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Hi Guys and Girls,
First of all I apologize for starting a new thread about this, I have put a search in both on Google and XDA and there is one possible solution I just need some clarification being a noobie!
I purchased Co Pilot 8 quite a while back when I was on stock rom but have since tried several different roms each time reinstalling my co pilot. After each install I obviously have had to reactivate it, last week after trying yet another rom my Co Pilot wouldn't activate. I contacted Co Pilot support and after several emails the outcome was that I had activated/de-activated several times and had reached my limit. They have allowed me to activate one last time(their words) but I know I'm not going to stick with the same rom so unless there is a way around this my purchase appears useless, especially as I have bought text to speech and live services as well!
During my search I came across a possible solution to back up your activation key which is licp8 in the windows directory. As I only have one activation left I need to get this right so if someone could clarify this for me I would be most grateful. What I need to know is if I now re-activate Co Pilot and then back up the above file (licp8) to my storage card, when I put a new rom on my phone if I then copy my backed up activation code from my storage card back to the windows directory, does this mean my Co Pilot will be activated without having to do so over the internet as this will obviously register with ALK Technologies?
Does that make sense,(no pun intended).
Sorry about the long winded explanation.
Thank you for any help
No offers?? Ah well I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet the next time I load a new rom.
can you not install copilot on the sd card so you won't have to activate every time you flash?
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can you not install copilot on the sd card so you won't have to activate every time you flash?
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That kind of works, but only in the sense that you don't have to type all of the ridiculous long numbers for activatio again. It will remember all of your keys and your email/account settings.
I don't know how often I have re-activated, probably about 20 times, haven't had a problem since. But if you have a valid license and it has always been on the same phone (as in you didn't share the code) then how can they justify not re-activating the product. I like CoPilot, but if they try a stunt like that I will never buy it again.
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That kind of works, but only in the sense that you don't have to type all of the ridiculous long numbers for activatio again. It will remember all of your keys and your email/account settings.
I don't know how often I have re-activated, probably about 20 times, haven't had a problem since. But if you have a valid license and it has always been on the same phone (as in you didn't share the code) then how can they justify not re-activating the product. I like CoPilot, but if they try a stunt like that I will never buy it again.
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Thanks to both of you for the reply.
I do install it to my SD card and like smackmac says that only partly works.
@smackmac
I have probably activated less than you so I don't understand that one?
In one of the emails they sent me, they have limited activation to protect against software piracy, I can understand that so I asked them why don't they link the software to the IMEI number but they said they can't do that. The software is fully legal and I have only ever had it installed on my current phone,(HD2). I did give them an in depth explanation of the reason why I had activated/deactivated but I got the impression they didnt believe me, I even had to scan my email receipt and send as an attachment as proof of purchase. Like I said I will try that possible solution in my original post the next time I put a new Rom on the phone and ill update the post to let everyone know whether it worked or not.
Thanks again for your response.
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Please let us know how your test goes eddyedwards007.
I just learned from CoPilot Support/ALK Technologies today, that I have also reached this "activation limit", that I was totally unaware of. I would warn anyone considering CoPilot not to buy if they ROM flash often. Or even if the hard reset often. Or even if they just think they'll have to reinstall the software often.
After I contacted CoPilot Tech Support/ALK Technologies about receiving an "error 1027" when trying to activate the product after a recent ROM Update, I got the following response:
Dear Darnell,
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Unfortunately the reason why you are receiving error 1027 and why you are no longer able to continue activating CoPilot is our Activation server has seen that you have reached the maximum permitted activation limit for a product.
Looking at your product key code you have activated 24 times.
Unfortunately there is nothing further I can do to unlock your Product Key Code to allow for further activations as this falls under excessive uses of activation.
You can resolve this by purchasing a new version of CoPilot but if you continue to activate to the same level that you have already been doing then your new key will also be locked out after a period of time when you reach the maximum limit.
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So basically, they have my money and I have no CoPilot.
I have never had an issue of this sort with any other product on my HD2. I guess the magic number for me was 24. I had no idea reinstalling to the same device multiple times was an issue for them. This is an issue anyone considering CoPilot needs to be made aware of. Ticks me off when we who follow the rules and pay the money are treated like the bad guy . For crying out loud, we paying customers are the ones that DO keep them in business! Trying to use the product honestly now has me locked out.
So I fired off a response to the support ticket with a complaint of how I dislike them having my money while they fail to offer me service. My issue has now been fowarded to "Senior Technicians" and they are supposed to be getting back with me soon.
If they ever grant me activation again, I'm going STRAIGHT TO THE ANDROID VERSION. The Android version does not have to be reactivated as often, since when upgrading Android ports all the information is saved and comes right back through using the old data.img file or a utility like Titanium Backup. HD2 owners using an Android port have confirmed this for me. (See here and here.)
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So I fired off a response to the support ticket with a complaint of how I dislike them having my money while they fail to offer me service. My issue has now been fowarded to "Senior Technicians" and they are supposed to be getting back with me soon.
If they ever grant me activation again, I'm going STRAIGHT TO THE ANDROID VERSION. The Android version does not have to be reactivated as often, since when upgrading Android ports all the information is saved and comes right back through using the old data.img file or a utility like Titanium Backup. HD2 owners using an Android port have confirmed this for me. (See here and here.)
