connection uses pta APN which requires LTE data plan on your account.
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You have to have your data plan updated to the LTE plan (you get to keep what ever data cap you have today, unlimited or else). You can do it by calling customer service or in AT&T stores. Otherwise, it will not work. The LTE connection uses pta APN which requires LTE data plan on your account.
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Thanks for the info. I am currently paying $30 for unlimited data (non-smartphone) with texting. I am assuming when switching over to LTE that I'll be responsible for paying some sort of premium because I'm guessing they don't have non-smartphone LTE plans.
I managed to get data to work by editing the APN info on the phone. It works, but I do not think it's running at LTE speeds or even 4G (even though it says 4G at the top of my phone).
krillin said:
Thanks for the info. I am currently paying $30 for unlimited data (non-smartphone) with texting. I am assuming when switching over to LTE that I'll be responsible for paying some sort of premium because I'm guessing they don't have non-smartphone LTE plans.
I managed to get data to work by editing the APN info on the phone. It works, but I do not think it's running at LTE speeds or even 4G (even though it says 4G at the top of my phone).
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What APN did you enter? Just do following to get 4G speeds:
1) Add APN
2) wap.cingular
3) Reboot or wait 3-4 mins
I just switch to LTE APN. It is fast, but from what I'm reading online, I've set myself up for tighter AT&T controls around tethering, throttling etc. But, I can confirm that it is backwards compatible.
sumeet909 said:
What APN did you enter? Just do following to get 4G speeds:
1) Add APN
2) wap.cingular
3) Reboot or wait 3-4 mins
I just switch to LTE APN. It is fast, but from what I'm reading online, I've set myself up for tighter AT&T controls around tethering, throttling etc. But, I can confirm that it is backwards compatible.
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I went to the connection settings, pressed on "ADD APN". For the name, I entered, "AT&T HSPA+". That's it, and internet works. It says 4G at the very top of my phone, but not LTE. I assumed this was normal. Would entering wap.cingular be faster?
Thanks!
I think AT&T HSPA+ is supposed to be quicker than wap.cingular
I read it some place a few minutes ago but I lost the page. Someone ran a test and speedtest.net had higher speeds and lower pings.
You will need the pta APN to get LTE connection. You will need Phone APN to get real HSPA+ speed (if you want anything over 6mbps). Otherwise, wap.cingular gives you 3G speed (which all new AT&T phones will show it as 4G, lame).
Both pta and Phone APN requires specific data plan codes on your account (If you have LTE data plan, you can use both pta and Phone APNs but HSPA+/4G data plan can only use Phone APN).
AT&T did so exactly to prevent customers like you who have an old non-smartphone data plan to take advantage of its new high speed data network without paying for it.
In most places, HSPA+ speed is not much quicker than 3G/wap.Cingular beause AT&T's HSPA+ network is over congested. However, LTE is on a separate network and the data speeds are significantly faster than HSPA+.
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AT&T did so exactly to prevent customers like you...who take advantage of its new high speed data network without paying for it.
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Geez...tell me how you truly feel.
JK! Thanks for clearing that up.
LoL, nice editing. NBC should hire you
Now you have to decide whether to save $$ but use slower 3G data or pay up to trade for higher speed. You won't get to keep the unlimited because your current plan is not qualified smartphone plan. So, basically you are looking at $30 for 3GB + $20 for unlimited text.
Need a SIM card
I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
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I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
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Both are required. But if your existing SIM is new enough it should support LTE without problem (there was a specific SIM card ID range to support LTE).
BTW, if your phone is connecting on LTE, it will show LTE instead of 4G on the notification bar.
