I've got a Xoom. It's cool but it kind of bogs down sometimes with live wallpapers and other stuff open. Did anyone go from the Xoom to the Prime? Is it worth the money for the performance?
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I've got a Xoom. It's cool but it kind of bogs down sometimes with live wallpapers and other stuff open. Did anyone go from the Xoom to the Prime? Is it worth the money for the performance?
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I didn't go directly from a Xoom to the Prime, but I owned a Xoom. I would definitely say the Prime is worth the cash. The developer support isn't there yet, but it's coming, and this tablet is a beast. (That is if you can find one you can tolerate)
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I didn't go directly from a Xoom to the Prime, but I owned a Xoom. I would definitely say the Prime is worth the cash. The developer support isn't there yet, but it's coming, and this tablet is a beast. (That is if you can find one you can tolerate)
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When you say tolerate, are you one of the people I have been reading about that got a bad tablet? Is Asus fixing this stuff or am I better off waiting for a while to save myself some frustration?
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When you say tolerate, are you one of the people I have been reading about that got a bad tablet? Is Asus fixing this stuff or am I better off waiting for a while to save myself some frustration?
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I don't have any issues with mine. I traded for my initial Prime here in the for sale section with Killster. He'd already opened and verified that it had a serial and was upgraded to ICS. A little bleed in one of the corners, but it is barely noticeable.
My second is coming from the for sale section here as well. I've been guaranteed that it is issue free as well.
I came from the Xoom and the Prime is much better. One of the first things I did was try out the galaxy live wallpaper that I really like but couldn't use on my Xoom because of the lag it caused. The Prime is running with that wallpaper with no lag at all. Totally smooth. I had to return my first Prime because the wifi started loosing signal range after a week all of a sudden. My 2nd prime has been perfect so far. I really like the tablet and the dock makes it even better. Highly recommend the upgrade.
Considering xoom is only dual core then ya it will be better. I have an Acer dual core tablet and it will lag with most live wallpaper and using HDMI to TV. Some games are not as smooth either when panning like shadowgun or mc3.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's faster, but I wanted to get an idea how much faster. After I sell my Xoom on eBay and buy a new Prime, I'll probably be out $150-$200, so I wanted to make sure that there would be at least some pretty significant performance increases.
Is there anything coming in the next few months that will out perform the Prime? I thought I read that there is a new Prime coming out with a plastic back or something for better wifi connectivity. And I'm definitely not interested in the iPad.
I'm coming from the xoom & now i have the prime & the keyboard dock but i will be getting the TF700 when it comes out.The Prime is way better than the Xoom.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's faster, but I wanted to get an idea how much faster. After I sell my Xoom on eBay and buy a new Prime, I'll probably be out $150-$200, so I wanted to make sure that there would be at least some pretty significant performance increases.
Is there anything coming in the next few months that will out perform the Prime? I thought I read that there is a new Prime coming out with a plastic back or something for better wifi connectivity. And I'm definitely not interested in the iPad.
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If you keep it honeycomb then for general use like web surfing you probably wont be able to tell the difference as there is still some lag with stock browser. Where you see the difference is in screen swiping and app drawer. Prime is pretty much lagfree 99% of the time. Also when hooking it up to TV via HDMI the Prime doesn't stutter or lag at all regardless what app or screen your in. And if you upgrade Prime to ICS then this is where you will see a huge difference even in browsing as there is barely any stuttering or lag. It's worth the $150 extra you have to pay to get it IMO.
Now if you want to wait for the next asus 700t then you will need to fork up another $100 so you will be down $250. From what I read the 700t is going to be retail at $599 for the 32gb. Not official yet though. AND you have to play the waiting game till they officially release the product to market. By then probably a few more months another device will come out by another manufacturer. So you can wait for that again.
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Now if you want to wait for the next asus 700t then you will need to fork up another $100 so you will be down $250. From what I read the 700t is going to be retail at $599 for the 32gb. Not official yet though. AND you have to play the waiting game till they officially release the product to market. By then probably a few more months another device will come out by another manufacturer. So you can wait for that again.
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Is that 700t the one with the plastic back I was reading about? What are going to be the major differences between the 700t and the Prime?
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I've got a Xoom. It's cool but it kind of bogs down sometimes with live wallpapers and other stuff open. Did anyone go from the Xoom to the Prime? Is it worth the money for the performance?
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I still have the Xoom for development and have a UK prime with the keyboard dock.
The Prime is running ICS and Xoom 3.2, so not a direct comparison, and I leave the Prime docked all the time, as it's nice to have a full screen when typing and it gives you amazing battery life.
Prime has better screen; tablet is lighter (but heavier docked); faster, especially when in browser. I had the free Bluetooth keyboard and mouse for Xoom, but never really used them, as it was too awkward to carry, but the Prime is like a Mac Air with touch. But be warned, you'll start touching your laptop screen after using the Prime docked for a while
Only thing that is a pain is no use of the ubiquitous micro USB, so no spare leads...
So yes, get it if you can afford it, but get the keyboard dock
sorry to reopen this thread.
Got my prime, but have to return it today because of ligth bleed, and poor gps/wifi. Its in Denmark and the serial starts with C.. so we also have bad primes.
