Sorry if this has already been covered, but the only thread I could find on point was in the archive.
I recently bought a Photon for Sprint on ebay with the idea of reselling it. The phone was running 2.35 and I used Photon-torpedo to root it, which worked just fine. Today, on a whim, I popped my sim chip from my AT&T Atrix 4g into it, to see if it would work. It did. And, with a little bit of tweaking of the settings, I was able to get 4g data to run. (I set Network Mode to "Automatic", and enabled the checkbox to Allow GSM was all). Then, to take it further, I was able to start Mobile Hotspot, which I'd had to "disable" the device check on line 118 in my Atrix to get to do the same thing.
So, my question is a little noobish: Is my Photon carrier unlocked somehow, perhaps by Photon-Torpedo? Am I going to get slammed by AT&T for some sort of bizarre roaming charge? Anyone know why this worked?
nice, what baseband does it have and does it say unlock when you first boot up phone?
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I don't think its unlocked as it doesn't say unlocked when it boots up and behaves like it still thinks its a Sprint phone. Google Play store also treats it as a Sprint phone. The baseband is n_01.29.08_GSM
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I don't think its unlocked as it doesn't say unlocked when it boots up and behaves like it still thinks its a Sprint phone. Google Play store also treats it as a Sprint phone. The baseband is n_01.29.08_GSM
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you say it works just fine on the AT&T network? interesting. are you outside of the US? that's the only way it would work out of the box like that. i would like to hear more about this!
No, I am not outside the US. I am in Seattle, and we have nost of the big carriers here, (Sprint, Verizon, AT&T), so it is as much a surprise to me as to you.
I've been using this phone for about 3 days now on AT&T, and it's been working as well as my Atrix 4g by all appearances.
If there's any info I can provide let me know. I'd love to figure this out.
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No, I am not outside the US. I am in Seattle, and we have nost of the big carriers here, (Sprint, Verizon, AT&T), so it is as much a surprise to me as to you.
I've been using this phone for about 3 days now on AT&T, and it's been working as well as my Atrix 4g by all appearances.
If there's any info I can provide let me know. I'd love to figure this out.
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i'm 2 hours away from you haha. small world. well your baseband is very unusual! so i think you may have a special phone on your hands that some devs would love to have. i do have a couple questions. where did the phone come from? someone inside the US? if it came from another non-US carrier it would make sense. as a japanese version known as KDDI has the same phone but unlocked GSM for the US. perhaps you can pull me the build.prop file from the system folder and post on here as a zip or text file. (otherwise xda won't allow the upload) then we can see just a little more info on the device and what carrier it might have come from originally.
you're baseband is unique. photons latest baseband is n_01.28.07r. previous ones have been N_01.28.0Xs.fk, X=random character
This phone was a eBay purchase and sent from Fort Lauderdale Florida. It was listed as a Sprint phone, and the only information that was in the ebay listing was that she had changed carriers after having it for 6 months and had to get another phone. I will post the build prop late tonight when I have more time.
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This phone was a eBay purchase and sent from Fort Lauderdale Florida. It was listed as a Sprint phone, and the only information that was in the ebay listing was that she had changed carriers after having it for 6 months and had to get another phone. I will post the build prop late tonight when I have more time.
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awesome. i'm excited to see this. the magical photon!
As requested, here is the build.prop attached as a zip file. Let me know what you find. And let me know if you need anything else.
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As requested, here is the build.prop attached as a zip file. Let me know what you find. And let me know if you need anything else.
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you my friend have one very unique photon. you have a unique baseband and build of the OS. i have never seen either of them. i posted in another forum asking others about this. you might have the missing key people have been looking for in terms of GSM unlocking. i wanna know who had this phone and if maybe it's a leaked OS on the phone or something else that's going on? do you know if the CDMA side of the phone works at all? even just making a call whether a line is connected or not?
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i wouldn't mind getting a nandroid backup of this if you could possibly do that? using bootstrap, a real recovery, or even this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samcripp.romff (i think this would do the job if you don't have bootstrap or a real custom recovery)
i would thank you a lot for it! you could upload it to dropbox or something if that's possible?
Okay. Let me research how to do a nandroid backup. As soon as I have it figured out, I will post it.
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Okay. Let me research how to do a nandroid backup. As soon as I have it figured out, I will post it.
