Warning to all Sprint users!
I was using my motorola Photon while roaming on CDMA domestically, which I have done before, when all of a sudden a popup appeared. This wasn't the normal, "beware of possible data charges, continue?" This popup said something like: "You are roaming domestically off of Sprint's wireless network, to continue you must agree to pay the roaming charges"
You are given the choice to agree or cancel and not be able to use data. I have gotten out of it by pressing the home button but it keeps coming back while I'm roaming.
Did sprint change their policy? If so let me know so I can cancel for free, this isn't going to fly.
Hello,
With the Simply Everything Plan, Domestic Roaming is free. The Warning is just a boilerplate warning as not everyone is on the Plan and the Photon does not know which Plan you are on. If on the Simply Everything Plan, just turn off the Warning.
Cheers,
JJ
As an ex-Sprint employee I know this, but this popup was different than the one I normally receive on the Photon and specifically said Sprint. It also said I WILL be charged.
So instead of assuming, did you call sprint to verify?
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I have called about this before and was told I can use up to 300mb of data while roaming, anything after that I would get charged.
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I was told the same thing when I signed up for Sprint Service earlier today... I spend a day or so in a fringe area that roams 3G on Verizon, and was told if I go over 300 MB data, or half of my voice minutes on another domestic network, that I could get charged, or booted off.
Censura_Umbra said:
Warning to all Sprint users!
I was using my motorola Photon while roaming on CDMA domestically, which I have done before, when all of a sudden a popup appeared. This wasn't the normal, "beware of possible data charges, continue?" This popup said something like: "You are roaming domestically off of Sprint's wireless network, to continue you must agree to pay the roaming charges"
You are given the choice to agree or cancel and not be able to use data. I have gotten out of it by pressing the home button but it keeps coming back while I'm roaming.
Did sprint change their policy? If so let me know so I can cancel for free, this isn't going to fly.
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As a current Sprint employee, I can say roaming is free for both voice and data. Every smartphone I carry at my location has that "generic" warning message. I've been answering that question for over 4 years now. One thing to note though, Sprint does has excessive usage where they can terminate your contract at will. I believe there was bond XDAer who accumulated something like 93GB in a 3 month time period and politely asked to leave Sprint. If you have further questions, call 1-877-775-4886 instead of *2 or 1-800-SPRINT1.
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Just called. They confirmed that anything over 300mb would incur a charge....times are a changing
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Just called. They confirmed that anything over 300mb would incur a charge....times are a changing
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300mb or a majority of data use. If you use 2gb in a month and you roam at or under 1gb for said month then you will not be charged. This us covered in the TOS and can be found verbatim on their website.
Just saying.
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Some people just dont really read anymore, nor have common sense, I mean really, you think any carrier would happily let you roam constantly??? If your phone gets a bad signal, call them and (politely) talk to them and see what they can do, if that doesn't solve the issue, go for an airvana, doesn't cost you a dime, if your still not happy, cancel your contract, sprint didn't force you to sign the dotted line, you made that decision....done with my rant for the night
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Yes but sense we are all used to roaming constantly, due to Sprint's limited network, and it has always been free. And as you see from a current employee above; we are still being told it is free, it is just ridiculous.
Anyway, not here to ***** about Sprint, just warning those who torrent all the time.
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Yes but sense we are all used to roaming constantly, due to Sprint's limited network, and it has always been free. And as you see from a current employee above; we are still being told it is free, it is just ridiculous.
Anyway, not here to ***** about Sprint, just warning those who torrent all the time.
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that statement alone.....
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Voice roaming is free, data you get 300mb before you receive any charges. The pop up is phone oriented it is just the data roaming guard i just turn it off.
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It is not the phone roaming guard, this one was different than the usually roaming guard. Plus I had the guard off.
I've never seen anything like that and as others have said, I've heard roaming is unlimited and free from Sprint reps. Maybe OP is in a test market for a new crack down on it. *shrug*
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Voice roaming is free, data you get 300mb before you receive any charges.
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Once again, the spreading of more mis-information...
Since no one takes the time to read the Data roaming agreement portion of your subscriber agreement I'll quote it for you all so that you may all 'know it all' ... In case anyone cares to read it, you can find the entire agreement here
Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes...
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So, if you use a total of 2gigs in a month and you use 1gig or less while roaming, they won't care because you are still under the 'majority of kilobytes' clause.. therefore, no charges, no pissy letters, no phone call... nada.
In fact, I'll post up a screenshot where my wife and I consumed roaming data like you wouldn't believe and they didn't care.
On a side note.. if anyone uses their cellular data connection for downloading torrents they are an idiot... my data consumption was streaming internet radio while force roaming just to test the 'majority of kilobytes' theory.. they didn't give a ****...
proof is in the pic... now can we please stop beating this horse ?
smh
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that statement alone.....
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That's EXACTLY why that Guy with 93Gb in a month got the boot!! For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would use a phone to download torrents, just can't. And if you READ the contract, (I did down to the fine print), unlimited data has limitations. Torrents were not specifically mentioned, but using Photon as a Server is, and I assume this falls under that.
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That's EXACTLY why that Guy with 93Gb in a month got the boot!! For the life of me, I cannot understand why anyone would use a phone to download torrents, just can't. And if you READ the contract, (I did down to the fine print), unlimited data has limitations. Torrents were not specifically mentioned, but using Photon as a Server is, and I assume this falls under that.
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yeah, that guy is an idiot.. period.
Glad they booted him.. it's that kinda **** that makes carriers switch to capped or tiered data.. that **** only hurts us all in the long run if it continues..