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Hi Darnell,
Interesting post, I more or less got the same response, basically you are not going to be allowed to activate a product you paid for because they think you are making pirate copies. I have just downloaded the latest version of the rom I use and I will be taking the plunge tomorrow(19/11/10)
I sent a PM to Appelflap, who originally offered the solution, asking could he/she confirm it works and this is the response I got, [That's right. If you backup licp8.dat and copy it back to windows directory before copilot is started for the first time on the new rom, it will start as a activated copy.]
I hope Appelflap doesn't mind me posting the quote that was sent to me via PM.
So I hope it works otherwise I'll be left with a deactivated copy of Co-Pilot I'll let you know.
By the way I hope they grant you another activation, good luck.
Regards
Eddy
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Hi All,
Just to update what happened.
I have installed and updated my rom and did exactly as Appelflap suggested and .................................wait for it..............it worked!
So just to recap, if you have like myself, purchased co pilot and flashed numerous roms, you will eventually reach an activation limit and ALK Technologies won't allow you to keep activating indefinitely.
So if you go into the windows directory, copy licp8.dat to your storage card, and then after you have reinstalled co pilot, copy the licp8.dat file back into the windows directory BEFORE you open co pilot, that is important! This worked 100% for me and also my text to speech and live services I purchased are also working.
I take no credit for this, all the thanks and appreciation go to Appelflap
I hope this can be of benefit to other members of the community, and lets hope no-one from ALK Technologies reads the forums and comes up with a fix!
Regards
Eddy
Yesterday, I got this message from ALK Tech.
Dear Darnell,
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Please try activating your CoPilot again with the same product key.
Please be advised that it is imperative, before you upgrade or change the rom or the device, that you deactivate your licenses yourself in the future in:
Menu --> Settings --> Licencing --> DEACTIVATE
If you have any further questions, or feel that this incident has not been resolved to your satisfaction, please do not hesitate to bring this to our attention.
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I was able to reactivate CoPilot Maps. But I am still unable to activate the Premium Live Services/Live Traffic that I also paid for. So I've asked them to assist me with activating that also.
A couple of things that may help
I've yet to hit limit and I think it is for the following:
I use XDA_UC (Energy version) to install the Laurentius26 CAB and also to copy licp8 (contains your license key and saves typing out on the ABCDE keyboard) over to windows which avoids the need to reactivate the license. Then CP8 when run does do not go thru the activation loop.
Clearly for this to work you need a purchased license. I've have changed ROM's several dozen times without issue using this method. I hope this helps.
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Yesterday, I got this message from ALK Tech.
I was able to reactivate CoPilot Maps. But I am still unable to activate the Premium Live Services/Live Traffic that I also paid for. So I've asked them to assist me with activating that also.
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I was able to successfully activate Premium Live Services/Live Traffic tonight. I think I was mistakenly using my old password when trying to activate that one. Since the old password was likely stored, but I had changed the PW when trying to initially figure out why I could not activate.
I sure hope more CoPilot owners see this thread before they run into any issues.
might sound simple but wont a backup or system image saved to your sd card restore your setting/co-pilot etc? ive done this with my phone a handful of timeswhen updating roms, never with anything fully registered but demo versions of apps and sofware ive installed are still within the preview time limit.
this way you can restore your prefered rom with your copilot and settings without having to activate it time and time again. may be totally wrong as ive never used co pilot but unless anyone says otherwise its gotta be worth a try?
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might sound simple but wont a backup or system image saved to your sd card restore your setting/co-pilot etc? ive done this with my phone a handful of timeswhen updating roms, never with anything fully registered but demo versions of apps and sofware ive installed are still within the preview time limit.
this way you can restore your prefered rom with your copilot and settings without having to activate it time and time again. may be totally wrong as ive never used co pilot but unless anyone says otherwise its gotta be worth a try?
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Not usually good practice to restore a backup from an old ROM to a new one. It's usually best to only save and copy over just the nessesary files. Such as the one already mentioned.
To restore the full system image would also introduce any potential bugs that might have been in the old ROM's system files.
But we're trying to maintain what we paid for, not extending a trial.
Sorry if this has already been covered, but the only thread I could find on point was in the archive.
I recently bought a Photon for Sprint on ebay with the idea of reselling it. The phone was running 2.35 and I used Photon-torpedo to root it, which worked just fine. Today, on a whim, I popped my sim chip from my AT&T Atrix 4g into it, to see if it would work. It did. And, with a little bit of tweaking of the settings, I was able to get 4g data to run. (I set Network Mode to "Automatic", and enabled the checkbox to Allow GSM was all). Then, to take it further, I was able to start Mobile Hotspot, which I'd had to "disable" the device check on line 118 in my Atrix to get to do the same thing.
So, my question is a little noobish: Is my Photon carrier unlocked somehow, perhaps by Photon-Torpedo? Am I going to get slammed by AT&T for some sort of bizarre roaming charge? Anyone know why this worked?
nice, what baseband does it have and does it say unlock when you first boot up phone?
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I don't think its unlocked as it doesn't say unlocked when it boots up and behaves like it still thinks its a Sprint phone. Google Play store also treats it as a Sprint phone. The baseband is n_01.29.08_GSM
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I don't think its unlocked as it doesn't say unlocked when it boots up and behaves like it still thinks its a Sprint phone. Google Play store also treats it as a Sprint phone. The baseband is n_01.29.08_GSM
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you say it works just fine on the AT&T network? interesting. are you outside of the US? that's the only way it would work out of the box like that. i would like to hear more about this!
No, I am not outside the US. I am in Seattle, and we have nost of the big carriers here, (Sprint, Verizon, AT&T), so it is as much a surprise to me as to you.
