I've ripped some blu-rays without any converting, just in its natural state to the prime and it plays very choppy and laggy.....I have some blu-rays that I ripped to 720p for my Acer Iconia A500 and they play perfectly...Is that my only real solution to getting the best quality video I can for the Prime?
Are you using the native player? Have you tried Dice player? It's one of the best players to use. I haven't had any issues.
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Are you using the native player? Have you tried Dice player? It's one of the best players to use. I haven't had any issues.
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I did try Dice player last night, seems like the only available version is there AD version and it had choppiness as well....I'll try it again though after work and see if there is any improvement
I'm using BSPlayer. It works great and there isn't a big ad on the screen when you are trying to watch a movie.
mobo player is another good one also
Try MX Player, I have found it to be the best free player available.
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I'm using BSPlayer. It works great and there isn't a big ad on the screen when you are trying to watch a movie.
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Ill have to try that out, hopefully it works well, I see it has support for up to ARMv7 and the prime is Arm Cortex A9 but if its working great for you then its worth a try
Thanks everyone, Im going to end up trying them all lol Ill let you know which works best or if I have to just start converting to 720p to get normal play back
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Thanks everyone, Im going to end up trying them all lol Ill let you know which works best or if I have to just start converting to 720p to get normal play back
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Also make sure they are using HW decoding n not SW. if you playback movies on prime in SW it will more than likely be choppy.
one of those apps should work well as there has been several who played back 1080P on prime flawlessly with no chop or lag.
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Ill have to try that out, hopefully it works well, I see it has support for up to ARMv7 and the prime is Arm Cortex A9 but if its working great for you then its worth a try
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I just use the free one. I haven't seen a reason to pay for it yet. Its called BSPlayer Lite
You do realize the native resolution of your Prime is 1280x800 right? Not much point in trying to play 1080 vids, brah. Just rip and encode to 720, you wont see any difference and your Prime will thank you.
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You do realize the native resolution of your Prime is 1280x800 right? Not much point in trying to play 1080 vids, brah. Just rip and encode to 720, you wont see any difference and your Prime will thank you.
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You will if you hdmi out to a 1080p tv.
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You will if you hdmi out to a 1080p tv.
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If were talking ripping and encoding blu rays your computer is much better suited to the task of 1080p playback. Tegra 3 may technically be capable, but that doesn't mean it's up to the task. With proper codecs I've gotten 720p out of a GMA 500 chipset on my old Viliv X70, fried it in the process though.
Get MX Player and the ARMv7 plugin. I use my Prime to play 10-20GB 1080P High profile Blu-Ray files (mkv's)
1080p
I've been doing video captures for my site that just getting off the ground and I use a mixture of 1080p and 720p encoded using H.264 and WMV. My bit rates vary from 8000kbps to 15000kbps and mine doesn't have any problems.
Like others here have said a.) check your player but also b.) try a lateral convert into a different file format. Not sure what you're using but something else may perform better. Lastly c.) You could downconvert to a lower resolution, which isn't ideal, but try just lowering the bit rate a bit. That may help as well.
Not sure the bit rates on Bluray.... 20-25000kbps?
Hope those ideas help
I streamed an 18gb blu ray rip of the fifth element from my laptop to the prime, played it through the hdmi out to my TV, and it was perfect. I used bs player.
>Not sure the bit rates on Bluray...
Max Blu-ray bitrate is 40Mb/s. BD ISOs are usually 30-40 total. Another factor is how well the player parses the M2TS container.
Teg3 should be sufficient for "normal" 1080p rips (10-15 Mb/s avg), but probably not ISOs. You can try and find out. Below is a video test I made for OMAP 4430, but should work as well for the Teg3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348488
Clips use MP4 to test solely for video performance, rather audio or container parsing. Use standard Android player to remove 3rd-party software variability. Suggest testing with 1080p_max and 1080p_master clips.
The max clip tests for worst-case 1080p rips. The master clip has original ISO BD video. Per bitrate graph below, the max clip will hit 30Mb/s in a couple of places, so should be a good test.
