Does anybody have handbrake settings for converting video best for the Rezound? I tried to play a couple mp4's that I had saved on my comp but it just made the rezound freeze up. I had a video left over that I had converted using settings for the DROID X and it plays fine on the rezound but the video quality is capable of being much better on the rezound. The mp4's that I tried were 1280x544 so they should have played with maybe a widescreen bar on the top and bottom as the rezound is 1280x720p.
I haven't encoded anything myself or played around with different codecs on the phone, but I have copied some videos that play really nicely on the phone. They are encoded as follows with an .mkv extension:
H264 mpeg-4 AVC
624x352 29.97
Audio: mpeg aac (mp4a)
Stereo 48kHz
Don't know if that helps you at all but maybe it will give you a clue.
EDIT: I got the specs off the LMFAO video that comes with the phone. It has an .mp4 extension. Here they are:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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feralicious said:
I haven't encoded anything myself or played around with different codecs on the phone, but I have copied some videos that play really nicely on the phone. They are encoded as follows with an .mkv extension:
H264 mpeg-4 AVC
624x352 29.97
Audio: mpeg sac (mp4a)
Stereo 48kHz
Don't know if that helps you at all but maybe it will give you a clue.
EDIT: I got the specs off the LMFAO video that comes with the phone. It has an .mp4 extension. Here they are:
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good way to research video encoding info
A couple videos that I have are mp4's that are 1280x544. They played great after converting with handbrake. Only thing I changed was the video codec to MPEG-4 and the fps to 29.97. The video looked immaculate although the widescreen bars were on the top and bottom on an already smaller screen. I'm trying to test different aspect ratios in order to get a full screen video.
rezound is 16:9 so that should cut down on different aspect ratios you try
tschmid5 said:
A couple videos that I have are mp4's that are 1280x544. They played great after converting with handbrake. Only thing I changed was the video codec to MPEG-4 and the fps to 29.97. The video looked immaculate although the widescreen bars were on the top and bottom on an already smaller screen. I'm trying to test different aspect ratios in order to get a full screen video.
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It really depends on the source you are using. you'll only get full screen without letterboxing/pillaring if the source is the same aspect ratio as the screen itself. (16x9, 1280x720, 1920x1080)
So when you convert you only want to change the numbers in a way that keeps the same aspect ratio as your source (just do the math to figure it out). If you change the aspect ratio you are going to squeeze or stretch the picture or you will blow it up to fill the "height" and the sides will get cropped and you wouldn't have the whole frame.
It seems you have widescreen films that are 2.35 ratio. Widescreen standard is 2.35 or 2.40. Most films are 1.85. HD is 16x9/1.78 (1920x1080 or 1280x720), SD is 4:3/1.33. So yes, they should have played with black at top or bottom or else the picture wouldn't look right. Same as on your TV. If you watch a widescreen film on your TV you will have the same letterboxing.
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It really depends on the source you are using. you'll only get full screen without letterboxing/pillaring if the source is the same aspect ratio as the screen itself. (16x9, 1280x720, 1920x1080)
So when you convert you only want to change the numbers in a way that keeps the same aspect ratio as your source (just do the math to figure it out). If you change the aspect ratio you are going to squeeze or stretch the picture or you will blow it up to fill the "height" and the sides will get cropped and you wouldn't have the whole frame.
It seems you have widescreen films that are 2.35 ratio. Widescreen standard is 2.35 or 2.40. Most films are 1.85. HD is 16x9/1.78 (1920x1080 or 1280x720), SD is 4:3/1.33. So yes, they should have played with black at top or bottom or else the picture wouldn't look right. Same as on your TV. If you watch a widescreen film on your TV you will have the same letterboxing.
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Yeah, I've learned that through the past couple years purchasing blu rays, some are just filmed that way, nothing fixes it, just got to deal with widescreen bars on an already widescreen high definition television...very frustrating lol.....although I think on a screen the size of the rezound, stretching or anything of that nature would hardly be noticeable, I converted one at 1136x544 and it was a little bit better, slight bars on the top and bottom but didn't really notice any stretching after even tho the default aspect ratio was changed
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Yeah, I've learned that through the past couple years purchasing blu rays, some are just filmed that way, nothing fixes it, just got to deal with widescreen bars on an already widescreen high definition television...very frustrating lol.....although I think on a screen the size of the rezound, stretching or anything of that nature would hardly be noticeable, I converted one at 1136x544 and it was a little bit better, slight bars on the top and bottom but didn't really notice any stretching after even tho the default aspect ratio was changed
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It doesn't need to be "fixed". That's the way the filmmaker intended it to be. They can't help it if TVs are a certain aspect ratio and can't accommodate the various aspect ratios films use. Film has been around a lot longer than television. I can assure you that the people who put in a lot of hard and detailed work making those films would hate to know people were changing them just to get rid of the letterbox or pillaring that's supposed to be there so you see the image properly.