I've been using this phone for about 3 days now on AT&T, and it's been working as well as my Atrix 4g by all appearances.
If there's any info I can provide let me know. I'd love to figure this out.
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No, I am not outside the US. I am in Seattle, and we have nost of the big carriers here, (Sprint, Verizon, AT&T), so it is as much a surprise to me as to you.
I've been using this phone for about 3 days now on AT&T, and it's been working as well as my Atrix 4g by all appearances.
If there's any info I can provide let me know. I'd love to figure this out.
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i'm 2 hours away from you haha. small world. well your baseband is very unusual! so i think you may have a special phone on your hands that some devs would love to have. i do have a couple questions. where did the phone come from? someone inside the US? if it came from another non-US carrier it would make sense. as a japanese version known as KDDI has the same phone but unlocked GSM for the US. perhaps you can pull me the build.prop file from the system folder and post on here as a zip or text file. (otherwise xda won't allow the upload) then we can see just a little more info on the device and what carrier it might have come from originally.
you're baseband is unique. photons latest baseband is n_01.28.07r. previous ones have been N_01.28.0Xs.fk, X=random character
This phone was a eBay purchase and sent from Fort Lauderdale Florida. It was listed as a Sprint phone, and the only information that was in the ebay listing was that she had changed carriers after having it for 6 months and had to get another phone. I will post the build prop late tonight when I have more time.
JohnH4 said:
This phone was a eBay purchase and sent from Fort Lauderdale Florida. It was listed as a Sprint phone, and the only information that was in the ebay listing was that she had changed carriers after having it for 6 months and had to get another phone. I will post the build prop late tonight when I have more time.
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awesome. i'm excited to see this. the magical photon!
As requested, here is the build.prop attached as a zip file. Let me know what you find. And let me know if you need anything else.
JohnH4 said:
As requested, here is the build.prop attached as a zip file. Let me know what you find. And let me know if you need anything else.
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you my friend have one very unique photon. you have a unique baseband and build of the OS. i have never seen either of them. i posted in another forum asking others about this. you might have the missing key people have been looking for in terms of GSM unlocking. i wanna know who had this phone and if maybe it's a leaked OS on the phone or something else that's going on? do you know if the CDMA side of the phone works at all? even just making a call whether a line is connected or not?
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i wouldn't mind getting a nandroid backup of this if you could possibly do that? using bootstrap, a real recovery, or even this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samcripp.romff (i think this would do the job if you don't have bootstrap or a real custom recovery)
i would thank you a lot for it! you could upload it to dropbox or something if that's possible?
Okay. Let me research how to do a nandroid backup. As soon as I have it figured out, I will post it.
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Okay. Let me research how to do a nandroid backup. As soon as I have it figured out, I will post it.
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you can use bootstrap here,
http://files.acsyndicate.net/pub/users/Steve/MOTODX2_Bootstrap_signed.apk
or you can use the one listed in the previous post. or you can unlock and install a custom recovery. however i'd be careful with unlocking because flashing the wrong thing can put your phone back to a standard photon with locked GSM making it somewhat unusable for GSM again. so i wouldn't recommend an unlock at this time.
top tip: don't flash an SBF file whatever you do!
installing and using bootstrap:
Installation:
Download the recovery file
Mount your device to USB
Put the .apk on your device
Unplug your device
Navigate to the file explorer, install “Bootstrap_signed.apk”
When the installation completes, run the application
Click “Install Recovery”
Accept the Superuser request
Click “Install Recovery” again for good measure
After success, plug your Photon 4G into the wall adapter
Verify that your phone is charging from the wall
Press “Recovery Mode”
Your device will now slowly reboot into Tenfar’s CWM Recovery
*note: you do need to have your phone plugged in to get into "recovery" mode.
then do a backup
Magical Photon
na7q said:
you my friend have one very unique photon. you have a unique baseband and build of the OS. i have never seen either of them. i posted in another forum asking others about this. you might have the missing key people have been looking for in terms of GSM unlocking. i wanna know who had this phone and if maybe it's a leaked OS on the phone or something else that's going on? do you know if the CDMA side of the phone works at all? even just making a call whether a line is connected or not?
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i wouldn't mind getting a nandroid backup of this if you could possibly do that? using bootstrap, a real recovery, or even this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samcripp.romff (i think this would do the job if you don't have bootstrap or a real custom recovery)
i would thank you a lot for it! you could upload it to dropbox or something if that's possible?
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Good News! I have uploaded a backup of the Magical Photon to Dropbox that was taken using the link you provided above. I thought it was better to take that route rather than risk making a stupid mistake while unlocking the bootloader or when flashing the device. Why take chances when you don't have to? PM me with an email address so I can invite you to share the folder. And let me know if you need anything else.
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Good News! I have uploaded a backup of the Magical Photon to Dropbox that was taken using the link you provided above. I thought it was better to take that route rather than risk making a stupid mistake while unlocking the bootloader or when flashing the device. Why take chances when you don't have to? PM me with an email address so I can invite you to share the folder. And let me know if you need anything else.
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Any more news with the magical photon?? Is there a way to create an SBF file to flash to other photons??
jmsdahutt said:
Any more news with the magical photon?? Is there a way to create an SBF file to flash to other photons??
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The last I heard about that was in halfevildruids thread. Na7q posted a CWM flashable zip based on the magical photon. You can find the post here
As far as I know, this hasn't worked for any other phone, (the Magical Photon seems to be completely unique). I think halfevildruid also opined that there could be a binary switch in the magical photon that might be found, but as far as I know nobody is working on it.