Anyways, the Xoom 32 Wifi Only is almost ½ the price atm, so im really considering it.
How good has the Xoom become with ICS compared to the Prime with ICS?
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sorry to reopen this thread.
Got my prime, but have to return it today because of ligth bleed, and poor gps/wifi. Its in Denmark and the serial starts with C.. so we also have bad primes.
Anyways, the Xoom 32 Wifi Only is almost ½ the price atm, so im really considering it.
How good has the Xoom become with ICS compared to the Prime with ICS?
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No matter if xoom get Android 5.0. It won't never be better than a prime it has old dualcore. If you want to save money just get the xoom then. If you want the latest greatest most powerful tablet out, get the prime. Prime will be more futureproof with the power it has. You get the xoom, you will still end up getting another device soon based on how slow it is. So it's really a waste. Just get a prime again, and that'll last a long time without being outdated or seeming like it lacks power.
im getting what you're saying..
but to be honest. Sometimes holding the prime im getting crazy about that sd card sticking out. I also think its to thin/sharp at the edges.. but I also like its thin..
im just confused.. I just need to know if browser/mail/casual gaming/720p-videos are almost the same experince rigth now.. and yes. maybe I'll upgrade around fall/chrstimas again, but thats ok with the low price.
In the end you will end up spending more if you get the xoom now knowing you'll get rid of it later. I'm sure you will lose a lot money on it if you sell it and all these new tablets with better spec will be out by then. Then you have to fork up cash for the new tablet. And it's possible those new tablets could also have their own issues.
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This is a normal usage test I was doing on both the tablets I got for early xmas gifts
Since I don't need two, I was trying to decide which one to keep.
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Transformer Prime is running on normal mode, full brightness (super ips mode off).
Both tablets are running the same version of GO Launcher EX and the same live wallpaper.
The Prime shipped with non-working GPS, a piece of dust inside the screen right above the docking port. It also has screen bleed that is very noticeable during boot screen and is some-what noticeable during normal use (its right above dock port on the status bar.).
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HP Touchpad is running full brightness.
The Touchpad has very minor screen bleed which is barley noticeable during boot screen and not noticeable at all during use.
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Good show. Looks like $99 was a better deal so far... I'm sure once seven get their hands on the prime, she will sing. But HP isn't doing too bad for non native android running on it...
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think long term potential on the prime v. the touchpad especially when ICS and custom roms come out for the Prime..the Beast will be unleashed (quadcore to its full potential)
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Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
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Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
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That's the thing, the price comparison is rather disingenuous. If you managed to get one for that, it was an amazing deal and it'll be a long time before anything will beat it on value. But you can't go out to a store now and buy one, and that was never the intended price - a deal like that isn't likely to be coming around again any time soon.
It looks pretty competitive with the Prime on those tasks you showed, although there has to be some advantage running CM7 compared to the Prime's almost brand-new Honeycomb firmware; we'll have to see how the Prime develops with ICS and, hopefully, custom ROMs, as it surely has more power under the hood if it can bring that to bear.
Specific issues aside, I think a lot of the disappointment around this tablet is coming from those who already have a decent dual-core tablet (especially if it was bought at an unbelievably good price..!) and were expecting the Prime to be dramatically faster out of the box. It remains to be seen whether quad-core tablets will "age" slower than dual-core ones, as I've experienced on the desktop, but I consider the quad-core an investment in the future more than anything else. Quad-core SoCs will surely start to take over at the high-end in time, and then more optimisations will be made for them when they do. I wouldn't upgrade from this year's dual-cores to Tegra 3, though - those devices are still decent, and if you already have a good tablet it makes more sense to hang on to that at the moment and see what comes around next year.
Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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Totally agree.
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i was not impressed with the primes hardware, software or screen. IMO my HP Touchpad runs better, good roms and screen colors are better.
selling it. dont become negative this is just my conclusion after testing each side by side. the primes price makes it not worth it to me considering the HP Touchpad does everything I would use the prime for but better and it was $300 cheaper.
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Just sell it and go to the Touchpad forums?
Look, I've got issues with my prime too. But we all know this comparison is a little bit sneaky. It's like taking an underpowered econo car that the dealership is trying to get rid of and throwing twin turbos on it - yup, it'll probably beat some high-powered coupes off the show room floor, and most of us might be happy with that. But deep down inside you know it's a pretty stupid comparison.
Just give the prime some time.
lol at this!
come on this is a blatant touchpad fan boy post.
having a CM7 custom ROM vs stock first revision of ROM on a tablet that's been out since last week.
lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
My Touchpad has many issues in both webOS and CM7.. CM7 alpha 3.5 was working fine but now it stutters and force closes a lot.. for the webOS.. the damn thing just keeps disconnecting from the my router at random times and the only way for me to get it working again is to reboot the Touchpad.. I got it for my son to play with but he's gotten frustrated with it and steals my Transformer to play with.
