Ok, so I need some help. I had to trade my evo in due to a problem with the front facing camera so, naturally, I have hboot 1.5. Though it is frustrating, I don't have a really big problem with taking an extra step to flash ROMS. Unfortunately, I have not been able to sucessfully flash for a while. I was on Nocturnal Xplod (1/2/12) and it was relatively stable, with only a few reboots every week. However, lately, it has gotten unstable and so I started looking for an alternative.
Every single time I flash a different ROM I get about an hour of stability, then it reboots every 5-10 minutes until the battery runs out.
I have tried the flashimg gui method, I have tried using adb to go through fastboot and flash recovery . . . I have tried with and without TiBa. I am not sure what to do. Am I missing something? I am not a flashaholic, but I do like to have the ability to take advantage of stable roms.
I am using TWRP 1.03 on my phone, so I will try CWM since I just read that people are having trouble with bad flashes with TWRP. If anyone else has any other recommendations, I would be very happy to hear them.
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Ok, so I need some help. I had to trade my evo in due to a problem with the front facing camera so, naturally, I have hboot 1.5. Though it is frustrating, I don't have a really big problem with taking an extra step to flash ROMS. Unfortunately, I have not been able to sucessfully flash for a while. I was on Nocturnal Xplod (1/2/12) and it was relatively stable, with only a few reboots every week. However, lately, it has gotten unstable and so I started looking for an alternative.
Every single time I flash a different ROM I get about an hour of stability, then it reboots every 5-10 minutes until the battery runs out.
I have tried the flashimg gui method, I have tried using adb to go through fastboot and flash recovery . . . I have tried with and without TiBa. I am not sure what to do. Am I missing something? I am not a flashaholic, but I do like to have the ability to take advantage of stable roms.
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I am using TWRP 1.03 on my phone, so I will try CWM since I just read that people are having trouble with bad flashes with TWRP. If anyone else has any other recommendations, I would be very happy to hear them.
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A bad flash can occur but generally they aren't prevelant. The best place to look for feedback on ROMs is in that specific ROM thread. If that specific ROM isn't setup well, or has bugs, these will cause random reboots.
If you're really interested in helping out the devs, the best first step in technically troubleshooting a random reboot is to grab the /proc/last_kmsg file. This is a log of the kernel as of last boot and will indicate whether or not the kernel was involved in the random reboot. If the issue is in the kernel, will narrow down the focus. If the issue is not in the kernel, will eliminate that possibility.
Another common cause of random reboots can be poorly coded 3rd party apps. Unfortunately, depending on the number of 3rd apps installed, this process can take a while to troubleshoot as the best method is to remove all and start installing in batches waiting to see if any random reboots occur.
Hope these few suggestions and some technical information help!
Thank you Joeykrim. I will look into that, but I am fearing more and more that it may be my phone. I have tried probably every sense 3.0 rom (need wimax and camera so no 3.5) and several different kernels, and it keeps happening.
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I'm hoping I can provide information that may be helpful to developers about the Thunderbird's random rebooting problems.
For my phone it seems related to the ROM I'm running, so maybe this will help ID the problem?
ROMS w/o reboots:
Got the phone, got the OTA update, no reboots. None.
Rooted the phone, configured and ran PG05IMG_MR1_upgrade.zip, no reboots.
After bad experienced, unrooted, back to stock, no reboots.
OTA update again, no reboots.
Re-rooted, again ran the updated rooted ROM, no reboots.
Several listed below caused problems so I'm on Synergy with no reboots.
ROMs with reboots:
Liquid 1.5, reboots 2-3 times/hour
Liquid 1.4, reboots several times/day
Liquid 1.6, reboots several times/day
PUR3A05PTH3ORY v 1.2.2 reboots several times/day
Gingervitis 1.2, no reboots, powers off and won't come back on until I do a battery pull!
I'm really hoping this will help someone take a stab at fixing the problem! Changelogs for Liquid should help, why is 1.5 worse than 1.4 or 1.6? What's included or missing in the ROMs that fail as compared to the roms that work?
Every phone is different, just because a certain version of a rom isn't working well for you, doesn't mean that is the case with everyone. Each phone is different in you have to find what works best for you.
For example, I used Gingeritis based off of the GB leak and was getting a lot of reboots, but I tried BAMF and wasn't getting any. Meanwhile others get reboots on BAMF and don't on Gingeritis. Android is some trial and error before everything works just how you want it, IMO.