What would be really nice to have is the Magical Photon's radio. Unfortunately, its not that easy to get. The plan is to extract it when a new OTA update comes out. But unless a new method surfaces to extract the radio, we'll have to wait for that.
In the meantime, I'm keeping the Magical Photon as close to "pure to stock" as I can to give the devs here the best material to work with if it's ever needed.
Hope that answers your questions.
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The plan is to extract it when a new OTA update comes out.
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The ota would need to be GSM capable to have what we are looking for.
If you guys get me the stock locked and the magical one's nv dump I will start going through it. I have the 2.3.5 leak and kddi dumps again. If its in the nvm I will find it if I can get hold of that phone. If not I can scan for differences between the two nvf's. I am busy opening a wireless repair shop to open in 2 weeks so I am not doing a lot until that is open.
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If its in the nvm I will find it if I can get hold of that phone.
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$100 towards getting you that phone
or
$200 and I'm done deving/hosting this year
or
trade+$ (if JohnH4 will go for it) and you walk me through the nv dump (until we get 2.3.5 unlock this will kill both my atrix and photon deving til that time)
I'll match your 100 or offer up a shiny white 1 month new white HTC vivid straight across if john is interested in an at&t phone. No ones got a chance of getting their paws on my one x though.
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If you guys get me the stock locked and the magical one's nv dump I will start going through it. I have the 2.3.5 leak and kddi dumps again. If its in the nvm I will find it if I can get hold of that phone. If not I can scan for differences between the two nvf's. I am busy opening a wireless repair shop to open in 2 weeks so I am not doing a lot until that is open.
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If anyone can tell me the location of the nvm file, I would be glad to pull it. Will the pull command in adb do the trick?
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I was wondering is anyone has tried to flash the kdz for the AS985 on the VS985 since they are virually the same phone just the AS985 doesn't have the verizon bloat and has the fm radio enabled
The AS model is for ACG (associated carrier group) which is a US CDMA cellular group with cellcom listed as the primary cellphone company which uses verizon towers so the radios are the same. it is the same phone just without the verizon bloat.
Can anyone send me the KDZ for this phone?
Bump
Bump bump..
Come on guys I'm onto something.. We will have firmware without verizon meddling with it and an fm radio
Flash it and see if you brick.
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Flash it and see if you brick.
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I dont have the firmware to flash
Find it and flash it.... You might have to flash our boot.IMG for it to boot though not a pro!!!!
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Find it and flash it.... You might have to flash our boot.IMG for it to boot though not a pro!!!!
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I'm trying to find it and when I do I will flash it and if all goes well it can be a break through for getting the legit non verizon modified version of android for our phones
assuming the vs985 has the radio chip and it's just not enabled, all that would really be necessary is to figure out the change that needs to be made to turn on the radio.
The Bionic (xt875) for instance had a chip that was totally capable of receiving gsm bands, all it took was figuring out some firmware radio edits to enable it, and some APN changes. After that you could pop in a tmobile sim card and be up and running on tmobile instead of verizon. This may be a similar situation. Flashing the entire rom sounds dangerous, but you may be able to pull and flash just the bits you need to get the radio to work.
Step one would be determining that there is even an fm radio in the to enable. Haven't foudn much for teardowns of this device, but if you find one take a close look at all the chips and look them up.
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assuming the vs985 has the radio chip and it's just not enabled, all that would really be necessary is to figure out the change that needs to be made to turn on the radio.
The Bionic (xt875) for instance had a chip that was totally capable of receiving gsm bands, all it took was figuring out some firmware radio edits to enable it, and some APN changes. After that you could pop in a tmobile sim card and be up and running on tmobile instead of verizon. This may be a similar situation. Flashing the entire rom sounds dangerous, but you may be able to pull and flash just the bits you need to get the radio to work.
Step one would be determining that there is even an fm radio in the to enable. Haven't foudn much for teardowns of this device, but if you find one take a close look at all the chips and look them up.
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This has nothing to do with gsm.. Our VS985 is already gsm enabled. I know this because I had a Net10 AT&T SIM in my phone and it worked just fine but then I switched to Net10 Verizon because AT&T has terrible service. Anyways all smarphones have an fm radio chip in them it's just the carriers except sprint disable them. That way you have to use your data to listen to music which runs your data down fast causeing overages and more money going to the carriers.
I'm trying to make it so we have more freedom when it comes to OUR devices
There is an fm radio chip on the Verizon phone. Debate if actually powered or antenna is connected. No one's managed to turn it on yet, and it's been looked at by a couple of developers. Firmware might be needed - the right firmware and configuration files could be present, but I don't know for sure how similar the two phones are. If the partitions are different, for example, the kdz will almost certainly fry your phone. I do believe the devs can extract from a kdz and take a look though. Or an image dump.
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This has nothing to do with gsm..
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I know that.
It was an example of an instance (hence the words "for instance")where a disabled function was re-enabled.
This was done by using the leaked motorola radiocomm tools to edit a single 16 digit item in the NV of the radio firmware, which was later refined down to a simple flashable zip file
I'm trying to help you, don't be daft.
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There is an fm radio chip on the Verizon phone. Debate if actually powered or antenna is connected. No one's managed to turn it on yet, and it's been looked at by a couple of developers. Firmware might be needed - the right firmware and configuration files could be present, but I don't know for sure how similar the two phones are. If the partitions are different, for example, the kdz will almost certainly fry your phone. I do believe the devs can extract from a kdz and take a look though. Or an image dump.