There are some issues and quirks I can live with. My son can do so as well. The Touchpad has issues that gets him too frustrated though and he's usually one to tell me anything can be fixed
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lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
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good points. plus I stopped watching his video after the opera mobile comparison. I counted down how long it took for each to first show something on page and then finish completely loading the page. his touchpad clearly showed it was the loser in that comparison. took almost double the time of prime to fully load that web page on his touchpad. prime was also faster on showing something from page on screen first. same with his Netflix comparison. I loved how he gave his touchpad a few seconds to load and start scrolling vs. the prime which he started scrolling immediately..lol. touchpad failed in that comparison also. even with him giving the touchpad a lil more time to load, prime still showed more on screen first and loaded movies up faster. the touchpad had a bunch of gray squares when first loaded and took longer to fully load all the movies on-screen. as far as his UI scrolling goes, looks to me that prime performed just fine. there where even instances on his touchoad where his taps or scrolls didn't immediately register and looked laggy. touchpad for 99 is a great deal, hands down. but its in no way competition to the prime, on any front.
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Prime touchpad blah blah blah... As far I can use the touchpad for all my task I want from a tablet and smooth. Who care about 5 core. I bet the ipad is best, because of the more than 10 cores lol.
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
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tdrussell said:
Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
TF201 / XDA premium
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
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Nekromantik said:
people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
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Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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all this is too funny. I will admit for only 99 that touchoad is a good device, it looks like. the comparisons to Prime though falls very short for several reasons.
So I've been patiently waiting for income tax money to get a new tablet, been reading a lot between the tf101 and the tf201 and I want a tablet that will have good development, I know the prime is too new and it has his fair share of issues including wifi and GPS, I can care less about GPS but I need wifi so as long as I can get a decent wifi signal so I can seat in my couch or my bed and pickup my wifi I'll be good, now the light bleeding from what the videos I've seen on YouTube wouldn't be a big problem but I don't know if I would be able to deal with dead pixels, now to my question , is there anyone that upgraded to the prime from the transformer and do you feel like it was a mayor upgrade or do you think the original is still a mayor contender? Is a $100 difference so is not that much of a difference in price, but from reading how Asus might have released it prematurely makes me wonder if I should go for the older more stable with more development transformer tf101.
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The Tegra 2 in the original is ancient. Considering how fast the mobile market moves, it is like buying a Pentium 4 for a new desktop. The Tegra 3 is three times as fast between the CPU/GPU- ready for 2012.
With that said, with a Prime you go in expecting to deal with a dead GPS and weak wifi range. It is the trade-off for a modern amount of power.
My only personal issue was slower wifi in my bedroom (the edge of my network), but I love my Prime so much my solution was just to upgrade my router (Cisco e4200, best 2.4GHz consumer router on the market). Now it works great.
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The Tegra 2 in the original is ancient. Considering how fast the mobile market moves, it is like buying a Pentium 4 for a new desktop. The Tegra 3 is three times as fast between the CPU/GPU- ready for 2012.
With that said, with a Prime you go in expecting to deal with a dead GPS and weak wifi range. It is the trade-off for a modern amount of power.
My only personal issue was slower wifi in my bedroom (the edge of my network), but I love my Prime so much my solution was just to upgrade my router (Cisco e4200, best 2.4GHz consumer router on the market). Now it works great.
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Thanks for the reply! I'm probably getting it and if those are my only issues(wifi/GPS) then everything will be great, just hope the development here will grow soon and increase the choices of roms and stuff.
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i understand your concern. i bought mine less than two weeks ago from best buy with my income tax. trust me spend the money. its worth it. maybe even spring for an extended warranty.
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i understand your concern. i bought mine less than two weeks ago from best buy with my income tax. trust me spend the money. its worth it. maybe even spring for an extended warranty.
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the extended warranty sounds like a good idea, thanks.
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I'd say the OG TF101 has much faster WiFi speed as range from the access point increases, the Prime is thinner and lighter, and can be purchased with higher storage capacity.
If WiFi speed is the most important get a OG. If GPS is the most important get neither IMHO but def' not the Prime.
I would personally say getting a Tegra 2 now, would be like getting a Core 2 Duo instead of an Core i[357]. Now the Wayne and Grey based Tegra chips expected later this year....those will make a Tegra 2 look like a Pentium 4 versus an i7, if wikipedia is to be believed.
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I'd say the OG TF101 has much faster WiFi speed as range from the access point increases, the Prime is thinner and lighter, and can be purchased with higher storage capacity.
If WiFi speed is the most important get a OG. If GPS is the most important get neither IMHO but def' not the Prime.
I would personally say getting a Tegra 2 now, would be like getting a Core 2 Duo instead of an Core i[357]. Now the Wayne and Grey based Tegra chips expected later this year....those will make a Tegra 2 look like a Pentium 4 versus an i7, if wikipedia is to be believed.
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I see what your saying, and I don't care about GPS, I just want to make sure I get a somewhat solid tablet, as long as I can get wifi from like 5 feet from my router in my living room I won't complain, and I guess the other issues with light bleed and dead pixels is all luck, and there's rooting and recovery here for it, wish there was some custom honeycomb roms to play with like the revolver or krakd roms for the tf101, hopefully we'll see some development picking up for the prime soon, gonna see about swinging by best buy and testing one out while I wait for my tax money so I can just go buy the one I decide to go for when the money comes.
