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Hi,
I've almost made decision to buy 101 gen8 for my girlfriend as a first (budget) tablet, but just wanted to ask for your opinion. Especially for specific issues/limitations that gen8 might have as opposed to G9.
I had 101 G9 for a couple of days for testing and we liked it. But it's a more expensive option and not really offering that much more I think. To sum up differences:
1. On G8 real-use speed (processor) should be fine, not much worse than G9 I hope
2. screen not much worse according to reviews ? (apart from the angles which are told to be much worse)
3. one less usb port in G8, not a big issue (the G8 port should work with 3G stick too I presume)
4. no GPS in G9, not that needed here too
5. android version and ram available- and this might be an issue as only ICS might be available and not officially I guess -what are the clear advantages of honeycomb over froyo? I still don't know..
6. flash support- on G9 it generally worked in websites, on gen8 I'll have to mess with it I guess and the result will still be worse ? Is it a different flash version or just less working due to system ?
7. firmware/rom issues - I read in some posts there were some unresolved issues couple of months ago in G8. What is the current state of buggy-ness there considering newest updates? :/
8. anything else? battery performance looks to be about the same..
Thanks
G9 is much better, at least for me...
I had a 101 Gen8 for about 1 Year, and now I have a Gen9 80, and for me it is much better :
- G9 CPU has 2 Cores, G8 only 1
- Screen is much better
- My USB Host Port on G8 was broken after 1 Month, this happens a lot (read Forum), 3G on G8 works if you install UrukDroid, not in Stock Rom (Drivers missing)
- All G9 has GPS
- Android 3.2.1 is better for tablet, and in real Live it's true
- On my G8 101, I never had Deep Sleep, that means my Battery drains fast in Standby. That was the biggest Issue for me and the reason why I changed.
On G9 I have Deep Sleep
Have Fun...
Nicusasch
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
with new gen8 firmware
the Archos 3g dongle working on 101 gen8
yes the USB Host stops working, nothing happens on plug in USB Device.
My Last G8 Firmware was 2.4.80, and with this no Deep Sleep.
Remark : with the Cyanogen Mod from AOS, deep sleep is working, but in the Beta there are other Issues.
For a Month ago I decided to contact Archos Support about my two Issues (USB and Deep Sleep), I wrote the an Email and no arnswer until today
My Lucky was that I bought it by Amazon, I send the Device to Amazon and after 3 Days I became the Full Money Back. Since this, I am a big Fan from Amazon
With this Money I bought my new Gen 9 80...
Ciao
Nicusasch
przemke said:
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
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usb died on my 101 as well. I mainly use it for surfing, so haven't sent in for warranty support yet. To get an RMA for your device it is best to call, as they are very slow responding to mail.
Screen on Gen 9 is way better than Gen 8 101. Also, unless rooted, there is a limit on the apps partition in Gen 8, so if you want to install a lot of apps and don't want to root, you may run up against this. I am not a heavy apps user, but I did run up against this limitation. No apps limitation, in gen 9.
Also, more RAM on Gen 9. Browser on Gen 8 frequently shuts down if you have too many pages open.
The gen 8 is still a good device for the money, but does have some limitations. Btw, I have the Gen 9 80, not the 101
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
przemke said:
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
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Flash 10.3 works best on my gen8. However it is very stuttery when trying to play video from amazon. Flash 11 is worse. I am using flash 11 on my gen 9 and movies play much smoother.
You tube app on gen8 works fine.
You might look at http://forum.archosfans.com/index.php.
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
przemke said:
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
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Did you see it in real ? I'd suggest to try to see all models running before taking a decision. G2 is IPS, but I've seen one and it appeared poor quality to me, certainly not equivalent to Samsung/Motorola or even Acer
I didn't have the 101 gen8 at the same time to compare, but in my memory they feels about the same quality.
my personal feeling regarding screen quality is: Gen9 > 70 Gen 8 > 101 Gen8, Arnova G2.
Regarding processing power, don't take ARM and GHZ value as a criteria. All of them are ARM, and GPU / # of cores / SOC (I'd say in this order for Android) are more interesting criteria.
Memory is a very important criteria, 512 MB memory is good, the 256 of Gen8s are a bit low.
TjaXanK said:
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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I've also received quite fast responses but it seems me and the (I guess french) party on the dark side kinda did not get a point together )
Hi, I've been thinking about buying a budget Android tablet for a while, but mixed reviews of things like the AndyPad put me off. I now have the opportunity to pick up a used Archos 101 Internet Tablet for about £100 (so inside budget territory) but I can't figure out whether this is a gen8 or gen9 device. I think it's a gen8 as it originally came with FroYo and the screen resolution is only 1024x600, but could just do with someone who knows more about them confirming that, I'm wondering what the chances are of a newer OS coming out for this device.
