Wich is better for Games and Browse.
It's my first tablet and I don't know wich is better ?
Please help THX
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MrAmeisenbaer said:
Wich is better for Games and Browse.
It's my first tablet and I don't know wich is better ?
Please help THX
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Not sure of what youre asking.
There are 3 big kinds of archos tablet, right now.
Gen 9 android Tablets
non gen 9 android tablets
windows tablets.
If youre asking which one of these 3 is the best for playing and browsing, then its up to your taste: you can choose between the G9 and the win tablets.
I personally prefer the G9, but with the win tablet you can run everything that runs on the desktop pc, seen that it has an x86 cpu.
If youre asking which one is the better between the gen 9 and the not gen 9, of course the g9 are way better. They are faster, they mount a dual core cpu (which is good for multitasking) and the have a newer version of android (honeycomb, upgradable to ICS).
Finally, if youre asking which one is better between the G9 80 and the G9 101, well, thats up to you too.
The hardware is the same; the only thing that changes is the size of the screen. 80=8", 101=10.1".
The 101 has a bigger screen, but its more difficult to handle and to carry around. The 80 is smaller but way more easier to carry around and to handle. Plus, it costs less. Ah, another thing about the 80 is that its more difficult to find a case that fits its size (they are 7" or 10.1"!!).
I personally suggest you the g9 80 (the turbo version of course), if you wanna run almost every game compatible. And i suggest you too to find a mouse and a keyboard, because they are truly useful, in some circumstances.
Anyway, if you do not need to run every game and you are good with the less demanding games, you can choose the gen 8 70 or gen 8 101. They are older and less powerful, but paying 180 € you have a quite good tablet.
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Hi folks. Firstly, could some kind mod please create an Archos Gen9 category, and move this thread into it? You will then be beyond wonderful...
I've been looking at potential tablets for awhile, and am attracted to the Archos Gen9 devices coming out for their potential modability. I'm keen for feedback on this, and to start a discussion thread. Please post for your ideas and comments.
What interests me most:
1. They run an omap4 chipset, which is well supported (with graphics acceleration) under Ubuntu's arm port. Also, Texa Instruments, the makers of the omap chips, have a great linux community around them.
2. They have 2 x 1.5 ghz processors, along with a myriad of other goodies in their chips
3. Both the 80 and 101 models have options for a hard drive. The hard drive interests me less than the space put aside to put one in, and the sata conector that goes along with it. My hopes are it's relatively easy to open up the tablet, then switch out the drive for a fast ssd. Toshiba has a 7mm ssd drive coming out that works with a sata connection. Otherwise, a 5mm 1.8inch mini-sata drive might work, if it was packed out.
4. The last couple versions of the Archos system seem to have a developers version with it, so (hopefully) one could replace Armstrong with Ubuntu's arm port with minimal hassle. Regardless, a modified Ubuntu image should work fine with this device.
Anyone keen on this? I'd like to know your thoughts on hardware modability, and alternative software that can load on these devices. I'm looking at replacing my netbook with a tablet, and seems these upcoming Archos devices might be just the ticket. Lastly, does anyone know if the 16gb solid state drives shipping with the lighter models are likely to be soldiered onto the board, or is it possible to swap them with something else, like the ssd drives included in the eepc's and acer netbooks. Cheers.
Its way to early to create a Gen9 Forum
The Gen8ers released Early November here and the forum started december
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2. They have 2 x 1.5 ghz processors, along with a myriad of other goodies in their chips
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Well, one processor, but 2x 1.5GHz cores.
Apparently the G9 101 flash versions will only have a 1GHz chip (probably the OMAP 4430), as well as the G9 80 8GB model. The other models will be clocked at 1.5GHz, running the OMAP 4460.