I was getting a lot of reboots almost non-stop from PUR3A05PTH3ORY. and I get 1 once in a while with CM7.
I know some TB's even rebooted a lot with the stock rom unrooted. My first one was like that.
I've flashed the mr2 radio and have used it for all roms and I've had no reboots
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Every phone is different, just because a certain version of a rom isn't working well for you, doesn't mean that is the case with everyone. Each phone is different in you have to find what works best for you.
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Partially true but there are common factors such as many having reboot problems with Liquid 1.5, etc.
I've had the EVO3D since launch, and recently, it has been randomly rebooting at least once a day. It seems like it's getting worse and worse, as about a month or two ago (when I first got root) it was maybe 2-3 times a week. For the first month I had the phone before root (or even temp root), I only remember two specific occasions when it boot-looped until I had to do a battery pull. So i guess you can say it happened 2 times a month back from June-July.
I really love this phone but this is just getting ridiculous. I don't know what to do from here since I didn't buy the warranty. Any suggestions? I am using SupraRom (the latest AOSP version) and TWRP (1.2 or 1.3 (?))
As I typed this up, I tryed to reboot into recovery to see what version I have and it locked up again (black screen with lights on the buttons).
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I've had the EVO3D since launch, and recently, it has been randomly rebooting at least once a day. It seems like it's getting worse and worse, as about a month or two ago (when I first got root) it was maybe 2-3 times a week. For the first month I had the phone before root (or even temp root), I only remember two specific occasions when it boot-looped until I had to do a battery pull. So i guess you can say it happened 2 times a month back from June-July.
I really love this phone but this is just getting ridiculous. I don't know what to do from here since I didn't buy the warranty. Any suggestions? I am using SupraRom (the latest AOSP version) and TWRP (1.2 or 1.3 (?))
As I typed this up, I tryed to reboot into recovery to see what version I have and it locked up again (black screen with lights on the buttons).
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I used to get it too. It stopped after I flashed (from hboot) the new radio, pri, and rpm, then updated ROM base to sense w/2.3.4 base. Try that, and of course, full wipe, sometimes random reboots is from dirty flashing oh yeah, and try making sure your VM heap is 42m or less in the /system/build.prop
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I've had the EVO3D since launch, and recently, it has been randomly rebooting at least once a day. It seems like it's getting worse and worse, as about a month or two ago (when I first got root) it was maybe 2-3 times a week. For the first month I had the phone before root (or even temp root), I only remember two specific occasions when it boot-looped until I had to do a battery pull. So i guess you can say it happened 2 times a month back from June-July.
I really love this phone but this is just getting ridiculous. I don't know what to do from here since I didn't buy the warranty. Any suggestions? I am using SupraRom (the latest AOSP version) and TWRP (1.2 or 1.3 (?))
As I typed this up, I tryed to reboot into recovery to see what version I have and it locked up again (black screen with lights on the buttons).
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I used to get it too. It stopped after I flashed (from hboot) the new radio, pri, and rpm, then updated ROM base to sense w/2.3.4 base. Try that, and of course, full wipe, sometimes random reboots is from dirty flashing
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If the above steps don't work to clear the issue, I would suggest loading the latest stock system and kernel. If you still have random reboots on the latest stock system and kernel, it definitely sounds like it could be a possible hardware issue triggering a kernel panic causing the device to reboot.
This level of troubleshooting, determining what is causing the kernel panic and rebooting the device is beyond and most users and goes a bit deeper. Generally, on a fully stock system, this would indicate a serious programming error which should affect many users, or some type of hardware flaw in the specific device.
Random reboots are hard to prove. The best route would be to take the device back to where you purchased and/or Sprint and see if they are able to help you.
Hopefully the steps quoted above by updating the firmware and software to the most recent versions resolve the issue as it could have been a programming bug on HTC/Sprint's part.
Hope the extra information and details help!
here is the reboot fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253126&page=2
download it and rename it to PG86IMG and goto bootloader problem solved
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follow the above link, then follow the link in the post. i would recommend installing the eniter zip package m the one that says nohboot, it has everything in it including the rpm update.
I've had 3 3D's, each running the same software at the time, only one ever did this. I personally think the freezing and reboots are more hardware related than not.