Even if it's the older gen8 version, is it worth a go for £100 anyway and just put a third-party ROM onto it to get the features I want? Cheers!
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Hi, I've been thinking about buying a budget Android tablet for a while, but mixed reviews of things like the AndyPad put me off. I now have the opportunity to pick up a used Archos 101 Internet Tablet for about £100 (so inside budget territory) but I can't figure out whether this is a gen8 or gen9 device. I think it's a gen8 as it originally came with FroYo and the screen resolution is only 1024x600, but could just do with someone who knows more about them confirming that, I'm wondering what the chances are of a newer OS coming out for this device.
Even if it's the older gen8 version, is it worth a go for £100 anyway and just put a third-party ROM onto it to get the features I want? Cheers!
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this would be the Gen8 tablet, there is very little chance of a newer OS coming to it officially but there are a few projects including getting gingerbread running and also a few people are trying to get ICS to boot
Thanks for confirming that, I've been reading up this morning and it seems like while they were a good purchase a while back, I might be better off with something slightly better specced (more RAM) and with a bit more support. Now tempted by an Advent Vega which is also for sale locally, a little bit more money but better specifications and they already have a working (very well, from what I can gather) Honeycomb port, with ICS well on the way. Thanks for your response though
I think is better buy the g9 .. it's new, use honeycomb and not froyo like the g8 and... Archos have say that upgrade the g9 to ics!
Wich is better for Games and Browse.
It's my first tablet and I don't know wich is better ?
Please help THX
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MrAmeisenbaer said:
Wich is better for Games and Browse.
It's my first tablet and I don't know wich is better ?
Please help THX
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Not sure of what youre asking.
There are 3 big kinds of archos tablet, right now.
Gen 9 android Tablets
non gen 9 android tablets
windows tablets.
If youre asking which one of these 3 is the best for playing and browsing, then its up to your taste: you can choose between the G9 and the win tablets.
I personally prefer the G9, but with the win tablet you can run everything that runs on the desktop pc, seen that it has an x86 cpu.
If youre asking which one is the better between the gen 9 and the not gen 9, of course the g9 are way better. They are faster, they mount a dual core cpu (which is good for multitasking) and the have a newer version of android (honeycomb, upgradable to ICS).
Finally, if youre asking which one is better between the G9 80 and the G9 101, well, thats up to you too.
The hardware is the same; the only thing that changes is the size of the screen. 80=8", 101=10.1".
The 101 has a bigger screen, but its more difficult to handle and to carry around. The 80 is smaller but way more easier to carry around and to handle. Plus, it costs less. Ah, another thing about the 80 is that its more difficult to find a case that fits its size (they are 7" or 10.1"!!).
I personally suggest you the g9 80 (the turbo version of course), if you wanna run almost every game compatible. And i suggest you too to find a mouse and a keyboard, because they are truly useful, in some circumstances.
Anyway, if you do not need to run every game and you are good with the less demanding games, you can choose the gen 8 70 or gen 8 101. They are older and less powerful, but paying 180 € you have a quite good tablet.
Hello, I bought a tablet off Ebay...I would link it but I noticed that I can't just of yet...I've googled and found out it has no name brand.
It's rooted, but I can't get the TWC app to work on it nor my daughters tablet which is an iview.
Below are the specs:
CPU Boxchip A10, Cortex A8, 1.2GHz UPto1.5G
Operating system
Android 4.0
Screen
Size 7" TFT LCD
Resolution 800 * 480 pixels, 16:9
Touch Screen Full Size,High sensitive touch capacitive screen
System Memory
Memory DDR3 512MB
ROM 8GB FLASH, hard disk storage can be upgraded to 32GB
Camera
300 000 Front camera
Communication
Wifi support WIFI 802.11 b / g / n
3G support for plug-in 3G USB interface
I/O Port
Interface high-speed USB OTG(mini USB 5pin),
HDMI interface(mini HDMI),
high-speed USB OTG(mini USB 5pin),
HDMI interface(mini HDMI),
TF card slot,
3.5mm stereo headphone jack,
DC input
It's an Allwinner A10 cpu, I was able to get the Allwinner app on the market to work with my daughters, but I listed my tablet for sale and I'm sure it prob works with it as well.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I am looking at getting the Ainol Novo 7 Elf, does anyone have any info on that if I'm lucky enough to get that?