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you can use bootstrap here,
http://files.acsyndicate.net/pub/users/Steve/MOTODX2_Bootstrap_signed.apk
or you can use the one listed in the previous post. or you can unlock and install a custom recovery. however i'd be careful with unlocking because flashing the wrong thing can put your phone back to a standard photon with locked GSM making it somewhat unusable for GSM again. so i wouldn't recommend an unlock at this time.
top tip: don't flash an SBF file whatever you do!
installing and using bootstrap:
Installation:
Download the recovery file
Mount your device to USB
Put the .apk on your device
Unplug your device
Navigate to the file explorer, install “Bootstrap_signed.apk”
When the installation completes, run the application
Click “Install Recovery”
Accept the Superuser request
Click “Install Recovery” again for good measure
After success, plug your Photon 4G into the wall adapter
Verify that your phone is charging from the wall
Press “Recovery Mode”
Your device will now slowly reboot into Tenfar’s CWM Recovery
*note: you do need to have your phone plugged in to get into "recovery" mode.
then do a backup
Magical Photon
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you my friend have one very unique photon. you have a unique baseband and build of the OS. i have never seen either of them. i posted in another forum asking others about this. you might have the missing key people have been looking for in terms of GSM unlocking. i wanna know who had this phone and if maybe it's a leaked OS on the phone or something else that's going on? do you know if the CDMA side of the phone works at all? even just making a call whether a line is connected or not?
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i wouldn't mind getting a nandroid backup of this if you could possibly do that? using bootstrap, a real recovery, or even this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samcripp.romff (i think this would do the job if you don't have bootstrap or a real custom recovery)
i would thank you a lot for it! you could upload it to dropbox or something if that's possible?
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Good News! I have uploaded a backup of the Magical Photon to Dropbox that was taken using the link you provided above. I thought it was better to take that route rather than risk making a stupid mistake while unlocking the bootloader or when flashing the device. Why take chances when you don't have to? PM me with an email address so I can invite you to share the folder. And let me know if you need anything else.
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Good News! I have uploaded a backup of the Magical Photon to Dropbox that was taken using the link you provided above. I thought it was better to take that route rather than risk making a stupid mistake while unlocking the bootloader or when flashing the device. Why take chances when you don't have to? PM me with an email address so I can invite you to share the folder. And let me know if you need anything else.
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Any more news with the magical photon?? Is there a way to create an SBF file to flash to other photons??
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Any more news with the magical photon?? Is there a way to create an SBF file to flash to other photons??
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The last I heard about that was in halfevildruids thread. Na7q posted a CWM flashable zip based on the magical photon. You can find the post here
As far as I know, this hasn't worked for any other phone, (the Magical Photon seems to be completely unique). I think halfevildruid also opined that there could be a binary switch in the magical photon that might be found, but as far as I know nobody is working on it.
What would be really nice to have is the Magical Photon's radio. Unfortunately, its not that easy to get. The plan is to extract it when a new OTA update comes out. But unless a new method surfaces to extract the radio, we'll have to wait for that.
In the meantime, I'm keeping the Magical Photon as close to "pure to stock" as I can to give the devs here the best material to work with if it's ever needed.
Hope that answers your questions.
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The plan is to extract it when a new OTA update comes out.
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The ota would need to be GSM capable to have what we are looking for.
If you guys get me the stock locked and the magical one's nv dump I will start going through it. I have the 2.3.5 leak and kddi dumps again. If its in the nvm I will find it if I can get hold of that phone. If not I can scan for differences between the two nvf's. I am busy opening a wireless repair shop to open in 2 weeks so I am not doing a lot until that is open.
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If its in the nvm I will find it if I can get hold of that phone.
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$100 towards getting you that phone
or
$200 and I'm done deving/hosting this year
or
trade+$ (if JohnH4 will go for it) and you walk me through the nv dump (until we get 2.3.5 unlock this will kill both my atrix and photon deving til that time)
I'll match your 100 or offer up a shiny white 1 month new white HTC vivid straight across if john is interested in an at&t phone. No ones got a chance of getting their paws on my one x though.
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If you guys get me the stock locked and the magical one's nv dump I will start going through it. I have the 2.3.5 leak and kddi dumps again. If its in the nvm I will find it if I can get hold of that phone. If not I can scan for differences between the two nvf's. I am busy opening a wireless repair shop to open in 2 weeks so I am not doing a lot until that is open.
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If anyone can tell me the location of the nvm file, I would be glad to pull it. Will the pull command in adb do the trick?
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Wife left phone unattended in a public place and someone took it. She has never even gotten a scratch on a phone before. It appears that it was turned off or sim removed. It rang a few times for her but by the time I tried "Where's My Droid" it was going to voice mail. ATT is no help and claims they can't block IMEI. She just wants to go back to her LGVu but I know she enjoyed the android. 1. any ideas on how to maybe track it/get it back? 2. Best place to get a good price on another one (used or refurbished ok)? What would be about the best price I can find? 3. I may have to JTAg my bricked Cappy for her, that's only $50. Any useful in put would be great. I know looks like we are screwed.
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Ken
Should have done a Nandroid backup, then you could restore your phone to its last state.
I guess you could always try Rom Manager...
Silly question but how is a back up going to help if someone stile the phone and its not on the OP's possession
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I hope she had it locked, so the theif cannot get the personal info.
Anyway if you are looking for a replacement for AT&T, I would suggest to try SGSII: Skyrocket, it support 4G LTE. It will be faster than the current 4G H+.
I think you should wait for samsung galaxy s2 hd lte to come out, give your current phone to her, and get the new one.
