Hey all,
I've had my SGS2 since May 2011 and using VillainROM as it has developed. The weird thing over the last few months has been the phone gradually slows down, I don't have a massive amount of apps installed and nothing running that should cause a slow down. It slows to the point where response to screen selections takes a second or two and even the haptic feedback slows down now and again (so instead of a quick buzz it causes a long buzz and then the next one will be OK).
The one solution I've found is to Titanium backup all of the apps and data then wipe and re-install the ROM, restore all apps and data then it's fine. The fact that I'm backing up/restoring the apps and it still being OK is another reason I don't believe it's app related, the only thing that will have changed is the full wipe and re-install of the ROM. This then lasts a couple of months in a good state before slowly getting worse again.
While this is a sure-fire solution it's also a time consuming and annoying one. So has anyone got any ideas as to what I could do to resolve this issue without a wipe?
Thanks
Russ
Try diffrent kernels and diffrent villainrom builds
Sent from my sgs2 running cm9 using xda app
What you could try is a wipe of dalvik and cache via recovery every so often see if that helps .
jje
I've been using VR3.0 and Ninphetamine 2.0.5 but I would expect these kinds of issues to be instantly apparent if it were related to either of those, not something that gradually gets worse?
JJEgan said:
What you could try is a wipe of dalvik and cache via recovery every so often see if that helps .
jje
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And that wouldn't wipe any data? Truth be told I've never really known what they do but I wipe them before a re-install. I'll give it a go!
They just rebuild when you reboot .
Just tested it means reboot takes longer first run is all .
jje
Cheers, I'll give it a go and see how I get on
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A little background--I'm not a newbie and have been running custom roms on my Fascinate for many months (and my Droid before it), but I'm also not an expert or programmer. OK, with that out of the way, here's the issue. When JT came out with the first version of CM7 I switched to it from the Froyo CommRom. Since CM7 had a lot of issues in the early days, I carefully followed this sticky and returned to CommRom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124391
I've since had a pattern of getting severe force closes, to the point that the phone become non-functional, after several days of everything working fine. This has happened with CommRom, Evil Fascinate, CM7, and currently JT's Vanilla Gingerbread. I've gone back to stock many times, have cleared everything (including data), have run the ext4 formatter, have tried different radios (currently on EC09), and have tried different roms. In each case everything runs wonderfully for 2-4 days, then FC's begin. I use Titanium Backup Pro to restore things, but have been doing so without restoring data, since some say that causes FC's. I've also unchecked the options to have Google back up data, since some say that causes FC's.
I'm out of ideas and am getting tired of clearing data and starting over every few days. I suppose I could restore things to stock and see how that runs, but that might be too painful to survive. Anyone have any other ideas?
You mentioned that you restore apps with Titanium. Do you restore only downloaded apps, or system apps as well? Different ROMS often have different versions of system apps, which can cause problems when restoring.
I'd like to see this topic explored a bit deeper. My girlfriend and I both have Fascinates as well, and each of us sees significant force-close rates...not to the point where the phone doesn't function...but 5-10 per day.
Is this simply a chronic fascinate problem on the newer ROMS (we've used MIUI and Vanilla GB).
Have you tried going 4 days without any restore of any kind?
Try a fresh install from atlas/pit/ed05 and go with that for 4 days... No restores.
Probably not the answer you want, but it sounds like your backups contain corrupt data.
KaceMN said:
I'd like to see this topic explored a bit deeper. My girlfriend and I both have Fascinates as well, and each of us sees significant force-close rates...not to the point where the phone doesn't function...but 5-10 per day.
Is this simply a chronic fascinate problem on the newer ROMS (we've used MIUI and Vanilla GB).
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no its not a fascinate problem, its more likely user error... you must be installing apps & data with tibu. when jumping roms, only restore app's only. Also another thing to try is, boot into cwm, wipe cache, dalvik, and fix permissions.
Fwiw I very seldom ever get a FC...
