[Q] tethering speeds while traveling - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I use wireless tether on my sense based custom rom and lately I've been doing a lot of tethering, when I'm in a fixed place like my hotel last week, I got great speeds 6-10 mbps on LTE, but if I'm moving, say pn a bus like I am now or the the backset of a taxi, speeds drop drastically whether on a 4G or 3G connection I get approximately 200 - 400 kbps, I understand that speeds while moving with a mobile broadband connection will be slower, but I'm interested in what speeds others get and their rom / tether app used. 400kbps just seems excessively slow for 4G even though I'm moving.
It may be the tethering app just did a test on 4G and got 9.5 down and 3 up, interested in others experiences
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already solved, took my laptop out of power saving mode and I got 16 down and 4 up, it must be a setting in power managerment / wifi settings

Never use tethering but when I take the bus to school I don't lose any 4gspeed or even go to 3g it stays in 4G, but I think my city has good 4G coverage
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So I recently started messing around with speedtest.net. When I'm in a strong 3G area I see around 5 mbps down. At home on wifi I see around 1.5 mbps down. At face value, it looks like my 3G is faster than my wifi. Can this be true? My ISP only offers up to 1.5 mbps in my area. Should I just get wifi tether and use my phone for internet at home, or do the stats from speedtest only tell a part of the story?
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TJBunch1228 said:
So I recently started messing around with speedtest.net. When I'm in a strong 3G area I see around 5 mbps down. At home on wifi I see around 1.5 mbps down. At face value, it looks like my 3G is faster than my wifi. Can this be true? My ISP only offers up to 1.5 mbps in my area. Should I just get wifi tether and use my phone for internet at home, or do the stats from speedtest only tell a part of the story?
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it is possible that your phone is faster. There are a few things to keep in mind though. How much data do you use? If it is more than 5 GB keep your DSL. The other is are you playing video games? If you are playing games that require a low ping then also stay with your DSL. If you are using low amounts of bandwidth and not playing games you might want to switch.
TJBunch1228 said:
So I recently started messing around with speedtest.net. When I'm in a strong 3G area I see around 5 mbps down. At home on wifi I see around 1.5 mbps down. At face value, it looks like my 3G is faster than my wifi. Can this be true? My ISP only offers up to 1.5 mbps in my area. Should I just get wifi tether and use my phone for internet at home, or do the stats from speedtest only tell a part of the story?
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It's certainly possible, but it doesn't neccessarily mean that your speeds will stay consistent or even be as fast when tethered. Also, your wifi speed will vary based on your distance from your router.
Also keep in mind that your 3G contract has a 5GB cap. From what I understand this simply means your speeds will be throttled down once you reach the cap (and there are some workarounds that may or may not work well out there).
3G is one of the most inconsistent broadband connection out there, so personally I'd never rely on it as my primary internet source, but it's up to you
Awesome answers, I appreciate the info!
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i would love to have a wifi instead of having a data connection. unfortunately my mom doesn't let mo do it.
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Wifi too slow? And how much of ur unlimited data so u use?

