So those of you who received the OTA update...
Have you noticed any improvements related to the radio? Things like battery life and signal strength/holding.
I am wondering if I should take the time to re-lock and RUU for the radio update.
It would be so much easier if we had a way to flash the radio. Even a round about way would be nice.
I will try to keep up with this, and keep this post updated with the general consensus. It will be easier than reading through all the different threads.
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Most are reporting that the new radio is a significant improvement. At worst, a few say that they see no improvement, but that it isn't hurting anything either.
I was wondering this myself. Also won't thus update your main version making it a pain to flash a different kernel
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Anyone Worried About mainver Issues, Just Extract The boot.img From The ROM And Flash It In Fastboot. Doesn't Matter What mainver You Have.
Flash The boot.img First So If The ROM Automatically Goes To The Bootloader You Can Select Reboot And Not hboot.
Stocked and updated. Last night my battery was very impressive. I probably average 6.5 hours on my battery since I got the phone and last night I hit 8.5 with 45% left. I did use it less than normal since I was busy but I've never come close to that even with the extended battery. I'll be out again today and will be away from a charger for a good 12 hours so we'll see. Oh
I did shut down 4G, but I do work outside of the 4G network so my battery life comparison still holds water. Other than the 4G being turned off, my phone is set on Auto brightness. Everything else is running at the highest level.
KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
Marine6680 said:
So those of you who received the OTA update...
Have you noticed any improvements related to the radio? Things like battery life and signal strength/holding.
I am wondering if I should take the time to re-lock and RUU for the radio update.
It would be so much easier if we had a way to flash the radio. Even a round about way would be nice.
I will try to keep up with this, and keep this post updated with the general consensus. It will be easier than reading through all the different threads.
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Honestly, I am in a 3G only area and haven't noticed any difference with my signal strength. I live rural and at home only get 1-2 signal bars with db about -83 to -91 which is about what I had before.
In the nearest city, I get 5 full bars and db is about -53 , but never really looked at it before. I always had 4 full bars in the city though so that is the same. Haven't noticed a big diff with 3G either, I never lose it anyway so can't tell. Maybe when I travel more when the Weather warms up I will notice on my trips farther into the rural areas.
Wasn't really that big of a deal to go through the process and I just looked at it as practice if I ever have to RUU again.
I relocked and flashed the Firmware update and the first thing I noticed was how much louder it was speaking to someone on the phone. I actually had to turn the volume down a bit. I'm hoping this sound also translates to the speaker.
It's honestly a fairly easy process..took me like 20 minutes to do.
As For The Signal Strength Difference YES It Is Much Better. I Used To Have -75 -80dBm And Now It's Up To -65 -70dBm.
Marine6680 said:
So those of you who received the OTA update...
Have you noticed any improvements related to the radio? Things like battery life and signal strength/holding.
I am wondering if I should take the time to re-lock and RUU for the radio update.
It would be so much easier if we had a way to flash the radio. Even a round about way would be nice.
I will try to keep up with this, and keep this post updated with the general consensus. It will be easier than reading through all the different threads.[/QUOT
The new radio gives me a stronger signal at home and my calls sound a lot better now with the new radio.
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I'm definitely seeing better signal strength. It was prety good before but I'm getting strong 4g in some places where it had been spotty, so the radio is an improvement.
Not sure about the battery life yet. It seems about the same. I'm sitting at about 40% after 12hrs 40mins right now, but that's with 4g turned off most of the time and using juice defender. Not heavy usage at all-couple of phone calls, bunch of texts, some web stuff, words with friends and streamed a few songs (again, 4g off most of the time cuz none of that stuff needs it).
The five signal bars looks nice, but really doesn't affect anything important.
Overall happy with the update. Haven't unlocked/rooted yet so there weren't any hoops to jump through. Was waiting for S-Off but will probably go ahead and root soon because the bloatware is bugging me!
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Plus it has fixed the audio hissing/whining!
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Am I the only one who updated the OTA on an unlocked bootloader? I didn't lock, update, unlock and I haven't noticed any issues.
At home I always had poor reception with my HTC inc only getting 1-2 bars at most and I returned a Galaxy Nexus since I was only getting 1 bar of 3g/4g. The Rezound however is 3 out of 5 and about -86 dBm. I know VZ likes to change the signal bars over time but at least its not flip flopping like the GN was doing.
So I have had the updated ota (hboot, radio, etc) since yesterday.
Fiancee drug me to the mall like usual today. Before the update I was unhappy with the Rezound for it did not get signal where my old HTC Incredible did. I spent many a shopping trip with no signal at all, and resorting to watching a movie while she did the changing room shuffle.
