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well theres a lot of old info out there, having a hard time sorting some of this stuff out!
I have a stock Eris that came from Verizon with 2.1 on it already. I'd like to root it, but does that mean I have to install a custom ROM? or is there a way to get root with the ROM thats already on the phone? Sorry noob questions I know but I've read over the adb command stuff and it sound easy, but I'd like some clarification on what each command does and what each file is for, etc...I have the sdk set up already on my computer. I hear stuff about bootloader versions, radio versions and stuff too, does this stuff get modified as well during this process? and if so, is there a way to revert to 100% stock if I have to send it in for warranty or insurance? keep in mind this phone already had 2.1 from verizon, if that matters.
You can root your phone using jcase's 1 click root app from the market all you have to do is run the app, reboot into recovery by holding power and volume up or down(mine ia volume up my roomates is volume down) and flash the rootme.zip file the app places on your sd card. Doing this will root your current os and you will not lose any data. At that point you can wipe and flash a custom rom instead of the rootme.zip by having one downloaded and already on your sd card. Make sure its not in a folder. If you want to do things like overclocking you will need a custom rom as the stock kernel does not support it. You can also just flash a new kernel its the same as flashing a rom. Anyway check out jcase one click root thread in the eris development section for more detailed instructions and on youtube lostelement has some great videos showing how to root the eris and flash a rom step by step. Hope this helps.
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can you still root this eris using the command terminal? or do I have to do the 1-click method? and as far as returning the phone to 100% stock, is there a RUU program that will restore everything to stock? I've seen some threads but it seems like many of the download links are getting broken for some reason?
EDIT: also, jcase's 1-click method installs Amon's recovery correct? and this file..."rootme.zip" is this like a "patch" that is applied to the current OS to provide root, whereas flashing a new custom rom will delete and replace everything but this custom rom has been writtn to provide root access already? sorry so many questions, just trying to get a handle on this before I try it and do something stupid/expensive haha
Yes there are ruu's to go back to stock. I believe you can still use the terminal but one click root is easier and it does give you amon ra recovery. Flashing rootme.zip will root your stock os and give you superuser permissions app which allows you to manage what apps are granted root access.
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And customs roms are all ready to for root. If your flashing a custom rom you don't need to flash rootme.zip.
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Does flashing custom roms change the hboot version or the radio version? Also for some reason when I do the vol-up+end when I power on it shows a screen with a red triangle with an exclamation point, is this normal until I flash the new recovery image?
Yea that's normal until you flash a new recovery and the roms don't affect the radio or hboot. They must be flashed separately. Be very careful flashing a radio. A bad radio flash is the easiest way to brick your phone.
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probably wont touch the radio or hboot, not many ppl seem to need to. as far as the RUU goes, it will re-flash the recovery and the rom back to the same as they were out-of-box correct? wondering if anybody has a link to this file, all links i've found are broken
I haven't had to use it but from what I understand its an executable file that you run on your pc while your phone is plugged in via usb. If you need it im sure someone would be able to post a fresh link or email it to you.
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thx steve for all your help so far If anybody has a link to the RUU for the official original 2.1 eris, email it to me or link in this thread, also wondering if theres a link to the official 2.1 ROM (the non-root version and not the leak versions, the "official" OTA is what I mean.) In case something bad happens with a ROM I install that i have the original to flash, thay way I can keep Amon's recovery on the phone instead of using the RUU, personally having a hard time finding it. seems liek all the stock roms are labeled PB00IMG?
After you root, in amonra you can do a nandroid backup, which will completely back up everything on your phone to your sd card. If you don't like a rom or are having problems you can just recover your backup and your phone will be as it was when you made the backup. I keep nandroids of a few different roms and just switch between them sometimes.
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So is there any advantage at all to being rooted on the stock rom? That's where I am now. I will probably stay there for a while until I decide what ROM I want to try. I installed an overclocking widget from the marketplace just to try it out, but from the sounds of this thread, its a waste of time with the stock rom.