I stream internet radio while at work all day. Mine is 'normal' usage.. not for torrents and crap.. anyhow.. I just wanted to point out that it's not a fixed 300mb 'cap'... it's 300mb OR a majority of data.... funny how ppl just can't read.
FFS if you are that guy torrenting/hotspotting all your ****, you're an asshole.
There was a guy on reddit a month or two ago complaining that Sprint terminated his unlimited data plan. Come to find out, his previous month's data usage exceeded 100gb because he was using his wifi hotspot (from rooting) for all his internet purposes.
Don't be that guy. Don't be the reason we can't have nice things.
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FFS if you are that guy torrenting/hotspotting all your ****, you're an asshole.
There was a guy on reddit a month or two ago complaining that Sprint terminated his unlimited data plan. Come to find out, his previous month's data usage exceeded 100gb because he was using his wifi hotspot (from rooting) for all his internet purposes.
Don't be that guy. Don't be the reason we can't have nice things.
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I ditched my home internet and I use my photon as my only ISP. It provides internet for my laptop, desktop, and any other internet connected device in my life. And I have never even come close to 100gb. The highest month I have had since I have been doing this was 12gb.
That guy must have not only been using it for all his internet traffic, but he must have had a ton of traffic too.
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Sprint is really disappointing me. I've been through MetroPCS and Virgin Mobile which are prepaid and I was paying 40 a month unlimited everything and the speeds, and coverage are equal to Sprint and even better.. virgin mobile is running off of sprints towers and I was getting AMAZING speed, about 2 mbs all the time and peaked at 2.4 mbs.
Sprint has been in the game for a LONG time, but they must not know what they are doing or need a new CEO. Look at ATT, T-Mobile, and Verizon.. they are years ahead of Sprint..
I feel like im paying 100$ a month for just being able to use a badass phone that prepaid companies dont offer. I got better support/service using prepaid.. its sad.
today in school, my friend has his ATT Iphone 4s out and did a speedtest.. he was pulling off 5.5mbs!. I couldnt even start mine because i was on roaming with 0 bars... he had like 4/5 bars.. wtf... makes me extremely jealous
Anyone have any idea what could be behind the issues with Sprint and why things havent improved in the past 2 years?
Send them a message by canceling service and flashing your device to work on Metro.
If you don't tell Sprint (with your wallet) that there's something wrong, they will never hear your complaints.
Sprint has improved for me in the past 2 years. I'm in Chicago.
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5.5mbs!? Man, he's gonna reach his cap in like 4.2 days of use. That's the plus with using Sprint, you can use your phone the whole month without having to worry about caps because... 1. They don't cap. 2. Even if they did, you still wouldn't hit it when you're pulling 56kbs.
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5.5mbs!? Man, he's gonna reach his cap in like 4.2 days of use. That's the plus with using Sprint, you can use your phone the whole month without having to worry about caps because... 1. They don't cap. 2. Even if they did, you still wouldn't hit it when you're pulling 56kbs.
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Yes when I saw it my jaw dropped and yes your 100% right, lmao. I hope one day we will have speeds near this .. my 4G barely hit 6 mbs QQ
You need to buy a phone that meets your coverage needs. If your roaming in an area where your friends ATT has full service, and you spend a lot of time there, you need to switch.
I work in the wireless repair field, and i tell my customers to find a carrier that has coverage where they spend most of their time at, usually HOME and Work/school.
If your roaming in school you cant really complain about data speeds, as your not on Sprints Network.
I will agree that Sprint does have some 3G issues, could be over capacity, could be interference, could be a lot of things. But its intermitent for me and never prevents me from fully using my device.
The other day i got 2.3megs down at my apt.
The next morning eating breakfast near my office i had .2 megs down.
I deal with it because its a great unlimited plan, and its been reliable.
FYI, my personal phone is an EVO 3D, my work phone is an iPhone 4, Sure it gets 3-4 bars but it also drops a lot of calls. Cant say the same for my EVO 3D. Always reliable. So was the Epic Touch, Epic 4G and EVO 4G. Never had dropped call issues with them.
The 4G signal I get nearest to my home in Sacramento (Sadly it doesn't actually REACH my home) is typically about 12Mbit. Oddly enough, it's right near the Sprint store where I get these speeds. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
The sad thing is, I still can't stream any Shoutcast stations (or SiriusXM) for **** on 4G, have to turn it off, then it streams perfectly over 3G. I hate WiMax.
IAmSixNine said:
You need to buy a phone that meets your coverage needs. If your roaming in an area where your friends ATT has full service, and you spend a lot of time there, you need to switch.
I work in the wireless repair field, and i tell my customers to find a carrier that has coverage where they spend most of their time at, usually HOME and Work/school.
If your roaming in school you cant really complain about data speeds, as your not on Sprints Network.
I will agree that Sprint does have some 3G issues, could be over capacity, could be interference, could be a lot of things. But its intermitent for me and never prevents me from fully using my device.
The other day i got 2.3megs down at my apt.
The next morning eating breakfast near my office i had .2 megs down.
I deal with it because its a great unlimited plan, and its been reliable.
FYI, my personal phone is an EVO 3D, my work phone is an iPhone 4, Sure it gets 3-4 bars but it also drops a lot of calls. Cant say the same for my EVO 3D. Always reliable. So was the Epic Touch, Epic 4G and EVO 4G. Never had dropped call issues with them.
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Exactly what he said. I live in long beach ca 10 years with sprint no issues, and rarely use 4 have, stream everyday while I drive. best bet get whatever works in your most visited area
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Well for me it's the opposite. At my house I get usable 4g. The 4g speeds are around 5-8 megabit. My 3g speeds is worse than 56k and I drop calls often.