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yeah, apparently this territory has been covered already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/fm-radio-vs985-t2977483
I'm never rooting for someone to brick their phone......but maybe sometimes it's the best thing that could happen. So by all means if you can even get lg flash tool to flash an incorrect kdz on your phone, please do. But make sure you report back so we know how it went.
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I know that.
It was an example of an instance (hence the words "for instance")where a disabled function was re-enabled.
This was done by using the leaked motorola radiocomm tools to edit a single 16 digit item in the NV of the radio firmware, which was later refined down to a simple flashable zip file
I'm trying to help you, don't be daft.
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yeah, apparently this territory has been covered already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/fm-radio-vs985-t2977483
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Ok I get what your saying but without the AS985 firmware we don't have the code to work with plus I am not only trying to get the radio working but also a boot loader that has fastboot included with it. Since verizon didn't modify this variant it should still have the fastboot in the boot loader. In other words this is a unVERIZONfied version of our phone
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There is an fm radio chip on the Verizon phone. Debate if actually powered or antenna is connected. No one's managed to turn it on yet, and it's been looked at by a couple of developers. Firmware might be needed - the right firmware and configuration files could be present, but I don't know for sure how similar the two phones are. If the partitions are different, for example, the kdz will almost certainly fry your phone. I do believe the devs can extract from a kdz and take a look though. Or an image dump.
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Check this out and tell me how similar they are.. http://www.mylgphones.com/lg-g3-vs985-for-verzion-wirelesss-pass-through-the-fcc.html
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Check this out and tell me how similar they are.. http://www.mylgphones.com/lg-g3-vs985-for-verzion-wirelesss-pass-through-the-fcc.html
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That didn't say anything about partition set up, specific radio chips, etc. They may be very similar. If we could get a fastboot that would be great though, plus maybe some if the extra ROM features Verizon removed, Plus maybe the fm radio...
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That didn't say anything about partition set up, specific radio chips, etc. They may be very similar. If we could get a fastboot that would be great though, plus maybe some if the extra ROM features Verizon removed, Plus maybe the fm radio...
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There's only one way to find out and that is to get the kdz.. Some Chinese website has one for what ever reason but I don't know Chinese to sign up and see the download link
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There's only one way to find out and that is to get the kdz.. Some Chinese website has one for what ever reason but I don't know Chinese to sign up and see the download link
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whats the site link?
bweN diorD said:
whats the site link?
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here it is..http://bbs.gaodi.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=667930&extra=page%3D1&mobile=2
macdaddie87 said:
here it is..http://bbs.gaodi.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=667930&extra=page=1&mobile=2
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Says the link to the file is down.
I'll look around more when I get home later.
Hello XDA community
A friend of mine with an android device has been hacked "by a phone call" has he said. The phone number of the believed "attacker" does not exist anymore and seemed to have existed only a few hours. This arose some questions about what I believed. Can some of you tell me what you think about the questions below. If you have some pointers to help me know more about these topics, I would appreciate. If I missed topics on xda forum regarding these questions, please forgive me, and points me to the topic I missed.
1st - Has he really been hacked by a phone call ? In my understanding, as long as you don't activate 3G/4G, your android is just a phone, and thus can just handle duplex audio data. What about exploit targeting the phone application that, with just GSM protocol or payload corruption, can hack your phone ? I thougt this fairly unprobable. Now if 3G/4G is activated, is phone is just a machine on the network, with some ports open, so he is vulnerable. What about exploit that could run over 3G if you accept a call ? Can a vulnerable phone apk enable a hacking of the phone receiving a phone call ?
2nd - How did the attacker procured a phone number without giving its ID papers in france ? Buying a sim card normaly require a valid ID paper like a passport. Is it always the case ? Is it possible to have a mobile phone number without buying a SIM card ?
3rd - Given the recent informations I google on internet, I guess he has been hacked by Stagefright.
As he rooted his device, I would avised him reset to factory device. As a paranoid, I would say this is unsufficient : if his phone is compromised, the attacker could have compromised his recovery too. So I would better say him : flash bootloader if possible, and flash a stock rom then boot into recovery. And after, rune an apk to test if vulnerable to stagefright and a patch to correct.
Than you for your answers
Hi
First I'm sorry that this happened to your friend.
1. In Switzerland, many people was also hacked by a phone call. But he/she only stoled user data (Photos/Music/Videos/etc.) If they had Mobile Data enabled, I don't know.
2. Some country's (like Portugal) hasn't number that are registered with the name of the person. You can simply go to a mobileshop and ask for a SIM-Card and they simply sell it to you (I know it's a really bad thing )
Good luck to your friend restore his phone
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Hi
First I'm sorry that this happened to your friend.
1. In Switzerland, many people was also hacked by a phone call. But he/she only stoled user data (Photos/Music/Videos/etc.) If they had Mobile Data enabled, I don't know.
2. Some country's (like Portugal) hasn't number that are registered with the name of the person. You can simply go to a mobileshop and ask for a SIM-Card and they simply sell it to you (I know it's a really bad thing )
Good luck to your friend restore his phone
Thank me, by hitting the Thanks Button
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Hello AnDrOiiiD_YT
Can you communicate some sources about the hacking of people via phone call in switzerland (like neswpaper article, tech article ?)
Thank you
AnDrOiiiD_YT said:
Hi
First I'm sorry that this happened to your friend.