Thanks in advance.
The ELF is a great Tablet for its price. I own one since a week. There are also some great ROMS out there. I flashed Feiyu Mod now i have full Market accses. And the touchscreen is also much more responsive.
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The elf doesn't have full market access right out of box? I plan on getting mine off eBay once I get rid of this no namer I have. Glad to hear there are some roms for it.
cherrytree said:
The ELF is a great Tablet for its price. I own one since a week. There are also some great ROMS out there. I flashed Feiyu Mod now i have full Market accses. And the touchscreen is also much more responsive.
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The elf doesn't have full market
Specs sound good
I don't know how much developer attention this is going to see. Less popular tablets don't get the mods & roms the touchpad, xoom, galaxy, transformer & all get.
It looks like a real sweet tablet for the price. My ballpark number is under 190 bucks and all the ones you listed below I've done searches on and I can't see paying pass 200 dollars for I would love the galaxy 2, that seems nice as well but it's over how much I'm willing to spend.
Maybe one day something will be out for it. I can buy an elf for 164.95 which isn't bad with the 1024x600 screen and 1gb of ram..
Is there other tablets out there I am missing under 190 dollars that I am not seeing which would be better than the Elf?
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I don't know how much developer attention this is going to see. Less popular tablets don't get the mods & roms the touchpad, xoom, galaxy, transformer & all get.
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well im sure there are a billion of these threads but heres mine because im special :3; so pretty much i want one of these to play games/emulators so it needs to be fast (dual or quad core higher than 1.2ghz)and occasionally watch Netflix (i have a chromecast for that though) but it obviously has to have wifi, and i would really want Bluetooth with it so i can hook up my controller to it. i dont know if ram is important you guys would have to tell me if what would be the best, im not interested in putting a custom rom in it probably just rooting it. as for controlling it i sill do not understand how to control it, i see that some come with remote controllers but how would you know which one comes with one. i was thinking this one but not sure
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-CX-...qid=1388629673&sr=8-15&keywords=android+stick oh and it has to be on amazon because that is where all my money is at lol, i only got 100 bucks so i would rather not spend a little more than that. oh and i see there are some sticks that are 720p and 1080p so im not sure which i would like would the 720p be like what i stream on my tablet when im watching netflix?
anyone? im now looking at the minix series, i see that stick forms overheart so minix neo G4 looks like its out of the picture, the minix neo x5 looks awesome and the specs are perfect but i still dont know if 1gig of ram is enough, the price is right around my alley and the minix neo x7 looks great too with that upgrade to 2gigs of ram but a little over the price i wanted to spend, also i see there are mini versions of these two devices, is there a difference? or is it smaller.
Trozzul said:
anyone? im now looking at the minix series, i see that stick forms overheart so minix neo G4 looks like its out of the picture, the minix neo x5 looks awesome and the specs are perfect but i still dont know if 1gig of ram is enough, the price is right around my alley and the minix neo x7 looks great too with that upgrade to 2gigs of ram but a little over the price i wanted to spend, also i see there are mini versions of these two devices, is there a difference? or is it smaller.
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I purchased one of the stick systems a year ago and wasn't really impressed with it. the WiFi is bad and the whole thing seems flaky. In fact i was just here looking for a custom rom for it. I am looking at getting a slightly larger on with ethernet plug and multiple usb ports
(A10-A20WS Andriod 4.2.2os Dual Core 1080P HD Smart TV Box 1GB DRR3+4GB Nand Flash Streaming Media Player Android TV Player White )
also on amazon. The little one only had 1 usb port so i could only have a keyboard mouse combo or one or the other. I am also partial to being wired since i have multiple laptops, phones and tablets already on my Wifi.
Good Luck with whatever you pick
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I purchased one of the stick systems a year ago and wasn't really impressed with it. the WiFi is bad and the whole thing seems flaky. In fact i was just here looking for a custom rom for it. I am looking at getting a slightly larger on with ethernet plug and multiple usb ports
(A10-A20WS Andriod 4.2.2os Dual Core 1080P HD Smart TV Box 1GB DRR3+4GB Nand Flash Streaming Media Player Android TV Player White )
also on amazon. The little one only had 1 usb port so i could only have a keyboard mouse combo or one or the other. I am also partial to being wired since i have multiple laptops, phones and tablets already on my Wifi.
Good Luck with whatever you pick
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thanks for the advice! i was thinking of the box instead since i see that it has ethernet witch would be perfect!