I have an Airave where if I send too many text messages the recipient gets 10 copies of each text but on my phone it says it wasn't able to send the text.
The network.sprint.com site says there was 25 upgrades near my area within the last six months and another 25 in the coming six months..... But there is no signal or service quality difference.
It gets worse where I work. I used to get at least 150 kilobytes per second at work then it dropped down to 50 now I barley get 5. No 4g service but I can make and receive calls....
I have no one but to blame but me. I've dealt with Sprint for about 7 years.
You should not be complaining about your friend with that pile iphone4s that doesn't have any access to 4g....
My dad and I are on the Sero plan, 49 bucks a month for unlimited plan but with 500 minutes talk time. Who talks on the phone anymore?
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I agree that picking a network for signal quality in your area is the best bet. Luckily for me, Sprint has been great for me for a long time.
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I agree that picking a network for signal quality in your area is the best bet. Luckily for me, Sprint has been great for me for a long time.
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That's faster than my home wifi minus the ping time... Smh
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stroths said:
I agree that picking a network for signal quality in your area is the best bet. Luckily for me, Sprint has been great for me for a long time.
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Know what's awesome? I'm paying just as much (or more) as this guy but I'm only getting an average of 125kbs.
There should be laws against this.
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Know what's awesome? I'm paying just as much (or more) as this guy but I'm only getting an average of 125kbs.
There should be laws against this.
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Currently I can't afford home internet that is as good as his cell. I had 50mbit through Cox cable, now I have 3.
Manually install different PRL files until you get one that works good for you. Try 11115 specifically, it works great. Or if your tired of Sprint do what I did and flash to Verizon's 00001 to run off Verizon towers first before Sprint's.
On 00001 I get more than double the speed of Sprint at my apartment, and better signal. But at work I get 3x worse than Sprint speed was, although it is about the same cell signal. Its all about finding the one that works best for you.
Personally, while I've had some problems with Sprint, I enjoy the service. I put my phone the data hell, and while in some places I'll admit that I would appreciate having better coverage, the fact that I used only my phone for internet for two weeks (and did a ridiculous amount on it and still do) means that I trust Sprint. Plus, the places that I don't have service, AT&T doesn't have service, and I would have to deal with a data cap. A friend has Metro and hates it. I'll stick with Sprint. It works for me, I love my phone, and I get a great discount because of where I work.
Interesting and informative thread. My compliments to the contributors.
I'm actually surprised that none of the Sprint zealots seem to have made it into this thread to ream you for daring to speak poorly of their beloved carrier.
Great info about using the Verizon PRL's...their service data service here is consistent where as Sprint obviously couldn't care less about their customers in the NOLA area.
Thank you for your time.
We have bunch of thread about Throttle Data. If you don't like getting throttle please sign this petition and spread the word in our xda community. We need to get more people sign this petition faster so we can resolve the issue. And tell At&t to F*** Off because i hate when I pay for unlimitated data and only get about 3.5 to 4 GB with full speed And I know You hate At&t for this too. SO PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION HERE.
I can't support you in this. I use my phone within my plan limits, even when I had an unlimited plan. If throttling keeps the aholes who tether from clogging up the network, I'm all for it. Obviously, unlimited phone plans were not meant to be used for tethering to a PC. Those people are misusing the network because a PC tethered to a phone can use a lot more bandwidth than a phone alone. I don't mean the user that occasionaly tethers and stays within their data plan, but the ones who have only a cell phone plan as their internet provider and tether constantly. Smart phones are becoming the norm and as more of them try to use the same meager bandwidth the problem will get worse. If AT&T is forced to increase bandwidth guess who will pay for it? I think they will eventually have to do just that, but in the meantime I also think they have a right to try and make the user experience as good as it can be for the majority of users and if that means throttling back those who are abusing it, so be it.
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I can't support you in this. I use my phone within my plan limits, even when I had an unlimited plan. If throttling keeps the aholes who tether from clogging up the network, I'm all for it. Obviously, unlimited phone plans were not meant to be used for tethering to a PC. Those people are misusing the network because a PC tethered to a phone can use a lot more bandwidth than a phone alone. I don't mean the user that occasionaly tethers and stays within their data plan, but the ones who have only a cell phone plan as their internet provider and tether constantly. Smart phones are becoming the norm and as more of them try to use the same meager bandwidth the problem will get worse. If AT&T is forced to increase bandwidth guess who will pay for it? I think they will eventually have to do just that, but in the meantime I also think they have a right to try and make the user experience as good as it can be for the majority of users and if that means throttling back those who are abusing it, so be it.
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+1.....and boom goes the dynamite.
One time at football camp, I put my shoulder pads in my arse.
Why do you assume all the throttling comes from people who tether? I think it's pretty shady of at&t to throttle at 1.2gb when users have unlimited data. They have limited plans above that! What is someone who travels a lot supposed to do? They could at least be less harsh and take after sprint and do the top 1% instead of the top 5%. Because 1.2gb is hardly congesting their network. And if it is... At& t has bigger problems.
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I don't tether and I've already used over 2 gb and my billing cycle ends the 20th of this month. They've already started throttling me and it really sucks
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I don't tether, and I never use wifi, because my data connection is slightly faster than my home connection. This is a higher than usual month for me, generally I end the month where I am at now. No message about 5%, never throttled. But my speed tops out at 2.5Mbps generally. I don't know what the throttled speed is, but initially people were saying 1-1.5Mbps (~100Kb/s), if that is the case I wouldn't even notice I was being throttled.