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80 G9 8GB: 1.0GHz 299$
80 G9 16GB: 1.5GHz 329$
80 G9 250GB: 1.5GHz 369$
101 G9 8GB: 1.0GHz 369$
101 G9 16GB: 1.0GHz 399$
101 G9 250GB: 1.5GHz 469$
Source: https://store.archos.com/archos-p-5016.html
https://store.archos.com/archos-p-5017.html
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4. The last couple versions of the Archos system seem to have a developers version with it, so (hopefully) one could replace Armstrong with Ubuntu's arm port with minimal hassle. Regardless, a modified Ubuntu image should work fine with this device.
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Not really any reason for Archos to not include an SDE like they have been for the last two generations.
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does anyone know if the 16gb solid state drives shipping with the lighter models are likely to be soldiered onto the board, or is it possible to swap them with something else, like the ssd drives included in the eepc's and acer netbooks. Cheers.
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They aren't solid state drives. Theyr'e flash memory chips, and yes they are soldered on the board. They will likely operate the exact same way as last generation's chip, where they hosted the OS and the app storage, so they won't be replacable.
Also, it isn't way too early to start a G9 section. Most major hyped phones that come out get a section a month or so before they come out. Around next month would be a good time to start a G9 section (or start it now and have the mod for it make an announcement, and then only make a "General" section until they actually come out). People will continually post about the G9 devices here in the G8 section, because this is the only Archos section on XDA. If there were a G9 section, we could keep things separated.
Thanks for that Harfainx. Of course, that makes more sense about the flash memory chips. I still wonder how modable the rest of ths flash based units are, but think I'll be going for the hard drive versions, and pulling them apart. I'm still stoked Archos is putting in a sata hard disk to begin with, hers should be heaps more options for hacking it.
And yes, if this is the only place for people to post on XDA about the gen9 devices, this is where they will go. The fact that people are already posting means thaf we should have an area setup for gen9. Or at least have and archos area, with gen 8 and 9 under it. Cheers.
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for the new g9 forum
Hi,
I've almost made decision to buy 101 gen8 for my girlfriend as a first (budget) tablet, but just wanted to ask for your opinion. Especially for specific issues/limitations that gen8 might have as opposed to G9.
I had 101 G9 for a couple of days for testing and we liked it. But it's a more expensive option and not really offering that much more I think. To sum up differences:
1. On G8 real-use speed (processor) should be fine, not much worse than G9 I hope
2. screen not much worse according to reviews ? (apart from the angles which are told to be much worse)
3. one less usb port in G8, not a big issue (the G8 port should work with 3G stick too I presume)
4. no GPS in G9, not that needed here too
5. android version and ram available- and this might be an issue as only ICS might be available and not officially I guess -what are the clear advantages of honeycomb over froyo? I still don't know..
6. flash support- on G9 it generally worked in websites, on gen8 I'll have to mess with it I guess and the result will still be worse ? Is it a different flash version or just less working due to system ?
7. firmware/rom issues - I read in some posts there were some unresolved issues couple of months ago in G8. What is the current state of buggy-ness there considering newest updates? :/
8. anything else? battery performance looks to be about the same..
Thanks
G9 is much better, at least for me...
I had a 101 Gen8 for about 1 Year, and now I have a Gen9 80, and for me it is much better :
- G9 CPU has 2 Cores, G8 only 1
- Screen is much better
- My USB Host Port on G8 was broken after 1 Month, this happens a lot (read Forum), 3G on G8 works if you install UrukDroid, not in Stock Rom (Drivers missing)
- All G9 has GPS
- Android 3.2.1 is better for tablet, and in real Live it's true
- On my G8 101, I never had Deep Sleep, that means my Battery drains fast in Standby. That was the biggest Issue for me and the reason why I changed.
On G9 I have Deep Sleep
Have Fun...
Nicusasch
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
with new gen8 firmware
the Archos 3g dongle working on 101 gen8
yes the USB Host stops working, nothing happens on plug in USB Device.
My Last G8 Firmware was 2.4.80, and with this no Deep Sleep.
Remark : with the Cyanogen Mod from AOS, deep sleep is working, but in the Beta there are other Issues.
