I had in past Venue Pro unlocked and it was with t-mobile before unlock.
Now i bought a Venue, it was with ATT..
My question is, in Mexico, using both phones, Venue Pro was not able to get 3G, and Venue does... Venue Pro was flashed with Mango and last firmware updates, but i remember when i installed last firmware to Venue Pro, i couldnt make calls...i remember i had to go back firmware 212 if im not wrong... with Venue, i get 2G, EDGE, 3G, everything with no problems...
I plan to go back Venue Pro... is there an issue with software or dell updates which cause this problem?
If the Venue Pro was T-Mobile bands and the Venue is AT&T bands I think you have your answer right there. The 3G bands are different.
Thanks for the reply... in reality, the Venue, before get unlocked, was in a dual mode, Tmobile and ATT, tought, not sure, still so, you are right, now the question is, how can i select what kind of bands to set in the phone? I know its a configuration properly from the carrier, but no way to modify them in "user mode" ?
Locking or unlocking doesnt change the supported 3g bands. It's physically impossible to change it without swapping hardware.
The VP should at least support 2g/edge speeds if the right carrier's sim card is used and it's unlocked, also if it's the VP that's giving issue you're more likely to find answers if you post in the VP forum
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I have a unlocked Dell Streak with T-mobile service. I am unable to get 3G service only Edge is working. Is this normal with unlocked phones. Anyone have the same problem?
where did you buy your streak from? if it's not an AWS model you cant get 3g from TMO
Frequency Bands
If the phone was built for AT&T then your SIM card will allow use on TMO, bue thr radios will not tune UMTS/HSDPA properly. You will be stuck with Edge until the merger.
Dell Streak now works with 3G from T-Mobile
c15357 said:
I have a unlocked Dell Streak with T-mobile service. I am unable to get 3G service only Edge is working. Is this normal with unlocked phones. Anyone have the same problem?
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Do the following if you really need 3G service from T-Mobile on your Streak originally from AT&T:
1. Sell it!
2. Buy a Dell Streak locked to Cincinnati Bell because their version works with 3G on T-Mobile!
3. Unlock it (check article on unlocking Cincinnati Bell Streak). DON'T forget your rebate!!
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I have a unlocked Dell Streak with T-mobile service. I am unable to get 3G service only Edge is working. Is this normal with unlocked phones. Anyone have the same problem?
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I am not quite sure, but I used an unlocked ATT streak with my Local provider and the 3G was working, just check with T-Mobile how to configure the Access Point Network (APN).
In dell streak you can find it in below path:
Setting >> Wireless & Network Settings >> Mobile Network Setting >> Access Points Names.
Hello, I have a unlocked Dell Streak, i don't whant open new theme, that's why I write here.
Baseband Version of my Streak : GAUSB1A134700-US
I whant unofficial update my Dell to Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread. As i know there is only StreakDroid 2.0.0 built on these version of Android? Maybe someone know performance in StreakDroid 2.0.0 better then in 347? What about playing games is it better?
Also before update I whant make BackUp of my firmware, give me please link to Instuction or link to ready 347 firmware.
Thanks for helping!)
I found that I am having a pretty slow internet surfing speed after flsah with Simple Streak ROM 1.2 By Spidla (Thank you, it's a great ROM!!).
Why I can't recieve 3G signal on T-Mobile ? I have 4G plan anyway. Edge really kills me as it only have a speed of 12 KB/s.
Could anyone help me out ? What ROM else could have 3G signal on T-Mobile? Let me know as well ~~~ Thank you guys
It's a Dell retail model (unlocked one, not Att, maybe), T-mbile assistant says that probably my device it's not the AWS model, which support UMTS900, UMTS1700, UMTS2100.
My service tag is G85Z1P1.
Your streak is likely the US model and not the AWS model.
That can only get 3g on At&t and not Tmo
I have figured out the problem. I checked that there are people selling AWS model at $750 on eBay, is there anywhere possible for me to get an AWS besides that one? Thank you
You will need to get a AWS streak, really doesnt matter how.