But I support att taking actions to balance the network and provide a consistent experience. If they started throttling me, I would just start using wifi at home. I bet I could cut my data in half if I wanted to by doing that. At least we don't see anymore of those "I got throttled and I'm only at 15GB, wtf!" posts anymore, or people trying to impress the board with 30GB:. I think there is a lot of confusion and mystery around the throttling. I would be more likely to sign a petition asking for a universal 5GB soft cap to the unlimited plans, vs the moving target of 5%, at least that way you could plan ahead. The way the last few months has played out has also taken away all my desire to get a LTE phone.
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Well i guess I'll be the first to say I don't agree with throttling, atleast not in it's current format. I'm all for a consistent and good user experience and keeping a network running good, but that's not what i see happening. All I see is a ploy to push unlimited users to tiered plans.
Their reason for throttling unlimited users is because they're "abusing" the network. I don't buy into this for the simple reason that a tiered plan user can "abuse" the network till their heart is content, but since they're on a tiered plan and paying it's not viewed as "abuse" all of the sudden? I"m sorry but abuse is abuse no matter what rate plan you're on. If user "A" is on unlimited and hits 2GB it's abuse, but then when user "B" whos living in the same region and is on a tiered plan hits 2GB it's magically not "abuse"?
And once you get throttled the only way to get your bandwidth back is to switch to a tiered plan? So swapping a rate plan to one that would cost more all of the sudden relieves network congestion and suddenly the exact same usage isn't considered "abuse"? Sorry I just don't buy into it.
From my understanding VZW has the same %5 throttling policy. However they don't throttle LTE users because their LTE network isn't congested yet. And if they do throttle it's only when you're on a congested tower, once congestion is cleared up or you move to a less congested tower your speeds are returned to normal. Now that seems like an actual effort to fix network congestion, not just charge more.
And I would perhaps be more understanding if they throttled to like half speed or %25 speeds. But once you're throttled to 10kbps the only thing your phone is good for is polling email, even browsing the web times out from what i've read.
Just my $0.02. And no i'm not just an angry unlimited user who's just upset because i got throttled, i've actually never been throttled.
How do you know you are being throttled? I'm way over the 2gb mark and I still get the same speeds.
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I'm in NYC and as soon that I hit 2gb I start getting the throttle messages from ATT my average monthly downloads are about 3gb and i never thether my phone until this last 2 weeks because I got a touchpad and I'm using it alot. I think it depends on the area were you are that ATT decides if they are going throttle you also I since I got my galaxy s2 I have only reach 8mbps download once and all the time the faster ill get is 2mbps and averaging 1.75mbps so I would like to know how much slower they'll make my connection.
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How do you know you are being throttled? I'm way over the 2gb mark and I still get the same speeds.
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Your not being throttled. From what i've read you get capped to about 10kbps download speeds.
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ATT is not throttling you with 2mbps down in nyc, that's just the average crappy speed we get in this area. I don't know where/when you reached 8mbps, but I've never gone over 4mbps anywhere in NY. My speed tops out a little under 4 in Lower East side, average about 2.5 in Midtown and 3 in Upper East/West side. Outer boroughs average anywhere from 500kbps (that's right) to 3.5mbps. Upstate/Westchester hardly ever top 2.5.
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I'm in NYC and as soon that I hit 2gb I start getting the throttle messages from ATT my average monthly downloads are about 3gb and i never thether my phone until this last 2 weeks because I got a touchpad and I'm using it alot. I think it depends on the area were you are that ATT decides if they are going throttle you also I since I got my galaxy s2 I have only reach 8mbps download once and all the time the faster ill get is 2mbps and averaging 1.75mbps so I would like to know how much slower they'll make my connection.
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It was one late night that I made the mistake of taking the upper level of the George Washington bridge and they stopped traffic for construction and I was stopped for about 30min and out of boredom I started messing with my phone and tried the speed test and to my surprise I reached 8Mbps. I attached a picture.
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ATT is not throttling you with 2mbps down in nyc, that's just the average crappy speed we get in this area. I don't know where/when you reached 8mbps, but I've never gone over 4mbps anywhere in NY. My speed tops out a little under 4 in Lower East side, average about 2.5 in Midtown and 3 in Upper East/West side. Outer boroughs average anywhere from 500kbps (that's right) to 3.5mbps. Upstate/Westchester hardly ever top 2.5.
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How do you know you are being throttled? I'm way over the 2gb mark and I still get the same speeds.
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Oh, you'll definitely know. The device is almost useless. Throttling, in its current format, is way over the top. 10 kbps?? Optimizing the network could be done in a way that doesn't completely cripple users.
I agree I will sign this because I don't tether and still get throttle I am all about making the network better but **** being lower to 8kb is a ****ing joke.. this isn't 56k era.
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First of all let me tell you I have Skyrocket, "Skyrocket" Get it. Its LTE something you don't experience. Not saying in bad way but when you get your phone you will know how fast it goes. I know someone who lives in Dallas. the Skyrocket came out on 11/06/2011 and on 11/07/2011 in one day he dloaded about 6.8GB. How? Simple Speed in Dallas is more than 50mbps average so he got throttle rite away. Now i live in Chicago Suburb and I have LTE too. Just doing heavy phone usage on 3G network with my iPhone 4 i had used about 32GB without LTE and tethering. Now i have LTE and if i do same usage i will be probably using twice the data. But now i use wifi at home so hit about 6GB per month. That is the reason I wanted to sign this petition. No tethering. Never done tethering in life.