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While some say GPS is no big deal, look at the amount of whining about it. I want it for alot of reasons. It automatically updates weather to the location, etc.
I purchased mine Less than two weeks ago from Best Buy. I have NO GPS at all. mine is a BCOKAS134452 serial number. My wifi isnt that bad actualy but i feel it is lacking when compared to my rooted nook color. I will try to open mine tonight and make one mod to see if it improves, if not, it goes back tomorrow.
Im not going to exchange it. Im going to return it receive my FULL refund. Then Re-purchase another unit so i have ANOTHER 2 weeks, incase there are issues.
While some may not find this right. I have noticed some people have major issues 3 or 4 weeks after purchase. That is what worries me. Just my .02$
Now you know about some of the issues affecting some users. Now check out the link in my signature. The positive transformer thread. That'll put things into perspective. GPS is a widespread issue although some peoples do work. As far as wifi, this a very limited issue. Just check out the link n the vast number of different users posted in there n you will see a flipside. Which is what I'm on..lol wifi works great on mines
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Now you know about some of the issues affecting some users. Now check out the link in my signature. The positive transformer thread. That'll put things into perspective. GPS is a widespread issue although some peoples do work. As far as wifi, this a very limited issue. Just check out the link n the vast number of different users posted in there n you will see a flipside. Which is what I'm on..lol wifi works great on mines
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Thanks it looks like there's a lot of people very happy with theirs in that thread, definitely looking forward to having one.
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roloracer said:
I see what your saying, and I don't care about GPS, I just want to make sure I get a somewhat solid tablet, as long as I can get wifi from like 5 feet from my router in my living room I won't complain, and I guess the other issues with light bleed and dead pixels is all luck, and there's rooting and recovery here for it, wish there was some custom honeycomb roms to play with like the revolver or krakd roms for the tf101, hopefully we'll see some development picking up for the prime soon, gonna see about swinging by best buy and testing one out while I wait for my tax money so I can just go buy the one I decide to go for when the money comes.
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IMHO light bleed and dead pixels are a quality control and shipping issue. It's also the most common ground for trouble between both tablets.
One thing that alarmed me... while my TF101 fresh out of Microcenter was great: my Prime off eBay had a batch of wtfixels on the far left side and I was afraid that I may have to RMA. By the time I completed the initial setup stuff with my Google Account it went away and the pixels are fine in use.
I do consider the TF101 a better quality tablet but really, unless you do have hair pulling issues with wifi/gps, Prime is fine. I also think the sites more or less calling the Prime like the top or the most powerful tablet of the year are also correct enough. It just doesn't have a deluded cult preaching it's perfection.
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Spidey01 said:
IMHO light bleed and dead pixels are a quality control and shipping issue. It's also the most common ground for trouble between both tablets.
One thing that alarmed me... while my TF101 fresh out of Microcenter was great: my Prime off eBay had a batch of wtfixels on the far left side and I was afraid that I may have to RMA. By the time I completed the initial setup stuff with my Google Account it went away and the pixels are fine in use.
I do consider the TF101 a better quality tablet but really, unless you do have hair pulling issues with wifi/gps, Prime is fine. I also think the sites more or less calling the Prime like the top or the most powerful tablet of the year are also correct enough. It just doesn't have a deluded cult preaching it's perfection.
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Thanks for your input, I had originally thought about the tf101 because of how good is said to be for the price, but I changed my mind thanks to all of you guys and also from browsing thru the positive thread, I'm definitely getting the prime, can't wait for the income tax money to get here, it should be about another week.
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Transformer prime is way better than the original transformer
Go for tf-201
So I'm still waiting for my tax money that should be here by the end of this week, by now I'm disappointed to say no prime for me, I've spend lots of time in the background here just reading negative posts and searching online and reading about rumors of discontinuation of the prime, whether is true or not, I think I'm gonna be patient and wait a bit to see what happens in the next couple of months, Acer is said to be the next one to have a tegra3 tablet, who knows who else throws one out next, and hopefully the tf700 doesn't take too long, oh well as much as is killing me to buy a tablet, I don't want to go backwards to the tf101 to feel I got a solid tablet, I want to feel about a tablet like I feel about my HTC hd2 , that is a solid device. I guess well see.
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jassari said:
Transformer prime is way better than the original transformer
Go for tf-201
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+1....ATP RULES...see decline prices on ipad 2, no match for ATP.
roloracer said:
So I'm still waiting for my tax money that should be here by the end of this week, by now I'm disappointed to say no prime for me, I've spend lots of time in the background here just reading negative posts and searching online and reading about rumors of discontinuation of the prime, whether is true or not, I think I'm gonna be patient and wait a bit to see what happens in the next couple of months, Acer is said to be the next one to have a tegra3 tablet, who knows who else throws one out next, and hopefully the tf700 doesn't take too long, oh well as much as is killing me to buy a tablet, I don't want to go backwards to the tf101 to feel I got a solid tablet, I want to feel about a tablet like I feel about my HTC hd2 , that is a solid device. I guess well see.