Well now after the OTA, I had signal throughout the entire mall, including 4g, in the exact same places as the Incredible did. This mall plays hell on signal (like im sure alot of big malls do.)
Just my .02
So it seems the radio is better at holding signal.
The real question... do I want to get the new hboot or not... New hboot means that s=off is even less likely.
Not too much of an issue with Dev unlock, but still prefered.
joblabbo said:
Am I the only one who updated the OTA on an unlocked bootloader? I didn't lock, update, unlock and I haven't noticed any issues.
At home I always had poor reception with my HTC inc only getting 1-2 bars at most and I returned a Galaxy Nexus since I was only getting 1 bar of 3g/4g. The Rezound however is 3 out of 5 and about -86 dBm. I know VZ likes to change the signal bars over time but at least its not flip flopping like the GN was doing.
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That's how I did it as well. It downloaded and everything. Unless it just didn't apply.
Nah, I had an unlocked bootloader as well. OTA went through just fine. It didn't care. Only issue I had was the frozen apps had to be restored before it would install.
joblabbo said:
Am I the only one who updated the OTA on an unlocked bootloader? I didn't lock, update, unlock and I haven't noticed any issues.
At home I always had poor reception with my HTC inc only getting 1-2 bars at most and I returned a Galaxy Nexus since I was only getting 1 bar of 3g/4g. The Rezound however is 3 out of 5 and about -86 dBm. I know VZ likes to change the signal bars over time but at least its not flip flopping like the GN was doing.
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Same here with the galaxy nexus, had to take it back because of the ridiculous signal flip flopping. After the radio update, I haven't noticed a difference yet, and I haven't placed any phone calls either to check the clarity. I live in a pretty strong signal area, but my signal is weak at work, going from 4g to 3g a lot. It'll get the real test tomorrow at work. Hope it's better.
joblabbo said:
Am I the only one who updated the OTA on an unlocked bootloader? I didn't lock, update, unlock and I haven't noticed any issues.
At home I always had poor reception with my HTC inc only getting 1-2 bars at most and I returned a Galaxy Nexus since I was only getting 1 bar of 3g/4g. The Rezound however is 3 out of 5 and about -86 dBm. I know VZ likes to change the signal bars over time but at least its not flip flopping like the GN was doing.
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No sir! I was unlocked, bone stock perma rooted and I flashed the stock recovery and accepted the update. I lost root but remained unlocked. I pushed Amon back on and flashed su in recovery and I'm good.
I did try to flash Tachi's ICS and I got the mainversion issue. I got back to my stock gb. What's the best way to go about fixing that so I can flash other roms?
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majorhunadadun said:
No sir! I was unlocked, bone stock perma rooted and I flashed the stock recovery and accepted the update. I lost root but remained unlocked. I pushed Amon back on and flashed su in recovery and I'm good.
I did try to flash Tachi's ICS and I got the mainversion issue. I got back to my stock gb. What's the best way to go about fixing that so I can flash other roms?
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There are ways around the updated MainVer... Scotts cleanROM is updated with the new MainVer so it will flash fine.
tynman11 said:
Plus it has fixed the audio hissing/whining!
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What hissing/whining?
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I did try to flash Tachi's ICS and I got the mainversion issue. I got back to my stock gb. What's the best way to go about fixing that so I can flash other roms?
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You can download the android-info.txt file in the developer section and place that in the PH98IMG.zip file of the ROM you want to install (/kernel directory)... or you can take the boot.img from that zip file in the /kernel/ directory of that ROM and flash it in fastboot.. via:
ensure usb debugging mode is enabled/and have the boot.img/fastboot.exe in the same directory... open cmd prompt. cd to that directory. then type:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
then flash the rom in recovery.
a few more steps... or you could read the guide on hex-editing some file to change the version back to the old one ( i haven't tried this. others have and they've been successful)
Good luck.
The one from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352844
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I'm pretty new to HTC phones, is there a way to change just the radio file?
On my Galaxy S it was extremely easy to flash a lot of different radio files to the phone and do some data testing with them to see which one works the best in different areas.
I've been getting really crappy data speeds since we got the OTA update a week or so ago. I like most of the stuff in the OTA, I just want to flash back to the prior radio.
Is this something that's possible?
derek4484 said:
I'm pretty new to HTC phones, is there a way to change just the radio file?
On my Galaxy S it was extremely easy to flash a lot of different radio files to the phone and do some data testing with them to see which one works the best in different areas.