Rooted on a stock Rom sucks. Battery life compared to a froyo based Rom is exponentially better imo. Nonsensikal vanilla v7 was the Rom of choice but I'm back to stock because I have to send the phone back to VZW
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Yea I would recommend kaos froyo or tazz froyo. Im currently using kaos 35-1 and the battery life is amazing. Check out DS36 thread on improving battery life by using set cpu and auto killer. I get a day and a half easily with moderate use IE texting facebook and checking xda all the time and a phone call or two. I have the stock battery.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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Sounds good. I think I am being a bit of a chicken to be honest. Sell me on the safeness of this. I will look at that thread too. Thanks.
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It's really not that difficult one click Eris root run rootme.zip download and extract the Rom of your choice. Run amon ras recovery nandroid backup wipe flash new Rom and voila. Easy as pie.
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I did the one click Eris root already, and just applied the rootme.zip. So installing a new rom would mean copying it to the root of the SD card, rebooting and holding down the volume key and then picking that new zip file, correct? I don't know what that amon ras recovery thingy is. Is that part of rom installation, or something that I need to acquire separately?
You need to copy the Rom to your SD card and use estrongs file explorer download from market and long press on the .zip file it will pull up a menu that gives you some options. Extract from the .zip file and hit ok no new path is needed. Now that yuu have the file on your SD card reboot and go to recovery nandroid backup then wipe then flash from zip. After it unpacked and loads then it will prompt you to reboot hit okay and let it do its thing. I'm going to end all this with saying double check the forums for how tos and I'm not responsible for a bricked phone do this at your own risk but have fun itsreally not that difficult
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I'm not responsible for a bricked phone
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Yep, I realize that. You know that you don't actually have to answer my questions right? If I ask more noob questions, know that I am not expecting you personally to answer them.
I'm at work and all of my equipment I maintain is working so I'm killing sometime
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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d1zturbe3d said:
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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well i dont own a vibrant, but from what ive read ODIN is used to get back to stock or if u soft brick ur phone. go to the rom bible for vibrants and you can find easy instruction on how to use ODIN. and there are numerous videos on youtube showing how to use ODIN.
Good luck man
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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If you have read how to return to stock from a soft brick and are still lost, then I'd say definitely no!
Download Fusion if you do not want TouchWiz, or Bionix if you do. Stick with the stock kernel (for now).
Make sure you have Rom Manager and clockwork recovery working.
install titanium backup and backup all apps + data (I would not bother with system data).
Do a nandroid backup.
Flash your Fusion/Bionix.
If you ever want to go back, just restore your nandroid backup.
( All of these steps are in my signature in much greater detail if needed )
+1 to what s15274n posted.
The first time is always the most nerve-wracking. You've got a great phone, everything works great, & it wasn't cheap. The last thing you want to do is "do something" that might mess it up right? I was in that boat for a while and when I did flash a ROM, I was like..."I was worried why?"
It's pretty simple, I just made sure to sync my contacts/calendar, used AppBrain to sync my apps (you can use Titanium Backup to to this too but I didn't need/want to save any data) and then I was good to go.
I downloaded TGA's One Click Root/Unroot. Then after I made sure SuperUser was installed in the App Drawer I downloaded ROM Manager (Free from the Market), installed it, & ran it.
After that I clicked on ClockWork Recovery inside the app so it would download/install (it's a separate download but dependent upon ROM Manager). After that, I rebooted into recovery from within the ROM Manager. Followed the directions on the menu to perform a nandroid backup then I was good to go.
The directions for installing ROMs are in the beginning of all the ROMs threads plus there's a lot of good information in the Tip & Tricks sticky thread in General and the Team Whiskey site (Home of the Bionix ROMs) has a good writeup.
I tend to stick with the non-Froyo ROMs just because I use the GPS daily and we don't have the GPS drivers for Froyo yet. Eugene's Hybrid & Bionix Fusion are great ROMs to start with. Just pick one with the attributes you like and you won't go wrong.
Hope this helps a bit & have fun flashing,
~SB
Thank you all for your advice and help. I already downloaded Rom Manager and titanium back up all i have to do now is pick a rom and go for it...and i think i will actually pick one and do it later today.
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Flash away my friend. I must warn you that flashing is addictive!!