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Here's the thing bro....while you're waiting, buy a prime to play with. Most likely you will love it and keep it but guess what if you don't like it you can just return it like so many people have or are at least threatening to. At least you have something to do while you wait. That's my opinion but instead of the buzz kill threads just man up and go buy one see how great it is.
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Here's the thing bro....while you're waiting, buy a prime to play with. Most likely you will love it and keep it but guess what if you don't like it you can just return it like so many people have or are at least threatening to. At least you have something to do while you wait. That's my opinion but instead of the buzz kill threads just man up and go buy one see how great it is.
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Totally agree. You can doo eeet!
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roloracer said:
the extended warranty sounds like a good idea, thanks.
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I read an article stating that less than 5% of extended warranties are ever used. Something to think about.
GPS is NOT a feature of the Transformer Prime. Anyone who brings it up anymore are doing so because it was a feature, but they bring it up because it was then removed. You don't buy a tablet for gps, you buy a gps. The GPS module and antenna are crap in the Prime. You would crap get signal and accuracy even if it did work properly.
For example, you don't buy a PS3 anymore for the ability to install Linux or PS2 backwards compatibility. Why? They removed those features.
Thee major problem of the weak wifi is the fact that one of the antennas is not actually connected properly in some of the old and new Primes. This is a reason to not buy the Prime.
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GPS is NOT a feature of the Transformer Prime. Anyone who brings it up anymore are doing so because it was a feature, but they bring it up because it was then removed. You don't buy a tablet for gps, you buy a gps. The GPS module and antenna are crap in the Prime. You would crap get signal and accuracy even if it did work properly.
For example, you don't buy a PS3 anymore for the ability to install Linux or PS2 backwards compatibility. Why? They removed those features.
Thee major problem of the weak wifi is the fact that one of the antennas is not actually connected properly in some of the old and new Primes. This is a reason to not buy the Prime.
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That's why I said in OP that I could care less about GPS working, but wifi is a big thing for me.
My money came into my account yesterday, not sure but I might pick one up from best buy, play with it and decide what to do before the 14 day return period ends.
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Should I get the original transformer, the transformer prime, or go with one of the new thransformer pads?
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When do you plan on purchasing it?
TF300 and Infinity won't be out for a few month, 3 ~6 month at least.
Padfone should be available in April.
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Should I get the original transformer, the transformer prime, or go with one of the new thransformer pads?
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What's your timing? Everything out now with the exception of the Prime is first generation. The Prime's got issues but if you're patient you can exchange it until you get a satisfactory specimen. It's not the device for you if you want GPS.
So, you can:
1) Buy a TF101 or other first-gen tablet for cheap and wait until later in the year to get a next-gen tablet.
2) Buy the Prime and know you might have to go through a couple to get one you're satisfied with.
3) Wait until other second-gen tablets come out from Asus and others and buy one then.
P.S. - My in-laws live in Lafayette.
And what do you plan to use the tablet for?
At this point it really isn't worthwhile to buy the original Transformer TF101. If you don't like the Prime, the TP300 will be out in 3-6 months that will be significantly better than the original TF101, but sold for the same price. If you really want a highres screen and LTE, wait for the TF Infinity.
I hope nobody rips me for this. But i have had about 5 TF 201's all worked pretty well aside from one had some dead pixels, and others had pretty bad light bleed.
The last one i returned was a C2 serial. Now i will make this clear i loved my Prime & i did miss it all times i had to return it and wait for another. But the random reboots usually 1-2 per day & the Browser lockup just would irk the hell out of me. And my constant problems with Youtube glitching. My wifi worked pretty well though. The icing on the cake was upcoming TF-700. Now who knows i might get another Prime i do check daily at my local Staples to see if they got any online.
I ended up going with a Galaxy Tab 10.1 "for now". They are on sale for $399 currently. Yes they are coming out with a 10.2 version 2 but its basically the same damn thing. Now the Galaxy Tab might not be zippy as the Prime "out of the box" but the Galaxy tab has been out for a bit and has a huge development section over here at XDA for custom Roms. So you can basically overclock it as soon as you get it and add custom roms from day one. Big for me.
One thing i noticed, now this is personal preference. I also just got a Galaxy Note Phone the other day. And i noticed while still using my Prime when i had it the colors seems washed out & the contrast did not seem as good as my Note phone. Basically is the same case with the Galaxy Tab. I prefer punchy colors others may not. So take that in consideration if you prefer natural tones. Blue & green tones are way vibrant compared to the Primes. Again personal taste here.
Tegra 3 is a great step for gaming. But i have a PS vita, a Xbox on a big screen so i don't game much on my tablet other than try ones out. I utilize my tablet to hack/root/customize & cool things like overclock, browse web, check email, watch youtube & browse XDA. And use it as a bathroom buddy .
So if you are willing to wait the obvious choice would be the New Prime Infinity. However id take a strong look at the Galaxy Tab 10.1 for the price and the great development on it thus far.
I had the dock as well for the Prime which was cool, but i basically bought it to utilize a usb wireless mouse and plug my xbox controller into lol. As well as it was great for propping the tablet up rather than holding it.
The TF-101 would prob be a good choice too. But i am a Samsung fan, especially their phones. And just prefer their punchy colors.