Might be cheaper and easier to try getting one from Cincanatti Bell and unlocking it. I'd assume theirs are new stock. But I cant help you with details since I havnt tried it myself.
If you buy off ebay you'll need to be the judge of price and condition and age of the streak.
Looks like they have the AWS model in stock. But it's hard to get one from Cincinnati as I live in Buffalo.
Maybe try to change the chips or the antenna. It's radiculous as Streak 7 can support 850/900/1700/1900 at the same time. why not our streak.
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I have checked that theirs support UMTS 800/900/1800/1900. Still doesn't have tmo's 1700.
Maybe try to change the chips or the antenna. It's radiculous as Streak 7 can support 850/900/1700/1900 at the same time. why not our streak.
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Because that's how they built it.
Have any body in the world tried Streak 7's Frameware.apk and service.odex on streak ? bricked or not ?
The AT&T Streaks and the ones purchased directly from Dell unlocked do not have the hardware for the T-Mobile bands. So no software will fix that.
What if I use the Antenna and capacitance that can support 900/1700/2100 frequency? ripe some from T-mobile made hardware and soldering them onto the Streak chip board ?
Or, If anyone lives in Cincinati could help me get one from Cincinati Bell.
You'd need to get one off an AWS streak to be sure it's compatable, then there's the issue of weither or not the mainboard will accept a diff radio.
I have tried hard to find someone in Cincinnati could help me out. And also it will be riscky to have a AWS model as ATT is processing buy off T mobile, if they successes, then T mobile 3G will dead and all 3G users will have to exchange their phones(probably only the one has contracts)
Do you know any other carrier in US use 850/1900 for 3G ?
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I have tried hard to find someone in Cincinnati could help me out. And also it will be riscky to have a AWS model as ATT is processing buy off T mobile, if they successes, then T mobile 3G will dead and all 3G users will have to exchange their phones(probably only the one has contracts)
Do you know any other carrier in US use 850/1900 for 3G ?
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I am not sure why you think that the T-Mobile bands would be dead. I think that in order to take advantage of existing infra-structure new phones after a merger would work on both bands and your existing phone would continue to work as it does now.
check out this link:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/03/21/att-says-t-mobile-3g-phones-will-need-to-be-replaced/
AWS model will only work with T mobile 3G, sucks when traveling aboard.
Hello to everyone
I am considering buying the Dell Venue Android phone from Dell US site, and it's giving me the option to choose from 3G-Optimized for PCS networks (AT&T, etc) and 3G-Optimized for AWS networks (T-Mobile, etc). The problem is that I would be using it in Europe, with European SIM cards. The phone is unlocked, so no problems there. I just want to ask which version is better suited for European 3G networks, some say neither, some say either...
Could somebody here shed some light into this? It would be much appreciated
Thank you
Link --> http://configure.us.dell.com/dellst...1&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=mobile-venue
Ask your provider. In Russia, 3G runs at 2100MHz and both models working fine.
Sent from my Dell Venue using XDA App
Thanx Samver
Here in Serbia 3G also runs on 2100 (or so I'm told), but my service provider couldn't or wouldn't help me with purchasing Venue, I think they're just clueless.
Which version of Venue are you using? Are you able to use HSPA/HSDPA in Russia on your phone?
my phone is the AWS version, from Hong Kong, HSPA/HSDPA working
My connection right now http://internet.yandex.ru/informer/horizontal/718-983.png
Sent from my Dell Venue using XDA App
Get the AWS version if you dont plan on using it with At&t in the US or rogers in canada.
PCS = US model: 850/1900/2100
AWS: 900/1700/2100
Most european carriers: 900/2100
As they both support 2100 you'll still get 3g whereever 2100 3g is available. But in the unlikely chance that only 900 is available only the AWS model can recieve 3g on it.
Thanx Manii, thanx Samver, you've been most helpful
I guess I'll go with AWS version, can't wait to get my hands on it!
Can you do me a favor when you recieve it?
When you get it on and booted can you go to settings -> about phone and tell me the:
Baseband version:
Build number:
I will, no problem, it'll just take some time until I receive it.