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I hope she had it locked, so the theif cannot get the personal info.
Anyway if you are looking for a replacement for AT&T, I would suggest to try SGSII: Skyrocket, it support 4G LTE. It will be faster than the current 4G H+.
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You sir are in the wrong forum to be talking up the ****rocket.... You could rename the forum to the 'Skyrocket Bashing Forums' and we would all still know its the i777 forums. Lol
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Try Androidlost app from the market, I think it's probably the only app you can push to the phone after its lost and use the web interface to do a host of things like remotely locking and wipe SD. Plus you can make the phone scream at whoever has it, take photos and send you history of call/sms records etc.
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Wife left phone unattended in a public place and someone took it. She has never even gotten a scratch on a phone before. It appears that it was turned off or sim removed. It rang a few times for her but by the time I tried "Where's My Droid" it was going to voice mail. ATT is no help and claims they can't block IMEI. She just wants to go back to her LGVu but I know she enjoyed the android. 1. any ideas on how to maybe track it/get it back? 2. Best place to get a good price on another one (used or refurbished ok)? What would be about the best price I can find? 3. I may have to JTAg my bricked Cappy for her, that's only $50. Any useful in put would be great. I know looks like we are screwed.
Thanks,
Ken
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Red5 said:
Should have done a Nandroid backup, then you could restore your phone to its last state.
I guess you could always try Rom Manager...
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Are you replying to a different post? Your response is so completely out of context...
Try plan b app. It might help.
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Good question, How do I do a recovery on a phone I don't have?
I tried android lost but since the phone is off or the sim is out I can not install it.
That being said I could have used whers my droid pro to send me a text with the new number if they put a new sim card in. But I only expected to locate a misplaced phone not a stolen one.
Learn from my mistake and set up these apps on ur phone now.
No it was not locked she has always worked in a office and had gotten complacent.
What is the S2 HD LTE and when is it coming out?
We all know the S2 beats the hell out of a skyrocket.
I can't affoed over $400 for a new phone so looks like she will get my old GS or and old Iphone.
If anyone is upgrading and can work with me let me know.
Thanks again.
Ken in Orlando
Not too long ago, ATT was selling SGSII refurbs for $0.01. I got one for my better half, and it's sailing along famously.
That was for $0.01 with a two year contract correct? We paid $.96 each for the two we bought, but now we are not able to upgrade again. Can't get that deal.
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You sir are in the wrong forum to be talking up the ****rocket.... You could rename the forum to the 'Skyrocket Bashing Forums' and we would all still know its the i777 forums. Lol
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LOL! Just Kidding...
Skyrocket is still SGSII. I am not far off... (It's just SGSII little bro) LOL! Don't get me wrong, I just got myself the SGSII and love it. I was going to recommend both, but end up recommending Skyrocket (your version: ****rocket. LOL) because of the 4G LTE feature. If the SGSII had the 4G LTE, I would not even flinch recommending it.
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We all know the S2 beats the hell out of a skyrocket.
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Well, sorry I recommended that option. Still new to the SGSII arena... It's a learning curve, ya know!
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That was for $0.01 with a two year contract correct? We paid $.96 each for the two we bought, but now we are not able to upgrade again. Can't get that deal.
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Did you happeds to have an insurance with AT&T? Just a wild guess. If it's in the time frame, I think you can get the replacement. (correct me if I am wrong on this)
it seems to me her office needs cameras.
Check this out bro. https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html ...... mobiletrackerengine.apk or something like that. Maybe that means you might have a chance? Pulled it off of i9100 rom so idk if our i777 have the same bloatware etc. Maybe someone with more knowledge can help explain. Might mean something. Might be useless. Lol
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Thanks clor01, but I followed that to Samsung Dive and it tells all about how to set it up and where it works. Looks like USA is still running behind in technology. Our phone doesn't even have the option of activating it. But it looks like a great addition to any phone.
Ken In Orlando
I heard of plan b for android its a app that installs it self after it was lost/ stolen might work for you
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killa57 said:
I heard of plan b for android its a app that installs it self after it was lost/ stolen might work for you
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Lol, plan b app: for when you do something really stupid and desperately want to undo it. Also known as: the 'morning after' app
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Plan B is your best (only) shot right now I believe
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Sent my old GS1 to have the unbrickablemod applied to it. Downloaded 2.3.5 from Samsung's website. I then rooted the phone and installed the Corn Kernel so I can use CWM. Set phone up to look as close as I could to her GS2, as well as used all the battery saving tricks. Added Wheres My Droid AND Android Lost and set them up completely. Thanks for everyones feed back.
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Alright my dad has a rooted e3d and for whatever reason he called sprint to get his number changed, not even thinking about his root, and they couldn't get it to work. so we thought it may be due to his root, and we unrooted the phone. Called back and still couldn't get it to work, went through all the trouble shooting and then were told we need to bring it back to sprint.
So has anyone else went through changing there number on a rooted device and maybe know more than I do, or have any insight on the situation?