2. Some country's (like Portugal) hasn't number that are registered with the name of the person. You can simply go to a mobileshop and ask for a SIM-Card and they simply sell it to you (I know it's a really bad thing )
Good luck to your friend restore his phone
Thank me, by hitting the Thanks Button
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You can walk into just about any side store km the states and buy a phone and reg it with any name you want. You would be amazed at the names people use for accounts. Some just leave it blank.
zelendel said:
You can walk into just about any side store km the states and buy a phone and reg it with any name you want. You would be amazed at the names people use for accounts. Some just leave it blank.
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This can be the case in US. In France on shall provide an ID card to legally buy a SIM card.
bernie.discale said:
This can be the case in US. In France on shall provide an ID card to legally buy a SIM card.
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Interesting. Im sure you could find away around it if you try hard enough. Which is what he most likely did.
Now When you say someone hacked his phone, how does he know he was hacked? What are the issues that made him think so?
zelendel said:
Interesting. Im sure you could find away around it if you try hard enough. Which is what he most likely did.
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Yes, probably. I saw a video from a tech university with the POC on how to cheaply buy phone numbers to issue SMS campaign, I don't know if this is still applicable.
Now When you say someone hacked his phone, how does he know he was hacked? What are the issues that made him think so?
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I had a short conversation with him, and he described applications installing alone, sms sent from his phone... Since I still could not get my hands on the device itself, I agree there is still a doubt on that point. He just remembered a strange phone call some weeks ago, but I am not convinced by the phone call that hacked his phone.
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Yes, probably. I saw a video from a tech university with the POC on how to cheaply buy phone numbers to issue SMS campaign, I don't know if this is still applicable.
I had a short conversation with him, and he described applications installing alone, sms sent from his phone... Since I still could not get my hands on the device itself, I agree there is still a doubt on that point. He just remembered a strange phone call some weeks ago, but I am not convinced by the phone call that hacked his phone.
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To be honest I am as well. Things that he is talking about could not have been set up during a phone call. Unless the person gave enough info that the offender could have hacked into the account. This would allow install of apps. I have a feeling it is something else. A logcat will be able to help determine what is the issue but the best bet is a full wipe, flash and some password changes.
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. A logcat will be able to help determine what is the issue but the best bet is a full wipe, flash and some password changes.
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A agree with both
bernie.discale said:
Hello XDA community
A friend of mine with an android device has been hacked "by a phone call" has he said. The phone number of the believed "attacker" does not exist anymore and seemed to have existed only a few hours. This arose some questions about what I believed. Can some of you tell me what you think about the questions below. If you have some pointers to help me know more about these topics, I would appreciate. If I missed topics on xda forum regarding these questions, please forgive me, and points me to the topic I missed.
1st - Has he really been hacked by a phone call ? In my understanding, as long as you don't activate 3G/4G, your android is just a phone, and thus can just handle duplex audio data. What about exploit targeting the phone application that, with just GSM protocol or payload corruption, can hack your phone ? I thougt this fairly unprobable. Now if 3G/4G is activated, is phone is just a machine on the network, with some ports open, so he is vulnerable. What about exploit that could run over 3G if you accept a call ? Can a vulnerable phone apk enable a hacking of the phone receiving a phone call ?
2nd - How did the attacker procured a phone number without giving its ID papers in france ? Buying a sim card normaly require a valid ID paper like a passport. Is it always the case ? Is it possible to have a mobile phone number without buying a SIM card ?
3rd - Given the recent informations I google on internet, I guess he has been hacked by Stagefright.
As he rooted his device, I would avised him reset to factory device. As a paranoid, I would say this is unsufficient : if his phone is compromised, the attacker could have compromised his recovery too. So I would better say him : flash bootloader if possible, and flash a stock rom then boot into recovery. And after, rune an apk to test if vulnerable to stagefright and a patch to correct.
Than you for your answers
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It's not important that the attacker used a real number, he/she could also use something like spoof card.... About your friends problem is he sure that he have got hacked ?
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It's not important that the attacker used a real number, he/she could also use something like spoof card.... About your friends problem is he sure that he have got hacked ?
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No we are not sure ATM. I try to reach him, with no success. What could confirm a hack or not (by lets say stagefright ?)
bernie.discale said:
No we are not sure ATM. I try to reach him, with no success. What could confirm a hack or not (by lets say stagefright ?)
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I don't think there's a way to detect a call stagefright....
Stagefright can't be activated by a call. The phones doesn't access the vulnerable files.
bernie.discale said:
Hello AnDrOiiiD_YT
Can you communicate some sources about the hacking of people via phone call in switzerland (like neswpaper article, tech article ?)
Thank you
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I didn't found anything, but I think your friend had an app (virus) that needed root access, he granted root access and the app removed those files...
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Stagefright can't be activated by a call. The phones doesn't access the vulnerable files.
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I agree. I think the call has nothing to do with the symptoms he observes... I did not took time to POC stagefright at home, but from what I read it can be done silently via MMS. It's one hypothessis. ATM there ar many. Still don't have news from him. I'll just wait now.
Thank you all for your answers.
If he really thinks it's a stagefright then tell him to verify it, there's an app that can do it
sdeepb said:
If he really thinks it's a stagefright then tell him to verify it, there's an app that can do it
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The app can verify if he is vulnerable. Can it verify if he has really been hacked ?
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The app can verify if he is vulnerable. Can it verify if he has really been hacked ?
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Being vulnerable can be a big proof itself that he most probably have been hacked
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Being vulnerable can be a big proof itself that he most probably have been hacked
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In my experience with Nessus or Nexpose, a vulnerability scan cannot be assessed as a POC. Not being vulnerable certainly prove your immnunity, but the opposite is not true.