Miami_Son said:
I can't support you in this. I use my phone within my plan limits, even when I had an unlimited plan. If throttling keeps the aholes who tether from clogging up the network, I'm all for it. Obviously, unlimited phone plans were not meant to be used for tethering to a PC. Those people are misusing the network because a PC tethered to a phone can use a lot more bandwidth than a phone alone. I don't mean the user that occasionaly tethers and stays within their data plan, but the ones who have only a cell phone plan as their internet provider and tether constantly. Smart phones are becoming the norm and as more of them try to use the same meager bandwidth the problem will get worse. If AT&T is forced to increase bandwidth guess who will pay for it? I think they will eventually have to do just that, but in the meantime I also think they have a right to try and make the user experience as good as it can be for the majority of users and if that means throttling back those who are abusing it, so be it.
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Miami_Son said:
I can't support you in this. I use my phone within my plan limits, even when I had an unlimited plan. If throttling keeps the aholes who tether from clogging up the network, I'm all for it. Obviously, unlimited phone plans were not meant to be used for tethering to a PC. Those people are misusing the network because a PC tethered to a phone can use a lot more bandwidth than a phone alone. I don't mean the user that occasionaly tethers and stays within their data plan, but the ones who have only a cell phone plan as their internet provider and tether constantly. Smart phones are becoming the norm and as more of them try to use the same meager bandwidth the problem will get worse. If AT&T is forced to increase bandwidth guess who will pay for it? I think they will eventually have to do just that, but in the meantime I also think they have a right to try and make the user experience as good as it can be for the majority of users and if that means throttling back those who are abusing it, so be it.
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I was if you want to say FORCED onto a unlimited plan from att years ago with my first semi smart phone. I DO NOT and HAVE NOT TETHERED and att is now throttling at 2Gb's. I got this months text message warning at 1.6Gb. I called them to ***** at them knowing it wouldn't get me anywhere. But they told me FOR MY AREA 2Gb is the top 5%. I live just outside of la county with a huge population so I KNOW very well that 2Gb for my area would not and could not be in the top 5%. I usually only use between 2-4Gb a month solely because I am a flashoholic and do nightly cm7 updates on my sgs2 when we have them and the occasional i9100 ICS just to test it out. On my sgs1 I flash the teamhacksung ice whenever a new one comes out. I read xda pretty often. Sometimes I stream Netflix but haven't in about a month so that didn't add to it. It can easily add up and I don't feel I am abusing anything. It is just pure BS on atts part this whole 5% crap. So NO not all of us on unlimited tether and still get throttled.
For those that are okay with the things att is doing now, just wait. If they can get away with crap like this now then I guarantee you they will find OTHER WAYS to f**k with people with the data plans you are currently on without recourse at some point in the future. So this is NOT ONLY for us with unlimited data plans. It is to hopefully stop the beating from att or any other carrier now and in the future so we don't get screwed more and more.
Like I said years ago I was pretty much forced onto the unlimited plan due to using too much data on my semi smart phone. With MORE AND MORE smart phones being used now IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE. LETS MAKE THEM FIX THEIR NETWORKS RATHER THAN SCREW US IN THE LONG RUN.
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I don't use the minutes I have to pay for, so that is like tip money every month. if they don't have bandwidth, then they need to stop accepting new accounts or get more. I mostly use wifi, but if people want to pay for every extra gb every month, then let them. if they still have unlimited and are abusing it, then close their accounts or raise their bills. there is no reason to slow people down. customers should not pay for att mistakes. that is like selling more tickets for an event than you have seats/space.
For customers on an unlimited plan with a 3G or "4G" phone (i.e. HSPA+), you'll now be able to enjoy full data speeds up to 3GB, after which you'll then see your speeds decrease until the start of the next billing cycle. If you have a 4G LTE phone, however, you'll have a full 5GB to play with before the throttling kicks in.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/01/...ttling-changes-now-kicks-in-at-3gb-or-5gb-fo/
Glad they cleared that up, even though throttling still sucks. I got throttled for the first time in February after I hit 2.1GB. At least now I know I can go up to 3GB.
I wonder if I can smooth talk a CR to switch me to an Unlimited 4G LTE plan so I can go up to 5GB and not be throttled?
Hmmmmmm, still doesn't sound "unlimited" to me...
Maybe at that point my phone bill should be throttled since I'm really not getting "unlimited" that I pay for.
Guess at least they finally made an announcement
So $10 every GB before throttling was the math they used.
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For customers on an unlimited plan with a 3G or "4G" phone (i.e. HSPA+), you'll now be able to enjoy full data speeds up to 3GB, after which you'll then see your speeds decrease until the start of the next billing cycle. If you have a 4G LTE phone, however, you'll have a full 5GB to play with before the throttling kicks in.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/01/...ttling-changes-now-kicks-in-at-3gb-or-5gb-fo/
Glad they cleared that up, even though throttling still sucks. I got throttled for the first time in February after I hit 2.1GB. At least now I know I can go up to 3GB.
I wonder if I can smooth talk a CR to switch me to an Unlimited 4G LTE plan so I can go up to 5GB and not be throttled?
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I just saw this as well! Heh. bout time they wised up.
jasvncnt1 said:
Hmmmmmm, still doesn't sound "unlimited" to me...
Maybe at that point my phone bill should be throttled since I'm really not getting "unlimited" that I pay for.
Guess at least they finally made an announcement
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They're still giving you unlimited data, but there is not guarantee of speed.
Do a lot of people in general actually use 3GB data a month? Outside of download porn, I'd have to try real hard to get to 2GB.
Basically we're grandfathered into an "unlimited" 3GB, after which you get about as much data as a dumbphone.
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They're still giving you unlimited data, but there is not guarantee of speed.
Do a lot of people in general actually use 3GB data a month? Outside of download porn, I'd have to try real hard to get to 2GB.
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I get that..but once you get throttled the speeds are just about worthless.