If I get the prime and unlock the bootloader will I be able to take it back?
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If I get the prime and unlock the bootloader will I be able to take it back?
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I don't see why not. I have exchanged a few of mine and they just take it out of the box for a sec. Maybe boot it up and exchange it no prob. As long as you are in your return period.
I just can't decide whether I should get the galaxy tab or the prime. I really like the prime but I don't wanna deal with the wifi issues
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Trust me the Prime is awesome if you are willing to deal with or wait until the kinks are worked out. And for the most part are around a stable wifi.
The Galaxy Tab is also a good choice for $399 and as i stated earlier i do like the more punchy colors. However the Prime will run ICS out of the box. But there are a ton of ROms for the Galaxy if you are willing to root.
How are the ICS roms for the galaxy?
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Trust me the Prime is awesome if you are willing to deal with or wait until the kinks are worked out. And for the most part are around a stable wifi.
The Galaxy Tab is also a good choice for $399 and as i stated earlier i do like the more punchy colors. However the Prime will run ICS out of the box. But there are a ton of ROms for the Galaxy if you are willing to root.
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There will soon be a ton for the prime too, development really just started. IMO it would be dumb to buy the galaxy tab at this point as its a first generation tablet and the second generation is already here. Seems like 400 down the drain you could use towards the prime or upcoming current generation tablets.
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There will soon be a ton for the prime too, development really just started. IMO it would be dumb to buy the galaxy tab at this point as its a first generation tablet and the second generation is already here. Seems like 400 down the drain you could use towards the prime or upcoming current generation tablets.
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I totally agree that there will tons of roms for the prime. The only reason i can recommend the Galaxy tab over the "original" Transformer at this time is the fact that the newly announced Galaxy Tab is basically the same exact thing & spec & design wise.
Now i still would recommend the Transformer Prime if you are willing to be patient as well as get a good one. I find that the full aluminum back looks better than the new TF700. In my house my wifi has worked fine, pretty much on par with my Galaxy Note. And i always have my Galaxy Note with me to tether if i need a good wifi signal. But basically my Galaxy Note is a phone/tablet already lol.
So is the Prime worth the extra $100 now? I still think so, i was just throwing out other options. Keep in mind the Prime has the micro HDMI out built in & a micro SD card slot. While the Galaxy tab you would need adapters. So thats more $$$ there.
Thanks for all the help. I'm just gonna go to bestbuy and get which ever one they have in stock.
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Just for reference i returned my Galaxy Tab. I brought it home and it sat on my desk last night and never opened it. So i picked up my 6th or 7th Prime. Cant remember at this point lol. I still love the damn thing. I am going without a keyboard dock at the moment though. To see how she does before i buy another.
I am just too impressed by the Prime. I just wanted to be honest. The Galaxy Tab is great. But if you are a tech junkie and want the latest and greatest. The Prime is the way to go if you can find one. Unless you were set on saving $100 bucks then the Galaxy would be a good choice.
Here is my question, I'm looking for a really good tablet with great battery life and I wanted to get the Vibrant community's opinion as to which is the best.
Please refrain from posting about apple products I simply do not like apple as a company and refuse to give them my business.
I would appreciate it if in addition to your selection you could tell me your reason for feeling why its the best.
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I picked up an Asus Transformer (OG-not the Prime) a few weeks ago at Best Buy for $399 (Bob Shute almost convinced me to get the Nook Color though). It was the 32gb on sale for the same price as the 16gb (so why not) + it has external, so i have 64+/-gb of storage. I had lurked in a bunch of forums checking out support, ROMs, rootable, "official" ICS and general attitude of the forum members.
When I got it out of the box it was running 3.1 and I had known that it had an OTA update waiting. Within 30mins of getting it, I had upgraded, Rooted and was on my way to being a tablet owner. It was real easy to do too. The battery life on 3.2.1 was really good. Granted I am not using it all day long but I was getting about 2-4 days out of it. Kids would play games, watch Netflix, I would surf and my wife would do her coupon spreadsheets (yes she is one of those ladies and we do have a stockpile).
Fast forward to the ICS update. We got the OTA update and for some reason there is an issue with the kernel and people are getting random reboots. I am not sure if it is just me knowing what I am doing from so many tweaks with this phone and past ones or I just got a good tablet, but I messed with the governors and it has been 3 weeks since upgrade and I haven't had one yet. Knowledge is Power. Felt you should be aware of that though. Battery life on ICS is outstanding. I get 4-6 days out of it easily. Might cut it down now that baseball spring training has started and I can stream live video to it.
Conclusion- A few things. The Transformer (tf101) is just as good as the Prime (tf201) and actually I think it is better b/c the Prime has wifi, GPS and other hardward issues, but its bootloader can be unlocked whereas the tf101 is still lock for now. Another things is that you have to remember that these are seconday devices to most people and some of the redundant questions you see are rediculous.
My suggestion is to lurk in the Acer, Transformer, Galaxy, Xoom forums and see what is going on in them. Plus there are a bunch of smaller tablets coming out soon with Tegra3, Quad-core, low price,...
HTH and let me know if you have any Q's and sorry for the long post.
what do you want to do with this tablet?