Love the speed on my 4glte (30mbps! WOW!), plus I do have unlimited data (grandfathered), so the only reason I use wifi is so that I don't over abuse the unlimited data every month, or if I want to save on battery life.
That said, wifi is extremely slow. I have 20mbps cable at home and I only get 2 through my phone, even when standing right next to the router. My laptop connects to the same network and gets 10!? Why is the wifi on these phones so slow (same issue with tbolt)?
Also if u have unlimited data how much do u use month? Are you afraid they might take it from u?
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I've noticed the same thing. I have 35/35 internet at home, but when the phone is connected to WiFi I don't get anywhere near those speeds. I actually almost get better speeds leaving the phone on 4G even though I'm lucky if I have two bars at times.
Never have been able to find out why, but since I do have unlimited data as well (grandfathered) I typically just leave the 4G on and forget about WiFi.
My typical data usage per month is two maybe three gigabytes with moderate usage, but now that I'm on 4G it might increase some since I'll probably use Google Music more often.
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I get 25mbps to my home and pull 17-22 on the phone. You may have a bad antenna. Also, speed test isn't very accurate. Your "speed" is restricted to what the server you are pulling from can provide. Also, you may have a bad/slow router. If it is dated, I suggest upgrading.
So long as you are not using exponential amounts of data, like 8-10GB, they shouldn't throttle you, and they CAN'T just take it from you.
I don't have unlim because I just switched last week. But I have the double data 4GB plan. Really glad I have that and not 2 gig because I am using an average of 2-3x the data that I did each day on my Desire before I switched. LTE just causes you to use more lol.
I wish I had unlimited because I would watch a fair amount of netflix over 4G
BTW, I have a Linksys E1500 Router.
I agree. You may have a bad antenna, because my Wifi speeds are just fine. I get 30 down and 7 or so up, so there's no problem there. Here's something I've noticed though: My wifi won't stay connected while the phone is asleep. It always goes back onto 4g for some reason. This happening to anyone else?
The only time i get wifi is at Starbucks or the library... and both places are show as hell. No internet(or even tv) at home because i am rarely home. So that being the case, i absolutely never ever use wifi period.
As for data usage, let's just say it's enough that a few people here have labeled it "abuse".
Evo4gLI said:
I agree. You may have a bad antenna, because my Wifi speeds are just fine. I get 30 down and 7 or so up, so there's no problem there. Here's something I've noticed though: My wifi won't stay connected while the phone is asleep. It always goes back onto 4g for some reason. This happening to anyone else?
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It is a setting. The phone is set to go back to 3G/4G after 15 minutes of sleep by default. You can change that in Wifi Settings. You may have to hit the menu button and go to the "advanced" menu to change the setting.
con247 said:
It is a setting. The phone is set to go back to 3G/4G after 15 minutes of sleep by default. You can change that in Wifi Settings. You may have to hit the menu button and go to the "advanced" menu to change the setting.
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AtLemacks said:
I get 25mbps to my home and pull 17-22 on the phone. You may have a bad antenna. Also, speed test isn't very accurate. Your "speed" is restricted to what the server you are pulling from can provide. Also, you may have a bad/slow router. If it is dated, I suggest upgrading.
So long as you are not using exponential amounts of data, like 8-10GB, they shouldn't throttle you, and they CAN'T just take it from you.
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I use 10-20 GB a month and they don't throttle. They only throttle top 5% of 3G users and only on crowded towers and peak times.
low WiFi speed usually means your router is using overused channel (channel that many of your neighbors are using). WiFi Analyzer is nice free app that will tell you which channel to use.
danutzz said:
That said, wifi is extremely slow. I have 20mbps cable at home and I only get 2 through my phone, even when standing right next to the router. My laptop connects to the same network and gets 10!? Why is the wifi on these phones so slow (same issue with tbolt)?
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Try changing the channel on your router.
AtLemacks said:
I get 25mbps to my home and pull 17-22 on the phone. You may have a bad antenna. Also, speed test isn't very accurate. Your "speed" is restricted to what the server you are pulling from can provide. Also, you may have a bad/slow router. If it is dated, I suggest upgrading.
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That's about what I get too. I don't think it is the antenna, I think its the channel and or the bandwidth / modulation settings on the router.
I noticed when I turned my data connection of my WiFi seemed faster. My home network is maybe 15-20mbps and I usually get 12mbps in speed test. If I have data on WiFi is slower.
4g even with one or two bars is about 6-
12 mbps but I loose signal in parts of my house.
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no problems for me, get wifi at 10-20mbps down and 5 up, and my home plan is 30/5 so that is good.
My wi-fi works as good as the data connections, no problems with wi-fi being slow. Use wi-fi 80% of the day and it is always fast.
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Almost always on LTE now. I don't see anywhere near the speeds others get. Usually around 5megs.
This month already I have used 4 gigs of data. the most I ahve ever used in 3g was 3.6. BTW, my billing cycle is only 5 days old
Gotta love netflix and Sons of Guns!!!
Chris
drtnsnw said:
Almost always on LTE now. I don't see anywhere near the speeds others get. Usually around 5megs.
This month already I have used 4 gigs of data. the most I ahve ever used in 3g was 3.6. BTW, my billing cycle is only 5 days old
Gotta love netflix and Sons of Guns!!!
Chris
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You might be in an extended coverage area, and like I stated above, SpeedTest is not accurate at all and completely dependent on the server you pull from. Try changing servers and I bet you see faster speeds.
a friend of mine said that verizon will throttle you above a certain data usage. So we decided to test the theory.
I setup an FTP from my home PC, and proceeded to DL , over 4g, my entire movie collection.
It was a little hard to do because the SD card (16gb one) kept getting full. I ended up with about 33GB of usage for that month. (This was using the droid charge a few months ago)
no overage fees, no throttling.
However I bet if i did that every month, i might see throttling.
If you lived in a high use location (like NYC) you might have gotten a warning.
con247 said:
It is a setting. The phone is set to go back to 3G/4G after 15 minutes of sleep by default. You can change that in Wifi Settings. You may have to hit the menu button and go to the "advanced" menu to change the setting.
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I checked this "advanced" setting just for the heck of it and saw a setting for "best connection" or something similar. It seems by default this is checked off cause it says it uses more battery. Once I turned this on I doubled my wifi speed so it seems like everything is now working correctly.
Thanks everyone for the posts and ideas! Great community here when we're not flaming each other about who "might" be coming out with root...lol
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[Q] What are normal ping, down and up speeds?