What if you buy a car and they say, yup you can drive it for 5 miles as fast as ya want. But after 5 miles your going to be dropped back to 20 miles an hour
Its AT&Ts subtle way of forcing users off of the Unlimited plan and get on a tiered plan... which would be 3GB anyway. So why would a person pay$30 to get 3GB when they currently pay $25 and can go up to 3GB and then be throttled but still get a little more? I dont like the idea of being throttled either, but they've been doing it for a year and they are not going to stop... so Im tired of seeing people complain about something that wont change... yet our plan is still better than the 3GB tiered plan.
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They're still giving you unlimited data, but there is not guarantee of speed.
Do a lot of people in general actually use 3GB data a month? Outside of download porn, I'd have to try real hard to get to 2GB.
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I go way over 3GB every month. But, I make no effort to use wifi unless I am downloading something 300MB+ (read: video podcasts, TV shows). Here is my past usage. That month that I am under 5GB is the only month I am under 5GB in the past 12. That month I switched to wifi whenever possible, to see the minimum amount of data I could use without changing my use habits. I don't have access to wifi at work, and seldom in public. I don't tether, or download porn, or torrent (when on data, I do torrent, but switch to wifi).
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Never been warned of throttling, or throttled. But, I never see speeds as fast as 3MBps in my "4G" town.
I'm fine with throttling after a certain level. I think it makes sense, and makes it easier to understand. If I start to be throttled I know I will have to change my use habits, that's life. Why fight what we can't change? Where I live att is the only carrier that provides stable data. Sprint is useless, Verizon's 3G kinda works, and TMo won't even get edge connectivity. But, att pushes 2-3 MBps consistently, and calls never drop (after turning in my iPhone). I expect they will test this for a while, as they continue to tweak the throttle threshold and speed. I also expect them to bring back unlimited, like TMobile does it. So that everyone is "Unlimited", and you select how much data you want at full speed. I see this as the groundwork for that. Att is the carrier most vocal about data usage expected to increase like 20,000 fold in the next 3-5 years.
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Hmmmmmm, still doesn't sound "unlimited" to me...
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not that I agree with throttling but yes, that still is unlimited. They're not stopping your data after 3GB. They're just slowing it down. Thats still an unlimited plan, so there's nothing illegal with this.
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not that I agree with throttling but yes, that still is unlimited. They're not stopping your data after 3GB. They're just slowing it down. Thats still an unlimited plan, so there's nothing illegal with this.
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Who said anything about illegal?
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What do they throttle speeds at?
If it was 5gb then I wouldn't mind so much, but 3gb just seems not right.
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not that I agree with throttling but yes, that still is unlimited. They're not stopping your data after 3GB. They're just slowing it down. Thats still an unlimited plan, so there's nothing illegal with this.
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Exactly my point. I don't agree with it either, but after they're throttling you you're still getting data.
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Exactly my point. I don't agree with it either, but after they're throttling you you're still getting data.
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I only been throttled once, and have you actually tried using throttled internet?
It takes forever to even load XDA.
At least they have clarified when they will begin throttling. One day, some enterprising mind will start up a GSM cell carrier with unlimited data! Or some enterprising mind at a current GSM carrier will bring back unlimited data.
I do go over by 5 by 2-3 gbs month because i use it for my work internet source. Questionable on illegal, but highly unethical. Unlimited speed is implied as well as amount. Thats like me asking for the money back from the previous 7 or 8 years that i was never getting close to 1GB, let alone 5, or the thousands of dropped calls throughout the years... They should just suck it up till our contracts end then require you to get a new plan.
Oh well ... thats my soap box
Oh, yeah they throttle to snail pace. Minute to open a page in browser is ridiculous...
Now I'm done
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Unbelievable. I'm angry at myself for canceling my unlimited data plan just two weeks ago to get the 3GB tiered plan, because they were throttling my unlimited plan at 2GB.
I'm going to call them and see if there is anything they can do about this..
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Exactly my point. I don't agree with it either, but after they're throttling you you're still getting data.
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Umm....not really. It's pretty unusable. They've recently bumped up the speed to about 270 kbps (it was previously around 100 kbps), but I still think it's over the top. If they bump the speed up more, raise the limit at which throttling will happen, and only throttle during peak times, I'd be alright with it. What's the point of throttling during off peak times, when no one is using data?
I also think they should discriminate throttling based on saturation.
The current method completely alienates a fair amount of their customers.
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I only been throttled once, and have you actually tried using throttled internet? . . .
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Wow, I just bought the phone Saturday!
Triggered the default 2GB of data warning already.
I'd never make it on another carrier, I'd be buried in data overages.
I haven't tethered, watched any lengthy video or streamed any media.
Thank Dan for unlimited data.
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Nice sir but would you mind me asking what are you using so much data on? 0.0
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Nice sir but would you mind me asking what are you using so much data on? 0.0
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porns!!!
Cause of the whole HTC custom delay I almost went with AT&T till I realize how easy it is to go over 2gb of data. 2gb isn't much at all.
shook187 said:
Cause of the whole HTC custom delay I almost went with AT&T till I realize how easy it is to go over 2gb of data. 2gb isn't much at all.
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Theirs is really only 2gb? Holy crap. I was thinking it was 5 gb when I was telling people at work how you can't beat Sprint's unlimited data.
I'm on wifi a lot of the time (home and work) so I really limit my sprint network usage.
According to my stats (reset on the 1st), I've used 450 mb in the last 6 days on mobile and 900 mb on wifi. I feel like I've had pretty light usage this past week too. I'm going to be house sitting for a week starting tomorrow so I expect to use AT&T's cap over 3g in a matter of days
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Not even sure really, hell the Google+ is a huge head scratcher, I've come back to it sure but only a few minutes here & there, hell you'd think I lived on it looking at the image .