Movie theaters use the same screen for all films they show, they just adjust the projector's output to the correct aspect ratio. They don't change the aspect ratio to have every film fill up the entire screen.
So don't worry about the black...it's supposed to be there.
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It doesn't need to be "fixed". That's the way the filmmaker intended it to be.
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LOL, you're technically correct of course but it is still annoying as hell to have a brand new widescreen tv with a brand new blueray player And have to look at black bars on the screen.
As far as movie ripping for the Rezound, I rip 5-6 discs a week from Netflix to mp4 files for my phone.
I used to use a CuCusoft app for all my ripping in my PC (along with AnyDVD running at all times)no matter what device it was going to be shown on. I have used the same app for years and it always worked perfectly, but I was never 100% totally satisfied with the results on my Rezound.
I was trying all different settings (the app has about 50 different presets) but a few weeks ago, it finally refused to rip a disc from Netflix which has never happened before.
At that point, I decided to try an app called 1ClickDVDTOIPOD which my boss swears by. I installed it and went to the option screen. The ONLY settings you can change are screen resolution (there are two settings to pick from) and a
sliding scale for quality.
I picked the higher resolution which is 640x360 and slid the quality all the way to the highest setting which is 3725 Kbps. That makes a really big file, but I have a 32 gig card so space isn't a problem. There where 4 episodes of the TV show The Shield on the disc, and the app ripped them so fast I couldn't believe it actually worked.
I copied them all to my phone and tried playing them in my movie app (I have used Act 1 for years and find it is by far the best app of it's kind). The video quality and playback quality of the files is absolutely stunning. It fills the whole screen with no black bars if I set it to aspect full. Needless to say, I am happy with the results and will continue to use the exact same setup for the foreseeable future.
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LOL, you're technically correct of course but it is still annoying as hell to have a brand new widescreen tv with a brand new blueray player And have to look at black bars on the screen.
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I'm not sure how to interpret your LOL, but I'm both technically correct and absolutely correct. But if the movie is that uninteresting that you are watching the black bars you should watch better movies!
Making every movie made fill the screen would be like having only one shape of picture frame and taking every painting and stretching it and squeezing it to fit that one particular shaped frame. Paintings and films are simply not all made in the same aspect ratio.
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I'm not sure how to interpret your LOL, but I'm both technically correct and absolutely correct. But if the movie is that uninteresting that you are watching the black bars you should watch better movies!
Making every movie made fill the screen would be like having only one shape of picture frame and taking every painting and stretching it and squeezing it to fit that one particular shaped frame. Paintings and films are simply not all made in the same aspect ratio.
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well said. good advice on earlier posts since it's been ages since I've encoded mobile video. 17 movies so that are more crispy then potato chips
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Paintings and films are simply not all made in the same aspect ratio.
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I'm not sure what paintings have to do with it, but it's never made much sense to me that all films are NOT made in the same ratio.
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I'm not sure what paintings have to do with it, but it's never made much sense to me that all films are NOT made in the same ratio.
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The shape of a painting is determined by the artistic view of the artist and the spatial needs to portray that. So I used it as an example to show that you can't just take something that was made a certain shape (aspect ratio) and shove it into a different one just because your existing frame (TV) is a different shape (aspect ratio). It just doesn't work.
The director has made an artistic choice to use a certain aspect ratio. CinemaScope, the really widescreen framing, allows more to be seen in the screen and gives the director more options in framing in which certain moods or perspectives can be shown. For example, Lawrence of Arabia was shot in CinemaScope and one of the advantages to that was that you really get a sense of the vastness of the desert with the wider screen. You just wouldn't get that in a 1.85 ratio. Sometimes it's that there's a desire to show more in the screen without having to pull out to a wider shot. There's different reasons behind it but it's usually an artistic choice made by the director.
Luckily with TV we have the ability to use letterboxing or pillaring to compensate for that and fill the empty space with black. If they didn't letterbox the film they would pan and scan it and then you really lose the intention of the director. If you're not familiar with pan and scan, what it is is when there's a wide shot and you see one character on each side of the screen, facing off, pan and scan would break that into two shots instead of one and first show you the left side/character then cut/pan to the right side/character. Not at all how the director shot it and intended it to be seen and giving the scene a different feel and the viewer a different experience when watching it. A scene that may have been filled with tension loses it with that method. So you don't even get to see the movie as the director made it just so you don't have to see black on your TV. Blasphemy I say!
