[Q] Native Tether vs. 3rd Party Tether Apps - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been searching for threads that directly compared them and got some answers, but I still have one question...
I got a Samsung phone with a T-Mobile tethering app built in, as well as the "Wi-Fi Tethering" app, which allowed me to tether for free. However, when my TABLET updated to ICS, it doesn't support Ad-Hoc anymore. I read that if I freeze Tethering Manager on my PHONE and use the native tethering app, it will allow me to broadcast an infrastructure tethering hot spot for free.
My rambling aside; Using too much tethering w/o paying is risky, but is there a real difference on T-Mobiles side if I use the native app vs the 3rd party app?

it is the same procedure equal on custom and stock roms so no.
Yes you can use it.

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what am i missing with mobile hotspot?

my tb is rooted and running bamf 186. my native "mobile hotspot" app still works as an active hotspot . i guess i was under the impression that this native app should no longer work and i would have to use an alternative wireless tether app.
am i missing something? i purchased my tb about 2 mos ago.
thanks
mark
Free tethering will continue to work on rooted Thunderbolts, as it does on nearly all other rooted android phones. It's only non rooted phones that have to pay now.
I updated to the new stock rooted rom and the new radio an now my Hotspot says that I have to call in to get the Hotspot. I can still use wireless tether program but that only does adhoc connections and not Infrastructure. Is there any way to get rid of tetherguard.apk and go back to the old hotspot so it is still free? or is the only way to go back to the old radio?
where is the link for apk of wireless tether? anybody?
no apk
It's hosted on a Google android development page.. If you google it you can find all the developers apks pretty easily.
Don't forget to click "Enable HTC routing fix" in the settings or you'll have some issues getting it to work.

[Q] Hotspot / Shift Rom

Coming from Mono to Shift ROM.
I used wireless tether on Mono without an issue.
HotSpot icon is on Shift, I click on it and a window pops up telling me to call a number for this feature. I am paying for it with Verizon and have been for some time now.
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So, what do I need to do inorder for wireless tether to work again?
Boggus said:
Coming from Mono to Shift ROM.
I used wireless tether on Mono without an issue.
HotSpot icon is on Shift, I click on it and a window pops up telling me to call a number for this feature. I am paying for it with Verizon and have been for some time now.
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So, what do I need to do inorder for wireless tether to work again?
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I can't say for sure, but I've heard of some ROMs where the native wireless tethering app doesn't work. Usually a third part app will, such as Wireless Tether.
1.4 has a fully working VZW HotSpot. Once you except you are good. As long as you pay for it. :
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Strange indeed. I have paid for it since my Samsung Fascinate. Switched to TBolt and it worked fine. I have never dealt with 3rd party Tethering until I rooted and went to mono rom. Then I used the one that was built into that rom and not the VZ hotspot app. Now switching to Shift the 3rd party is not there and the VZ is. When I attempt to turn on the VZ app it gives me a window with 2 numbers to call to activate. I now have installed a 3rd party app and it works.
I just wonder if VZ somehow flagged my account since I used a 3rd party (free) version when I went to Mono.
The only tethering I have ever used is third party and I have not had any trouble.
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So just curious, but Wireless Tether is just the 3rd party version/replacement for Verizon's Mobile Hotspot? Same purpose?

Removing Native Tether Restrictions?

I'm not exactly sure where to post this and I certainly couldn't find much about it with google. I'm looking for a way to disable the tether restriction placed on roms based on carrier stock. I know there are other apps for this, but I would much rather prefer having a working tether built in rather than relying on third party apps -- not to mention, I haven't found any apps that support both usb tethering and wifi tethering on a rooted device without requiring third party software installed on the pc. To be more specific, the device I'm looking to accomplish this on is a T-Mobile Galaxy S3. Does anyone have any idea where I should begin looking to make this kind of modification? I know for a fact that roms built from source rather than carrier stock do not have the tethering restriction enabled. If anyone is unsure what the restriction I'm referring to is, it's the ability to tether without having a tethering option added to your rate plan.
Any leads would be appreciated.