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Alright my dad has a rooted e3d and for whatever reason he called sprint to get his number changed, not even thinking about his root, and they couldn't get it to work. so we thought it may be due to his root, and we unrooted the phone. Called back and still couldn't get it to work, went through all the trouble shooting and then were told we need to bring it back to sprint.
So has anyone else went through changing there number on a rooted device and maybe know more than I do, or have any insight on the situation?
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Is he using a sense rom or a AOSP rom?
I would throw a stock sense rom back on it. Due to the programming codes and numbers you will need which you use in the dialar. You need to have a sense rom going stock at best.
Also what hboot is he 1.5 or older?
reaper24 said:
Is he using a sense rom or a AOSP rom?
I would throw a stock sense rom back on it. Due to the programming codes and numbers you will need which you use in the dialar. You need to have a sense rom going stock at best.
Also what hboot is he 1.5 or older?
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He was on a sense one. But we just unrooted his phone and got him all the way back to stock now.
He's hboot 1.5
Hey Reaper,
As you recall I had a similar-ish problem yesterday that we were tlaking about. Looks like they took my thread down...i searched for it but didn't find it...oh well...
anyways, Is there anyway for sprint to change my esn to give me a clean one now rather than the cloned one that i have? or am i basically stuck with a brick...I tried contacting the guy i got the phone from and he said he'd try to either refund or replace by the end of the week...but its craigslist and i'm not confident i'll ever hear from him again you know?
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oh also, sorry for double posting, but the guy said some customer had done this to the phone and he didn't even know what i wa talking about really. for what its worth he sounded genuine that he thought he had sold a fully functional phone.
is there anyway for me (and by extension sprint) to find out in reality what happened to the phone? i've rooted a phone before to cyanogenmod but never did anything funky like this. it worked immediately with my correct phone number.
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Alright my dad has a rooted e3d and for whatever reason he called sprint to get his number changed, not even thinking about his root, and they couldn't get it to work. so we thought it may be due to his root, and we unrooted the phone. Called back and still couldn't get it to work, went through all the trouble shooting and then were told we need to bring it back to sprint.
So has anyone else went through changing there number on a rooted device and maybe know more than I do, or have any insight on the situation?
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He was on a sense one. But we just unrooted his phone and got him all the way back to stock now.
He's hboot 1.5
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Here is an answer with some technical details, hopefully it helps.
Having root access in and of itself will not have any impact on the ability to program/reprogram/activate the device.
Essentially on the HTC EVO 3D, Sprint installs a custom program which HTC allows to communicate directly with the radio. The radio, generally speaking, is what manages the phone number programming information. In order to change this information, there has to be an android application front end to access the deep down radio layer. This application, usually called EPST.apk on sprint android devices is always included and works with stock sense ROM and kernel.
When people start altering stock ROMs and producing AOSP based ROMs, they generally don't provide support for this application and the low layer radio communications required.
Hence why the best method is to load 100% stock system and kernel (sometimes using the slang term ROM) which will include the correct communcation paths and both front/back applications/routes for the user to correctly program the phone number, etc for activation or reprogramming.
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Hey Reaper,
As you recall I had a similar-ish problem yesterday that we were tlaking about. Looks like they took my thread down...i searched for it but didn't find it...oh well...
anyways, Is there anyway for sprint to change my esn to give me a clean one now rather than the cloned one that i have? or am i basically stuck with a brick...I tried contacting the guy i got the phone from and he said he'd try to either refund or replace by the end of the week...but its craigslist and i'm not confident i'll ever hear from him again you know?
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oh also, sorry for double posting, but the guy said some customer had done this to the phone and he didn't even know what i wa talking about really. for what its worth he sounded genuine that he thought he had sold a fully functional phone.
is there anyway for me (and by extension sprint) to find out in reality what happened to the phone? i've rooted a phone before to cyanogenmod but never did anything funky like this. it worked immediately with my correct phone number.
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Not really related to this thread but I'll throw in my two cents in hopes that it helps. Seems you're hinting that your current device has a bad ESN and it is currently using a cloned ESN.
Generally, this type of manipulation is frowned upon and is a large gray legal area in the US. information regarding this will be more difficult to find. If a store sold you a device with a bad ESN or "cloned" ESN meaning a copy of another known good device ESN w/o telling you, this is generally misleading and should be grounds for a refund/exchange.
Given this is a private transaction off craigslist where there is no review/feedback/mediation method, such as Ebay provides, you are generally at the mercy of the seller.
One route would be to talk with Sprint. Not sure if anybody has tried this or the end result, but you could def present the argument you purchased this device used and are very excited to activate it on Sprint but are unable to due to the previous owner's history with Sprint. Perhaps they would be willing to clear the ESN and allow you to use the device.
Otherwise, you're stuck restoring to gray/shady areas of manipulating how the device registers itself on the Sprint network .. in my personal opinion this is not worth the hassle. If you really want to keep the device, I'd loook into 3rd party carriers such as boot mobile, or whatever is available in your area for CDMA devices as they are generally more willing to modify the device to work on their network.