For technical reasons it's also due to technological progress. As they learned how to use/shoot the film differently in order to get wider images they started using it for artistic reasons. As to TV, if everything was to be uniform we'd still be on 4:3 TVs and no one would have ever gone to HD/16x9 format. And remember, now we're mixing two formats. Films were not thought of being made to fit a TV when TV was 4:3. But now that HD scaling is the standard for new TVs you're wondering why films don't fit into that box perfectly. They weren't made for TV.
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So if the Vibrant is only 800X480, why does a 720p movie look better than a 480 movie, it seems like the max is 480..... Also, if the Iphone 4 has 960x640, even though it looks amazing, way better than any android, it isnt actually playing a 720p video in full either is it? yes i realize how stupid that question seems to many of you. I couldnt figure out how to search google for the question. So enlighten me if you can. After you give me crap for not searching of course...thanks
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So if the Vibrant is only 800X480, why does a 720p movie look better than a 480 movie, it seems like the max is 480..... Also, if the Iphone 4 has 960x640, even though it looks amazing, way better than any android, it isnt actually playing a 720p video in full either is it? yes i realize how stupid that question seems to many of you. I couldnt figure out how to search google for the question. So enlighten me if you can. After you give me crap for not searching of course...thanks
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What is the resolution of the movie you are comparing it to? What is the format of the movie? How was it compressed? All of this and more affects the resolution of the video. If you have a 720p movie, it my be down-converted to 480 on playback, but because it was compressed at a higher quality (and maybe in a less lossy format), it's going to look better than a movie compressed in standard-definition (and more than likely at lower data rates).
because 720 is bigger than 480, the image size is bigger and usually has a higher bitrate too than a regular 480 video, so if 720 is played on anything smaller than a 720display, it gets resized (downsized) to fit the screen (without any quality loss), in this case a 480 screen. So all those pixels on the 720 video get pushed closer together thus showing more detail on the 480 screen.
a 480 video usually looks just fine on a 480 display, but since a 720 video is bigger and was meant for higher resolution screens, it has a higher bitrate which makes it store more detail than a 480 video, that's why it looks better
thanks for the replies, that makes perfect sense. if its 720 pixels i didnt understand how they could all be on a screen capable of only 480 but i guess compressing the video maintains the quality.
And to answer the questions, i just dl a movie, and drag and drop to my vibrant through doubletwist which takes care of the conversion. Although ive noticed none of the videos i download look nearly as good as default Avatar. I dl 1080/720 movies and they always have the very pronounced, large pixels when there is action and bright colors. But Avatar looks great so i guess maybe i could use something other than doubletwist and get a better quality conversion? Because the Vibrant is clearly capable of displaying fast action and huge varieties of colors like in Avatar
That said im ready for HTC/Moto/Samsung to start popping out some high res displays to rival the I4. The Vibrant has a nice screen but put it next to the damn I4 and it looks downright dull. I guess that tiny 3.5" screen next to the Vibrant's perfectly sized 4" display benefits the I4 visually as well...
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thanks for the replies, that makes perfect sense. if its 720 pixels i didnt understand how they could all be on a screen capable of only 480 but i guess compressing the video maintains the quality.
And to answer the questions, i just dl a movie, and drag and drop to my vibrant through doubletwist which takes care of the conversion. Although ive noticed none of the videos i download look nearly as good as default Avatar. I dl 1080/720 movies and they always have the very pronounced, large pixels when there is action and bright colors. But Avatar looks great so i guess maybe i could use something other than doubletwist and get a better quality conversion? Because the Vibrant is clearly capable of displaying fast action and huge varieties of colors like in Avatar
That said im ready for HTC/Moto/Samsung to start popping out some high res displays to rival the I4. The Vibrant has a nice screen but put it next to the damn I4 and it looks downright dull. I guess that tiny 3.5" screen next to the Vibrant's perfectly sized 4" display benefits the I4 visually as well...
