if so.. how is the Razr's camera compared to the Inc? i happen to like the Inc's camera (except for the crappy low light shots), but from what i've been reading, the Razr's camera isn't that good. any opinions are appreciated. thanks!
radiohead14 said:
if so.. how is the Razr's camera compared to the Inc? i happen to like the Inc's camera (except for the crappy low light shots), but from what i've been reading, the Razr's camera isn't that good. any opinions are appreciated. thanks!
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I came from an incredible and the camera seems no different to me.
Sometimes I wish I had kept the incredible because of all the developer support.
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I upgraded from a dinc...I'm with you on the support but more than happy with this phone lol. Only thing i realized was that the colors seemed a little more blue in tone? Like colder colors but with a little tinkering I found i like the camera better on the RAZR.
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I upgraded from the dinc. I had the FX camera from Amazon and installed on this phone. Works well.
The locked bootloader is a real down side for the Razr. I like the phone but glad I have still have a few days to trade.
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thanks guys. i managed to try out the Maxx after work and took a couple of shots with both my Inc and the Maxx... i didn't think that there was much of an increase in photo quality, if any at all. it was actually easier to take more focused shots with the Inc. i'm not sure if i missed it on the settings, but i also didn't see a touch to focus on the Maxx. that's one of the things i like about the Sense camera, as the touch to focus also adjusts the exposure when shots are taken that way. i really wanted to like the Maxx, as that battery life sounds amazing, but i might just wait to see what MWC has in store. i appreciate the inputs tho.
radiohead14 said:
if so.. how is the Razr's camera compared to the Inc? i happen to like the Inc's camera (except for the crappy low light shots), but from what i've been reading, the Razr's camera isn't that good. any opinions are appreciated. thanks!
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Camera is about the same indoors. The Razr camera is better, but not by a huge amount. It's especially better in the 2.3.6 leak. But, it's still a cell phone camera. Outside in good lighting it does very well. Video is definitely better on the Razr. Video outdoors in good sun is great.
The phone is so much better than the Dinc though. I can actually make calls in places I couldn't before. Plus the screen is much better. The size is definitely awkward the first day or two, but you soon get used to it.
I'm sitting here contemplating going to Verizon and picking up the Maxx. My Incredible is a lil' long in the tooth and the battery life on the Maxx sounds like it might be too good to pass up.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind having the G Nex screen, but I really like the looks of the Razr. I'm sure I'll miss Sense (I'm one of the few who cannot stand vanilla android), but I think it might be worth the trade off. My brother has the Razr and loves it. I think I'm asking for too much hoping that HTC will come out with a thin phone with decent battery life.
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Does anyone know that the RAZR maxx has the f/2.4. Just seems hilarious that the selling point on other phones like the iPhone 4s is the aperture and it's never mentioned on the maxx. The iPhone 4 has the f/2.8.
I think the rezound I previously had was the f/2.2. I dunno, nitpicking I guess
regular RAZR have f2.4, too...
this means that better quality pics in dark enviroment would be possible, but unfortunatelly on my RAZR this is not case.
shutter speed is WAY to slow (1/15 - 1/17) and 99% of pics are blurry
so is there any way to control these parameters (shutter speed, ISO)? - because factory presets are really bad
PS. can anyone with ICS post some pics in low light enviroment, so that we can check EXIF data
thx!
My maxx has taken fantastic pics. And extremely fast. Once its focused if u can keep the box green its instant shutter on mine. If u haven't, turn flash off. It takes faster pics. I rarely need flash.
My wife has an epic touch gs2 and I am more impressed w the maxx camera every day. I usually compare everything to her phone lol.
I know, there are a lot of threads about that and I read them! They are all outdated, they were written when razr had GB and nexus was on ICS.
What about now? RAZR has ICS and Nexus has JB.
I may have the opportunity to sell my RAZR (it has scratches, I hate my dog -.-" ) for 300€ and buy a new Nexus for the same price.
Do you think this is a good idea?
I'd say yes. The nexus screen looks much crisper and better, especially white text and things like that. Also for me the big selling point of the razr was the 8mp camera, but I find the Nexus takes better pics, mostly because I find the razr to have dull colors in the pics
Thanks! Someone else?