I know you said not to mention any apple products but...
seriously dude even the iPad 2 is better than any android tablet out right now. iPad (third generation) just killed everything else. I know you don't like apple as a company but the iPad is pretty much the tablet market, the only tablet one should be getting. You're going to regret it if you don't get an iPad...
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what do you want to do with this tablet?
I know you said not to mention any apple products but...
seriously dude even the iPad 2 is better than any android tablet out right now. iPad (third generation) just killed everything else. I know you don't like apple as a company but the iPad is pretty much the tablet market, the only tablet one should be getting. You're going to regret it if you don't get an iPad...
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I didn't get an ipad and I don't regret it one bit
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Ill be using the tablet for school mostly. Ill have about 100 lbs of books that id rather not have to carry with me everywhere. Ill also be using the tablet for light gaming just to keep me entertained from time to time as well as serving to replace my laptop for day to day tasks. Granted i know not everything can be accomplished by a tablet so ill still have my laptop at my apartment but need something light and portable but capable so i was thinking tablet.
As far as no apple products, they seem to hate me, i touch one and they seem to break they dont function properly and im honestly not convinced that they are the best product on the market. Their Marketing department tries to convince you of that but i hardly agree. (i wont get into it i don't want this to turn into a flame thread) regardless thank you for your input.
Ive been looking alot at the Transformer and TF Prime as well as the 10.1 inch samsung variants, but since i have ICS running on my Vibrant id very much like to have it running on my Tablet, i intend to run stock for a while until stable versions of either CM9 or AOKP are released for the device since i will be using it in a more productive than leisurely role.
@ woodrube thank you for the length of your post i appreciate the time you put into your response
@junglerumble thank you for your input, tho i whole heartily disagree with you (to each their own)
does anybody have an idea of the android tablets that are coming out in the first half of this year and when? I want to get a tablet but not at the moment. I'm waiting till more tablets come out to make up my mind but it would be nice to have some foresight.
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asus transformer is what i hear and read.
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what do you want to do with this tablet?
I know you said not to mention any apple products but...
seriously dude even the iPad 2 is better than any android tablet out right now. iPad (third generation) just killed everything else. I know you don't like apple as a company but the iPad is pretty much the tablet market, the only tablet one should be getting. You're going to regret it if you don't get an iPad...
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I use an iPad 2 exclusively for classwork and I half regret the purchase, even after the jailbreaking and app searching. It's a good tablet, but it's not a deity.
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Transformers have the keyboard dock too with independent battery in case you want that laptop thing going on. I love my TF and am happy I bought it. There are a couple of us who have the TFs like Alex9090, Mveksler, Gorealmighty and Manus I think.
I would wait til the Asus 3 comes out tegra 3 for the price of the og transformer
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I used several different Android Honeycomb tablets, but gave up on all of them because I felt the software weren't advance enough for my purposes, so I got a Windows tablet instead. Then sold that and got the Galaxy Note (international version) which I think is the best consumer portable device made so far, since it acts as a phone and tablet, has the same resolution as the tablets (1280x800, and is even (much) faster than Tegra2, yet pocketable, has Wacom pen, can make phone calls and ultra fast GPS locking, awesome camera), although I didn't keep it since it doesn't support T-Mobile 3G.
Out of the Honeycomb tablets, I liked the Acer A500 and Toshiba Thrive most since it has fullsize USB connector, which works with flash drive and gamepads. I think the Asus Slider should be better since it has fullsize USB and keyboard as well, just a bit heavier. I do not feel tablets with Tegra2 is fast enough to handle 'higher' bitrates HD contents and MKV videos, although other purposes are fine, regular HD video should be okay. I also feel all Android tablets are overpriced for their present software features, unless at refurb price, if it were Ubuntu or some full fledged linux distro I'd be more interested. Which is why I think Windows 8 tablets will have some success, even though I'm not interested in Windows 8.
+1 OG Transformer. Great device
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I want to thank everyone for their responses, after spending some time playing with the devices in store and reading through the developer forums I have decided on getting the TF prime, just seemed to blow everything else outta the water once all the tablets had 100+ apps installed and running live wall papers. Luckily i was able to find one at a local retailer since everywhere else was sold out.
I was so close (money in hand) to buying the Galaxy 10.1 but after reading this I decided on the TF201.
Darn near ever place Ive looked is out of stock though.
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It didn't take much for me to switch. After this phone and its total lack of support, I try to stay clear of anything that has Samsung on it.
Thus far I have to say that my impressions of the tfp are extremely favorable so far I have experienced none of the recorded issues with the tablet save maybe the GPS but I have yet to test it outdoors the stock ics keyboard is far better than I expected on the tablet
I will update more as I have more time and experience with the tablet if so desired
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I saw that due to the GPS issues they no longer advertise the tab has a GPS. Imagine if Samsung was forced to do the same for our phone's crummy GPS.
Id expect similar GPS to our phones. I ended up buying a real nice Tom-Tom GPS for my car so the phone GPS is bout always off now.
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I saw that due to the GPS issues they no longer advertise the tab has a GPS. Imagine if Samsung was forced to do the same for our phone's crummy GPS.