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don't use doubletwist to put videos on your phone if they are already compatible with the vibrant, like a 720 video, vibrant can handle that..and all I explained was about the vibrant playing back the 720 video without conversion (just dragging and dropping the 720 video to the phone)
you have been playing the wrong movies or using the wrong convesion settings cause my movies look amazing, up to par and sometimes even better than the iphone 4. Have a look at one of my threads and download the video i uploaded (just drag and drop to phone don't use doubletwist or any other conversion method) and you will see what the vibrant screen is capable of.
thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780155
Thanks. Avatar looks great so I realize movies can look amazing, like you said I'm just doing something wrong. Ill check your link, thanks again
okay, ive had mine for a few days, and toggled the 3D off youtube,and of course the green hornet (which really isnt a true 3D film, and doesnt offer much depth imo, that is), that and its not that great imo, and thought blah, not that big of a deal.....
welp went to my blockbuster (oddly there is still a few left lol), and they have a resale bin picked up avatar (1.9GB), and sanctum (1.3GB) for cheap
used handbrake and anydvd to rip, to render the files down...and WHOOOOA
http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc...deos_and_transfer_them_to_the_htc_evo_3d.html
have to say, HTC has done itself a disservice in marketing, buy not supplying a better film, in better quality, and a movie actually filmed using 3D cameras..the depth really does change the viewing experience
its really changes my view of the technology, and seriously has me wanting a 3D television now...that and wishing the screen was a 4.5" qhd (I miss the width of the 4G)
anyway, of all the bad threads, thought id put up a , "this is AWESOME", thread to counter
also as a tidbit, I have mine overclocked using the temp root, and setcpu mod, @ 1.8, and it runs super smooth, great battery life (suprisingly)
only thing is that for some reason with the stock video view program, I have to toggle 3D, then 2D, then choose file, then 2D, and then finally the movie will show in 3D for those movies that I rendered with handrake
this didnt happen before I flashed the overclocking kernel, not sure why that happened
U have to toggle movies you convert... So wouldnt worry bout that
Bussin Caps n 3D
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For picture size are you using Width:720 and 480 for Max width in handbrake? Because i tired with these settings and not getting full screen, i still have some spaces on the left and right sides of the video.
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welp went to my blockbuster (oddly there is still a few left lol), and they have a resale bin picked up avatar (1.9GB), and sanctum (1.3GB) for cheap
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Did you get a 2D or a 3D Blu-ray of avatar?
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For picture size are you using Width:720 and 480 for Max width in handbrake? Because i tired with these settings and not getting full screen, i still have some spaces on the left and right sides of the video.
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Did you try 960 x 540?
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Did you try 960 x 540?
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I will give this sizing a try tonight.
Thanks.
Make sure to uncheck keep aspect ratio and change it to 960x540 in Handbrake. All my videos look awesome!
I just did Legend of The Guardians this morning(watching it @ work)...it looks bananas!!
I converted all my 3d movies to 960x540 using handbrake, all came out at around 26gb (around 20 of them) put onto my memory card and voila everything works perfectly, 3d effect is awesome and sound working gr8. No lines etc. Using handbrake it can autocrop the video and then stretch it making the black bars in the video disappear( if black bars are embedded in video) and quality is awesome, my target bitrate was ~5mbps n output size approx was ~1.5gb per film.
What is the best way to convert them to the right format for my Tab? I have no idea what formats it runs I tried to search but came out empty handed. Im sure its mp4 just want to make sure. Just got this bad boy two days ago and am simply in love with it. Thanks
thedefectkid said:
What is the best way to convert them to the right format for my Tab? I have no idea what formats it runs I tried to search but came out empty handed. Im sure its mp4 just want to make sure. Just got this bad boy two days ago and am simply in love with it. Thanks
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I use Handbrake. Love it.
Thanks man Ill give it a shot
If you search this forum for "Handbrake preset" you should find one good for the tab.
Needs to be MP4, with baseline profile H.264 video (In theory the Tab supports main/high profiles, in practice it has performance issues with main/high) and AAC audio.
Entropy512 said:
If you search this forum for "Handbrake preset" you should find one good for the tab.
Needs to be MP4, with baseline profile H.264 video (In theory the Tab supports main/high profiles, in practice it has performance issues with main/high) and AAC audio.
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I've found that, ironically enough, the best and most straightforward thing to do is to use the Apple TV2 preset included with the most recent version of Handbrake. It's h.264 at a high-ish profile that gives good quality and compression. Don't touch anything else with regards to quality or audio and you should be golden.
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I use DVD Shrink, set it not split the files, and recompress a few times to get the file size down, 3 passes usually works good for me.
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I use DVD Shrink, set it not split the files, and recompress a few times to get the file size down, 3 passes usually works good for me.
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3 pass encoding is going to be overkill. It's just a waste of time and electricity.
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sassafras_ said:
3 pass encoding is going to be overkill. It's just a waste of time and electricity.
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Not sure what you mean, each time I re-encode I can get the file down smaller (with a reduction in video quality of course).
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Not sure what you mean, each time I re-encode I can get the file down smaller (with a reduction in video quality of course).
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The best file size to quality ratio can be had if you do one encode. Re-encoding from a low quality source to a lower quality source is worse than the sum of the two. It's a terrible idea.