Depends on what matters to you…
The razr is a great phone, best radio, best sound quality, bright display, nearly indestructible and completely reliable. Sports a nice set of helpful extra functionality. Display is lower resolution and pentile, thus not as crisp as the nexus, still consider it much better (see below).
The nexus has the latest android version, and is open to custom roms. The display is higher resolution, but very dim, awful at low brightness (smudgy), and colours are completely off (yellow tint and gamma is a mess). The latter can be corrected to some degree with custom kernels. No SD card and only mtp. Battery life is short, but can be remedied by swapping batteries. Build quality is ok, but nowhere compared to the razr.
To put it simple, for me the razr is a great tool, the nexus a fun toy.
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Actually just received a Galaxy Nexus myself yesterday, and thus far, I pretty much agree with both of the above posts. Build quality-wise, the RAZR feels more solid, obviously much slimmer in the hand, and is lighter than the Nexus without feeling cheap. However I am surprised by the Nexus' build quality, it's not anywhere near as plasticky feeling as some previous Samsung phone's I've felt...there's no hollow creakiness to it when you hold it and it feels hefty. The only disappointment comes when you pry off the battery cover...it's one incredibly cheap cover.
The RAZR has considerably better sound quality, the speaker is much louder...in fact I believe the RAZR has one of the loudest loudspeakers period out of any phone out there. The Nexus on the other hand is much, much quieter...I'd say too quiet for the most part. I use speakerphone mode a lot for calls so this matters to me and is almost a deal breaker on the Nexus.
The Nexus does have a sharper screen, but I find the RAZR's screen gives more of that eye popping and color saturated AMOLED look, which you either love or hate. I find both screens are horrible at rendering white, and both look very yellowish if you use Auto-brightness. I thought the Nexus' 720 display sharpness would be night and day different to my eyes, but it's really not in day to day usage. More and more though I'm starting to realize I don't much care for AMOLED screens and would probably want a regular LCD for my next phone, the whites bother me quite a bit and I do get bothered by the heavy blue or green tint they pick up as you view the screen at off angles.
I haven't taken pics yet with the Nexus, but just from what I saw in the camera app, the camera seems to be much better at auto-focusing. I find the RAZR's focusing to be difficult to work with, and the picture quality is not that great.
Jelly Bean is indeed more fluid and smooth, but you'll still run into the occasional stutter here and there. More annoyingly is I'm already running into apps that won't work right on it. So expect to go through your usual headache period of apps not working, until developers catch up to updating their apps for Jelly Bean.
On the development front, there's a tremendous difference, the Nexus is indeed a developer's phone and it shows in its developer forum. I'm amazed at just how comprehensive the Nexus toolkit is that lets you bust open the phone effortlessly compared to any other phone...totally an all in one stop for rooting, bootloader unlocking, custom recovery, etc. The amount of available ROMs is also insane and make's the RAZR's totally a laughable joke in this regard.
In the end I'd agree with the sentiment that the RAZR makes a better day to day phone, while the Nexus makes for a better side toy to mess around with and install new stuff on.
Hey guys. Sorry for the hijack. This is really interesting as I am thinking of a gnex myself. Or a sgs3 if i can afford it.
Thanks for the thoughts.
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I've reconsidered! I'll keep my razr. It's a great phone after all and jelly bean is not enough to justify the change. Thanks to all of you!
Just a few comparisons of the dna vs gs3 since I have both.
Screen...Dna not as colorful, but probably more realistic. It also has crisper text. I thought it would be a drastic difference, but to my disapointment its not.
Camera...Outdoors both are comparable, cant tell the difference. Indoors is another story. DNA is not very good. Another disapointment.
Build quality...While I have no complaints against the GS3, the DNA is much better.
Signal....DNA is better.
Battery...DNA is about the same as GS3.
UI...Im suprised here, but I like TW better.
So, both are great phones, but im not sure if I will keep the DNA.If you have the gs3...I dont think its an upgrade. Im thinking of exchanging it for the Note 2.
I'm in the same boat. I had the S3 and gave it to the Spouse to get this.....but I'm not impressed with the camera. I use my camera daily as a P&S so I don't have to take a dedicated camera with me....so yeah-I buy Smartphones with the camera in mind. The pics from my S3 just seemed sharper and had better color reproduction. The only thing I can honestly say about the DNA....the build quality rocks on this thing and the screen is beautiful. I'm going to "try" and love this thing, but if I can't get over my hangups with it, I'm returning it, the wireless charging pad, and getting the Note2 on the 29th, which falls well within the 14 day exchange window. It's just personal preference....what works for you, may not work for me, and vice-versa.