I've been getting really crappy data speeds since we got the OTA update a week or so ago. I like most of the stuff in the OTA, I just want to flash back to the prior radio.
Is this something that's possible?
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With S-On we can't flash radios, except the OTA , but I think Con pulled the radio files and made them flashable in his Stock rom OTA thread for people that were having main ver issues and couldn't flash the OTA.
So, I think if you changed your main ver back using the main ver fix you could flash the original RUU prior to the OTA , then flash the Con rom with the updated radios pulled out . So then you would have original radios with the rest of the OTA updates. Sorry if this is confusing, trying to explain the best I can.
mjh68 said:
With S-On we can't flash radios, except the OTA , but I think Con pulled the radio files and made them flashable in his Stock rom OTA thread for people that were having main ver issues and couldn't flash the OTA.
So, I think if you changed your main ver back using the main ver fix you could flash the original RUU prior to the OTA , then flash the Con rom with the updated radios pulled out . So then you would have original radios with the rest of the OTA updates. Sorry if this is confusing, trying to explain the best I can.
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No, I'm pretty sure I understand what you're saying. Edit my mainver back to 1.0.0 then RUU back to how it was stock/new. Then flash Con's ROM that includes the OTA updates and bug fixes, but his ROM sticks with the older radio file.
I think I'll try that.
I wonder if others are noticing a serious drop off in data speeds as a result of this new radio. I mean even my wifi is a lot slower. My home internet connection is 15Mbps down, and before I could get 14-15M over wifi, now I cant get over 5M, meanwhile my mac and my laptop both still get 15M so I know its not a cable modem or wifi router issue, its an issue only with this phone.
derek4484 said:
No, I'm pretty sure I understand what you're saying. Edit my mainver back to 1.0.0 then RUU back to how it was stock/new. Then flash Con's ROM that includes the OTA updates and bug fixes, but his ROM sticks with the older radio file.
I think I'll try that.
I wonder if others are noticing a serious drop off in data speeds as a result of this new radio. I mean even my wifi is a lot slower. My home internet connection is 15Mbps down, and before I could get 14-15M over wifi, now I cant get over 5M, meanwhile my mac and my laptop both still get 15M so I know its not a cable modem or wifi router issue, its an issue only with this phone.
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Well, I think Con does have 2 versions or I know there are 2 versions out there. One with updated radios and one without . I have the new radios and get about 11mbps down and I have the 15mbps service as well.
mjh68 said:
Well, I think Con does have 2 versions or I know there are 2 versions out there. One with updated radios and one without . I have the new radios and get about 11mbps down and I have the 15mbps service as well.
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Before the update on 4G I could get 28M down, 14M up on a consistent basis. All different times of the day and different locations around town. Now since the update, its considerably slower. Like 6-12M down and 1-2M up. Night and day difference. What I dont know is, if Verizon is doing this on purpose or if it's just a flaw in the new radio.
Also, like I said above, my wifi performance has been basically cut into third of what it was. Which is ridiculous.
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Before the update on 4G I could get 28M down, 14M up on a consistent basis. All different times of the day and different locations around town. Now since the update, its considerably slower. Like 6-12M down and 1-2M up. Night and day difference. What I dont know is, if Verizon is doing this on purpose or if it's just a flaw in the new radio.
Also, like I said above, my wifi performance has been basically cut into third of what it was. Which is ridiculous.
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It is ridiculous, I don't have 4g in my area yet, but from the numbers I can't wait dang !
Since upgrading to the new base/radio, I've noticed that my 4G speed is good and fast. But my call reception is terrible.
I was on Nils' v3.0 first, and I thought the iffy call quality was due to some trouble spots at work.
But now I'm running Joel's BAMF and it's like I can't compete a call without a dropout.
Data is crazy fast on both ROMs, but the call issues are killing me.
Do you think maybe there was a problem with the RUU install? Is there anything I can do, short of a complete reinstall?
Bump.
Sorry for pushing this, but I really need some help here.
It seems to be a conflict within the radios used by the radio app and the ones used to conect with the mobile netwok....
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I tried disabling mobile data and making a call, but there was still a lot of reception dropout.
Any other ideas?
BBEgo said:
I tried disabling mobile data and making a call, but there was still a lot of reception dropout.
Any other ideas?
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i havent seen this yet. in fact my call quality has improved with the latest ruu and the 4g speeds stayed the same. you could try relocking it, flashing the ruu, unlocking, then a rom of your choice. but i dont see how that would help at all.
I'm just thinking maybe the radio flash didn't go quite right? I'm just running out of other ideas.