Rip to your harddrive with DVD-shrink or your favorite ripper, then use Handbrake to encode it once at the size you want.
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I've found that, ironically enough, the best and most straightforward thing to do is to use the Apple TV2 preset included with the most recent version of Handbrake. It's h.264 at a high-ish profile that gives good quality and compression. Don't touch anything else with regards to quality or audio and you should be golden.
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Per your suggestion I used that setting and the movie does not fill the screen, movie is Take Me Home Tonight.
We should be able to watch a movie with the tab and have it fill the screen correct?
Edit: I tried the preset Handbrake setting someone setup on here and the video ended up the same dimension on my GT. But the good thing about using that preset is the file size dropped by about 400 or so mb, went from 1gb to 600mb.
I find whatever I do for AppleTV works on Tab10.1. I up the default preset profie on two settings to 6 and 5, on video tab but can't recall the label of the fields. I know it takes more space on tablet, but I have a 32gb and it keeps me from ripping twice. Which takes up more room on my computer drive.... and since that's the resting place for 100% of my files.... 1 copy is fine.
I watch more on my AppleTV's anyway.
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Per your suggestion I used that setting and the movie does not fill the screen, movie is Take Me Home Tonight.
We should be able to watch a movie with the tab and have it fill the screen correct?
Edit: I tried the preset Handbrake setting someone setup on here and the video ended up the same dimension on my GT. But the good thing about using that preset is the file size dropped by about 400 or so mb, went from 1gb to 600mb.
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Whether or not the movie fills the screen from top to bottom is going to depend on the source movie, not the converter. If it's not filling it out left to right, then you're probably doing something wrong on the Galaxy Tab.
As far as file size is concerned, you can go to the "video" tab after choosing the ATV2 preset and move the quality slider if you want to save some space. Note that HIGHER numbers are LOWER quality (so 21 is smaller file/worse quality than 20). Find a number that gives you a size you like at the quality you can live with.
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Whether or not the movie fills the screen from top to bottom is going to depend on the source movie, not the converter. If it's not filling it out left to right, then you're probably doing something wrong on the Galaxy Tab.
As far as file size is concerned, you can go to the "video" tab after choosing the ATV2 preset and move the quality slider if you want to save some space. Note that HIGHER numbers are LOWER quality (so 21 is smaller file/worse quality than 20). Find a number that gives you a size you like at the quality you can live with.
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Cool, thanks for the tip. I realized after I posted that the film was probably filmed in a different screen format/resolution therefore black bars on top and bottom will occur on any device/tv.
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Cool, thanks for the tip. I realized after I posted that the film was probably filmed in a different screen format/resolution therefore black bars on top and bottom will occur on any device/tv.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810922/
Note that the Aspect Ratio is listed as 2.35:1.
This will always have black bars at the top/bottom of any consumer device, unless it's stretched, in which case it'll look really funky.
4:3 content will have bars right/left.
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810922/
Note that the Aspect Ratio is listed as 2.35:1.
This will always have black bars at the top/bottom of any consumer device, unless it's stretched, in which case it'll look really funky.
4:3 content will have bars right/left.
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And unfortunately, even perfect 16:9 content will have a little bit of black bars on the top and bottom as well - it's a result of the screen being just a little over square.
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thedefectkid said:
What is the best way to convert them to the right format for my Tab? I have no idea what formats it runs I tried to search but came out empty handed. Im sure its mp4 just want to make sure. Just got this bad boy two days ago and am simply in love with it. Thanks
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i think h.264 mp4 video is pretty suitable for galaxy tab, a DVD tool which is named FoxReal DVD ripper has special g tab 10.1 profile, you can get more info aobut this by clicking the link
DVD movies for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 full-screen playback
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i think h.264 mp4 video is pretty suitable for galaxy tab, a DVD tool which is named FoxReal DVD ripper has special g tab 10.1 profile, you can get more info aobut this by clicking the link
DVD movies for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 full-screen playback
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What does this commercial pay-for software do well that previous free solutions in this thread do not do as well or better?
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I'd like to clear up a little misinformation about watching movies on the Flyer after upgrading to Honeycomb.
I kept reading that the upgrade ruined movies on the Flyer because the soft Back, Home and Menu buttons are visible on the Flyer at all times. And maybe aht's tru with some apps, but if you're using the stock movie app, those one-screen buttons go black after a couple of seconds.
Yes, there's still the loss of screen real-estate on movies formatted for 16x9, and it would be nice if the movie app would auto-hide the notification bar instead of just blackening it, but the soft buttons being visible at all times is simply not the case.
Also, keep in mind that "Panavision" formatted movies don't suffer any loss of screen size, since there was a black bar above and below to begin with.