I just got around to downloading the speed test app to see how fast me x2 is and after the first test here is what I got:
Ping:19ms
Down:4989kbps
Up:703kbps
Now I dont know much but something tells me that up speed is a little low.
Im on cm7 with the Mash up script and wifi on.
Will the numbers be different if Im on 3G? Are these numbers even remotely good?
Many thanks to all!!
Apps aren't always accurate. I'm not sure what you meant will it be different if I'm on 3G? Wifi and 3G will always differ, wifi is much faster depending on your provider, where 3g can lag at times
On 3g I usually hit 3d and 1 up
Where wifi I'm like 25 down 8 up out there about.
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Your ping time and up/down speeds can vary even when connected to the same tower or wifi network depending the congestion at any given time on the bandwidth provider's network, among other factors.
Your seemingly low upload speed could be attributed to other devices on the wifi network using the upload bandwidth allotted by the isp at the time you performed the speed test. It may also be the case the connection supplying the wifi network is 6Mbps down/1Mbps up. Your upload and download speeds while on wifi can only be as good as the connection from the isp regardless of the settings on your device or how many other devices are on the network.
For what it's worth, I have a Verizon 3G Network Extender plugged into my wireless router, meaning that both my WiFi and the Network Extender can only supply a connection that at best is only as fast as my cable modem's connection to Comcast. Eliminating all conflicting variables (e.g. no other devices on the network when running tests), my Droid X2's 3G upload and download speeds are consistently slower than when I'm on wifi.
19ms is a pretty good ping time, btw.
Lots of useful info. Thanks guys!
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I have also been curious and suspicious of my 3g data speeds. When I was stock and rooted with 2.3.4 I would get on average 20-30 kilobytes/sec in my house with a poorer signnal of -87dbm this is using speed test and checking the down up speeds with the mobile network app that puts the speeds up on the notification bar. I used that to monitor downloads and web browsing speeds which agreed well with speed test. In a good coverage area -67dbm I achieved pretty consistently 130-230 kilobytes/sec. I am now running eclipse 2.0.4 with CMDA build.prop edit to increase 3g speeds. I ve only noticed a doubling of speed when in -87dbma area nut otherwise I cannot achieve anyhigher than 300 kilobytes/sec. I wonder could my radio be weak or bad? I thought 3g speeds would but up to ~500 or greater in really good coverage areas.
MunkinDrunky said:
I have also been curious and suspicious of my 3g data speeds. When I was stock and rooted with 2.3.4 I would get on average 20-30 kilobytes/sec in my house with a poorer signnal of -87dbm this is using speed test and checking the down up speeds with the mobile network app that puts the speeds up on the notification bar. I used that to monitor downloads and web browsing speeds which agreed well with speed test. In a good coverage area -67dbm I achieved pretty consistently 130-230 kilobytes/sec. I am now running eclipse 2.0.4 with CMDA build.prop edit to increase 3g speeds. I ve only noticed a doubling of speed when in -87dbma area nut otherwise I cannot achieve anyhigher than 300 kilobytes/sec. I wonder could my radio be weak or bad? I thought 3g speeds would but up to ~500 or greater in really good coverage areas.
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I never considered radio quality when I looked at my speeds. Exactly how one would go about checking ones radio quality is far beyond me. Its definitely something worth exploring (in my opinion)
Right I would also need to test other 3g speeds on a different phone on the same networko in the same area to rule out network end probs. Plus I got my DROID x2 used so that might be it there. Also if the radio heats up from persistent use that might reduce efficiency and lower speeds.
Those are fairly decent speeds. For a mobile device, that's about what I would expect. Your ping, 19ms, means that it takes .019 second to reach from your device to the Verizon servers, then to the servers of the sites you are accessing, and then finally back to your phone. Anything less than 80ms is considered good, so you have an excellent ping.
And to clarify, your upload speed will never be as high as your download speed. It's a throttling mechanism used by all (and I do mean all) internet providers of any kind to prevent things like hogging their bandwidth with torrents and the like. It's essentially an industry standard.