Just got my Venue, looks wonderful
@ TheManii
Baseband version: GTOUB1A130730-AWS
Build number: 13505
I bought it unlocked from dell.com few weeks ago, as AWS 3G optimized version.
Thanks for responding, that sure took a while to ship.
I was hoping to see a new rom that i dont have, but as it has 307 i already have that rom
Well, it arrived after about a week, I was waiting for a friend of mine to bring it to Europe.
Hope we'll see new ROM soon...
Just a quick question - any ideas where I could find the drivers for my Venue, for Win XP? Wanna use USB tether, but it keeps asking me for Dell Venue driver, and the tetherxp.inf from Google is not functioning...
Thanx
Anyone? Still can't use USB tethering, tried tetherxp.inf, tried ADB tethering driver from sd card from my Venue, tried Dell Connection Manager, Dell Control point etc.
Thanx
Found a solution, easytether.
http://easytether.blogspot.com/2010/10/easytether-drivers.html
Works ok for now.
Well i have a AWS Streak From Cincinnati Bell Carrier locked, i bought the phone from a guy that said he put the Power_Rom on its the 1.2 Build
Its
2.3.4
GAUSB1A134934-EU It should say aws at the end
2.6.35.7-perf
ASK's Power_Rom
1.2
Is their anyway i can change the baseband back to an aws version so i can get 3G or is their no way to do that i did some searching and could find any certain aws baseband versions. And this phone is an aws version phone i had check and verified with cincinnati bell.
Is it unlocked now? that's the only thing that really matters.
Its not unlocked i check when i got home i put in a tmobile sim att sim and and a international version sim and they all say carrier locked and ask to put in a code but it works fine on the cincinnati bell sim but only gets edge
I also checked the apn settings and everything is correct
Well unless you happen to have a cincinatti bell in your area then, it wouldnt matter as it's still sim locked
I dont think you get what im trying to do
I live in cincinnati and have a cincinnati bell unlimited plan 4G/3G
Im just trying to know if i can restore the baseband back to normal to get the 3G back
and if so what baseband could i use? Right now the phone is acting like its an EU
European model on my Streak box it has UMTS900, UMTS1700, UMTS2100 And its the
M01M002 so its AWS
Is their a way for me to do this are am i screwed
Oh, I guess I misred it then, as I figured you lived in europe from the title.
You cant change the sub-model, it's physically impossible. BUT 349 is the cincinatti bell rom.
If it were a different rom i'd suggest reinstalling 349, but that isnt an option as that rom has never been dumped (i have no information at all on it except the version number)
When in doubt, install 360 and work your way form there, the files and instructions are on the xda wiki.
If your device is truely GAUSB1A134934-EU then something went terribly wrong somewhere.
I did as suggested and everything went smooth but it still says eu
Is their anyone with an aws update pkg?
And is their a such thing as an aws amss.mbn?
Any help would be great, but I might just sell it and get another streak after tonight.
Basebands dont care about whichever submodel you have.
I cant say what you should do, if you were the original owner i'd say take it to CBell and ask them, but who knows if they'll support a 2ndhand owner.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Hey guys any help with this would be amazing. I grabbed this for really cheap the other day and thought it would be able to use ATT LTE since others have had success but no matter what it will only connect to H+ even when LTE finder finds the band I wanted. Really frusted as I thought I got the right model. There is only ONE international one right? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks you guys. Hopefully I didn't mess up and get a wrong version or something though I can return it if I did.
I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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I searched around today and found this. Scroll down to the connectivity part and you see that the phone supports 1 of 5 ATT LTE bands, and 0 of 5 T-Mobile LTE bands. However, I'm not sure if this information is accurate since my phone detects a neighboring band 4 LTE cell tower (which my old phone instantly connected to), but does not connect to it. Also, why is the rest of the forum quiet about this issue? Is it really just me and you that are experiencing it (or that live in the US)? I also am very confused why Huawei removed the USSD code menu option wherein you could force it to LTE. I've heard that changing something in the build.prop can force it, but you need to be rooted for that, and I've gotten bored of rooting phones lol (and the risks involved).