I've been following the same pattern of behavior with the switching of ROMs and backing up with Titanium by restoring data and apps. My Fascinate picked up a number of bad habits along the way: phantom back button and keyboard button pressing, screen waking back up after I shut it off, and some force closes but nothing like some are reporting here.
I recently switched to PWGB which wipes all data. I used Titanium to restore contacts and text messages only and re-downloaded all the apps from the market.
Since the wipe everything has been smooth and error free.
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I recently switched to PWGB which wipes all data. I used Titanium to restore contacts and text messages only and re-downloaded all the apps from the market.
Since the wipe everything has been smooth and error free.
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you can use titanium to restore apps, long as you install app only.... do not install app+ data, thats where you run into problems.
I am experiencing this same issue. I first upgraded to CM7 nightlies back around August and that seemed to be the source of the issue. Each time it occurred, I would wipe data and it would disappear for several days or weeks. I then switched to jt's Vanilla GB, and had the same issue. Now I am on CM7.1 and am continuing to have the same problem. Wiping data seems to fix the problem, but it consistently returns after several days.
I did have some success with disabling sync and clearing data for the Contacts Storage and Google Framework applications, which seemed to stop the force-closing temporarily, but they did ultimately return. This only seemed to work for me once.
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I am experiencing this same issue. I first upgraded to CM7 nightlies back around August and that seemed to be the source of the issue. Each time it occurred, I would wipe data and it would disappear for several days or weeks. I then switched to jt's Vanilla GB, and had the same issue. Now I am on CM7.1 and am continuing to have the same problem. Wiping data seems to fix the problem, but it consistently returns after several days.
I did have some success with disabling sync and clearing data for the Contacts Storage and Google Framework applications, which seemed to stop the force-closing temporarily, but they did ultimately return. This only seemed to work for me once.
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download disk usage from the market and check to see how full your /datadata folder is. I bet its full. there is a thread on rootzwiki about. you can either delete some apps or jt has a tweak to fix the issue.
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Have you tried going 4 days without any restore of any kind?
Try a fresh install from atlas/pit/ed05 and go with that for 4 days... No restores.
Probably not the answer you want, but it sounds like your backups contain corrupt data.
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I agree with this. Last summer I ran into a series of similar issues (fc and what not) on several roms. What I learned for myself is i never restore ANYTHING. What I do use tho is APP LIST BACKUP which is a very convenient and fast way to download apps fresh from the market. I currently enjoy a fc free phone
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I've had my tab for almost a year and I always have the same issue with every single ROM. When I flash a ROM everything works great for a few hours but by the end of the day it gets soooo slow. It gets so slow web browsing is next to impossible. Scrolling web pages becomes painfully slow and even the most basic functions such as screen unlock and other basic UI slowdowns are driving me nuts. If I use recovery to wipe the cache & Dalvik cache things speed up quite a bit, while a factory reset or re-flash bring it back to where it should be for a few hours. Regardless, it always ends up slowing back down. I've used everything from Stock HC and stock ICS, Task650 ICS and HC, to CM9 and CM10 (to include AOKP and other CM based builds) and a few others with CPU speeds everywhere from stock to 1.4GHZ. I've also tried every kernel I've found to no avail. It runs great right after a flash which is why I find it hard to believe that my issue is simply "the Tegra 2 just sucks". Anyone else have similar issues or any insight?
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I've had my tab for almost a year and I always have the same issue with every single ROM. When I flash a ROM everything works great for a few hours but by the end of the day it gets soooo slow. It gets so slow web browsing is next to impossible. Scrolling web pages becomes painfully slow and even the most basic functions such as screen unlock and other basic UI slowdowns are driving me nuts. If I use recovery to wipe the cache & Dalvik cache things speed up quite a bit, while a factory reset or re-flash bring it back to where it should be for a few hours. Regardless, it always ends up slowing back down. I've used everything from Stock HC and stock ICS, Task650 ICS and HC, to CM9 and CM10 (to include AOKP and other CM based builds) and a few others with CPU speeds everywhere from stock to 1.4GHZ. I've also tried every kernel I've found to no avail. It runs great right after a flash which is why I find it hard to believe that my issue is simply "the Tegra 2 just sucks". Anyone else have similar issues or any insight?