Buttons actually "showing" or not seems like a silly distinction when the notification bar is still there hogging real estate.
And the stock player is a joke for format compatibility. Several other players have vastly better compatibility. I've hardly even used the stock player, except to verify that it sucks as bad as the stock HTC player on my phone. So yes, I think many people on here are referring to 3rd party video players.
I've tried HoneyBar, after several people on here recommending it. But it seems to make some apps act wonky, so I uninstalled.
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SO let's really clear something up. Just what video format are some of you playing on the Flyer , that needs the "entire screen" ???
Facts:
1. The Flyer and View screen is 1024x600 pixels.
2. HD video has a 16:9 ratio
3. Perfect fit without distortion for 16:9 = 1024 x 576 Pixels
4. The HoneyComb system bar is 48 pixels high
5. 600-48 is 552
6. 576 - 552 is 24 pixels
7. at most, with a properly formatted HD video you are missing 24 pixels so your
8. optimum screen format will be 976x552 pixels with no distortion.
9. if you allow it to stretch to fill all available pixels its will be 1024 x 552 with a 5% vertical pinch.
10. The highest video resolution you can play is still less than 720p format which has a resolution of 1280x720. But that is the closest standard HD.
11. Playing 1080i or P on the Flyer is a huge waste of storage space since the screen cannot reach that resolution, but the hardware will decode it , if its properly formatted.
12. For optimal performance use one of the hardware supported formats.
HTC Flyer Supported Video formats
3gp, .3g2, .mp4, .wmv (Windows Media Video 9), .avi (MP4 ASP and MP3), .xvid (MP4 ASP and MP3).
HTC Flyer Supported Audio formats
aac, .amr, .ogg, .m4a, .mid, .mp3, .wav, .wma (Windows Media Audio 9)
13. If you must use a non-supported format because you don't have time or are too lazy to convert a video then you need to use a 3rd party player. Which will offer more codecs. Some will be software codecs which will work, but may degrade performance especially if you insist on trying to feed it 1080p or i.
14. Remember that some things people call "formats" are not formats, but containers, MKV and AVI for example. MKV is just a container file and can contain almost any video format so all bets are off with such containers unless you know what is actually inside.
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SO let's really clear something up. Just what video format are some of you playing on the Flyer , that needs the "entire screen" ???
if you allow it to stretch to fill all available pixels its will be 1024 x 552 with a 5% vertical pinch.
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5% is 5%. Whether this is important to you is completely a matter of personal taste. And I would never stretch any video to fill the screen, even if by 5%. Looks ugly as hell and obvious its stretched.
So what you really need is a table with a screen 1,920 pixels wide by 1,080. Which they do actually make, but I don't think it will fit in your pocket.
I think its really just more a matter of people wanting to fully utilize the screen that they are holding in their hands. Or the video image being smaller than they were used to on GB. I'll agree with you the difference is very minor. If the Flyer had always been on HC, people may not even be complaining about this.
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So what you really need is a table with a screen 1,920 pixels wide by 1,080. Which they do actually make, but I don't think it will fit in your pocket.
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Come of your fanboy horse for a second and let people rant about a real issue.
That 5% does make a difference, especially when viewing and editing PDFs heavy with text, which btw, is what the Flyer was made for.
I am willing to pay/donate a nice reward to the developer who makes a mod, ala Honeybar, that actually works with most apps and doesn't cause distortions.
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Come of your fanboy horse for a second and let people rant about a real issue.
That 5% does make a difference, especially when viewing and editing PDFs heavy with text, which btw, is what the Flyer was made for.
I am willing to pay/donate a nice reward to the developer who makes a mod, ala Honeybar, that actually works with most apps and doesn't cause distortions.
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That case (document reading) is really a wash ,since all that happened is the bar moved from the top of the screen to the bottom , taking up the same amount of space. Honeybar should work fine for that application.
Since the operating system has no support for hiding the system bar , by design, anything a developer does to hide it is going to be a hack like honeybar and will cause display problems with some apps, like honeybar does.
Gingerbread runs fine on flyer. Switch back and sup complaining about something that exist on all honeycomb tablets, and that multiple apps exist to fix. There was never any realistic expectation that the honeycomb bar world not be there.
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Sure the lose of screen real estate sucks but I like that better then having the capcitive buttons lit while watching Netflix on GB. Now if someone could kill the magic pen light.
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Since the operating system has no support for hiding the system bar , by design, anything a developer does to hide it is going to be a hack like honeybar and will cause display problems with some apps, like honeybar does.
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Gingerbread runs fine on flyer. Switch back and sup complaining about something that exist on all honeycomb tablets, and that multiple apps exist to fix. There was never any realistic expectation that the honeycomb bar world not be there.