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In my experience with Nessus or Nexpose, a vulnerability scan cannot be assessed as a POC. Not being vulnerable certainly prove your immnunity, but the opposite is not true.
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I didn't said that being vulnerable surely means he have got hacked..... But he can be considering the symptoms
So I was able to successfully get the DEMO LG Wing I bought off of ebay. (Model LMF101V) Flashed. And despite being told these didn't even have a modem in them, I am able to get 5G with a Tmobile SIM now. *I believe these were originally Verizon demo's, but I am not sure. I am missing storage, which I have seen was a problem with other LG demo models. However it appears the SD card is working, so this is not a huge deal to me. (It registers 8GB instead of 256GB) I know the storage is actually there, because prior to flashing, I was able to access and use it in the demo mode.
I was wondering if anyone could help me get the biometrics working? The hardware is present and the phone does detect a fingerprint reader, but when trying to use it, it never registers any finger prints. *It does not accept or reject, the screen changes to indicate my finger is touching the glass, but nothing happens as far as registering my fingerprint goes, it just does nothing. I do not yet know if the 50% charging limitiation is still in place or not, I will update when I find out. I am assuming this is no longer an issue.
Not bad for $180 now that it has service. I accomplished this by making my own modifications to LGUP, I will be honest, I am a newbie when it comes to this stuff. So I was poking around and changed a few things here, a few things there, and I could not tell you specifically what I did that made this work. The phone still does not show me an IMEI number. (Just a 0 in place of it.) I dont want to break the rules regarding changing IMEI's, but since this would be more like restoring the IMEI, maybe the mods will allow us to discuss potential fixes to that issue.
Interesting this demo unit. What is the firmware showing in the system menu? Could you update to any newer firmware? Or could you unlock the bootloader / flash another official fimware?
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So I was able to successfully get the DEMO LG Wing I bought off of ebay. (Model LMF101V) Flashed. And despite being told these didn't even have a modem in them, I am able to get 5G with a Tmobile SIM now. *I believe these were originally Verizon demo's, but I am not sure. I am missing storage, which I have seen was a problem with other LG demo models. However it appears the SD card is working, so this is not a huge deal to me. (It registers 8GB instead of 256GB) I know the storage is actually there, because prior to flashing, I was able to access and use it in the demo mode.
I was wondering if anyone could help me get the biometrics working? The hardware is present and the phone does detect a fingerprint reader, but when trying to use it, it never registers any finger prints. *It does not accept or reject, the screen changes to indicate my finger is touching the glass, but nothing happens as far as registering my fingerprint goes, it just does nothing. I do not yet know if the 50% charging limitiation is still in place or not, I will update when I find out. I am assuming this is no longer an issue.
Not bad for $180 now that it has service. I accomplished this by making my own modifications to LGUP, I will be honest, I am a newbie when it comes to this stuff. So I was poking around and changed a few things here, a few things there, and I could not tell you specifically what I did that made this work. The phone still does not show me an IMEI number. (Just a 0 in place of it.) I dont want to break the rules regarding changing IMEI's, but since this would be more like restoring the IMEI, maybe the mods will allow us to discuss potential fixes to that issue.
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How did you flash it!?
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How did you flash it!?
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Modified LGUP - Chip Erase was the only option that would do anything at all. So I first flashed a Verizon ROM and then a Tmobile ROM. Both lifted all all the limitations placed on the device. The only thing that did not work was the fingerprint sensor, but its there... so there has got to be a way. That and it wont show an IMEI number at all after that. Yet at least with Tmobile, that doesnt appear to matter.
Please direct me to the steps or page that will explain how to do what you did to remove this demo crap. Thanks in advance.
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Please direct me to the steps or page that will explain how to do what you did to remove this demo crap. Thanks in advance.
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There isn't one. I figured this out on my own.
Have you played with a Velvet 5g? I just got a retail mode one.
I got ahold of 2 V60 demo units. I believe they are the Verizon ones? Anyhow i removed demo limitations to allow use of the device again, battery is at 50% llke most, and its supposedly missing the modem as i cannot get any information in Phone Information for the cellular bands etc.. It would be nice however to get them working IF they are present.
I don't see how your velvet has the modems unless perhaps it was specific verizon ones which these devices were rumored to have the ability of a full device (modem and everything else) once flashed to different firmware.
If you could walk back through what you do (i know im guilty myself of forgetting to write things down) and try to remember exactly what all you did this would help a lot on these demo units. I see a people wanting to convert them more these days since the phones are getting more hi tech. 5-7 years ago and so you could covert these,, Before that demo phones.. well they were all real. Was never an issue getting them cheap and no need for converting.. Wish it was like that today!
Any updates on this? Local used phone stores want $450 starting, I see a handful on eBay for anywhere from $120+, non-demo ones average around $350+. I'd like to get one that's unlocked (currently on Sprint/TMobile) but likely gonna be switching to AT&T. I see a lot of phones that say unlocked but I don't know if they're truly unlocked and/or how to do it myself if they're in fact not unlocked. 10+yrs ago I used to bake my own ROM's and whatnot but nowadays it feels like Spanish to me so I don't wanna buy the wrong phone and have it not work (demo issues) or not be able to easily switch providers.
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I got ahold of 2 V60 demo units. I believe they are the Verizon ones? Anyhow i removed demo limitations to allow use of the device again, battery is at 50% llke most, and its supposedly missing the modem as i cannot get any information in Phone Information for the cellular bands etc.. It would be nice however to get them working IF they are present.