Tonight when I get home I'm gonna try the stock battery with the original cover. Maybe all the battery pulling goofed up my extended battery cover's antenna?
I am running the stock ICS leak on a stock phone and my reception is fine.
Somebody recomended installing the RUU twice to eleminate chances of problems.
That's what I did and have not had the first problem yet.
It's not running it twice. More like it updates hboot then needs to be rebooted back into the updated hboot to complete the rest of the update.
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I tried going back to my stock battery and cover to see if I was having an antenna problem on my extended battery back cover, but there was no noticeable improvement in cell reception.
Again, data was great, but calls were dropping with alarming regularity.
I decided that it was likely due to a bad flash of the RUU with the new base, so I hunkered down and went through the process again. Re-lock; RUU; Unlock; Flash Amon Ra Recovery; Flash Joel New Firmware Kernel; Wipe Data, Cache, and System; Flash BAMF; Boot...
It's late, but I called Best Buy's auto line. I got through the whole list of options without an audio dropout. Tomorrow will be the real test, but I'm encouraged. Wish me luck!
BBEgo said:
I tried going back to my stock battery and cover to see if I was having an antenna problem on my extended battery back cover, but there was no noticeable improvement in cell reception.
Again, data was great, but calls were dropping with alarming regularity.
I decided that it was likely due to a bad flash of the RUU with the new base, so I hunkered down and went through the process again. Re-lock; RUU; Unlock; Flash Amon Ra Recovery; Flash Joel New Firmware Kernel; Wipe Data, Cache, and System; Flash BAMF; Boot...
It's late, but I called Best Buy's auto line. I got through the whole list of options without an audio dropout. Tomorrow will be the real test, but I'm encouraged. Wish me luck!
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If this works for you, I think I'll get off the bench and into the game.
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The Reinstall of the RUU did not fix my radio problem.
Man, I look forward to the next base leak. My data is great, but call sound quality and reception reliability is REALLY bad.
Is it a regional thing? Is anyone else running on the new base and living in the Riverside/Corona CA area?
Is it a phone thing? Is it just my phone that doesn't like this update? I have done these a few times in the past, and I haven't had any other issues. My Radio numbers and HBOOT versions all show correct. The ROMs I've run (Nils' ICS 3.0 and BAMF 1.1 and 1.2) on this new base all work great, and behave as we've all read about in the development section. Everything else is fine.
Does anybody else have any ideas? Thanks
Not even sure if we have any choices here, but the new ICS leak has a weaker radio imao. I don't get as good of a connection in some places as before. Is there list of radios yet? Google no show here...
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Mine improved, a bit. Sorry.
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weak radio
Bronyr said:
Not even sure if we have any choices here, but the new ICS leak has a weaker radio imao. I don't get as good of a connection in some places as before. Is there list of radios yet? Google no show here...
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I noticed the same issues....strong on wifi at work but weak and slow at home and my mobile network suuucks...but i am happy to be ics'd finally....
I think the updated radio is improved. I was doing internet speed test against the OneS and it was just as fast if not faster than it. But WiFi (after testing for a day) is really shoddy. It's slow do upload anything data related after rebooting my router and modem. I get faster speeds with 4G on 2bars..lol
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
sub'd. I'd like to see what everyone else has to say about the radio. Like I said in the other thread, I get terrible reception at work and I really don't want to make it worse.
I always get 3-full bars
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my wifi is tons stonger
The radio in this ICS ROM leak is definitely worse. I sit in the same place at work everyday, and where I usually use to get a consistent 4 bars, I get 0 - 2, and sometimes 4. It just fluctuates wayyyyyy too much. Data speeds may be a little faster, but if I have no signal, data doesn't do much good. Pings are much higher too.
Are there other options here. I'm not sure I can bare. My signal at home is not far inferior too, and I always had 3 - 4 bars, as I have the Cel-fi booster.
Double0EK said:
I think the updated radio is improved. I was doing internet speed test against the OneS and it was just as fast if not faster than it. But WiFi (after testing for a day) is really shoddy. It's slow do upload anything data related after rebooting my router and modem. I get faster speeds with 4G on 2bars..lol
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My wifi doesn't even work at all. Bummer.
I got a text today from T-Mobile saying that they have free signal boosters. Basically if you call them and say you have bad signal at home, they'll send you a signal booster free of charge. The catch? You need to live in a single family home, you need to have bad signal at home, and it'll reset your contract to 2 years from the day you request the signal booster.
(I just called and ordered mine earlier today)
Can you go back to the old radios?