My gauge is that Teg3 should handle the max clip, with perhaps some frame drop at the 2 bit spikes. The master clip will likely cause more stutters.
Test clip downloads are in the above link, or here, http://mediafire.com/?depxt4zyvpwel (folder)
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Get MX Player and the ARMv7 plugin. I use my Prime to play 10-20GB 1080P High profile Blu-Ray files (mkv's)
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Doesn't marketplace say in description only install plugin if the actual app tells you you need to? I guess you won't know until you try to play that file.
Just like e.mote said. You are probably trying to play a 1080p with high bitrate.
40mbs+. Convert and be sure its within reasonable mbs specs. You can play
1080p video fine you just need to be sure it is of the proper bitrate. TONS of
programs you can use. Handbrake is best to convert. I have an IPAD2 and
alot of my 10GB+ bluray rips I just use Airvideo to convert. I am lazy. and
airvideo has option to just convert any .mkv to m4v. with the Airserver.
Only android program that comes close is PLEX! It can stream alot of your
1080p on the fly without convert... just like airvideo. Try it if you want to
just stream without converting.
Of course quality is not going to be the best like using a converted 1080p
and using Diceplayer! Diceplayer is the best HW accelerated program I
have used. I tried all the rest. Be sure to install the Tegra 2 plugin as well.
that could be your problem. In this setup I usually use Estrongs file
explorer to pick a 1080p from my home network. STREAM a 1080p video
within the proper bitrate specs to Dice. Works fine. Works better and
higher bitrate 1080p if I convert using handbrake and download it to
a Highspeed microSD card... play on dice... GL
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>Not sure the bit rates on Bluray...
Max Blu-ray bitrate is 40Mb/s. BD ISOs are usually 30-40 total. Another factor is how well the player parses the M2TS container.
Teg3 should be sufficient for "normal" 1080p rips (10-15 Mb/s avg), but probably not ISOs. You can try and find out. Below is a video test I made for OMAP 4430, but should work as well for the Teg3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348488
Clips use MP4 to test solely for video performance, rather audio or container parsing. Use standard Android player to remove 3rd-party software variability. Suggest testing with 1080p_max and 1080p_master clips.
The max clip tests for worst-case 1080p rips. The master clip has original ISO BD video. Per bitrate graph below, the max clip will hit 30Mb/s in a couple of places, so should be a good test.
My gauge is that Teg3 should handle the max clip, with perhaps some frame drop at the 2 bit spikes. The master clip will likely cause more stutters.
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Tested both - max and master. For me both videos are smooth without any stutter.
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My understanding is that the XDA2 BackPack has a TV output of 640x480 pixels, which compared to full PAL resolution of 720x576 (or 720x480 NTSC) isn't that far off.
I can encode a full length DivX movie from a DVD at 640x480 and it will fix on my soon to arrive 1GB Secure Digital card quite easily at superb quality. What I'm thinking is, will I be able to output from the XDA2, using the backpack, to the TV, and play a 640x480 DivX movie streaming from the XDA2? Or is the TV output restricted to applications that support it only? (Such as Powerpoint, etc)
Are you sure the XDA II can play a 640x480 movie smoothly?
Not at all; after creating this topic I've read multiple times that the XDA2 outputs 2-5fps via the backpack - I guess it only needs to create an output at that frequency when working with powerpoint presentations.
A little disappointing for a 400MHz processor, but I suppose it all comes down to the GPU, or lack of...
ya... I was looking at some benchmarks for the h6300 which included the XDA II; needless to say, the XDA II didn't do too well in the graphics benchmarks
Url ?
I think those graphic benchmarks focus on applications or games, otherwise I can't explain why the xda II is always getting bad marks. We shouldn't forget that the ati imageon chip is designed exactly for playing mpeg4, and if you got players like BetaPlayer you can see the difference when you switch the ati support on and off.
If the video is not much larger than 320x240, it can be downsized and is still running smoothly on the display. Sadly you have to reencode your movies, but it only takes one hour or so in virtual dub.