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I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
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for whatever reason, I read somewhere around here that that particular SIM made your "smartphone exclusion" hold-up against most recent phones. So, you gave that benefit away - don't worry if you don't know much about it.
wap.cingular gave me data thanks! But I am a little confused is it 3g or HSPA+? I don't need to change my data plan for LTE (since it isn't in Seattle yet) but I want to change it if I am not getting HSPA+
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wap.cingular gave me data thanks! But I am a little confused is it 3g or HSPA+? I don't need to change my data plan for LTE (since it isn't in Seattle yet) but I want to change it if I am not getting HSPA+
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HSPA+ in WP7 gets represented with an "H" or "4G"
3G gets represent with a regular "3G"
LTE with "LTE"
Most likely you are under HSPA+ ... Do a Speed Test with an app like "Bandwidth" to see where you max out and that should give you an idea if its 3G or H
Tachi91 said:
HSPA+ in WP7 gets represented with an "H" or "4G"
3G gets represent with a regular "3G"
LTE with "LTE"
Most likely you are under HSPA+ ... Do a Speed Test with an app like "Bandwidth" to see where you max out and that should give you an idea if its 3G or H
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it says 4g and I get about 3mbs I am assuming its HSPA+ thanks for clarifying!
All AT&T new phones, including iPhone with iOS5 update, will say 4G even if it is on 3G. It really doesn't matter much. 3G and HSPA+ in most places are same speed. You only need to worry about it if you want LTE. If you don't have LTE, leave it alone.
I have put both APNs mentioned and that seems to work for a little while, but eventually the data cuts out again.
Is this an issue similar to what is happening with the Lumina 900? Is this a Microsoft problem or AT&T? And is anyone else still having issues after updating the apn like I am?
try APNhone
Name:whatever
it works for me.
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try APNhone
Name:whatever
it works for me.
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does nothing for mine. i've tried it already.
Your data plan limits you to wap.cingular APN only. Nothing else will work for you.
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Your data plan limits you to wap.cingular APN only. Nothing else will work for you.
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Since my MMS and tethering no longer work with this phone, it looks as if I may have to switch out my plan(s) and fork over $70 ($50 data+$20 text). IMHO, a bit of a rip off...OR I can just go back to my xplay and everything will work as it was...but where is the fun in that?
I'm at my wits end and am hoping someone could have an answer for my problem. My home's in the L.A./O.C. area and the local towers were recently upgraded. This has made my phone use ERHPD (I believe that the upgrade is only a software overlay) since 4G was not upgraded. Basically I'm in a 3G/1x speed zone. I'm stock 4.4.2 and towel rooted with roam control. If I go out into the street and force roam to Verizon's network, I'll get 4 to 6gb download speed. On Sprints network, I'm stuck on 3G with 0.20 dl speed. When I force to Verizon's network, (goes to 4G) and then switch back to Sprint, my Sprint speed will be on 4g (with 1/2 the dl speed of Verizon). I tested both networks by streaming a movie and no buffering with Verizon and just a little buffering while on Sprint 4g. Once I walk into the house my phone drops to 3g again and 50% of the time will time out when trying to speed test or Google anything. Go out into the street get slow 3g. Force roan to Verizon and back to 4g. Once on Verizon 4g I can turn off roam and Sprint will be at 4g then (but a slower speed than Verizon). This is an improvement over the consumer prl that was on the phone originally. I'm using 2 different corp. prls for sprint which allows me to get the above stated speeds. Consumer prl sucked big time. I'm wondering if flashing a Verizon radio to my N3 would allow me to pick up the 4g signal that Verizon phones are getting good speed with and or change over to a Verizon prl?
Another test/example done today while in the San Bernardino mountains.
Standing next to my neighbor who has Verizon NOTE3 and is getting 4g. Speed test showing 4mb upload. My Sprint Note3 download speed 0.13. Tried it with 2 corp. and 1 stock prl.
Is this a junky radio on SPRINT or do I need to use a custom Verizon PRL to get and maintain 4G on my Sprint Note 3? Could the speed connectivity issue be solved with a radio change? Maybe a Verizon radio?
Any help/direction is greatly appreciated,
I know speed and connectivity are a big issue with Sprint in a lot of areas right now and maybe the answers will be able to help the dozens of people I've seen looking for answers.