What's good, guys? I'm using CM10.0 (relatively)stable on my SGH-i717. I've used the bundled kernel as well as the h0tcakez kernel (currently using that) 3.0.2 and the UCLF6 modem.
These random reboots are exactly what they seem, random. I haven't been able to accurately fund a concrete reason they appear and I've done numerous swaps of sdcard, battery, radio and firmware. Everyone else seems particularly stumped on this one, so this thread is just me doing digging on a good way to read the logs from the last boot. I've tried outputting logcats to a text file on my external sdcard but I have only succeeded in filling up my sdcard or having terminal emulator crash. What I'm going to try next is take my SIM out, put it in my captivate, then plug the note up to my computer, use adb to pull the log and/or the kmsg to my desktop and use tasker or something to run some apps in a cycle to (hopefully) automate the process.
I used the search function and didn't find any threads like this (maybe in blind).
Anyone else have any good suggestions?
Wipe your phone...
I was having pretty much the same problem. I have BB insurance on it, but wanted to see if I could figure out something software wise first. Since I rooted, I've installed pretty much every i717 ROM. I finally settled on flapp's cm10 based one, as it seemed the most stable. After a week of running it, I started to get about >10 random reboots/day. I tried flashing different roms, and sticking with them to no avail. My last ditch effort was to return the phone to stock, see if it still happened, if so, bring back to BB. I hooked it up to Kies, did an emergency flash thru there to get back to stock, but couldn't bring myself to keep it stock for more than 30 seconds. I immediately rooted, and flashed ParanoidKANGdroid. I have only had 1 random reboot in the last 4 days. I'm hoping it stays the same. I briefly tried Xylon and supernexus, but came back to PK, where I will stay (for now anyway). Hope this helps.
Use kies to bring back to stock. (you need your serial number for this, not IMEI)
Root using some method from super everything thread.
Flash favorite rom and enjoy
Also, if you have to update Kies, wait for it to finish. It gets to the point where you think something is wrong and you want to throw your computer away. But after the hangups, it actually finishes the sequence....
Hello everyone,
I am a complete noob and hopefully you guys can help me out. I have tried to wrap my head around all the new android terms and my head is spinning. Anyways, I was given a HTC Sensation 4G Z710a on the Bell network. I registered on the htcdev to unlock the bootloader and following the steps, I fail to get the token. I have tried on two PC's and my friend tried on his MAC. My friend thinks the reason it fails is because the phones software is not up to date. Is it possible that it cannot get the token because the software is out of date? We tried to update the software and it fails. The problem looks like it is due to the installation of a clockworkmod. I have tried using the factory reset and the the cwm to do a factory reset and nothing has changed. Other than this, it looks like the phone has S-OFF and is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello everyone,
I am a complete noob and hopefully you guys can help me out. I have tried to wrap my head around all the new android terms and my head is spinning. Anyways, I was given a HTC Sensation 4G Z710a on the Bell network. I registered on the htcdev to unlock the bootloader and following the steps, I fail to get the token. I have tried on two PC's and my friend tried on his MAC. My friend thinks the reason it fails is because the phones software is not up to date. Is it possible that it cannot get the token because the software is out of date? We tried to update the software and it fails. The problem looks like it is due to the installation of a clockworkmod. I have tried using the factory reset and the the cwm to do a factory reset and nothing has changed. Other than this, it looks like the phone has S-OFF and is not rooted.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Kind of hard for us to tell you if the issue is the software update, when you haven't told us which update it's on. However, since the phone has already been modded, and is S-Off, that means the bootloader is already unlocked so using the HTCdev website is not needed. You can just update via a custom rom since you already have CWM.
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Kind of hard for us to tell you if the issue is the software update, when you haven't told us which update it's on. However, since the phone has already been modded, and is S-Off, that means the bootloader is already unlocked so using the HTCdev website is not needed. You can just update via a custom rom since you already have CWM.
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Thank you for your reply with the good news. This is probably irrelevant now that you said i can update via a custom rom. Under software information: Android Version; 2.3.3, HTC Sense Version; 3.0, Software Number 1.35.666.1.
It looks like now I need to research how to update via a custom rom and which rom to get. (Update. I looked into flashing a ruu and my cid is SuperCID 11111111. As long as I find a ruu that is Pyramid TMOUS, it should be good?) I am exited to be getting rid of my junky iphone. Do you have any suggestions as to what rom to get??