Now I think your 1 GB storage card won't be very useful when it comes to movies...
Another thing, I'm not entirely sure but I suspect the speed of the sd slot isn't fast enough to play movies beyond 800 kBit or so. So even if the cpu/gpu was fast enough, there would be no way to play most movies with variable bitrate, occasionally exceeding lets say 1200 kbit.
For those reasons, I think even if the backpack did it, I don't think you could watch movies on a big screen.
However, it's disappointing if even the 320x240 don't work, which run smoothly on the ppc display and are comparable to vhs quality. I can't test it but I get this impression from what I read here.
so is the backpack not a good investment if i wana play some videos on a tv/monitor? dose wmv make any diffrence? and would it work better on a xda 3? sounds silly but @ £60+ i wana know what ill be getting.
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Anyone know what settings to use to convert a DVD to a video file to play on the EVO3d at the native resolution?
http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc...deos_and_transfer_them_to_the_htc_evo_3d.html
I only partially agree with the article. When i convert the files i keep the source resolution. Even my Evo 4G could playback .mp4's that where natively 1080p. And before you start the "its screen cant playback above a x b resolution...", think about this...u can output upto 1080p via MHL/HDMI or DLNA. Additionally if you convert them to the maximum of the Evo 3D screen, what are you gonna do next year when your next phones resolution is higher?
Second, while its true it will playback .mp4 or .m4v...use .mp4, as DLNA streaming wont see .m4v files (old ones can just be renamed to .mp4),
Also, avg bitrate can be fine for some movies, but especially in action movies, it tends to leave slower parts of the movie in poor quality imo. I usually use constant quality and play with the setting til i get about 1.5GB or lower files from 1080p Blu Ray.
The above has worked out well for both my Evo 4G and Evo 3D
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Damn it's great to see you here Myn!!
Well i'm curious, what CBR do you end up using? 1500kbps?
Reviving this old thread since I can't seem to find a newer one that discusses HandBrake output for the EVO 3D.
I just received my HTC MHL adapter, and it works quite well. However, I've noticed that my video quality tends to vary quite wildly by video when displaying on my Sharp Aquos 37", despite looking fine on the phone.
I'd love to know what HandBrake settings people are finding work best for MHL output.
Just wondering...else I have to convert to 480p
Yes it supports 720p (and 1080p) movies.
you guys have to always remember that what it supports and what it can do flawlessly are two separate things....
720p videos films are playable but not the smoothest.
actually,For me,720p and 1080p vids played quite smoothly (maybe a tad slower than my iphone4 but nothing notable really)
Interesting, I didn't even try 720p. Good to know it works, but really it generally would be worth your time to convert. Huge waste of space if you don't plan on deleting it right after viewing.
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Interesting, I didn't even try 720p. Good to know it works, but really it generally would be worth your time to convert. Huge waste of space if you don't plan on deleting it right after viewing.
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Yup I had to convert a 2.5 gb vid from avi to mp4 and it was about 3.7gb
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Yup I had to convert a 2.5 gb vid from avi to mp4 and it was about 3.7gb
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I assume you used Zune to convert it, if the end file ended up being bigger than the original.
A properly transcoded video would be significantly smaller: a 720p video has 921600 pixels per frame, as opposed to the resolution of our Titans; 480x800. A wvga video only needs 384000 pixels per frame. Therefore a 720p video is roughly 2.4x larger than it needs to be as our screens cannot display pixels it doesn't have (and that's not even taking bit rate into account). The quality will actually be slightly worse on a 720p video because it will have to be scaled down to play on the screen, whereas a properly transcoded video would be 1:1 with the pixels on the screen.
I mentioned bit rate; I don't really know what a good marker for bit rate is, but when transcoding to a smaller resolution, you don't want to keep the original bit rate: that has to go down too. Bit rate plays into file size significantly, so in reality any 720p video is much more than 2.4x bigger than it needs to be.