For a Month ago I decided to contact Archos Support about my two Issues (USB and Deep Sleep), I wrote the an Email and no arnswer until today
My Lucky was that I bought it by Amazon, I send the Device to Amazon and after 3 Days I became the Full Money Back. Since this, I am a big Fan from Amazon
With this Money I bought my new Gen 9 80...
Ciao
Nicusasch
przemke said:
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
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usb died on my 101 as well. I mainly use it for surfing, so haven't sent in for warranty support yet. To get an RMA for your device it is best to call, as they are very slow responding to mail.
Screen on Gen 9 is way better than Gen 8 101. Also, unless rooted, there is a limit on the apps partition in Gen 8, so if you want to install a lot of apps and don't want to root, you may run up against this. I am not a heavy apps user, but I did run up against this limitation. No apps limitation, in gen 9.
Also, more RAM on Gen 9. Browser on Gen 8 frequently shuts down if you have too many pages open.
The gen 8 is still a good device for the money, but does have some limitations. Btw, I have the Gen 9 80, not the 101
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
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OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
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Flash 10.3 works best on my gen8. However it is very stuttery when trying to play video from amazon. Flash 11 is worse. I am using flash 11 on my gen 9 and movies play much smoother.
You tube app on gen8 works fine.
You might look at http://forum.archosfans.com/index.php.
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
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Did you see it in real ? I'd suggest to try to see all models running before taking a decision. G2 is IPS, but I've seen one and it appeared poor quality to me, certainly not equivalent to Samsung/Motorola or even Acer
I didn't have the 101 gen8 at the same time to compare, but in my memory they feels about the same quality.
my personal feeling regarding screen quality is: Gen9 > 70 Gen 8 > 101 Gen8, Arnova G2.
Regarding processing power, don't take ARM and GHZ value as a criteria. All of them are ARM, and GPU / # of cores / SOC (I'd say in this order for Android) are more interesting criteria.
Memory is a very important criteria, 512 MB memory is good, the 256 of Gen8s are a bit low.
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(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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I've also received quite fast responses but it seems me and the (I guess french) party on the dark side kinda did not get a point together )
Hello, I bought a tablet off Ebay...I would link it but I noticed that I can't just of yet...I've googled and found out it has no name brand.
It's rooted, but I can't get the TWC app to work on it nor my daughters tablet which is an iview.
Below are the specs:
CPU Boxchip A10, Cortex A8, 1.2GHz UPto1.5G
Operating system
Android 4.0
Screen
Size 7" TFT LCD
Resolution 800 * 480 pixels, 16:9
Touch Screen Full Size,High sensitive touch capacitive screen
System Memory
Memory DDR3 512MB
ROM 8GB FLASH, hard disk storage can be upgraded to 32GB
Camera
300 000 Front camera
Communication
Wifi support WIFI 802.11 b / g / n
3G support for plug-in 3G USB interface
I/O Port
Interface high-speed USB OTG(mini USB 5pin),
HDMI interface(mini HDMI),
high-speed USB OTG(mini USB 5pin),
HDMI interface(mini HDMI),
TF card slot,
3.5mm stereo headphone jack,
DC input
It's an Allwinner A10 cpu, I was able to get the Allwinner app on the market to work with my daughters, but I listed my tablet for sale and I'm sure it prob works with it as well.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I am looking at getting the Ainol Novo 7 Elf, does anyone have any info on that if I'm lucky enough to get that?
Thanks in advance.
The ELF is a great Tablet for its price. I own one since a week. There are also some great ROMS out there. I flashed Feiyu Mod now i have full Market accses. And the touchscreen is also much more responsive.
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The elf doesn't have full market access right out of box? I plan on getting mine off eBay once I get rid of this no namer I have. Glad to hear there are some roms for it.
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The ELF is a great Tablet for its price. I own one since a week. There are also some great ROMS out there. I flashed Feiyu Mod now i have full Market accses. And the touchscreen is also much more responsive.