Photons 4g tethering speeds

How is the photons 4g speeds while tethering with custom ROM?
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>2Mbps on 3G.
I was upstate NY last week (no 4g!) and was getting over 2Mbps! Very good speeds. I got the same 3G speeds in NYC.
In Los Angeles (where I live) I get 200Kbps. Terrible IMO.
I never bother with 4G because of the battery drain and sparse coverage. Plus I am usually in buildings where there is WiFi.
~3.5Mbps in Harrisburg PA
Speeds here are decent and excellent when compared to the hotel wireless network which crawls!
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Guys, if anyone is still having issues with WIFI tether app, the following setup works for me: using 3.1 beta 11, device profile "Google Nexus," Setup method "Netd (master)." Wait at least 10 seconds after start tethering before connecting any of your devices.

Verizon Fios wifi download speeds

Hey guys, I have fios with 50/25 mbps I can get around 40 with my laptop but my note is getting low teens. I switched from a wep security to wpa2 security whichever increased my wifi on my laptop but not on my phones (note 2 and ssg3).
Any ideas how to increase this? Am I missing a setting when connecting to wifi? At the moment, my 4g is faster than my wifi.
Upload speeds are fine... Actually higher than my download speeds. Seems like something is restricting my download speed.
Thanks in advance.
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koreankabachy said:
Hey guys, I have fios with 50/25 mbps I can get around 40 with my laptop but my note is getting low teens. I switched from a wep security to wpa2 security whichever increased my wifi on my laptop but not on my phones (note 2 and ssg3).
Any ideas how to increase this? Am I missing a setting when connecting to wifi? At the moment, my 4g is faster than my wifi.
Upload speeds are fine... Actually higher than my download speeds. Seems like something is restricting my download speed.
Thanks in advance.
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I have FiOS as well and encounter the same "problem...". My chrombook gets above 40 Mbps and my Note 2 gets around 18-25 even standing next to my router...I just think its the way it is to be honest...I really don't know but just wanted to share that I'm seeing the same thing here...it really doesn't inhibit my experience at all 18-25 Mbps is perfectly fine for cell phone downloads etc.
JamesPumaEnjoi said:
I have FiOS as well and encounter the same "problem...". My chrombook gets above 40 Mbps and my Note 2 gets around 18-25 even standing next to my router...I just think its the way it is to be honest...I really don't know but just wanted to share that I'm seeing the same thing here...it really doesn't inhibit my experience at all 18-25 Mbps is perfectly fine for cell phone downloads etc.
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Same set up here...with similar results. I did some research on this as my ipad2 (which is now in a drawer thanks to the Note 2 BTW) wasn't getting anywhere near the speed I would have expected despite it supposedly being N compatible (my lenovo laptop gets 45 Mbps down all the time). Best answer I could find is that not all wireless radios are equal and can't handle the same speeds.
I have a 25 download connection on FIOS, and am sitting in my living room about ten feet from my router. I just ran a test on my laptop and phone via speedtest.net, and got 24/5 on the laptop and 25/6 on the Note 2. Initially I was going to respond to your post and say I am used to the same result you are seeing, but I just proved myself wrong.
When I'm in other parts of the house however, I do tend to see more of a performance degradation on the phone vs. the laptop...I don't have any exact data at the moment since I'm feeling too lazy to walk upstairs and repeat the test, but I do know the falloff happens more rapidly on the phone with distance from the router.
This is what I get on my Comcast 50/15 connection.
Desktop hardwired: 59Mbps down / 12Mbps up
Desktop wireless: 55Mbps down / 12Mbps up
Note 2: 40Mbps down / 16Mbps up
My desktop on wireless connects at 144Mbps, while my Note 2 only connects at 72Mbps. Both are within 4' of the router. Both using the same SpeedTest.net server.
I've noticed a huge difference in WiFi speeds between the different radios, the one that had given me the best spotted on WiFi is VRAMC3. The one that gives me the best speed on LTE is L4. The speed definitely differs from which radio you flash, that's why I wish Samsung would give our devs access to their radio tools and let us build our own. I guarantee if they did we wouldn't see this kind of crap.
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