I guess one of these days I'll play around with a transcoder and make a thread about how to properly convert a video for WP7.
As per thread title, Im wondering how good the Transformer Prime's screen is for video watching?
Does it also handle MKV files w/o any issues?
During my short time with it, yeah it's great. The performance is great, you can even play HD footage on power saving mode, and the screen is one of the best LCDs I've seen. Tried the only 1080p footage I have (trailer for source code) and it was lovely. Streamed some 720p footage via DLNA over wi-fi too (louis ck standup) and that was also fine. I have noticed that with some videos, audio won't play using the standard player though. You'll need a player that lets you decode audio in software if this is case, such as MX video player.
Thanks for the feedback, anyone here with a Galaxy Note or and S2 that can provide feedback.. I understand that a 10.1" screen vs a 5.3 or even 4.29 might be an odd comparison.
looks clean to me, i had a br rip of transformer 3, looked amazing on the prime.
on my sgs2 look the same, but smaller, i have a screen protector thats all scratched up, but it looks great other than that.
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Thanks for the feedback, anyone here with a Galaxy Note or and S2 that can provide feedback.. I understand that a 10.1" screen vs a 5.3 or even 4.29 might be an odd comparison.
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I have the Galaxy Note and as far as the picture quality, it is slightly better in my opinion on the Prime. Then again, it's hard to really judge in comparison to the Note due to screen size. The biggest difference to the playback is the fact that the Prime is easier to see when outside or in a bright room. It has a screen boost which significantly boosts the backlight. Drains battery fast, but looks great. Hope that answers your question
All my HD movies play fine with built in video player after I extract the mkv, convert the audio from ac3 or dts to acc, then put into an mp4 container.
Great, the no issues at all.
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MX Video Player plays MKV videos great, I play all my AVI, MP4 and MKV with no problems and they look great @ 720p
Last nite i streamed a full bitrate bluray rip (mkv @22 gigs) wirelessly to my prime via es file explorer and bs player lite. Performance was great, and quality was stellar, even during very busy scenes (the page flip at the beginning of every Marvel movie, for example).
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Sounds like its a good replacement for my note as my primary movie device.
Ive read an article that asus plans to release a 1920x1080p version of the panel with fixed wifi/bt.. sounds like its the device to get!
Does anybody have handbrake settings for converting video best for the Rezound? I tried to play a couple mp4's that I had saved on my comp but it just made the rezound freeze up. I had a video left over that I had converted using settings for the DROID X and it plays fine on the rezound but the video quality is capable of being much better on the rezound. The mp4's that I tried were 1280x544 so they should have played with maybe a widescreen bar on the top and bottom as the rezound is 1280x720p.
I haven't encoded anything myself or played around with different codecs on the phone, but I have copied some videos that play really nicely on the phone. They are encoded as follows with an .mkv extension:
H264 mpeg-4 AVC
624x352 29.97
Audio: mpeg aac (mp4a)
Stereo 48kHz
Don't know if that helps you at all but maybe it will give you a clue.
EDIT: I got the specs off the LMFAO video that comes with the phone. It has an .mp4 extension. Here they are:
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I haven't encoded anything myself or played around with different codecs on the phone, but I have copied some videos that play really nicely on the phone. They are encoded as follows with an .mkv extension:
H264 mpeg-4 AVC
624x352 29.97
Audio: mpeg sac (mp4a)
Stereo 48kHz
Don't know if that helps you at all but maybe it will give you a clue.
EDIT: I got the specs off the LMFAO video that comes with the phone. It has an .mp4 extension. Here they are:
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good way to research video encoding info
A couple videos that I have are mp4's that are 1280x544. They played great after converting with handbrake. Only thing I changed was the video codec to MPEG-4 and the fps to 29.97. The video looked immaculate although the widescreen bars were on the top and bottom on an already smaller screen. I'm trying to test different aspect ratios in order to get a full screen video.
rezound is 16:9 so that should cut down on different aspect ratios you try
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A couple videos that I have are mp4's that are 1280x544. They played great after converting with handbrake. Only thing I changed was the video codec to MPEG-4 and the fps to 29.97. The video looked immaculate although the widescreen bars were on the top and bottom on an already smaller screen. I'm trying to test different aspect ratios in order to get a full screen video.