I also like the DNA, but I really don't want to go back to Sense and the phone is a bit too big for my taste.
Thinking of checking out the GN2 when it comes out (I know it's even bigger) and getting it or the Razr HD. I don't use the camera much, so not too worried about it on the Razr.
Also, the specs on the HD are weak, but I am not sure how much that matters on terms of actual performance.
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Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
hatyrei said:
Hi guy's,... I thought the camera was good until i view it on my computer...it's kinda granny with lots of noise... it looks good in the 1080p display but not on FB or in my computer rofl. I guess something is really wrong with the camera.
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Welcome to mobile cameras, they all throw pixel count at you when what they really need are better sensors. I have NEVER had a phone camera take pictures that didn't have tons of noise and look like complete **** on a decent monitor. In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
Agree^^
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In my experience thus far, this camera is no different than others I've seen.
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Can you compare to Maxx HD?
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Great minds think alike．
Disagree.. maybe its your laptop... The pics from my rezound look awesome on my laptop
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Nokia has killer cameras. Even the old models, wish others would follw them
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Have been playing with the camera all day today. Compared to iphone5 this shows lot of noise especially in low light. When cmpared to gs3, noise is marginally higher in low light photos. Under good light conditions, this seems to produce most faithful color reproduction.
Just my observation
Yea, I just compared gsiii and DNA cameras, I think gsiii is better most of the time, but not in color reproduction. But honestly, they are both awful. :thumbdown:
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
Well, what do you expect from a phone's camera? Whatever the camera's hardware is, if 90% of its settings are controlled automatically, the result is most probably going to suck. In a darker scene, this phone's software may want to bump the ISO higher than another phone's software, hence this noise and lack of detail. But anyway, a different camera app and you knowing how to use it will most probably show better results.
For me, a cellphone's camera is not much more than a barcode scanner.
Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
Some comparisons
Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
ilogik said:
Damn... I was going to pick up that phone today but after seeing these pics I don't think I am. A good camera is very important to me, maybe I'll get the Lumia 920 instead...
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Don't forget-I was NOT really holding the camera steady (Tipsy), but my spouse had my S3 and the DNA's pics actually look better in those low-light shots than on the S3. I need to go to the Conservatory and take some daylight shots of all the tropical plants. THAT'S where I usually take my dSLR and even when I took the S3 there, the pics came out great,popping colors, etc.... Let's see how the DNA can handle those.
The difference is amazing!!!
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I just downloaded camera 360 from the market, and its so much better than the stock camera.
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I just downloaded the Camera 360 Ultimate from the Play Store and the difference is very, VERY noticeable. EVERY DNA owner needs to switch immediately. It's COMPLETELY a software issue. I'll be testing other camera apps right now, but this was a drastic improvement!!!
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I went downtown Detroit last night after Dinner, and even though I said that the S3 Camera is better, I'll retract my statement (different thread) after taking some low lights pics. The Low Light Pics on my S3 looked horrible.....but was pleasantly surprised by this camera. I attached a few pictures to show that the pics in low light actually look pretty damn good, especially since it was taken with a Phone, and I was a bit tipsy after drinking too much at Dinner (hands weren't exactly steady).
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On my monitor those pictures look absolutely horrible, grainy and pixely. Are you using a stock camera or a 3rd party one?
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Exactly. Phone cameras will always suck compared to a quality Point&Shoot. Smaller sensor, few manual settings, and software made by phone manufacturers, not Canon/Nikon. It's fine for a decent landscape shot or portrait on a sunny day but some people just have ridiculous expectations.
People spend thousands of dollars on camera equipment that works well in low light or for fast action. Maybe the iPhone 5 is marginally better than this, but I've played with my family's new iPhones and IMO the camera is still just a phone camera. If I wanted to take a good picture I'd bring something else.