Nebtop 1.3 & Atrix 4.5.141 (Tethering Question)

Hello folks,
I have a rooted Atrix 4G 2.3.6/4.5.141. Recently installed Nebtop 1.3 to get Webtop to work on my LCD TV. I got everything to work but freaked out when a message regarding tethering popped up (I do not have the dock nor tethering plan). My Wifi was turned off and I obviously could not connect to the internet since I do not have a tethering plan.
A couple of questions. I read something a while back about ATT forcing a tethering plan if they see that you placed the phone into the dock without subscribing to a tethering plan. Is this true? Is there any way they will force some kind of a tethering fee now that I hooked it up to the LCD TV?
-If I turn on Wifi, will I be able to browse the internet? If not, what will I need to enable this?
-Assuming I don't have Wifi, I will need a hack to enable tethering. Which method do you folks recommend?
Many thanks for all of the help and I apologize for any stupidity in advance .
Use WiFi and you won't need to worry about tethering. If you tether without a tethering plan there is always a chance they will catch you.
How will they find out that I'm tethering though if it was disabled right off the bat? Are you referring to hacking/excess data usage?
Is it true that if I use the built in Android browser and not Firefox, i will still be able to access the internet (without relying on Wifi)?
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WiFI Tether/hotspot Options

Hello everyone,
I am trying to gain some general knowledge about the current state of tethering on android in general but more specifically for my situation on a unlimited data plan on Verizon on a Samsung S4 i545. I'm currently at Android 5.0.1 on OF1.
From what I have gathered so far there are two basic ways of doing wifi tethering these days.
1) Mod the built in tethering application so not to check with Verizon for the tethering plan.
2) Install an app that uses it's own or iptables type of network routing to do the tethering.
3) tethering apps that don't need root (ie FoxFi)
First off if there are more options that I'm not aware of please let me know.
I would like to "fly under the radar" as much as possible being that I'm on a grandfathered unlimited plan. This leads me to believe that using a app that does routing would be a better option. I have tried many of the free apps in the app store and most do not work with my setup.
I believe the following apps are apps that actually do routing.
"WiFi Tether Router", "WiFi Tethering by OpenGarden", "Barnacle WiFi Tether", "WiFi tether" (also known as Wireless tether for Root Users or android-wifi-tether)
I have root but I can't get any of these to work. (with the exception of WiFi Tether Router as I haven't actually tried that app because it's a pay app)
Other options are installing mods that modify the built in app tether app like
I545_OF1_tetherAddOn.zip
And last the option of running an app like FoxFi that doesn't require root. and looks like it is using some kind of VPN to get around tethering? not sure how this works or where it stands but I think it's also using the built in tethering app and just somehow bypassing the Verizon server that checks for a tethering subscription.
if anyone could help shed some light on how these apps are working I could then decide at what level of exposure I was comfortable with. As of right now and my limited knowledge of how they work I think an app like WiFi Tether Router (if it works would be worth the purchase)
Thanks,
Chris
cdeleoxda said:
Hello everyone,
I am trying to gain some general knowledge about the current state of tethering on android in general but more specifically for my situation on a unlimited data plan on Verizon on a Samsung S4 i545. I'm currently at Android 5.0.1 on OF1.
From what I have gathered so far there are two basic ways of doing wifi tethering these days.
1) Mod the built in tethering application so not to check with Verizon for the tethering plan.
2) Install an app that uses it's own or iptables type of network routing to do the tethering.
3) tethering apps that don't need root (ie FoxFi)
First off if there are more options that I'm not aware of please let me know.
I would like to "fly under the radar" as much as possible being that I'm on a grandfathered unlimited plan. This leads me to believe that using a app that does routing would be a better option. I have tried many of the free apps in the app store and most do not work with my setup.
I believe the following apps are apps that actually do routing.
"WiFi Tether Router", "WiFi Tethering by OpenGarden", "Barnacle WiFi Tether", "WiFi tether" (also known as Wireless tether for Root Users or android-wifi-tether)
I have root but I can't get any of these to work. (with the exception of WiFi Tether Router as I haven't actually tried that app because it's a pay app)
Other options are installing mods that modify the built in app tether app like