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I agree OP - if/when Sprint drops unlimited data I am EXTREMELY SCREWED
Kujila said:
I agree OP - if/when Sprint drops unlimited data I am EXTREMELY SCREWED
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Hell if Sprint drops unlimited data THEY would be extremely screwed lol. No other reason to stay on a ****ty network with limited data...
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Theirs is really only 2gb? Holy crap. I was thinking it was 5 gb when I was telling people at work how you can't beat Sprint's unlimited data.
I'm on wifi a lot of the time (home and work) so I really limit my sprint network usage.
According to my stats (reset on the 1st), I've used 450 mb in the last 6 days on mobile and 900 mb on wifi. I feel like I've had pretty light usage this past week too. I'm going to be house sitting for a week starting tomorrow so I expect to use AT&T's cap over 3g in a matter of days
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you do realize this is just the default settings in the usage app on this phone right? 2GB was not placed there by Sprint and you can actually increase what you want the Data warning to be as i just did in this photo
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you do realize this is just the default settings in the usage app on this phone right? 2GB was not placed there by Sprint and you can actually increase what you want the Data warning to be as i just did in this photo
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Yes I fully understand that's just the default warning...I had ICS on my Evo 3D and saw the warning and adjusted it to no cap. I was just meaning to say how crappy it would be to really be limited at just 2GB.
SPreston2001 said:
Hell if Sprint drops unlimited data THEY would be extremely screwed lol. No other reason to stay on a ****ty network with limited data...
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You better say that .... Unlimited is the only reason why I have stayed with sprint so long. considering leaving because of all the lies they tell.
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BrianBaker said:
you do realize this is just the default settings in the usage app on this phone right? 2GB was not placed there by Sprint and you can actually increase what you want the Data warning to be as i just did in this photo
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Yeah, this may be true.... but why pre-install a data tracker on a phone whose network is unlimited. Kinda pointless unless you plan on changing something very shortly. Sprint can monitor people abusing the unlimited data so It just seems a bit fishy. Sprint is notorious for telling the customer one thing and doing another. Secondly why is this tracker only on an LTE phone.
Are you using the photo upload on google + and dropbox over 3G?
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Yeah, this may be true.... but why pre-install a data tracker on a phone whose network is unlimited. Kinda pointless unless you plan on changing something very shortly.
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It's just part of ICS...not like Sprint added it in. They would have had to gone out of their way to remove the data tracker and then people would get mad that built in features have been removed.
My desktop PC has built in battery monitoring capabilities. It's never going to be battery powered but it's just part of the OS
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It's just part of ICS...not like Sprint added it in. They would have had to gone out of their way to remove the data tracker and then people would get mad that built in features have been removed.
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O how true that is people would of had a fit
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Hell if Sprint drops unlimited data THEY would be extremely screwed lol. No other reason to stay on a ****ty network with limited data...
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That's the ONLY reason I stay on sprint!! Even though it takes longer to do anything, I can still do a lot more than on any other network for the price. I always use over 4gigs every month. Would be a lot more if it counted what I use on WiFi.
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Are you using the photo upload on google + and dropbox over 3G?
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Ahh, the auto photo uploads. Wow if I racked that up from the current camera app, thats nuts.
Yes, I am.
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Wow, I just bought the phone Saturday!
Triggered the default 2GB of data warning already.
I'd never make it on another carrier, I'd be buried in data overages.
I haven't tethered, watched any lengthy video or streamed any media.
Thank Dan for unlimited data.
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If you don't mind me asking... how the hell did you use 2gb of data on sorry ass sprint 3g. If i streamed video for a month straight i think it would buffer for half of the time, not even letting me reach 2gb.
It's not "sorry", everywhere. My area is ok 3G wise. Sprint outpaces Verizon 3G in my area.
I'm away from home now but this is the crappiest I've had:
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Been with sprint for 13.years... As soon as they drop my unlimited I'm going to tmobile.. It blazes around me..
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Noiro said:
It's not "sorry", everywhere. My area is ok 3G wise. Sprint outpaces Verizon 3G in my area.
I'm away from home now but this is the crappiest I've had:
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Yeah I get around 600-700kbps on download but that is more than enough for the things I'll be doing on the go. I can even stream Netflix with no buffer (after the initial one, of course). It honestly is not that bad but then again I don't live in a busy area. I reckon in that scenario it would suck.
I had an interesting experience with Sprint's customer service the other day... I had finally pulled the plug on them and switched to Verizon and the Droid DNA. I wrote a quick note to [email protected] telling them that I'm leaving because I still had no date for LTE in Milwaukee and I was sick of waiting without any information from Sprint.
I got an email back from a customer service agent saying basically that they hoped I would be back in 2 years to enjoy unlimited data.
So I called their bluff: I told them that I would like a signed letter stating that if I returned to Sprint in 2 years, they would need to honor my unlimited plan. Basically, put up or shut up.
Here's the response I got:
Per our conversation yesterday; I do assure you that Sprint is committed
to providing outstanding service. I understand the value of our
unlimited data. It is Sprint's hope to continue to offer unlimited data;
however our plans are subject to change and I am unable to determine
what plans will be available in 2015.
It was a pleasure to speak with you. I do hope you return to the Sprint
family in the future.
Thank you for choosing Sprint.
Sincerely,
Sarah B.
xxx-xxx-xxxx
Sprint
So, I leave it up to you to take what you want from that statement, but to me it looks like they are going to yank the unlimited data on their customers as soon as they get everything in place. Just my thoughts... don't shoot the messenger.