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Well no camera will ever be like buying a nikon but getting normal point&shoot quality pics isn't much to ask for, nokias are able to achieve it, seems to be just a part of the phone being skimped on. Nothing to stop me frfom buyin though, they are "good enough"
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Some people didn't like my review of the DNA saying that I was too harsh on the 1080p 440ppi display. How could it possibly be worse than the 720p S3 panel? Well, I think these will speak for themselves:
First a short video shot by an iPhone 4S...DNA vs S3 playing Underworld Awakening. It's a bit hard to show how much the S3 dominates because it's a video of video playback, but the most accurate part is when Selene and Michael are kissing. You can see the skin tone is MUCH better:
http://db.tt/Z597Hcuc
Then the friend with the iPhone 4S and I went out and took some shots. He's taller than me, so the angles are a bit off, but you get the idea. 4S is on the left, DNA on the right:
http://db.tt/edmZQvMD
http://db.tt/cBAcLDwo
http://db.tt/9sHcE6yO
http://db.tt/hORDltQq
http://db.tt/G3pabYog
As you can clearly see, the DNA gets smoked when it comes to color and brightness. Either I have a bad panel or sensor or this camera/video playback is just simply inferior right out the box.
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Dude, something is definitely wrong with your lens. Half those pictures look flat out BLURRY. There are a bevy of example shots from the DNA, just google some and take a look. I'd upload some of my own if it werent for the fact they're already out there. Those pictures you took look like something my 2001 blackberry pearl took.
These phones both have great cameras in daylight. There doesn't seem to be enough of a difference to be a reason for wanting one over the other. I had read in reviews that the Note 2 performed better in low lighting, but never found comparison shots. Well, my brother-in-law and I just took some for anyone who may wonder. These were taken at the same time, so the lighting was the same. We also had all our settings at auto, besides the flash being off. The Penguin has a 100 watt equivalent cool white bulb in it so it was very bright, the polar bear is very dim.
The Note 2 definitely handled the bright penguin better. The DNA won in the last picture in color of the light, etc. In the polar bear picture, if you combined the fence coloring of both images, you'd get what I see with my eyes.
First, the DNA
Note 2
Happy to see that the Note 2 is just as good if not better.
The left most picture looks better on the Note to me while the right most looks better with the DNA IMO. Hard to tell which is better without comparing it to the reality I guess.
Just updated the first post describing how we felt. Unfortunately, we don't have a good camera as a third comparison.
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Happy to see that the Note 2 is just as good if not better.
The left most picture looks better on the Note to me while the right most looks better with the DNA IMO. Hard to tell which is better without comparing it to the reality I guess.
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Are you looking at the same pictures we are? The DNA images look better than my Note 2, along with my personal experience also. I have both phones, but I think the DNA wins hands down from what was posted.
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Are you looking at the same pictures we are? The DNA images look better than my Note 2, along with my personal experience also. I have both phones, but I think the DNA wins hands down from what was posted.
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I don't know about that. With bright lights that are directed toward the camera, the Note 2 does a better job. The penguin looks much better with the Note 2. Maybe we'll do a shot or two with car headlights on tomorrow.
This was taken at the zoo at night. It's light projected onto a rock wall. Was completely dark outside. I was the only person to get it with my phone easily. Everyone one else out there was struggling or using dslr camera
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is it just me or are this attachments not showing up?
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looks to me that the note beats the dna on all of them but the 4th pic
Wickedares said:
is it just me or are this attachments not showing up?
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looks to me that the note beats the dna on all of them but the 4th pic
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this is what I see aswell!
I'll call it a draw overall
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I agree that the last pic DNA dealt with the light better.
I had both....gn2 was much better indoors, but the DNA was much better outdoors.
need 100% crops and better controls
I have had both in the past month and can say that camera is one if the reasons I returned DNA. It was good bit not equal. IMO as I take a huge amount of pics if my 2 lil girls. Everything is subjective and settings are a huge variable but both are amazing devices. Other reasons - expandable memory and exchangable battery - were the deal breakers but I did feel slighted by DNA cam. That being said... both were heavy hitters
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The last pictures look relatively equal to me, though the Note 2 could have been affected by the light coming in from the left side a little bit, which isn't visible in the DNA pic. From the looks of it, the Note 2 does better in low light with a single bright source, but in very low lighting, the DNA is better. In reality, I wouldn't use any smartphone to take dark or low-light shots, and would even avoid it if possible on a standard point and shoot.
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Are you looking at the same pictures we are? The DNA images look better than my Note 2, along with my personal experience also. I have both phones, but I think the DNA wins hands down from what was posted.
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dont quit your day job for photography please. lol