I545_OF1_tetherAddOn.zip
And last the option of running an app like FoxFi that doesn't require root. and looks like it is using some kind of VPN to get around tethering? not sure how this works or where it stands but I think it's also using the built in tethering app and just somehow bypassing the Verizon server that checks for a tethering subscription.
if anyone could help shed some light on how these apps are working I could then decide at what level of exposure I was comfortable with. As of right now and my limited knowledge of how they work I think an app like WiFi Tether Router (if it works would be worth the purchase)
Thanks,
Chris
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You should look for the WiFi Tether Router paid app apk online, i have the same problem with WiFi Tether, and also flashed the I545_OF1_tetherAddOn.zip and still no result, so I'm going to look for the app's downloadable apk link and share it with you, I'm also going to try it ☺☺
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cdeleoxda said:
Hello everyone,
I am trying to gain some general knowledge about the current state of tethering on android in general but more specifically for my situation on a unlimited data plan on Verizon on a Samsung S4 i545. I'm currently at Android 5.0.1 on OF1.
From what I have gathered so far there are two basic ways of doing wifi tethering these days.
1) Mod the built in tethering application so not to check with Verizon for the tethering plan.
2) Install an app that uses it's own or iptables type of network routing to do the tethering.
3) tethering apps that don't need root (ie FoxFi)
First off if there are more options that I'm not aware of please let me know.
I would like to "fly under the radar" as much as possible being that I'm on a grandfathered unlimited plan. This leads me to believe that using a app that does routing would be a better option. I have tried many of the free apps in the app store and most do not work with my setup.
I believe the following apps are apps that actually do routing.
"WiFi Tether Router", "WiFi Tethering by OpenGarden", "Barnacle WiFi Tether", "WiFi tether" (also known as Wireless tether for Root Users or android-wifi-tether)
I have root but I can't get any of these to work. (with the exception of WiFi Tether Router as I haven't actually tried that app because it's a pay app)
Other options are installing mods that modify the built in app tether app like
I545_OF1_tetherAddOn.zip
And last the option of running an app like FoxFi that doesn't require root. and looks like it is using some kind of VPN to get around tethering? not sure how this works or where it stands but I think it's also using the built in tethering app and just somehow bypassing the Verizon server that checks for a tethering subscription.
if anyone could help shed some light on how these apps are working I could then decide at what level of exposure I was comfortable with. As of right now and my limited knowledge of how they work I think an app like WiFi Tether Router (if it works would be worth the purchase)
Thanks,
Chris
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I'm wondering what can help us with WiFi Tethering too, so I tried a lot of apps and methods and nothing worked, the only tethering I was able to get was USB with FoxFi, tbh works really nice, even better than my home internet, I'm foreign so I cannot enjoy 4g on this phone but still got a pretty much decent speed, it's not WiFi tether but it doesn't bother me because works really nice. Still will try to find any other alternative to get WiFi tether but for now FoxFi USB tether seems to be our best option
thanks for getting back to me on this.
Again I'm not just looking for a solution to my specific situation but rather trying to gather information on how the different methods and approaches work. I feel as if I only have a slight understanding of how each approach works. I'm pretty curious to what all the VPN stuff is about that some of the non root apps are doing.
WiFi tether router by Fabio works also for USB tethering KLINK works with option "mimic mobile device" set to on both paid for apps.
A little feedback about Foxfi:
I didn't wanted to connect my galaxy to the pc so I decided to try WiFi tethering and it worked! just follow the instructions it gives you and it will work, if you wanna change WiFi name or password do it from Foxfi, default tether manager just turn off tether and doesn't change anything
Thanks mahn
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Pls any solution??...when trying to switch on mobile hotspot on samsung galaxy s4 Verizon sch-i545 on lolipop. it keeps saying either mdn or iccid missing.....pls need urgent solution
When trying to switch on hotspot on Verizon galaxy s4 on lollipop OF1 kernel i get this error message saying either mdn or iccid not valid
Or getting a rom with it built in

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