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aiwapro said:
The radio in this ICS ROM leak is definitely worse. I sit in the same place at work everyday, and where I usually use to get a consistent 4 bars, I get 0 - 2, and sometimes 4. It just fluctuates wayyyyyy too much. Data speeds may be a little faster, but if I have no signal, data doesn't do much good. Pings are much higher too.
Are there other options here. I'm not sure I can bare. My signal at home is not far inferior too, and I always had 3 - 4 bars, as I have the Cel-fi booster.
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I can definitely second this. With the ICS radio, my signal is about half what it used to be in the office. I also have issues where I have signal and a data connection, but the phone will still not make/receive calls or txts until I recycle the radio or restart the phone. I suspect we'll see another firmware out before the official release. My guess is that this is the hold up for a final release since everything else seems pretty smooth - even wifi calling is working great at home.
ziggy46 said:
Can you go back to the old radios?
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normally, a radio version from a prior build will work on a newer build, but not in reverse. once you updated to ics, you can not use a gb radio afaik
example
on gb firmware, can use ics rom with gb radio
on ics firmware, have to use ics radio on gb/ics rom
needless to say, were stuck with the ics radio until they update it
Mines works great, although i flashed a radio from Android HD not sure if that worked well after super wipe.
Bronyr said:
Not even sure if we have any choices here, but the new ICS leak has a weaker radio imao. I don't get as good of a connection in some places as before. Is there list of radios yet? Google no show here...
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Yesterday I woke up, looked at my phone and it kept saying 4G with full bars..... tried to load facebook..... wouldn't load....
Turned phone off, then on..... service disappeared altogether
Battery Pulled x2
Started working..... at sh!tty speeds!
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mrmako777 said:
normally, a radio version from a prior build will work on a newer build, but not in reverse. once you updated to ics, you can not use a gb radio afaik
example
on gb firmware, can use ics rom with gb radio
on ics firmware, have to use ics radio on gb/ics rom
needless to say, were stuck with the ics radio until they update it
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LOL. Speak for yourself, I'm thinking about going back to my precious Energy Rom until the official update comes out.... or stock ics rom
mznatnat said:
Yesterday I woke up, looked at my phone and it kept saying 4G with full bars..... tried to load facebook..... wouldn't load....
Turned phone off, then on..... service disappeared altogether
Battery Pulled x2
Started working..... at sh!tty speeds!
W
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LOL. Speak for yourself, I'm thinking about going back to my precious Energy Rom until the official update comes out.... or stock ics rom
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Did you get throttled like I did? Cuz 3.6 is/was fast as Hell on my phone till the throttle hit
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kered424 said:
I got a text today from T-Mobile saying that they have free signal boosters. Basically if you call them and say you have bad signal at home, they'll send you a signal booster free of charge. The catch? You need to live in a single family home, you need to have bad signal at home, and it'll reset your contract to 2 years from the day you request the signal booster.
(I just called and ordered mine earlier today)
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That's the thing, I have had the booster for almost a year maybe, and it works pretty well, but since switching to this ICS leaked ROM, my signal is terrible, even with the booster.
I have S-On, HTC Dev Bootloader Unlock, T_Mobile ICS RUU leak. My Data improved and more consistent. I use to get anywhere between 2MB-4MB to now 8+MB. WiFi worked like usual. I haven't notice any signal loss(Knock on wood).
I was S-On before with HTC Dev Unlocked Bootloader. Then just re-locked it, flashed T-Mo ICS leak, flashed 4Ext Recovery, Su, then Busybox. All is well. Initial setup went through WiFi. So, I don't know, maybe just got lucky.
Been running the lastest update for a few days now and maybe its me but this last update didn't fix anything. Yes it gave us the option to get rid of 3 dot menu but that is simply a cosmetic thing. My phones seems to run exactly the same as before update, programs still reload when I try to "multitask" back to them, WiFi still loses connection for no apparent reasons and I'm still getting 3G dropouts. Just trying to see if anyone actually saw any improvements.
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klbjr said:
Been running the lastest update for a few days now and maybe its me but this last update didn't fix anything. Yes it gave us the option to get rid of 3 dot menu but that is simply a cosmetic thing. My phones seems to run exactly the same as before update, programs still reload when I try to "multitask" back to them, WiFi still loses connection for no apparent reasons and I'm still getting 3G dropouts. Just trying to see if anyone actually saw any improvements.
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Didnt it also free up some memory and display it differently? Since Im a flashoholic and change roms like women (I wish) I have noticed smoother performance across the boards. When I was on the old base Id get occasional stutters but with this new base every ROM including stock its way smoother than the older base and mine sleeps better than before.