Hope I was able to understand the limited information provided and my feedback/suggestions help!
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Here is an answer with some technical details, hopefully it helps.
Having root access in and of itself will not have any impact on the ability to program/reprogram/activate the device.
Essentially on the HTC EVO 3D, Sprint installs a custom program which HTC allows to communicate directly with the radio. The radio, generally speaking, is what manages the phone number programming information. In order to change this information, there has to be an android application front end to access the deep down radio layer. This application, usually called EPST.apk on sprint android devices is always included and works with stock sense ROM and kernel.
When people start altering stock ROMs and producing AOSP based ROMs, they generally don't provide support for this application and the low layer radio communications required.
Hence why the best method is to load 100% stock system and kernel (sometimes using the slang term ROM) which will include the correct communcation paths and both front/back applications/routes for the user to correctly program the phone number, etc for activation or reprogramming.[QUOTE/]
Hey thanks for your knowledge. So is there maybe something wrong with my Epst? Says its epst. Version 2.3.4
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smoothe23 said:
joeykrim said:
Here is an answer with some technical details, hopefully it helps.
Having root access in and of itself will not have any impact on the ability to program/reprogram/activate the device.
Essentially on the HTC EVO 3D, Sprint installs a custom program which HTC allows to communicate directly with the radio. The radio, generally speaking, is what manages the phone number programming information. In order to change this information, there has to be an android application front end to access the deep down radio layer. This application, usually called EPST.apk on sprint android devices is always included and works with stock sense ROM and kernel.
When people start altering stock ROMs and producing AOSP based ROMs, they generally don't provide support for this application and the low layer radio communications required.
Hence why the best method is to load 100% stock system and kernel (sometimes using the slang term ROM) which will include the correct communcation paths and both front/back applications/routes for the user to correctly program the phone number, etc for activation or reprogramming.
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Hey thanks for your knowledge. So is there maybe something wrong with my Epst? Says its epst. Version 2.3.4
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Perhaps.
EPST is only the front end, there are a few other pieces which are required for EPST to successfully connect through the OS to the lower level radio.
Best route as stated above is to go 100% stock kernel and system as these are known to have all required pieces in working condition. Good luck!
joeykrim said:
Perhaps.
EPST is only the front end, there are a few other pieces which are required for EPST to successfully connect through the OS to the lower level radio.
Best route as stated above is to go 100% stock kernel and system as these are known to have all required pieces in working condition. Good luck!
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Thanks for all your help man. One last question, do you think this HTC software update may fix this issue?
I see from reading the XDA news articles that Verizon is now allowing the Sony Xperia Play to be unlocked now that is is a discontinued phone. I wonder if there's a chance that Big Red MIGHT allow our phones (and other disco'd phones) to be unlocked.
I don't know if they will go for this but it's worth a shot.
I doubt it. I dont even thing the phone is discontinued yet. I believe I still saw it in the Verizon store last weekend.
EDIT: Although, I dont see it on their website anymore.
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I doubt it. I dont even thing the phone is discontinued yet. I believe I still saw it in the Verizon store last weekend.
EDIT: Although, I dont see it on their website anymore.
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my carrier has dropped the mx2 for new sales and barely support it now they have the razr maxx
Same here for my area.
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Do you think that moto will do that?
They are lots of their phones discontinued and nothing happens, anyway it seems to be that development was gone because of locked boot.
Therr are not many things we can do now!
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Do you think that moto will do that?
They are lots of their phones discontinued and nothing happens, anyway it seems to be that development was gone because of locked boot.
Therr are not many things we can do now!
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severely doubt it they have no reason to when they can make so much money off of new phones. why bother doing anything for old and discontinued phones the only reason that verizon would allow a phone to have an unlockable boot loader is that they cant make money off it and the device manufacturer has bugged the hell out of them to let it happen.
So, there's ANYTHING you can do with the phone once the bootloader is on?
I'm from Venezuela (sorry for the crappy english, trying my best here) and I buy a Unlock Droid x2, and trying up upgrading the Android to something more newer than 2.3.4 the bootloader lock. I was using it for a few days in WIFI with Whatsapp, Skype and Line. Now I can't find ANYTHING on how to bypass that lock.
I just lost my money? In a country with a monetary barricade like this, it's kinda a downer know I just waste 180 bucks just because I try (and fail) upgrade my phone.
I was reading around and find sites that will give you and "unlock" number based on you MEID, is that even work? I'll pay to have my phone unlock, if come to that, but I want to know I can at least do something!
I must add; I just want to be able to enter to the google play, install whatsapp, etc. I DONT WANT ANOTHER CDMA NETWORK ON THE PHONE.
I buy the phone with those opcions; I don't care if I cant send normal txt msjs, if I can at least use the phone!
all you can do in bootloader is flash .sbf recovery files
which model do you have, label under battery says MB870?