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This site exists for developers to come up with solutions and enhancements for problems that exist with the stock operating systems. To respond to this issue with "stfu and stop complaining" goes against the very philosophy of xda.
I'm not complaining for the sake of complaining. Gingerbread had support for fullscreen apps to hide the bar. I'm simply hoping a real developer (which neither of you are) will be able to code a solution into a rom, kernel, or application. I am willing to pay for that solution.
Switching back to GB is certainly not a solution. HC is faster and much more capable in the scribe notetaking and editing fields. Thank you for your suggestion though.
you have hurt my feelings.
There are a couple different apps that remove the bar. Lee Droid, a real developer has enabled hw buttons. I would not hold my breath waiting for another solution. Also since ics uses a similar bar I guess in general you will be dissatisfied with Android moving forward. The bar is part of honeycomb. I remove it for videos and video games, otherwise it is a welcomed addition
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I think its really just more a matter of people wanting to fully utilize the screen that they are holding in their hands. Or the video image being smaller than they were used to on GB. I'll agree with you the difference is very minor. If the Flyer had always been on HC, people may not even be complaining about this.
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Believe me, I would prefer to have the hardware buttons enabled also, as ICS is rumored to allow. In order to maintain the correct aspect ratio on 16x9 movies, the Flyer's stock player shrinks the image horizontally as well as vertically so you do lose a fair amout of screen real-estate. But the reason I started this thread was beacase I had read many posts in this forum that complained about the Honeycomb soft buttons being visible while watching movies, but neglected to mention that the stock player darkens them so its not an issue.
In my case, the stock player works fine for me. That's because I have over 200 DVDs that I've digitized as H.264 MP4's using DVD Catalyst 4, and they play just great with the stock player. And that's all I really need. I'm sure there are others in my position.
I'd hate to think that there are folks who will avoid the Honeycomb update due to being misinformed, as I was. That's because the Honeycomb update brings so many other killer features. I've been doing a lot of typing on my Flyer using a bluetooth keyboard (tablets are for content consumption only? LOL! Not mine!!!) and having the up,down,left,right arrow keys map correctly in landscape mode is just fantastic. Also, having the pen available in all my apps is awesome. As i noted in a different thread: it's just crazy, ironic and frustrating that HTC killed off this marvelous tablet at the very same time that they released the Honeycomb update that really makes it shine!
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. As i noted in a different thread: it's just crazy, ironic and frustrating that HTC killed off this marvelous tablet at the very same time that they released the Honeycomb update that really makes it shine!
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I agree with you other comments and share the love, but HTC didn't kill the Flyer, production of the Flyer was done and finished and over back in June. This is common and typical. HW makers do a production run of as many of an item as they think they can sell and then move on to the next product. They cannot afford to idle a production line and wait and see. In the case of the Flyer and View, HTC made way more than they could sell at their target price of $500 ++ and closed out the remaining stock at below cost. A common practice. Nothing crazy about it, simple business decision. They could not produce more at a price they could sell for a profit.
All,
The one thing irritating me about the V30 is the screen during YouTube... The 18:9 resolution is a issue... .. YouTube has a pinch to zoom thing to fix this issue for full screen videos scaling properly... Samsung crops the videos... Is there something we can do for the LG V30?
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Sean
What exactly is the issue here?
I've read your post 5 times trying to look for the problem
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What exactly is the issue here?
I've read your post 5 times trying to look for the problem
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Umgh the issue is there are black bars in the full screen videos in Youtube as the videos are 16:9 aspect ratio and V30 is 18:9... Samsung has a fix for the S8 which has a similar aspect ratio of cropping the video to fit the screen... Youtube's app supposedly fit videos to the screen with a pinch to zoom for 18:9 aspect ratio phones but doesn't seem to be working for V30.... Asking if anyone has a solution to this...
This pinch to zoom (or rather crop?) feature seems to be exclusive to the Pixel 2 XL at the moment.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/screen-youtube-t3583449
This works for the v30
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/screen-youtube-t3583449
This works for the v30
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Sorry, what method in that thread exactly works? I see people talking about a hidden menu, but I couldn't get that to activate, and I also see people talking about a modded YouTube. app. Which one did you mean?
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Sorry, what method in that thread exactly works? I see people talking about a hidden menu, but I couldn't get that to activate, and I also see people talking about a modded YouTube. app. Which one did you mean?
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The last couple of pages explaining the 2 apk files (modded YouTube app)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/screen-youtube-t3583449
This works for the v30
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Thanks for this! Now if we could only get hdr support.