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The elf doesn't have full market
Specs sound good
I don't know how much developer attention this is going to see. Less popular tablets don't get the mods & roms the touchpad, xoom, galaxy, transformer & all get.
It looks like a real sweet tablet for the price. My ballpark number is under 190 bucks and all the ones you listed below I've done searches on and I can't see paying pass 200 dollars for I would love the galaxy 2, that seems nice as well but it's over how much I'm willing to spend.
Maybe one day something will be out for it. I can buy an elf for 164.95 which isn't bad with the 1024x600 screen and 1gb of ram..
Is there other tablets out there I am missing under 190 dollars that I am not seeing which would be better than the Elf?
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I don't know how much developer attention this is going to see. Less popular tablets don't get the mods & roms the touchpad, xoom, galaxy, transformer & all get.
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Hello
I plan to buy a low budget tablet and i am interested in archos 80 turbo, after i learned that nexus 7 doesnt have mhl .
So i am interested for video playback with hdmi out and from what i read g9 is doing pretty fine with that.
My questions are :
1)Is archos 80 turbo screen ok for reading?
2)I would buy the 16gb version but i dont know whats the difference with the 8 gb , which one is better?(different processors etc)
Any other comments if this device worth's buying are welcome. Also if you want to point out any other tablets about the same price that you think are better.
Reading so much things about Chromebook that I want now test by myself but which one should i buy...Acer R11, Asus flip, HP 14 ...lenovo ?
I'm loosing my mind... Could you help me to choice referring your experiences
Thanks
Asus Chromebook Flip because it has support for Android apps from Google Play Store.
older refurbs can work well
This might not be the direction you wanrt to go, but I liked the acer c720 (refurb).
Successfully ran crouton (trusty( on it (more like "briskly walked" crouton on it).
The version I had could not be reasonably upgraded from 2 GB of RAM.
I found a page about upgrading acer chromebooks, you can find it by searching for "How to upgrade the Acer C7 Chromebook" (i.r. noob, thus no link)
I then found an older c710-2834 (higher clock on previous-gen celeron), swapped in an SSD and added RAM to the spare slot.
I ended up with an ultraportable with 10 GB DDR3 and a 240 GB hard drive that actually runs crouton (occasionally even sprinting), at a very low cost.
The caveat is that the slightly more power-hungry processor along with upgrades trade off some of the battery life that the c720 had.
Whichever way you go, I hope it works out well for you.
Thanks for your answer... Asus chromebook flip is not available in France.... Only amazon us but no azerty keyboard... So the last one Chromebook out in France is Acer r11 with better CPU and same versatility.... Tablet mode, PC mode and one another.... It cost 299€
I don't know if chrome os will be fine for me but I'm searching for something different....I also saw that chrome os could be installed also under a raspberry pi 3.... So may be I could try this os under this device before buying one real Chromebook....
The new way to run android apps in native is interesting
Mchasard said:
Reading so much things about Chromebook that I want now test by myself but which one should i buy...Acer R11, Asus flip, HP 14 ...lenovo ?
I'm loosing my mind... Could you help me to choice referring your experiences
Thanks
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If you have an old laptop sitting around, load CloudReady Chromebook clone software on it. I have a Dell 3010 Chromebox and I have CloudReady loaded on an old Dell 1545 laptop. CloudReady is nearly identical to a Chromebook. At least you can get the feel of a Chromebook before buying one.
CloudReady by Neverware. Free for individual use.
http://www.neverware.com/#introtext-3
http://www.neverware.com/freedownload/
The HP Chromebook 11A is a good choice. It has got a great design and a powerful mediatek processor.
Yeah even I was reading about this Chromebook today. Great choice for budget users tbh. If you're still looking for a good chromebook, I'd also suggest the Lenovo Duet Chromebook. Both have fab mediatek chipsets and are under Rs. 26K. The Acer Spin 311 is good too.