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Id love to have my DX2 umlocked... if it was I could use it as a bluetooth audio streamer for example... now it is so bugy it cant do much
Is there a formal request form we can send verizon to free our old devices from bootloader lockdown?
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I was wondering is anyone has tried to flash the kdz for the AS985 on the VS985 since they are virually the same phone just the AS985 doesn't have the verizon bloat and has the fm radio enabled
The AS model is for ACG (associated carrier group) which is a US CDMA cellular group with cellcom listed as the primary cellphone company which uses verizon towers so the radios are the same. it is the same phone just without the verizon bloat.
Can anyone send me the KDZ for this phone?
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Come on guys I'm onto something.. We will have firmware without verizon meddling with it and an fm radio
Flash it and see if you brick.
bigshotrob22 said:
Flash it and see if you brick.
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I dont have the firmware to flash
Find it and flash it.... You might have to flash our boot.IMG for it to boot though not a pro!!!!
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blap017 said:
Find it and flash it.... You might have to flash our boot.IMG for it to boot though not a pro!!!!
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I'm trying to find it and when I do I will flash it and if all goes well it can be a break through for getting the legit non verizon modified version of android for our phones
assuming the vs985 has the radio chip and it's just not enabled, all that would really be necessary is to figure out the change that needs to be made to turn on the radio.
The Bionic (xt875) for instance had a chip that was totally capable of receiving gsm bands, all it took was figuring out some firmware radio edits to enable it, and some APN changes. After that you could pop in a tmobile sim card and be up and running on tmobile instead of verizon. This may be a similar situation. Flashing the entire rom sounds dangerous, but you may be able to pull and flash just the bits you need to get the radio to work.
Step one would be determining that there is even an fm radio in the to enable. Haven't foudn much for teardowns of this device, but if you find one take a close look at all the chips and look them up.
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assuming the vs985 has the radio chip and it's just not enabled, all that would really be necessary is to figure out the change that needs to be made to turn on the radio.
The Bionic (xt875) for instance had a chip that was totally capable of receiving gsm bands, all it took was figuring out some firmware radio edits to enable it, and some APN changes. After that you could pop in a tmobile sim card and be up and running on tmobile instead of verizon. This may be a similar situation. Flashing the entire rom sounds dangerous, but you may be able to pull and flash just the bits you need to get the radio to work.
Step one would be determining that there is even an fm radio in the to enable. Haven't foudn much for teardowns of this device, but if you find one take a close look at all the chips and look them up.
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This has nothing to do with gsm.. Our VS985 is already gsm enabled. I know this because I had a Net10 AT&T SIM in my phone and it worked just fine but then I switched to Net10 Verizon because AT&T has terrible service. Anyways all smarphones have an fm radio chip in them it's just the carriers except sprint disable them. That way you have to use your data to listen to music which runs your data down fast causeing overages and more money going to the carriers.
I'm trying to make it so we have more freedom when it comes to OUR devices
There is an fm radio chip on the Verizon phone. Debate if actually powered or antenna is connected. No one's managed to turn it on yet, and it's been looked at by a couple of developers. Firmware might be needed - the right firmware and configuration files could be present, but I don't know for sure how similar the two phones are. If the partitions are different, for example, the kdz will almost certainly fry your phone. I do believe the devs can extract from a kdz and take a look though. Or an image dump.
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This has nothing to do with gsm..
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I know that.
It was an example of an instance (hence the words "for instance")where a disabled function was re-enabled.
This was done by using the leaked motorola radiocomm tools to edit a single 16 digit item in the NV of the radio firmware, which was later refined down to a simple flashable zip file
I'm trying to help you, don't be daft.
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There is an fm radio chip on the Verizon phone. Debate if actually powered or antenna is connected. No one's managed to turn it on yet, and it's been looked at by a couple of developers. Firmware might be needed - the right firmware and configuration files could be present, but I don't know for sure how similar the two phones are. If the partitions are different, for example, the kdz will almost certainly fry your phone. I do believe the devs can extract from a kdz and take a look though. Or an image dump.
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yeah, apparently this territory has been covered already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/fm-radio-vs985-t2977483
I'm never rooting for someone to brick their phone......but maybe sometimes it's the best thing that could happen. So by all means if you can even get lg flash tool to flash an incorrect kdz on your phone, please do. But make sure you report back so we know how it went.
theistus said:
I know that.
It was an example of an instance (hence the words "for instance")where a disabled function was re-enabled.
This was done by using the leaked motorola radiocomm tools to edit a single 16 digit item in the NV of the radio firmware, which was later refined down to a simple flashable zip file
I'm trying to help you, don't be daft.