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It really depends on the source you are using. you'll only get full screen without letterboxing/pillaring if the source is the same aspect ratio as the screen itself. (16x9, 1280x720, 1920x1080)
So when you convert you only want to change the numbers in a way that keeps the same aspect ratio as your source (just do the math to figure it out). If you change the aspect ratio you are going to squeeze or stretch the picture or you will blow it up to fill the "height" and the sides will get cropped and you wouldn't have the whole frame.
It seems you have widescreen films that are 2.35 ratio. Widescreen standard is 2.35 or 2.40. Most films are 1.85. HD is 16x9/1.78 (1920x1080 or 1280x720), SD is 4:3/1.33. So yes, they should have played with black at top or bottom or else the picture wouldn't look right. Same as on your TV. If you watch a widescreen film on your TV you will have the same letterboxing.
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It really depends on the source you are using. you'll only get full screen without letterboxing/pillaring if the source is the same aspect ratio as the screen itself. (16x9, 1280x720, 1920x1080)
So when you convert you only want to change the numbers in a way that keeps the same aspect ratio as your source (just do the math to figure it out). If you change the aspect ratio you are going to squeeze or stretch the picture or you will blow it up to fill the "height" and the sides will get cropped and you wouldn't have the whole frame.
It seems you have widescreen films that are 2.35 ratio. Widescreen standard is 2.35 or 2.40. Most films are 1.85. HD is 16x9/1.78 (1920x1080 or 1280x720), SD is 4:3/1.33. So yes, they should have played with black at top or bottom or else the picture wouldn't look right. Same as on your TV. If you watch a widescreen film on your TV you will have the same letterboxing.
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Yeah, I've learned that through the past couple years purchasing blu rays, some are just filmed that way, nothing fixes it, just got to deal with widescreen bars on an already widescreen high definition television...very frustrating lol.....although I think on a screen the size of the rezound, stretching or anything of that nature would hardly be noticeable, I converted one at 1136x544 and it was a little bit better, slight bars on the top and bottom but didn't really notice any stretching after even tho the default aspect ratio was changed
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Yeah, I've learned that through the past couple years purchasing blu rays, some are just filmed that way, nothing fixes it, just got to deal with widescreen bars on an already widescreen high definition television...very frustrating lol.....although I think on a screen the size of the rezound, stretching or anything of that nature would hardly be noticeable, I converted one at 1136x544 and it was a little bit better, slight bars on the top and bottom but didn't really notice any stretching after even tho the default aspect ratio was changed
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It doesn't need to be "fixed". That's the way the filmmaker intended it to be. They can't help it if TVs are a certain aspect ratio and can't accommodate the various aspect ratios films use. Film has been around a lot longer than television. I can assure you that the people who put in a lot of hard and detailed work making those films would hate to know people were changing them just to get rid of the letterbox or pillaring that's supposed to be there so you see the image properly.
Movie theaters use the same screen for all films they show, they just adjust the projector's output to the correct aspect ratio. They don't change the aspect ratio to have every film fill up the entire screen.
So don't worry about the black...it's supposed to be there.
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It doesn't need to be "fixed". That's the way the filmmaker intended it to be.
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LOL, you're technically correct of course but it is still annoying as hell to have a brand new widescreen tv with a brand new blueray player And have to look at black bars on the screen.
As far as movie ripping for the Rezound, I rip 5-6 discs a week from Netflix to mp4 files for my phone.
I used to use a CuCusoft app for all my ripping in my PC (along with AnyDVD running at all times)no matter what device it was going to be shown on. I have used the same app for years and it always worked perfectly, but I was never 100% totally satisfied with the results on my Rezound.
I was trying all different settings (the app has about 50 different presets) but a few weeks ago, it finally refused to rip a disc from Netflix which has never happened before.