Always do a Nandroid backup before Flashing. If you screw up, you can always ODIN back to Stock. ODIN is your friend!!
When flashing, I prefer to flash through Clockwork Mod. You can flash through ODIN too but Clockwork is easier.
I would also suggest making sure you can get into Download mode without adb or terminal commands as well.
If you can't then you'll want to check the bible on the method to fix the hardware lock.
Also, if you haven't yet upgraded your phone to JI6, you should SIM unlock your phone (I believe you lose this option when you go to JI6) and backup the folder that has your unlock (should also be in the bible). You may never need it, but it's definitely a nice option to have, especially on a phone that can get the AT&T 3g signal (well, one radio band of it anyways).
Hey guys so I flashed my phone earlier today using the bionix stock rom. Everything went great but then I tried going back to stock using nandroid and my phone ended being stuck at the Vibrant logo screen. After realizing that it was stuck I just went back to the bionix rom. Anyone know why nandroid wasn't able to restore me back to my back up?
Also if I wanted to install another rom would I just download it and install it or would I would have to go back to stock then flash it??
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Sounds like you had the jac or kk kernel, and not the stock.
Nandroid doesn't restore the kernel, so you have to flash the stock kernel before.
Does the stock bionix come with a different kernel? Because I thought my kernel didn't change. I checked before and after flashing and my kernel was the same?
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Nope...stock Bionix is the regular JI6 kernel.
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even if you have the stock kernel of a custom Rom. when you do a nandroid restore your phone will be soft bricked. they say that after you restore, you have to flash the stock kernel too in the recovery mode.
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Aright I guess I need to download the j16 kernel
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So a long time ago I rooted my cousins phone and installed gingerblur. And haven't touched the phone sense. Now he wanted to go to gingerbread and I borked his phone. It's working again but am on old 1.26 firmware stock. I've been reading a lot all day and I'm just confused flabbergasted I am plain lost this is way harder then my HTC and Samsung. Well basically could someone tell me or link me to the easiest fastest way to get to gingerbread?
Use the sticky in development to download the 1.8.3 firmware. Use RSD to flash to that. Make sure it is the full and not the service. Root the phone then with gingerbreak. After that there is a sticky in Dev called pudding. Flash that using RSD. Your phone will be unlocked .Then you can flash any rom.
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So a long time ago I rooted my cousins phone and installed gingerblur. And haven't touched the phone sense. Now he wanted to go to gingerbread and I borked his phone. It's working again but am on old 1.26 firmware stock. I've been reading a lot all day and I'm just confused flabbergasted I am plain lost this is way harder then my HTC and Samsung. Well basically could someone tell me or link me to the easiest fastest way to get to gingerbread?
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First do the ota updates to 1.83 then root it using gingerbreak. Next:
1. Unlock your bootloader here:http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader
2. instal cwm http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138541
2a. MAKE SURE YOU USE THIS CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=641508&d=1309404399
3. Mount your phone and put whatever rom you choose that can be installed through .zip on the sd card i suggest kens :http://bandbinnovations.com/xda/gingerbread/Gingerbread-Atrix-Beta-4-5.zip
4. boot into cwm by holding volume down button while powering on and then scroll through until you see android recovery on your phone right under where it says unlocked.once boote...
5. choose instal zip and go to where you saved it
6. install the zip
7. do not reboot yet.
8. clear cache and dalvik(found in advanced) and finally do a wipe data restore.
9. reboot!
Hope this helps!
Great thanks guys I got his phone up and running.
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Great thanks guys I got his phone up and running.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179506
i made a video in case you run into this issue again
Ok so I'm currently running the latest ICS CleanROM but would like to restore back to my GN nandroid I made. I'm just confused on what steps I need to do. I guess the ICS ROMs use different kernels that are not compatible with GB. In which case I don't know where to get the latest OTA stock kernel from so I can restore back to GB. Been searching and trying to read but it gets confusing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
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Ok so I'm currently running the latest ICS CleanROM but would like to restore back to my GN nandroid I made. I'm just confused on what steps I need to do. I guess the ICS ROMs use different kernels that are not compatible with GB. In which case I don't know where to get the latest OTA stock kernel from so I can restore back to GB. Been searching and trying to read but it gets confusing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
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There is a posted latest OTA stock on android developement , but I think it got pushed back to the 2nd page by now.