On a side note, Verizon's LTE speed buries the needle on Speed Test and the coverage is excellent. The quad-core DNA is the best HTC device I've owned. It's so nice to be done with Sprint.
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So, I leave it up to you to take what you want from that statement, but to me it looks like they are going to yank the unlimited data on their customers as soon as they get everything in place. Just my thoughts... don't shoot the messenger.
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No one really has unlimited data today. All of the carriers will cancel your service if you use enough data, unless of course you are paying per MB, even if that usage comes from downloading four or five ROM's directly to your phone each day and/or steaming too many movies. They just don't like heavy data users even though it's supposed to be unlimited.
Virgin Mobile is in the process of throttling 4G usage after a limit is reached and I would expect Sprint to do the same thing. My WiMax/4G coverage is pretty good (~8 mbps down and 1.3 mbps up) but we have no target for LTE in my area either so I feel for you and may be looking at an M7 or Nexus 4 with Verizon or T-Mobile when my contract is up in June as well.
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may be looking at an M7 or Nexus 4 with Verizon
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Maybe this would help your decision:
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But how much data do you get per month? That's just gonna let you use it up that much faster. :laugh:
I would definitely want to test Verizon's LTE against T-Mobile's HSPA+ in my area before making a decision, but at least those options are available unlike Sprint's LTE.
ramjet73
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But how much data do you get per month? That's just gonna let you use it up that much faster. :laugh:
I would definitely want to test Verizon's LTE against T-Mobile's HSPA+ in my area before making a decision, but at least those options are available unlike Sprint's LTE.
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My wife and I share 4gb. In the first month we used 600mb. I've learned to leave Wifi on and let it tell me when there's a hot spot available. So most places, when I'm not driving, I'm on Wifi.
I encourage you to leave Wifi on all the time and run 3g watchdog or somehow monitor your usage and you might find that you use a lot less than you think you do.
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My wife and I share 4gb. In the first month we used 600mb. I've learned to leave Wifi on and let it tell me when there's a hot spot available. So most places, when I'm not driving, I'm on Wifi.
I encourage you to leave Wifi on all the time and run 3g watchdog or somehow monitor your usage and you might find that you use a lot less than you think you do.
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I agree with you 100%, but WiFi is just as good using a Sprint phone as anyone else's. I'd prefer to have unlimited data, even if it gets throttled at some point, and not have to worry about tracking my usage. And WiMax is the closet thing to mobile WiFi so I'll just continue to use that until I get a phone that doesn't support it.
I'm actually considering a Nexus 4 on a T-Mobile pre-paid plan that has 100 voice minutes but unlimited texting and data, with 5GB/month of 4G (HSPA+) data degraded to 3G when that threshold is reached, for $30 a month. I could use VoIP for outgoing calls and save the 100 minutes for incoming.
ramjet73
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No one really has unlimited data today. All of the carriers will cancel your service if you use enough data, unless of course you are paying per MB, even if that usage comes from downloading four or five ROM's directly to your phone each day and/or steaming too many movies. They just don't like heavy data users even though it's supposed to be unlimited.
I'm actually considering a Nexus 4 on a T-Mobile pre-paid plan that has 100 voice minutes but unlimited texting and data, with 5GB/month of 4G (HSPA+) data degraded to 3G when that threshold is reached, for $30 a month. I could use VoIP for outgoing calls and save the 100 minutes for incoming.
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Is the 3G after 5GB 4g is unlimited? I mean can you go beyond 50GB or will they shut the 3g off?
And about How much data does sprint allows on unlimited plan?
mnomaanw said:
Is the 3G after 5GB 4g is unlimited? I mean can you go beyond 50GB or will they shut the 3g off?
And about How much data does sprint allows on unlimited plan?
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For T-Mobile there is not supposed to be a limit on the 3G usage after the 5GB 4G allocation is exceeded, but as I said previously I'm sure that if your data usage becomes what T-Mobile considers excessive you may risk cancellation of your services.
Here's the wording in the T-Mobile terms and conditions that relate to data usage:
Permissible and Prohibited Uses: Your Data Plan is intended for Web browsing, messaging, and similar activities on your Device and not on any other equipment. Unless explicitly permitted by your Data Plan, other uses, including for example, using your Device as a modem or tethering your Device to a personal computer or other hardware, are not permitted. Other examples of prohibited uses can be found in Section 18. Protective Measures: To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth. In addition, if your total usage exceeds 5GB (amount is subject to change without notice; please check T-Mobile's T&Cs on www.T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle. If you use your Data Plan in a manner that could interfere with other customers' service, affect our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or degrade service quality for other customers, we may suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, or switch you to a more appropriate Data Plan. We also manage our network to facilitate the proper functioning of services that require consistent high speeds, such as video calling, which may, particularly at times and in areas of network congestion, result in reduced speeds for other services. Additionally, we may implement other network management practices, such as caching less data, using less capacity, and sizing video more appropriately for a Device to transmit data files more efficiently. These practices are agnostic to the content itself and to the websites that provide it. While we avoid changing text, image, and video files in the compression process when practical, the process may impact the appearance of files as displayed on your Device.
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I suspect Sprint's policies are very similar even though they advertise "unlimited" data plans.
ramjet73
I agree that "unlimited data" is an endangered species. After all, any one cell tower's bandwidth is limited to the bandwidth over landlines. Unless a site is fiber fed, the bandwidth is limited to copper lines, which are limited by distance and condition of the plant. Inevitably, the bandwidth will be used up as devices get faster, and more people use wireless services. To sum it up, and without ignoring the carriers responsibility to provide cost effective service, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."
Only thing they care about is roaming. Don't roam and you will be alright. If yu use over 50gb a month, then you are doing something outside your phone anyway.