At that point, I decided to try an app called 1ClickDVDTOIPOD which my boss swears by. I installed it and went to the option screen. The ONLY settings you can change are screen resolution (there are two settings to pick from) and a
sliding scale for quality.
I picked the higher resolution which is 640x360 and slid the quality all the way to the highest setting which is 3725 Kbps. That makes a really big file, but I have a 32 gig card so space isn't a problem. There where 4 episodes of the TV show The Shield on the disc, and the app ripped them so fast I couldn't believe it actually worked.
I copied them all to my phone and tried playing them in my movie app (I have used Act 1 for years and find it is by far the best app of it's kind). The video quality and playback quality of the files is absolutely stunning. It fills the whole screen with no black bars if I set it to aspect full. Needless to say, I am happy with the results and will continue to use the exact same setup for the foreseeable future.
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LOL, you're technically correct of course but it is still annoying as hell to have a brand new widescreen tv with a brand new blueray player And have to look at black bars on the screen.
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I'm not sure how to interpret your LOL, but I'm both technically correct and absolutely correct. But if the movie is that uninteresting that you are watching the black bars you should watch better movies!
Making every movie made fill the screen would be like having only one shape of picture frame and taking every painting and stretching it and squeezing it to fit that one particular shaped frame. Paintings and films are simply not all made in the same aspect ratio.
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I'm not sure how to interpret your LOL, but I'm both technically correct and absolutely correct. But if the movie is that uninteresting that you are watching the black bars you should watch better movies!
Making every movie made fill the screen would be like having only one shape of picture frame and taking every painting and stretching it and squeezing it to fit that one particular shaped frame. Paintings and films are simply not all made in the same aspect ratio.
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well said. good advice on earlier posts since it's been ages since I've encoded mobile video. 17 movies so that are more crispy then potato chips
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Paintings and films are simply not all made in the same aspect ratio.
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I'm not sure what paintings have to do with it, but it's never made much sense to me that all films are NOT made in the same ratio.
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I'm not sure what paintings have to do with it, but it's never made much sense to me that all films are NOT made in the same ratio.
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The shape of a painting is determined by the artistic view of the artist and the spatial needs to portray that. So I used it as an example to show that you can't just take something that was made a certain shape (aspect ratio) and shove it into a different one just because your existing frame (TV) is a different shape (aspect ratio). It just doesn't work.
The director has made an artistic choice to use a certain aspect ratio. CinemaScope, the really widescreen framing, allows more to be seen in the screen and gives the director more options in framing in which certain moods or perspectives can be shown. For example, Lawrence of Arabia was shot in CinemaScope and one of the advantages to that was that you really get a sense of the vastness of the desert with the wider screen. You just wouldn't get that in a 1.85 ratio. Sometimes it's that there's a desire to show more in the screen without having to pull out to a wider shot. There's different reasons behind it but it's usually an artistic choice made by the director.
Luckily with TV we have the ability to use letterboxing or pillaring to compensate for that and fill the empty space with black. If they didn't letterbox the film they would pan and scan it and then you really lose the intention of the director. If you're not familiar with pan and scan, what it is is when there's a wide shot and you see one character on each side of the screen, facing off, pan and scan would break that into two shots instead of one and first show you the left side/character then cut/pan to the right side/character. Not at all how the director shot it and intended it to be seen and giving the scene a different feel and the viewer a different experience when watching it. A scene that may have been filled with tension loses it with that method. So you don't even get to see the movie as the director made it just so you don't have to see black on your TV. Blasphemy I say!
For technical reasons it's also due to technological progress. As they learned how to use/shoot the film differently in order to get wider images they started using it for artistic reasons. As to TV, if everything was to be uniform we'd still be on 4:3 TVs and no one would have ever gone to HD/16x9 format. And remember, now we're mixing two formats. Films were not thought of being made to fit a TV when TV was 4:3. But now that HD scaling is the standard for new TVs you're wondering why films don't fit into that box perfectly. They weren't made for TV.