Messed_sensation said:
Thank you for your reply with the good news. This is probably irrelevant now that you said i can update via a custom rom. Under software information: Android Version; 2.3.3, HTC Sense Version; 3.0, Software Number 1.35.666.1.
It looks like now I need to research how to update via a custom rom and which rom to get. (Update. I looked into flashing a ruu and my cid is SuperCID 11111111. As long as I find a ruu that is Pyramid TMOUS, it should be good?) I am exited to be getting rid of my junky iphone. Do you have any suggestions as to what rom to get??
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I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
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I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
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Thank you for all your help and suggestion:good:. I am now running the Android Revolution HD.
This is a huge change from my iphone 4.
es0tericcha0s said:
I would upgrade the phone to ICS via the RUU. I suggest this for 2 reasons - 1) so you can have the newest update and firmware as just flashing an ICS rom by itself will not be a good idea as you will have issues with the touch sensors and radios (touch screen won't respond and signal issues) and 2) so you can have experience on how to put the phone back to stock in case there's an issue during flashing a rom, or you need to resell it. Once you have the RUU and know it works, then flashing roms will be much less scary as there aren't many things you can do that would not be fixable by it. You can get away with just flashing the rom and the firmware as well, but I speak with many years of experience and 100s of phones under my belt, and I know that whenever I play with a new phone, I learn how to fix it first before I learn how to mod it.
As far as suggestions, I would start with something simple and solid like Android Revolution HD. See what you like and dislike and go from there.
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Here is another update, and I am not sure if you can help. I thought everything was fine with the install, but it seems like my mobile network is not working. I followed all the steps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 except I used Clockwork Mod instead of 4EXT Touch Recovery. I looked through all the related settings and even tried changing them, rebooting and seeing if it made any changes. I also even followed the steps a second time and got the same result.
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Here is another update, and I am not sure if you can help. I thought everything was fine with the install, but it seems like my mobile network is not working. I followed all the steps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 except I used Clockwork Mod instead of 4EXT Touch Recovery. I looked through all the related settings and even tried changing them, rebooting and seeing if it made any changes. I also even followed the steps a second time and got the same result.
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Is it just data or are you unable to make calls and texts as well? If it's just data, then most likely it is an issue with the Bell APN needing set correctly. If you don't get a signal or any connection to the cell towers, then you might not have the right firmware or radio. Did you update to the last update HTC put out for it?
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Is it just data or are you unable to make calls and texts as well? If it's just data, then most likely it is an issue with the Bell APN needing set correctly. If you don't get a signal or any connection to the cell towers, then you might not have the right firmware or radio. Did you update to the last update HTC put out for it?
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:good:You are good! It was just my data that was not working, and you were right on the money. After reading your reply, I checked my APN settings and adjusted them accordingly to what my carrier states. It is working perfectly now. Thank you so very much for your help. Take care.
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:good:You are good! It was just my data that was not working, and you were right on the money. After reading your reply, I checked my APN settings and adjusted them accordingly to what my carrier states. It is working perfectly now. Thank you so very much for your help. Take care.
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I do this kinda stuff for a living. Glad all is well. Enjoy your "new" phone. :victory:
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I do this kinda stuff for a living. Glad all is well. Enjoy your "new" phone. :victory:
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I have been getting around 12 hours out of my battery with not too much use on the phone. I am running the SebastionFM Kernel. I read that I will get better battery life on the Bricked Kernel. Can you tell me if that is the way to go? I am trying to dl the kernel to flash it, but I am not sure which file to download. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668. Also, when I flash the Kernel, Is it pretty straight forward or are there settings that I would need to choose.
Thanks again.
Messed_sensation said:
I have been getting around 12 hours out of my battery with not too much use on the phone. I am running the SebastionFM Kernel. I read that I will get better battery life on the Bricked Kernel. Can you tell me if that is the way to go? I am trying to dl the kernel to flash it, but I am not sure which file to download. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668. Also, when I flash the Kernel, Is it pretty straight forward or are there settings that I would need to choose.
Thanks again.
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Depends on which rom you are using... The developer of the kernel mentioned near the end of the thread that his kernels are a little outdated for the newer Sense roms that are out there, so you might need to proceed with caution. Whenever you are flashing kernels, you should both make sure you have things backed up somewhere safe (Google, your PC, etc) as well as make a nandroid backup in recovery before flashing. It's typically recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache before installing new kernels (since you are S-Off, S-On users need a slightly different path to upgrade...). You might look into why your battery life is not as good as it could be in it's current configuration first before changing major components such as the kernel. Look into Greenify to hibernate apps while the screen is off and something like GSam Battery Monitor or Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to break down the battery stats and wakelocks as those typically cause the biggest loss of battery life.