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yeah, apparently this territory has been covered already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/fm-radio-vs985-t2977483
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Ok I get what your saying but without the AS985 firmware we don't have the code to work with plus I am not only trying to get the radio working but also a boot loader that has fastboot included with it. Since verizon didn't modify this variant it should still have the fastboot in the boot loader. In other words this is a unVERIZONfied version of our phone
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There is an fm radio chip on the Verizon phone. Debate if actually powered or antenna is connected. No one's managed to turn it on yet, and it's been looked at by a couple of developers. Firmware might be needed - the right firmware and configuration files could be present, but I don't know for sure how similar the two phones are. If the partitions are different, for example, the kdz will almost certainly fry your phone. I do believe the devs can extract from a kdz and take a look though. Or an image dump.
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Check this out and tell me how similar they are.. http://www.mylgphones.com/lg-g3-vs985-for-verzion-wirelesss-pass-through-the-fcc.html
macdaddie87 said:
Check this out and tell me how similar they are.. http://www.mylgphones.com/lg-g3-vs985-for-verzion-wirelesss-pass-through-the-fcc.html
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That didn't say anything about partition set up, specific radio chips, etc. They may be very similar. If we could get a fastboot that would be great though, plus maybe some if the extra ROM features Verizon removed, Plus maybe the fm radio...
danaff37 said:
That didn't say anything about partition set up, specific radio chips, etc. They may be very similar. If we could get a fastboot that would be great though, plus maybe some if the extra ROM features Verizon removed, Plus maybe the fm radio...
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There's only one way to find out and that is to get the kdz.. Some Chinese website has one for what ever reason but I don't know Chinese to sign up and see the download link
macdaddie87 said:
There's only one way to find out and that is to get the kdz.. Some Chinese website has one for what ever reason but I don't know Chinese to sign up and see the download link
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whats the site link?
bweN diorD said:
whats the site link?
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here it is..http://bbs.gaodi.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=667930&extra=page%3D1&mobile=2
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here it is..http://bbs.gaodi.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=667930&extra=page=1&mobile=2
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Says the link to the file is down.
I'll look around more when I get home later.
Hi everyone I've been trying to check out some Samsung Galaxy Centura ROMs and I know there are some cool ones on Android Area 51 but this whole week it the site seems to have been down. Does anyone know whats going one?
Same story here. Been trying to get on since December. I've been looking for that ARC1.3.zip - if anyone has it I'd appreciate it. That's all I need.
edit: I just got it through a direct link in the Idiot's Guide to rooting centura PDF
So...does anyone actually know what has become of Androidarea51 ??
I've been trying to access that site for some time now and it always fails to load.
Not sure what happened at AA51. They are the reason I got into Android and modding. They covered a lot of the lower-end devices.
In any event, if anyone needs files for the devices I worked on or kept for one reason or another I have files for Lg Optimus Fuel L34C, Lg Optimus Q/Net, ZTE Roamer/Merrit, Samsung Galaxy Proclaim/Illusion, Samsung Galaxy Core Prime/Prevail LTE, and I may still have some files for ST Galaxy S3. (which uses Verizon ROMs and recoveries)
Hit me up if you need anything for these devices.
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Thanks for replying RealWelder.
For me AA51 -and- the LG L34C together were what made for a great turning point in my own Android adventures.
I needed a decent low-end device for wifi uses only - and the L34C went on sales for $5 & $10 & I was lucky enough to grab a couple.
If I'd known how good those little phones really were, I'd have gotten 1/2 dozen of them while they were so cheap & still wish I could find a few more to buy cheaply someplace, really !!
Best Wishes.
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Thanks for replying RealWelder.
For me AA51 -and- the LG L34C together were what made for a great turning point in my own Android adventures.
I needed a decent low-end device for wifi uses only - and the L34C went on sales for $5 & $10 & I was lucky enough to grab a couple.
If I'd known how good those little phones really were, I'd have gotten 1/2 dozen of them while they were so cheap & still wish I could find a few more to buy cheaply someplace, really !!
Best Wishes.
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I still have a fuel, but my daughter plays her games on it. Lol. If you are interested in modding your fuels out I got some cool stuff I could share. I've been modding my Tab3, I've went through it and made all the text appearances and icons colorable via color pickers and a RomControl app.
Check out tdunham's Unified TouchWiz mods thread. It is mostly for Samsung's but a lot of the mods are "self-sufficient" so they should work on any device.
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My couple of those were slightly modded with the AA51 ROM so as to be rooted & de-krapified.
They get used as terrific MP3 players & GPS units.
If I ever come across a couple more I'll look into making more mods.
For actual cellular uses my favourites are the Kyocera Hydro Icon & the LG Volt - both of which cost around $20 & really satisfy all my phone type needs - also rooted & de-krapified, of course.
There's Android stuff I want to use on the bigger screen - that is my present desire, and I'm hoping for that purpose that Anbox matures quickly.
I know there are other ways to do this, but that one looks most promising for Linux users right now.
Thanks and Best Wishes.
End of the golden age of Android
So sad. First Cyanogenmod site gone, now this. Android hobbyists were edged out by the new compiling method of LP (among other things) and seemed to be a slippery slope of grass-roots support for the platform. Large swaths of the xda forums have become ghost towns.