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Is this slowdown also happening after factory reset with no additional apps installed? Could otherwise be one of your extra apps creating a memory/cache fragmentation. But if it happens on vanilla (i.e. no additional apps installed) it could be hardware?
I was going to ask the same thing as Just-another did. From my understanding the davlic cache is where the OS stores application loading information. read here for more details on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalvik_(software) The davlic also stores this information to speed the boot up process. when you wipe it, the OS has to reload this information into it about each application during hte boot process (thats why new flashes and boots after the davlic wipe take forever. With the introduction of ICS, I personally noticed that the OS actually told you it was preparing applications whereas GB and Froyo didnt do this. I had tablet that wiped it out each boot. that sucked.
I would suggest looking at the regular caches or your apps to see if one is hogging processes. then again, I may be way off base.
edit: this is a good concise explanation.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7541281/what-is-dalvik-and-dalvik-cache
This may be a bit simplistic but have you tried just rebooting your device? Mine sometimes slows down to a crawl and this fixes it for me..
I agree with Pickupman66,
I would start from scratch again.. Process of elimination. A nice CM10 should do it.. But don't load new apps at all for the 1st day (don't fill in you google acount details). Leave it standard, and see how it behaves over a 24 hour period. Then slowly install apps.. install the most common and confident ones first, and leave time to make sure they're not hogging the system. Sooner or later, you'll find the one that causing the issues.
Mickey
And it also interested me sometimes and I tab slow but works ok after restar not like it when I reset the time lost as the speed of response ?
I have a Samsung galaxy tab P7500 4.0.4 stock room . !
hi
i have galaxy s3 with JB 4.1.2 rooted I9300 rom Poland
and my problems start
1 . Even after cleaning and after WIPE high fine
He first 600 of 833MB
After a few minutes he 720 phone starts to feel like a slow
I go to games and everything works great no problem
But I hear songs song stuck in another and back again lodged a second
The battery runs down very quickly because of the high RAM
2. My alarm does not always ring
Once I woke up and saw it only vibrate
Even once someone called me and was just a vibrate
He calls me back and then have a song
3. Someone calls me take a few minutes to load the contact's name
4. My friend sent me a picture that SMS is not via software or something.
MMS.
So he sent and I do not get the picture he sent me.
If he sends only standard message I get. But if a picture is "MMS" I do not get.
Why?
and more problems!
i just want to back to ICS Seriously this version was only one problem the device heats up quickly and that's it.
Everything works great for me there is no problem. The device was amazing.
But in JB device always stuck full of problems
Do you have a solution to all these problems?
Do not tell me to delete just do WIPE or go to CM10 or something
Or you saying wait Android 5?
Sounds like you may have a bad app or bad something else. I have been on JB since the leaks and they are awesome compared to the ICS versions.
But you may want to download the most recent version and install it clean.
And wiping everything is a good thing as it cleans out phone and lets the user only reinstall the needed apps. Well for me at least
Sent from a Galaxy far away!!
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Sounds like you may have a bad app or bad something else. I have been on JB since the leaks and they are awesome compared to the ICS versions.
But you may want to download the most recent version and install it clean.
And wiping everything is a good thing as it cleans out phone and lets the user only reinstall the needed apps. Well for me at least
Sent from a Galaxy far away!!
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ever time i change my rom i do full wipe "everthing like new phone buyin now"
and i have backup for titanium backup ok
and all my app from google play i buy apps beecause I support developers
and i now what app is good or bad.
OK if your using titanium back up, only restore the app not the data.
There could be some old data that is messing it up. Like I said, its actually better to start all over and redownload all apps and start new.
Sent from a Galaxy far away!!
Can't say I share your experiences. Jelly bean is fine.
Do a full wipe and just don't restore any data or app...
That should fix all your problems
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OK if your using titanium back up, only restore the app not the data.