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Depends on which rom you are using... The developer of the kernel mentioned near the end of the thread that his kernels are a little outdated for the newer Sense roms that are out there, so you might need to proceed with caution. Whenever you are flashing kernels, you should both make sure you have things backed up somewhere safe (Google, your PC, etc) as well as make a nandroid backup in recovery before flashing. It's typically recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache before installing new kernels (since you are S-Off, S-On users need a slightly different path to upgrade...). You might look into why your battery life is not as good as it could be in it's current configuration first before changing major components such as the kernel. Look into Greenify to hibernate apps while the screen is off and something like GSam Battery Monitor or Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector to break down the battery stats and wakelocks as those typically cause the biggest loss of battery life.
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I think it is my battery. I picked up an Anker and the phone is now at 20% after 21hrs. Is there a way to get Emoji to work on my phone? When people SMS me, on the lock screen they show up as a question mark in a box but when i go to read the text message there is nothing there.
Using a different keyboard will let you send Emojis, but not really sure about enabling the view from other people's messages off the top of my head, sorry. I recommend SwiftKey for a great keyboard replacement with lots of built in Emojis.
I currently have a lollipop rom version 5.1 (3.4.10-Nuk3rn3l) that has many quircks which make my DNA fairly unpleasant to use. I'd like to flash a build that is solidly reliable, even if it means downgrading.
What are my options? It is extremely daunting to wade through the endless posts of this development forum to find one that is stable.
What quirks are you having? Are you on the latest firmware and used the recommended recovery to flash? These HTC phones are very picky and can cause some undesired effects when flashing against recommendations of OP. I would assume you are running @santod040's GPE rom. His roms are pretty darn stable if installed correctly. If you did follow install procedure exactly as recommended and still have issues, try his nusense rom.
Yeah, I'd love to hear what instability issues("quirks") you might be having with my GPE port...I'm unaware of any.
Those who have issues and don't ask about them with logs or details, can't expect much.
You can always go back to a stock Kitkat Rom if the hard work of others isn't appreciated.
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Yeah, I'd love to hear what instability issues("quirks") you might be having with my GPE port...I'm unaware of any.
Those who have issues and don't ask about them with logs or details, can't expect much.
You can always go back to a stock Kitkat Rom if the hard work of others isn't appreciated.
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I appreciate all you do and it probably does have something to do with not having the most up to date software. I am experiencing a lot of little things that combine to be very frustrating in day to day use. In no particular order; I cannot send consecutive text messages without cycling airplane mode, the restart option when holding the power button has disappeared, every few days the phone will shut off and will be unable to be turned back on without plugging in a power cable (this has something to do with user input but I have yet to recognize the pattern that causes it), apps will frequently crash, the phone no longer automatically connects to wifi networks, and a few other things.
I don't know what info you would need, my kernel is 3.4.10-NuK3rn3l-dlx-GPE-Lollipop_v2.00 . Build number is LMY470.H6
I love that people are still developing for this phone, I just think a lot of this custom firmware business goes over my head.
Those issues sound like firmware outdated and some odd stuff that only an ruu can fix. Below is the most up to date ruu for this phone. Before you flash, be sure to back everything up to an external storage device (PC, USB otg, etc). After you ruu, flash the recommended recovery in the rom thread and then clean flash the rom (wipe data, cache, system). Do not restore the nandroid backup. It could be something software that is causing the app FCs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2935556
Edit: I know for a fact the Wi-Fi issue is because of outdated firmware, others might be wrong recovery, but to save the hassle, just ruu to be safe.
Do me a favor: Run "fastboot getvar all" and take a look at line three and six. I am having the exact same issues as you. My line 3 for baseband was version 1.02.01.0818, NOT the 1.02.01.0207 that the latest firmware thread stated it should be. My line 6 (version-main) was blank. After flashing the latest radio zip it now shows a 1.02.01.0207 for baseband and 4.09.605.1 for version-main. This isn't my main phone anymore so its not activated in a way that i can test it. However it may be a starting point for you. I'd be curious if you have the same radios that my phone did.