Id expect similar GPS to our phones. I ended up buying a real nice Tom-Tom GPS for my car so the phone GPS is bout always off now.
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Well I tested gps on the unit over asbestos buy, the one they had on display, gps worked down to 40m accuracy.. I was surprised but yes gps is no longer one of the advertised features most likely i will end up using my by gps receiver for better accuracy like I have been
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If and when it comes time to Root your device (I did it within 30mins of having it) You can use ViperMod and install Supercurio's OTA Rootkeeper and any updates you get, just open the Rootkeeper up and restore root. Handy little app if I do say so.
I recently purchased a Transformer Prime with the keyboard doc and I have no regrets. It's awsome. I've not experienced any of the GPS/hardware issues mentioned either.
I currently use the prime daily and i got my GF the nexus 7 for couch browsing and just to have the latest OTA's all the time. However after using it, I really am liking the portability of the size and the performance is so much fast than the prime. Just not sure if i would miss the larger screen.
Yeah, i plan on selling my Prime soon and getting a Nexus 7!
I switched--but I was having horrible problems with my prime. One nexus 7 for me. One nexus 7 for my wife.
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I switched--but I was having horrible problems with my prime. One nexus 7 for me. One nexus 7 for my wife.
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missing the 10inch screen?
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missing the 10inch screen?
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Its coming in September. Not sure of cost yet, but when it comes, my Prime is SO getting sold.
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How are Yall selling your primes/keyboards? Ebay, amazon, craigslist, etc.?
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How are Yall selling your primes/keyboards? Ebay, amazon, craigslist, etc.?
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Due to the reputation of the prime and the release of infinity, the price of the prime is below what I'd like to get out of my prime.
I was able to easily get 500 out of my first transformer on ebay, this time around not so much luck.
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How are Yall selling your primes/keyboards? Ebay, amazon, craigslist, etc.?
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Probably going to stick mine on eBay and Gumtree!
Mine is going on Craigslist & I haven't seen enough reviews on the 7 to get it. I'm looking at getting a ipad or a laptop.
already purchased one through Google play. UPS showed original scan at Ky hub center @ 9:20a.m. now ups shows my device leaving KY, departure scan, @ 2:09p.m.. so its on "In Transit" status now. will arrive for delivery to me tomorrow. can't wait!
oh and im keeping both. No need to get rid of my prime since i have no issues with it. it works great
I'd love to have both, but I'm keeping my prime. The keyboard dock is far too useful to give up. Besides, I have faith in the devs
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I'd love to have both, but I'm keeping my prime. The keyboard dock is far too useful to give up. Besides, I have faith in the devs
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yea both sounds like a good idea.
gonna get the N7, use it for a week or two and wait to hear about JB on prime.. then sell one of the 2.
Anyone want to buy a spare Prime?
Traded in my 3G Vita on one Saturday. So far its been an absolute pleasure to own, exactly what I was expecting.
My Prime, not so much.
Sorry guys, but I see no need on having a tablet without a dock station like the asus transformer line. I mean, a tablet without USB OTG,SD and microSD card reader and mouse pad is just an expensive toy to sit in front of the TV and surf on internet while watching at it. I use my prime both at work and while at school instead of bringing a heavy, big, overheating laptop, not to mention the battery life in the prime is way better. I know , the N7 came with a very good price, and I will buy one as soon as they reach Swedish market, but as I said before, for me it will work just as a toy to surf in front of the TV, no way that it would replace the Prime.
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yea both sounds like a good idea.
gonna get the N7, use it for a week or two and wait to hear about JB on prime.. then sell one of the 2.
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Pretty much the same boat I am in. Buying from staples and they have a 14 day return policy (I think). Not sure if selling my prime would be worth it at this point.
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I am on it right now and I have to say it just outperforms the prime. Idk if its jb or what but everything is just after on the n7
The N7 doesnt seem to have these strange lags caused by the internal memory speed.
Also it scores way better in the benchmarks...
good thing: it uses the same memory as the prime! on paper the same speed ...
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lets hope for jellybean and kernel upgrade anywhere soon!
I think what it boils down to is, get what you want period. If you love the prime and it works for you then keep it, want the infinity or 7 then get it.
Nothing is worse than having a tablet and not want it, or you are dissatisfied with it, for whatever reason. Flip side, nothing is better than having a device and really like it.
The prime really doesn't do it for me, I thought it would (it's still is the best looking tablet out bar none) but it just doesn't. In the end I treat it like a business decision, I thought it would be good and it tuned out for me different. Now I'm trying to sell it and move on.
I started using windows 8 and I knew my next tablet device would have it 8 on it. I like everything about it. I think it's the better OS for me and my situation. I could go on an on bashing Asus, but why? I've found what works best for me. But that's just me...
I owned a Galaxy Tab 7" and a PlayBook prior to getting the Prime, and I'm considering the Nexus, but I found the 7" tabs to be too small for web browsing. Personally, I think the Galaxy Tab 8.9" is the best size.
Plus, it's another ASUS product. (My Prime's currently RMA'd to fix the rear camera issue).
I wish HTC had built the Nexus 7. The Nexus One was the best.