You won't ever fully get rid of the multitasking issues until you get rid of Sense. I have been running CM10 for about 2 weeks now and couldn't be happier. No more Sense, the phone is like a completely different creature. It runs the way it's supposed to now.
klbjr said:
WiFi still loses connection for no apparent reasons and I'm still getting 3G dropouts. Just trying to see if anyone actually saw any improvements.
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WiFi issue I believe may have something to do with what chip is being used, because I had no issues with the EVO 4G WiMax, but have had issues with my old iPhone 3gs and EVO LTE. Connected with IP Address, but no transmitting data. Have to flip WiFi on and off to reset.
Using Airlink 101 AR670W with custom Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (08/07/10) std
On the 3G dropouts, I noticed it drop out about every 30 minutes (not moving, connected to IRC channel)
It fixed hotmail sync, that is the biggest fix I have noticed.
klbjr said:
Been running the lastest update for a few days now and maybe its me but this last update didn't fix anything. Yes it gave us the option to get rid of 3 dot menu but that is simply a cosmetic thing. My phones seems to run exactly the same as before update, programs still reload when I try to "multitask" back to them, WiFi still loses connection for no apparent reasons and I'm still getting 3G dropouts. Just trying to see if anyone actually saw any improvements.
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Did you install the new firmware? The radio was a major fix. Also, Sense 4.1 is about 80mb smaller than 4.0. Freeing up alot of memory. I experience no lag at all on the new base. Not that I hold much stock in quadrant scores but on the old base my scores were around 5000 but the new base I have scores around 6000. My phone flies now with no lag and no overclocking with awesome battery life.
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Didnt it also free up some memory and display it differently? Since Im a flashoholic and change roms like women (I wish) I have noticed smoother performance across the boards. When I was on the old base Id get occasional stutters but with this new base every ROM including stock its way smoother than the older base and mine sleeps better than before.
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On the original firmware I was sure there had to be some kind of memory leak, the phone just kept running low. Instead of trying to figure out if there was, I unlocked and jumped ship so I never confirmed. Really, I would not be surprised if it was something to be patched
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
Astrongtower said:
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
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Unless you want a few undesirable tradeoffs in your hands, either live without KitKat and no update, or take it and remain stock until a proven, trouble free method is available.
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Astrongtower said:
Hi Everyone!
I was waiting to root my Note 3 for the longest time because I did not want to trip KNOX. Well today I got a notice to update my phone to 4.4.2 so I check the internet for the latest gossip on the update. Most people said they did not care for it. Anyhow; I decided to root my phone because I didn’t care anymore and already kind of board of my phone.
So I rooted my phone and I did not trip KNOX.
My question is do I disable this Update Notification to 4.4.2 because it is not really needed via tricks laced in these forums or do I need to update to this to get better security and or features?
If I do update to 4.4.2 will I lose my root?
And if I lose my root; is it impossible to root on 4.4.2 because I believe it is impossible at this time.
Best,
Astrongtower
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Yeah if you take the update you will no longer be rooted, and the only way to root Kitkat will trip Knox. So if Knox is a worry for you I would stay where you are at. Personally for me Kitkat fixed alot of small issues for me, so the update was much worth it, but I could careless about tripping knox personally anyway. I will never be sending my phone to Samsung.
MrWicked1 said:
Yeah if you take the update you will no longer be rooted, and the only way to root Kitkat will trip Knox. So if Knox is a worry for you I would stay where you are at. Personally for me Kitkat fixed alot of small issues for me, so the update was much worth it, but I could careless about tripping knox personally anyway. I will never be sending my phone to Samsung.
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Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
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Astrongtower said:
Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
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Well maybe someone else can chime in on some things they noticed also, but for me I was on Mj4 maybe 3 or 4 days till I updated. For me bluetooth got wayyyyy better on Mj4 when i would get in my vehicle bluetooth media wouldn't stream without skipping every ten to fifteen seconds. Nab modem I get faster speeds and stronger signal(but this will vary on location of the end user)....me I get great battery life(this depends on what rom you are using. I use Sacs Kitkat rom and I get great battery life) I stream audio probably 2 hours out of a day.....Wifi always on...bluetooth always on.....constantly searching etc I would say I'm probably a semi heavy user and at the end of the day I don't think I've ever been under 50% battery left at the end of the night. And that's my phone unplugging say 8am till 11pm or so.
Astrongtower said:
Do you mind listing some of the few things it fixed for you?
I am reading a lot of threads saying that the new battery life is horrible.