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I'm at my wits end and am hoping someone could have an answer for my problem. My home's in the L.A./O.C. area and the local towers were recently upgraded. This has made my phone use ERHPD (I believe that the upgrade is only a software overlay) since 4G was not upgraded. Basically I'm in a 3G/1x speed zone. I'm stock 4.4.2 and towel rooted with roam control. If I go out into the street and force roam to Verizon's network, I'll get 4 to 6gb download speed. On Sprints network, I'm stuck on 3G with 0.20 dl speed. When I force to Verizon's network, (goes to 4G) and then switch back to Sprint, my Sprint speed will be on 4g (with 1/2 the dl speed of Verizon). I tested both networks by streaming a movie and no buffering with Verizon and just a little buffering while on Sprint 4g. Once I walk into the house my phone drops to 3g again and 50% of the time will time out when trying to speed test or Google anything. Go out into the street get slow 3g. Force roan to Verizon and back to 4g. Once on Verizon 4g I can turn off roam and Sprint will be at 4g then (but a slower speed than Verizon). This is an improvement over the consumer prl that was on the phone originally. I'm using 2 different corp. prls for sprint which allows me to get the above stated speeds. Consumer prl sucked big time. I'm wondering if flashing a Verizon radio to my N3 would allow me to pick up the 4g signal that Verizon phones are getting good speed with and or change over to a Verizon prl?
Another test/example done today while in the San Bernardino mountains.
Standing next to my neighbor who has Verizon NOTE3 and is getting 4g. Speed test showing 4mb upload. My Sprint Note3 download speed 0.13. Tried it with 2 corp. and 1 stock prl.
Is this a junky radio on SPRINT or do I need to use a custom Verizon PRL to get and maintain 4G on my Sprint Note 3? Could the speed connectivity issue be solved with a radio change? Maybe a Verizon radio?
Any help/direction is greatly appreciated,
I know speed and connectivity are a big issue with Sprint in a lot of areas right now and maybe the answers will be able to help the dozens of people I've seen looking for answers.
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You could try and change the radio to Verizon, but I think that would conflict with the Sprint version of the OS you have in the device. Then what happens when you are in an area that the roles are reversed, and Sprint has the dominant tower ? Do you have a different internet connection in the house that you can pull WiFi from ? A friend of mine had a similar problem the house was a dead zone. So she complained to Sprint and they gave her a router that produces a WiFi signal for internet and provides a signal for phone calls for her old Sprint EVO 4G. This way she never has to manually have to switch her device connections when leaving home for work. Don't know if this will help in your case, but might be worth a try.
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You could try and change the radio to Verizon, but I think that would conflict with the Sprint version of the OS you have in the device. Then what happens when you are in an area that the roles are reversed, and Sprint has the dominant tower ? Do you have a different internet connection in the house that you can pull WiFi from ? A friend of mine had a similar problem the house was a dead zone. So she complained to Sprint and they gave her a router that produces a WiFi signal for internet and provides a signal for phone calls for her old Sprint EVO 4G. This way she never has to manually have to switch her device connections when leaving home for work. Don't know if this will help in your case, but might be worth a try.
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Sprint gave me an Air Wave which I use at my work since it's in a dead zone also and I need cell signal to do my job.
Because I have one already, Sprint won't give me another one for use at my house. There's no internet or wifi at the mountain cabin. Only signal available there is cell if you're on the right provider. Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking of flashing to a Verizon radio when I go to the mountains and re-flash it back to Sprint after I return. I'd have to do this every weekend and am not sure if it would get me kicked off of Sprint for roaming to much on Verizon. I'm also unsure if flashing the radio would actually give me good Verizon signals, and unsure if Sprint could be able to tell if I was using a different radio.
Update,
After researching some more I tried going to airplane mode for 30 seconds and back. This has my phone connecting to 4g when outside the house. Once I walk inside the signal fades and it goes to 3g in the house. Not needing to roam on Verizon to make it go into 4g. 3g data is only .03mb in the house when I can get the speed test to connect. Still no useable data speed in the mountains.