I don't see how your velvet has the modems unless perhaps it was specific verizon ones which these devices were rumored to have the ability of a full device (modem and everything else) once flashed to different firmware.
If you could walk back through what you do (i know im guilty myself of forgetting to write things down) and try to remember exactly what all you did this would help a lot on these demo units. I see a people wanting to convert them more these days since the phones are getting more hi tech. 5-7 years ago and so you could covert these,, Before that demo phones.. well they were all real. Was never an issue getting them cheap and no need for converting.. Wish it was like that today!
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The lg velvet retail modes do take the korean firmware. Everything works even 5g. Battery works 100%.
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Any updates on this? Local used phone stores want $450 starting, I see a handful on eBay for anywhere from $120+, non-demo ones average around $350+. I'd like to get one that's unlocked (currently on Sprint/TMobile) but likely gonna be switching to AT&T. I see a lot of phones that say unlocked but I don't know if they're truly unlocked and/or how to do it myself if they're in fact not unlocked. 10+yrs ago I used to bake my own ROM's and whatnot but nowadays it feels like Spanish to me so I don't wanna buy the wrong phone and have it not work (demo issues) or not be able to easily switch providers.
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Yup i was able to flash the lg velvet retail modes with korean firmware. 5g even works with att. Hotspot isnt even locked like it would be on stock att firmware. Im really loving these lg velvet retail mode phones. If you can find them cheap get one.
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So I was able to successfully get the DEMO LG Wing I bought off of ebay. (Model LMF101V) Flashed. And despite being told these didn't even have a modem in them, I am able to get 5G with a Tmobile SIM now. *I believe these were originally Verizon demo's, but I am not sure. I am missing storage, which I have seen was a problem with other LG demo models. However it appears the SD card is working, so this is not a huge deal to me. (It registers 8GB instead of 256GB) I know the storage is actually there, because prior to flashing, I was able to access and use it in the demo mode.
I was wondering if anyone could help me get the biometrics working? The hardware is present and the phone does detect a fingerprint reader, but when trying to use it, it never registers any finger prints. *It does not accept or reject, the screen changes to indicate my finger is touching the glass, but nothing happens as far as registering my fingerprint goes, it just does nothing. I do not yet know if the 50% charging limitiation is still in place or not, I will update when I find out. I am assuming this is no longer an issue.
Not bad for $180 now that it has service. I accomplished this by making my own modifications to LGUP, I will be honest, I am a newbie when it comes to this stuff. So I was poking around and changed a few things here, a few things there, and I could not tell you specifically what I did that made this work. The phone still does not show me an IMEI number. (Just a 0 in place of it.) I dont want to break the rules regarding changing IMEI's, but since this would be more like restoring the IMEI, maybe the mods will allow us to discuss potential fixes to that issue.
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Is there any chance you could share what you did to get this working? I've been trying to flash stock firmware to my Wing but haven't had any success. All of my attempts have either caused LGUP to crash, fail, or "successfully" flash but never actually do anything to the phone.
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gd243 said:
Is there any chance you could share what you did to get this working? I've been trying to flash stock firmware to my Wing but haven't had any success. All of my attempts have either caused LGUP to crash, fail, or "successfully" flash but never actually do anything to the phone.
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Dont use the gui tool. Learn to flash from terminal and you will be set.
I could never get the tool to work outside of the cmd promt.
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Dont use the gui tool. Learn to flash from terminal and you will be set.
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Alright, I'll give that a shot. Any specific firmware I should go for? I have the Korean and Verizon, not sure which is better. This is a Verizon demo unit, btw.
Edit: If you could link me to the terminal version, that would be appreciated.
gd243 said:
Alright, I'll give that a shot. Any specific firmware I should go for? I have the Korean and Verizon, not sure which is better. This is a Verizon demo unit, btw.
Edit: If you could link me to the terminal version, that would be appreciated.
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Just search xda or reddit on how to use lgup in command prompt. Ive been successful with the korean firmware.
gd243 said:
Alright, I'll give that a shot. Any specific firmware I should go for? I have the Korean and Verizon, not sure which is better. This is a Verizon demo unit, btw.
Edit: If you could link me to the terminal version, that would be appreciated.
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I personally cant wait until firehose comes out for the lg velvet. I have a few of those. They work great on att 5g. Almost feels exactly like my s20 ultra in my hand. Too bad lg stopped making phones.
Terminal version worked perfectly! The korean firmware works and seems to be fully functional, although I will have to do more testing. I may try flashing US carrier firmware at some point if it's compatible (probably T-Mobile as I use that), but for now this is fine.
Been using the phone for a few days now. It's largely been fine, however the fingerprint sensor doesn't seem to work as the OP mentioned. Still, if anyone has a demo device, it's much better then using the gimped firmware it comes with.
gd243 said:
Been using the phone for a few days now. It's largely been fine, however the fingerprint sensor doesn't seem to work as the OP mentioned. Still, if anyone has a demo device, it's much better then using the gimped firmware it comes with.
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Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/fingerprint-loss-on-boot-unlock.4270491/
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Try this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/fingerprint-loss-on-boot-unlock.4270491/
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Tried without downgrading the firmware (if that's even possible- I don't think the Wing came with Android 9). ( #*462633*#100# ) got me into the service menu, did the fingerprint test and now it recognizes me putting my finger against the sensor, but tells me "Cover the entire sensor with your finger" every time.
Edit: To be clear, I'm using the latest Korean firmware. I'm not sure if downgrading it would work, since as far as I know it's all Android 10.