I did manage to disable the update notification. Deleted the update file and renamed certain apk's. So if I never upgrade I guess I will be permanently on this os.
Is there a security risk or any other problems that arise from staying on an older os? Like cell reception or better working updates?
Thanks for answering my prior question about the root.
Sent from my SM-N900P using xda app-developers app
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You are using a Custom ROM. That probably explains why you enjoy it so much.
I think it is the stock 4.4.2 Kik Kat that has the horrible batttery life.
So far I am enjoying stock 4.3 with basic root and disable notifocatons on the update.
Do I get the same cell phone reception when I stay on 4.3 or do I need to upgrade to 4.4.2 to get better reception and security?
You know, is it like updating windows and you get security updates and stuff or is it strickly that they just want to limit people from rooting by making it harder.
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Astrongtower said:
You are using a Custom ROM. That probably explains why you enjoy it so much.
I think it is the stock 4.4.2 Kik Kat that has the horrible batttery life.
So far I am enjoying stock 4.3 with basic root and disable notifocatons on the update.
Do I get the same cell phone reception when I stay on 4.3 or do I need to upgrade to 4.4.2 to get better reception and security?
You know, is it like updating windows and you get security updates and stuff or is it strickly that they just want to limit people from rooting by making it harder.
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Of course I'm running a custom ROM, that's the main purpose of rooting for me. I don't ever stay stock, I've never had good battery life on stock with any phone.
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Do you know anything about cell phone reception and security updates vs sticking with older roms or custom roms vs staying with latest factory update ROM OTA?
Just wondering if there is truly a benefit of sticking with pure stock and latest updates OTA even if you decided to deal with the negatives.
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Astrongtower said:
Do you know anything about cell phone reception and security updates vs sticking with older roms or custom roms vs staying with latest factory update ROM OTA?
Just wondering if there is truly a benefit of sticking with pure stock and latest updates OTA even if you decided to deal with the negatives.
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Well...alot of the times custom roms you are going to have all the latest security updates etc just as same as the stock ota. They are built from the base of the ota and then modified. Data speeds usually have a bit of increase because of different tweaks and such. The biggest problem with stock is all the Carrier stuff it adds in....same with knox added in.....all that stuff running in the background adds to battery drain. If I were you I would try flash a custom rom like Sacs.....then try it for a couple days....you can always go back to a stock rom.
Nvm forgot you didn't want to trip knox, so custom rom is pretty much out the question for you.
MrWicked1 said:
Well maybe someone else can chime in on some things they noticed also, but for me I was on Mj4 maybe 3 or 4 days till I updated. For me bluetooth got wayyyyy better on Mj4 when i would get in my vehicle bluetooth media wouldn't stream without skipping every ten to fifteen seconds. Nab modem I get faster speeds and stronger signal(but this will vary on location of the end user)....me I get great battery life(this depends on what rom you are using. I use Sacs Kitkat rom and I get great battery life) I stream audio probably 2 hours out of a day.....Wifi always on...bluetooth always on.....constantly searching etc I would say I'm probably a semi heavy user and at the end of the day I don't think I've ever been under 50% battery left at the end of the night. And that's my phone unplugging say 8am till 11pm or so.
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Can you tell us what modem you are using that gives you faster speeds and stronger signal? I was on both stock and multiple custom ROMs of MJ4 and I got way better signal strength and speeds than I do with NAB, and I'm running Sacs NAB ROM. I haven't flashed any other mod either, it's just Sacs. I was thinking of doing Carbon's AOSP ROM and seeing if I can get stock samsung apps (like camera, TW, just the basics, no bloatware) to work. I just personally like TW and like the features that the camera has (even though I've never, even out of the box, been able to get drama to work). I love the speed of AOSP and the minimal disk footprint, I just prefer some, SOME, of the samsung apps. But my main pain point right now with any NAB (4.4.2) ROM, stock or custom, is my signal got worse. Yes, I work on the Sprint campus so of course my nation wide clear coverage is non-existent (I'm lucky to get two bars of 3G, much less the LTE speed that Verizon or AT&T users ON THE SPRINT CAMPUS get to enjoy, sprint fail, I digress). Anywho, at home when I was on MJ4, I was getting download speeds of 15 Mb and upload speeds of around 6 Mb. Now with NAB I'm getting 5 Mb download speeds and 7.5 Mb upload speeds! Tell me how that works??? Maybe that's why battery life is so good for me, because I'm not connecting to the network so it's not using battery to communicate. I doubt it, but it sounded good at the time. So if you have a modem that you can point me to so I can flash it to get the better signal and speed, I'd be really appreciative.