He has 2 files , one is a zip and the other a ph98img file.
Now, the text file in the ph98img file is our old stock number so it won't auto install.
Here is what I did, put the first file on the root of the external SD card.
Open up the second file and remove the boot.img file, and put on your desktop or better yet into your fastboot folder that you used to unlock with.
Now, reboot in recovery and wipe data/factory reset. Then install your backup, but don't reboot yet. Flash the 1 st file you downloaded from the OTA kernel post. After that is done , return to main recovery menu.
Now select developer menu, then select reboot to bootloader. After you are in bootloader select fastboot (should say FastbootUSB ) if your phone is plugged in and your in fastboot.
Finally, open up a command prompt from the fastboot folder containing the boot.img from the 2nd file and type in fastboot flash boot boot.img
This will flash the rest of the stock kernel for you . Now ,, just reboot normally and you should be good to go .
Now, this is if the backup nand your restoring was using the stock OTA kernel. If not , its the same process just pull the boot.img out of the kernel from whatever rom your trying to restore.
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Ok so I'm currently running the latest ICS CleanROM but would like to restore back to my GN nandroid I made. I'm just confused on what steps I need to do. I guess the ICS ROMs use different kernels that are not compatible with GB. In which case I don't know where to get the latest OTA stock kernel from so I can restore back to GB. Been searching and trying to read but it gets confusing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
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i just came back to cleanrom 1.5.5 from ics rom and this is what i did.
you need the cleanrom and cleanflash 1.0 to do this.
cleanrom: http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=70
cleanflash: http://www.scottsroms.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=57
extract the rom file and copy the boot.img file and paste on cleanflash folder.
also put the rom file in your ext. sdcard.
now use cleanflash.exe and flash the boot.img first
then from bootloader, go to recovery and wipe then flash the rom
Awesome thanks guys this is helpful. Gonna give it a try.
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Awesome thanks guys this is helpful. Gonna give it a try.
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I believe CleanROM 1.5+ & RezROM 1.4+ ROMs include and automatically install the kernel.
What is the use of flashing clockworkmode??
cant we just root the device=>flash cm7???
and after I flash cm7 can I do a recovery??
You can't flash CM7 without a recovery
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I think you don't understand what a "Custom recovery" actually means...
And by the way, LGDRM, KDZ Updater and fastboot can update firmware without an installed recovery
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You can't flash CM7 without a recovery
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is recovery a tool to flash cm7?
Ianis G. Vasilev said:
I think you don't understand what a "Custom recovery" actually means...
And by the way, LGDRM, KDZ Updater and fastboot can update firmware without an installed recovery
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what are those?? never heard of them
thomaslau said:
what are those?? never heard of them
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How can you expect to flash cm7 on your phone if you don't know what to use and what you are doing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152306
thomaslau said:
What is the use of flashing clockworkmode??
cant we just root the device=>flash cm7???
and after I flash cm7 can I do a recovery??
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You cannot flash custom roms without a recovery, LGDMP and KDZ updater flash stock roms only!!
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How can you expect to flash cm7 on your phone if you don't know what to use and what you are doing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152306
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i flash cm7 already by following the thread but dont understand some procedures
thomaslau said:
i flash cm7 already by following the thread but dont understand some procedures
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What are these procedures you are talking about? And are you saying that you were confused yet you still managed to flash cm7?
You should read the stuff in the links I posted. It doesn't get any simpler than that. If you are still confused after reading those links, I suggest you stop what you are doing and continue on with your life
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What are these procedures you are talking about? And are you saying that you were confused yet you still managed to flash cm7?
You should read the stuff in the links I posted. It doesn't get any simpler than that. If you are still confused after reading those links, I suggest you stop what you are doing and continue on with your life
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i already flashed cm7 on my phone and using it. but i dont get it why do wee need to use clockworkmod or any other similar to the mod
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i already flashed cm7 on my phone and using it. but i dont get it why do wee need to use clockworkmod or any other similar to the mod
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You need a custom recovery to flash roms such as cm7. It is also used to make a backup of your phone and wipe the data on your phone. How is it that you've flash cm7 (which means that you've also used your recovery before) yet you don't know the purpose of having a recovery? I think you're going way to ahead of yourself.