Not sure if your still trying to find arc1.3 but if my mind serves me correctly I may have it saved to either my laptop or one of my flash drives. I will have to look for it because I had all the aa51 roms for the galaxy Centura as I still have one floating around somewhere with a busted outer glass running arc.
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Not sure what happened at AA51. They are the reason I got into Android and modding. They covered a lot of the lower-end devices.
In any event, if anyone needs files for the devices I worked on or kept for one reason or another I have files for Lg Optimus Fuel L34C, Lg Optimus Q/Net, ZTE Roamer/Merrit, Samsung Galaxy Proclaim/Illusion, Samsung Galaxy Core Prime/Prevail LTE, and I may still have some files for ST Galaxy S3. (which uses Verizon ROMs and recoveries)
Hit me up if you need anything for these devices.
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I need odin files for the Proclaim/Illusion please
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I need odin files for the Proclaim/Illusion please
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Uploading you a zip right now, I'll post when finished.
It has cwm, twrp, root, return to stock, meid fix, and cwm loop fix. [DO NOT factory reset from Settings, or you'll have to flash loop fix(stock recovery) and then reflash your custom recovery.]
Here you go.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3XczzpnAnvwQWM4Yl8wazRJMXc @kylelwalker1990
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Hey all,Android Area 51 is on Facebook.
boogersugar said:
Same story here. Been trying to get on since December. I've been looking for that ARC1.3.zip - if anyone has it I'd appreciate it. That's all I need.
edit: I just got it through a direct link in the Idiot's Guide to rooting centura PDF
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Is there any way you could uploaded me a copy of TWRP or whatever custom recovery you have for the Centura? I have a buddy needing the recovery.
Update: I got ahold of a cwm for it. It works but doesn't mount all partitions correctly...is this what you have also?
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Does anyone have custom ROM for centura? I tried flashing one but all I get is a black screen
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For any one else interested in the github respitory here it is https://github.com/cmotc/android_product_samsung_centura/tree/master/ROM it has a cwm recovery and a custom kernel image but when flashing results in a black screen
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Does anyone have custom ROM for centura? I tried flashing one but all I get is a black screen
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For any one else interested in the github respitory here it is https://github.com/cmotc/android_product_samsung_centura/tree/master/ROM it has a cwm recovery and a custom kernel image but when flashing results in a black screen
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Yep, type this in your browser ftp://asburycctv.mooo.com/
These are all the area51 centura files i have ever downloaded.... not sure how long i will have these shared publicly, so download and repost (say from google drive, or something), as soon as you get to it.
Thanks and good luck!
Was hoping there would be some more recent Centura development myself, bummer all online sources seem to be gone :/
SIDENOTE: These phones make great security cameras using IP Webcam app by the way
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pas.webcam&hl=en
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Yep, type this in your browser ftp://asburycctv.mooo.com/
These are all the area51 centura files i have ever downloaded.... not sure how long i will have these shared publicly, so download and repost (say from google drive, or something), as soon as you get to it.
Thanks and good luck!
Was hoping there would be some more recent Centura development myself, bummer all online sources seem to be gone :/
SIDENOTE: These phones make great security cameras using IP Webcam app by the way
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pas.webcam&hl=en
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Thanks for the link,its very appreciated.[emoji4]
@RealWelder hey man do you still have stuff for the optimus zone 2? i think its supposedly the same as the fuel or something
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@RealWelder hey man do you still have stuff for the optimus zone 2? i think its supposedly the same as the fuel or something
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I have stuff for the fuel, but not sure about the zone 2. Is it l40c? I've read before that they were the same device, but just on a different carrier (Verizon instead of ST) but idk if they have same bootloader signature. The images had to be "bumped" in order to pass bootloader. You could try, but it would be at your own risk. If you do, share the results so I'll know if they work on it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3XczzpnAnvwZTNNZFEtQjVlSlk/view?usp=drivesdk
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RealWelder said:
I have stuff for the fuel, but not sure about the zone 2. Is it l40c? I've read before that they were the same device, but just on a different carrier (Verizon instead of ST) but idk if they have same bootloader signature. The images had to be "bumped" in order to pass bootloader. You could try, but it would be at your own risk. If you do, share the results so I'll know if they work on it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3XczzpnAnvwZTNNZFEtQjVlSlk/view?usp=drivesdk
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I can't do jack **** to this phone man :laugh::crying: It's got that corrupted memory thing going on, i think it got water damage or something. it has the "boot certification verify" error and it shows up as, no ****, 27 different empty/corrupt usb drives when i plug it into my computer, which has the drivers for it and does somehow recognize it
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I can't do jack **** to this phone man [emoji23]:crying: It's got that corrupted memory thing going on, i think it got water damage or something. it has the "boot certification verify" error and it shows up as, no ****, 27 different empty/corrupt usb drives when i plug it into my computer, which has the drivers for it and does somehow recognize it
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I have one on the same condition. There's no fix unfortunately. The bootloader has been tripped.