Luckily, for me, this isn't that big of a problem as data still works (albeit slowly), and in the beginning of September I'll be in France for at least a year. So, I made sure that this phone's bands matched up with what the carriers are on in France, so hopefully I should be fine. Otherwise, it's a sleek, awesome phone.
Honor 10 isnt made for US and US bands, even if its the global version. The bands in US are different from those in EU or Asia.
As the guy above confirmed this, the it has just one LTE compatbile band at ATT.
the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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Yeap its a bit dead end without unlocking the bootloader. I dont know if by building and compiling original firmware from released sources and make the changes there, if it would allow you to install it.
Yes I too can pick up band 4 on LTE finder on my phone but I cannot use it, if I could then I would have fine coverage. If I go 5 miles away the other half of the city has full ATT LTE 5 coverage so I was bummed LOL when I went up there and saw full bars LTE+ LOL. Yeah the ebay guys are just putting false info then. I have my bootloader code to unlock as I have done to my V10 but not sure how that would enable the other band 4 I need. I don't have quite that much experience.
I don't know if there is something comparable to this available to be done (since Honor 10 has a Kirin and not a qualcomm), but I'm just going to leave this here for now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
I don't know if Honor went the route of having a few more lte bands and just disabling them in software since my phone does detect band 4 lte, but can't connect to it, but what do I know.
I have the same issue on t-mobile network.
From all the research i did it looks like the US bands are software locked. P20 supports all LTE bands (including US) and it runs on the same chipset, Kirin 970. Also as few people said, they are able to see band 4 in LTE discovery (and other apps), I can see it as well, but can't connect.
As for the software to unlock lte bands, there is nothing like that for Kirin right now.
The only option for now is to find the right modem files, edit them and flash to the device. At least that's the only thing that comes to my mind.
I'm digging through source files, which were released by Huawei, whenever i have a chance, but i'm not even sure what I'm looking for.
really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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This is my favorite too. I guess Huawei really just wants to push the more pricier p20's in the U.S, even though they aren't really in the U.S. market to begin with anymore. With very similar specs to the P20 pro, the honor 10 would easily take away sales from the P20. Can't stop gearbest though, lol. Anyways, the extent of my modification to an android device was decompiling a rom (I think?), editing in specific MCC/MNC values for an AT&T MVNO in a certain file, recompiling it and flashing it to get 4gLTE back, since my phone thought it was roaming. I'm assuming the software-locked band information is a lot harder to find (or fix). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that HajmeR or others manage to find what we're looking for-maybe I'll even give it a go.
The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
yeah i got my refund already from amazon and looking for a replacement, I don't like phones that are 72 mm or wider they are hard to hold, so my view 10 is tough at 75 mm..........the lg g7 is only 71 mm wide and 6.1 screen which is incredible but VERY pricey and it's LG, we know how they are on updates of ANY kind. I have the P20 lite too, which get's every single band in the USA on GSM, I don't get why the honor 10 was hampered so much because I'm not gonna buy the more expensive P20 i've used one and they are not nearly as nice feeling as the honor 10, the body is totally different not curved at all on back and feels like crap.
So the search is on, lenovo has an 845 with samsung super AMOLED on amazon for 450 with 6 gig RAM and 64 ROM and all the other bells and whistles edcept it's not glass on back which is actually like. I really really wanted the nokia 6.1 plus which is perfect in every way except once again 1,3,5, bands only LOL. So not go again. The Xiaomi A2 lite is interesting, metal back, 4000 ma battery which is insanely big, but then only 2.4 wifi and microusb LOL? 625 processor but only 200 bucks so really a good value and get's every band like the p20 lite.
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The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
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I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
banch said:
I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? Otherwise, you cannot read out the oeminfo partition.
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
banch said:
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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Wouldn't you need to pay a third party to unlock it at this point? Or do you keep an unlock code obtained earlier from the days when huawei handled bootloader unlocking? Just wondering. I've kind of learned to suck it up at this point since I'm no longer in the US, so the band issues only affect me when traveling back. However, if there is anyone out there with an unlocked bootloader that can share the oeminfo/know how to understand it, it would be nice to finally figure out if this really is a hardware issue or a software lock.