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I'm guessing it's more of a case of he's flashed cm7, using the recovery to do so, but doesn't understand the behind-the-scenes procedures that go into the actual flashing.
you need to read the sticky thread if you dont know basics
Think of custom recovery as the basic setup/installer tool for anything and everything related to custom ROMs, kernels, etc. .
kdz and lgdrm are only for stock(OEM)/official releases.
The reason you need it, because it's the only way to do it and carrier's don't give you access to change your ROM. Does Microsoft put mod chips/software in xbox 360? No, hell no, they only give you limited access and regulate what content can be yours.
Custom recoveries come with features that you normally can't do, like nand(full phone backup) backup.
It's this way because that's how it has to be done.
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thanks, you guys are awesome.
just one more question: can i reset my phone and restore it to stock cm7. if yes, how can i do it??? is that like i only need to hold power & vol. down at the same time and go to recovery mode? thx
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i already flashed cm7 on my phone and using it. but i dont get it why do wee need to use clockworkmod or any other similar to the mod
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Just because your phone is "rooted" dosent mean you can install a rom like a app, you need to use clockwork mod, why do you need it? you need it because it allows you to perform actions that you couldn't do on a stock phone. With clockwork mod you can back up your system files, restore system files, install new roms for use or testing. If your phone is just "rooted" all it means is you can now access system files, use certain "root required" apps, being rooted is step #1 to installing clockwork mod, its like your phone is unlocked, if you just want your phone rooted to delete some system apps thats fine, but it is wise to flash clockwork mod because it can prevent your phone from being bricked and now you can install roms. so the answer is pretty simple, how else would you install a rom without clockwordmod? you couldnt so its just one of those things you need, hope this helps man
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apart from all this custom roms come packed as zip files n kdz updater or lgdrm doesnt recognize these files so u need to hace custom recoveries like cmw or twrp or amonra
thomaslau said:
thanks, you guys are awesome.
just one more question: can i reset my phone and restore it to stock cm7. if yes, how can i do it??? is that like i only need to hold power & vol. down at the same time and go to recovery mode? thx
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I don't think that you could do that... since the phone doesn't even come with CM7 in the first place. Doing a factory reset / restore wouldnt bring the phone to stock CM7. Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it bring the phone back to FroYo since that's what it came with?
CM7 is already a custom ROM so there is nothing stock about it... Stock means whatever the phone came with from the box (FroYo) CM7 is Gingerbread.
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I don't think that you could do that... since the phone doesn't even come with CM7 in the first place. Doing a factory reset / restore wouldnt bring the phone to stock CM7. Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it bring the phone back to FroYo since that's what it came with?
CM7 is already a custom ROM so there is nothing stock about it... Stock means whatever the phone came with from the box (FroYo) CM7 is Gingerbread.
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If your running cm7 or any rom you can do a factory/reset through the rom your using, it will just erase all info but wont delete the rom and it will delete apps so when you reboot you will have to set up Google account like a new phone, cm7 will still be installed and your current rom it will just be like new, to do a factory reset go to settings, security then hit factory reset, reboot and then back to a clean start on cm7 there will be a option to erase everything on the SD card, hit no if you want to keep all files on your SD or hit yes if you want it all gone, goodluck p.s the only way you can go back to stock is to flash a stock rom and if you made a backup of your stock rom before you flashed cm7
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Hey,
I have installed rom manager to flash clockwork recovery.. one thing i want to ask that after flashing clockwork recovery n in case if i want to remove it, then how ..? I have just rooted stock rom v20c n i want to install kernel for playing games... help me n guide how do i do n how can i remove clockwork recovery , i m feeling very freaky bcoz once before i have already bricked my phone by flashing gb through kdz... help.. n i think that this time the people at service centre will refused to repair it bcoz they can guess what i m doing again n again with it...
thanks in advance
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