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What exactly is the issue here?
I've read your post 5 times trying to look for the problem
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basically he dislikes correct aspect ratios on the video and wants the video to fill the entire messed up ratio of the physical screen cause he doesn't like black bars.
it's the equivalent of "stretching" a 4:3 image to fit full screen on a 16:9 TV.
I've never comprehended why people prefer this. The video aspect ratio is how it was recorded. doing anything to it either crops out part of the image (old pan and scan style) or distorts the image making circles into ovals and such.
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basically he dislikes correct aspect ratios on the video and wants the video to fill the entire messed up ratio of the physical screen cause he doesn't like black bars.
it's the equivalent of "stretching" a 4:3 image to fit full screen on a 16:9 TV.
I've never comprehended why people prefer this. The video aspect ratio is how it was recorded. doing anything to it either crops out part of the image (old pan and scan style) or distorts the image making circles into ovals and such.
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Well it's a matter of personal preference. Some people want to watch content as it was meant to be, others want the full screen experience. Personally I would never stretch as it causes too much distortion, but I don't mind crop...for me the small loss in the edges of the picture is worth the more immersive experience. I do this on my PC monitor as well, I have an ultra wide monitor (21:9) and crop most 16:9 TV shows to fill the entire screen. I know some people would disagree, but who cares to each his own lol.
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Well it's a matter of personal preference. Some people want to watch content as it was meant to be, others want the full screen experience. Personally I would never stretch as it causes too much distortion, but I don't mind crop...for me the small loss in the edges of the picture is worth the more immersive experience. I do this on my PC monitor as well, I have an ultra wide monitor (21:9) and crop most 16:9 TV shows to fill the entire screen. I know some people would disagree, but who cares to each his own lol.
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absolutely it's personal preference, I don't fault you or anyone for that. Do what you like.
I've just never understood why filling a screen fully at the expense of lost information from the video is worth it. Even zooming in and cropping (no stretch) isn't benign. If the video is a certain resolution and aspect ratio, zooming and cropping misaligns the image's pixels to the screen's pixels causing a slight blurring. On a small mobile screen you'll likely not notice without grids and reference points though.
It's just the tech geek in me. Overscan is my bane... living through the age of curved CRTs and 16:9 movies chopped down to 4:3....gross... along with my arcade machine collection constantly fighting image geometry over the years...bleh. we finally get flat screens with one to one parity with the displayed images and then we back track to curved and cropping out things again. Lol.
You can do whatever... I'm just saying I'll never get it, lol.
New version fixes it. I tried and it works as intended.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/1...ngs-pinch-zoom-devices-like-galaxy-s8-lg-v30/
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New version fixes it. I tried and it works as intended.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/1...ngs-pinch-zoom-devices-like-galaxy-s8-lg-v30/
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Hey, awesome, thanks!
Got the update last night and you're right, as advertised, pinch to fill works!
https://youtu.be/8y7XGmORIXM
As an example of the preceding discussion, any V30 owner can now easily see for themselves the tradeoff of filling the screen.
Watching Electroboom's latest video, where he's ranting about YouTube demonetization, when I pinch to fill I cut off his forehead and his pants. Nothing is "stretched." (Also, "pan 'n scan" is the incorrect term to use here -- that's when a film is shot in a wide aspect ration but cut down, say for a 4:3 television, and since both characters can't fit on the narrower aspect ratio screen the view virtually "pans" between the two characters, whereas in the theater they'd both fit on the wide screen and there would be no panning.)
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New version fixes it. I tried and it works as intended.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/1...ngs-pinch-zoom-devices-like-galaxy-s8-lg-v30/
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Nay Tyzon said:
Hey, awesome, thanks!
Got the update last night and you're right, as advertised, pinch to fill works!
https://youtu.be/8y7XGmORIXM
As an example of the preceding discussion, any V30 owner can now easily see for themselves the tradeoff of filling the screen.
Watching Electroboom's latest video, where he's ranting about YouTube demonetization, when I pinch to fill I cut off his forehead and his pants. Nothing is "stretched." (Also, "pan 'n scan" is the incorrect term to use here -- that's when a film is shot in a wide aspect ration but cut down, say for a 4:3 television, and since both characters can't fit on the narrower aspect ratio screen the view virtually "pans" between the two characters, whereas in the theater they'd both fit on the wide screen and there would be no panning.)
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Indeed, I have just updated Youtube and it works perfectly for me.
Thanks folks for your help with this
For the ones like me that want to keep aspect ratios as they are, they can always look for "21:9" or "18:9" clips on YouTube, they will fill their screen all right without distortion.
Today's Youtube app update has the pinch to zoom feature.