droidcruzer said:
Can you tell us what modem you are using that gives you faster speeds and stronger signal? I was on both stock and multiple custom ROMs of MJ4 and I got way better signal strength and speeds than I do with NAB, and I'm running Sacs NAB ROM. I haven't flashed any other mod either, it's just Sacs. I was thinking of doing Carbon's AOSP ROM and seeing if I can get stock samsung apps (like camera, TW, just the basics, no bloatware) to work. I just personally like TW and like the features that the camera has (even though I've never, even out of the box, been able to get drama to work). I love the speed of AOSP and the minimal disk footprint, I just prefer some, SOME, of the samsung apps. But my main pain point right now with any NAB (4.4.2) ROM, stock or custom, is my signal got worse. Yes, I work on the Sprint campus so of course my nation wide clear coverage is non-existent (I'm lucky to get two bars of 3G, much less the LTE speed that Verizon or AT&T users ON THE SPRINT CAMPUS get to enjoy, sprint fail, I digress). Anywho, at home when I was on MJ4, I was getting download speeds of 15 Mb and upload speeds of around 6 Mb. Now with NAB I'm getting 5 Mb download speeds and 7.5 Mb upload speeds! Tell me how that works??? Maybe that's why battery life is so good for me, because I'm not connecting to the network so it's not using battery to communicate. I doubt it, but it sounded good at the time. So if you have a modem that you can point me to so I can flash it to get the better signal and speed, I'd be really appreciative.
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Unfortunately I don't have a answer for you I'm on the NAB modem also, one thing I just wanted to throw out there is modems always vary on location. And for some reason we don't have any modem options like previous phones I had the S4...Epic 4g touch....all had different modems with different releases so we were always able to flash different ones to find out works best for each individual. The only thing I would say to try is check make sure you have the latest prl.
MrWicked1 said:
Unfortunately I don't have a answer for you I'm on the NAB modem also, one thing I just wanted to throw out there is modems always vary on location. And for some reason we don't have any modem options like previous phones I had the S4...Epic 4g touch....all had different modems with different releases so we were always able to flash different ones to find out works best for each individual. The only thing I would say to try is check make sure you have the latest prl.
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I do agree that different locations cause different results. My thought though is that my phone would be hitting the same radio towers as before. I don't think there has been an update to the tower radios, meaning LTE is LTE. What leads me to think it's not the towers is when I was on MJ4, I got great signal and then right after I flashed I immediately saw the degradation, I'm pretty confident that no hardware changes happened within that 10 minutes. Updating the PRL would just wipe out my phone's "favorite" towers. So it would force my phone to "re-authenticate" to the same towers that I already hit while on MJ4. That's my thoughts though, I could be totally wrong as I don't fully understand what all goes in to the phone radio communicating with the towers, I only know what hardware changes are or are not happening with the network.
droidcruzer said:
I do agree that different locations cause different results. My thought though is that my phone would be hitting the same radio towers as before. I don't think there has been an update to the tower radios, meaning LTE is LTE. What leads me to think it's not the towers is when I was on MJ4, I got great signal and then right after I flashed I immediately saw the degradation, I'm pretty confident that no hardware changes happened within that 10 minutes. Updating the PRL would just wipe out my phone's "favorite" towers. So it would force my phone to "re-authenticate" to the same towers that I already hit while on MJ4. That's my thoughts though, I could be totally wrong as I don't fully understand what all goes in to the phone radio communicating with the towers, I only know what hardware changes are or are not happening with the network.
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You are probably right, sounds logical I don't personally know either. All I could do is give you what my next option would be I don't really know what else to say. But I definitely agree with you.
MrWicked1 said:
You are probably right, sounds logical I don't personally know either. All I could do is give you what my next option would be I don't really know what else to say. But I definitely agree with you.
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Oh I appreciate any and all help. Even in stating what you did you may have said something that triggered a thought process that I haven't explored yet. So never be afraid to "state the obvious" (for lack of a better term) to me. I'll never take it as a negative. Hell, there will also be times that I haven't tried the obvious just because my brain is searching for a more complex solution when it could be as easy as "did you turn on WiFi?" lol
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Oh I appreciate any and all help. Even in stating what you did you may have said something that triggered a thought process that I haven't explored yet. So never be afraid to "state the obvious" (for lack of a better term) to me. I'll never take it as a negative. Hell, there will also be times that I haven't tried the obvious just because my brain is searching for a more complex solution when it could be as easy as "did you turn on WiFi?" lol
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I've been there done that lol