There could be some old data that is messing it up. Like I said, its actually better to start all over and redownload all apps and start new.
Sent from a Galaxy far away!!
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yes i know it i try to do it and is still have the problem
my brother have galaxy s3 4.1.2 and he phone have only the apps of Samsung
one day Alarm clock did not wake him. Was only vibration
he so mad And he was late for work
Yes I checked the settings of the clock all good.
Write it rings with vibration.
Only tremor was
I did it just ring was not noise at all.
I thought maybe the song chosen problem. And another song has this problem
Only it does not always happen rarely it happens ^
But never mind that I'm talking about the RAM problem
DramatikBeats said:
Can't say I share your experiences. Jelly bean is fine.
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Tovagulet said:
Do a full wipe and just don't restore any data or app...
That should fix all your problems
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How I said. I tried to follow to do a full cleaning cell phone just delete everything and install everything again
No backup software
Still have this problem
I forgot to say I have Kennerly siyah is great for my battery and lots of things
Maybe he this problem.? But I do not think
Amir12hbk said:
yes i know it i try to do it and is still have the problem
my brother have galaxy s3 4.1.2 and he phone have only the apps of Samsung
one day Alarm clock did not wake him. Was only vibration
he so mad And he was late for work
Yes I checked the settings of the clock all good.
Write it rings with vibration.
Only tremor was
I did it just ring was not noise at all.
I thought maybe the song chosen problem. And another song has this problem
Only it does not always happen rarely it happens ^
But never mind that I'm talking about the RAM problem
How I said. I tried to follow to do a full cleaning cell phone just delete everything and install everything again
No backup software
Still have this problem
I forgot to say I have Kennerly siyah is great for my battery and lots of things
Maybe he this problem.? But I do not think
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JB rom is pretty fine according my experiences, however if you are not satisfied with the stock one try a modded rom.
Regarding the RAM I wouldn't worry at all. Android takes care of the problem and will kill apps before ram gets overfilled as far a I understood. RAM I guess isn't the problem for any lags. I recommend to try different Kernels istead, Boeffla for example which works pretty fine with my rom.
Also battery drain is not a RAM problem it is caused by applications working in the background which suck the battery. There is a nice program in the App store called Greenify that allows you to fine tune this.
Format sdcard system data cache preload .
Flash whatever firmware you want via Odin .
Do not install apps or restore TB .
Test for one week problems then return to service .
jje
cbernie said:
JB rom is pretty fine according my experiences, however if you are not satisfied with the stock one try a modded rom.
Regarding the RAM I wouldn't worry at all. Android takes care of the problem and will kill apps before ram gets overfilled as far a I understood. RAM I guess isn't the problem for any lags. I recommend to try different Kernels istead, Boeffla for example which works pretty fine with my rom.
Also battery drain is not a RAM problem it is caused by applications working in the background which suck the battery. There is a nice program in the App store called Greenify that allows you to fine tune this.
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ok forget about the ram
what i need to do about my other problem ?
format the microsd card, then reinstall a JB rom from samfirmware using PC ODIN. Then re root... good luck
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format the microsd card, then reinstall a JB rom from samfirmware using PC ODIN. Then re root... good luck
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ok
thanks for help
Hi all,
I'm having an issue with Hyperdrive RSL12 but maybe there's a more generic fix. Basically every 10-15mins ill be using the phone and it will just stop responding to touchscreen input for 3-5 seconds. I generally keep most of the unnecessary features turn off (smart stay etc) and keep very few apps open. I've also tried the clear memory option in task manager. Wiped dalvik and chache once too. Nothing seems to fix the problem. Has anyone else experienced this on Hyperdrive or other ROMS? Is there anything else i should be trying short of wiping everything and starting from scratch? Thanks for any advice!
Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this question. I can't post to dev forums yet.
stromgald2 said:
Hi all,
I'm having an issue with Hyperdrive RSL12 but maybe there's a more generic fix. Basically every 10-15mins ill be using the phone and it will just stop responding to touchscreen input for 3-5 seconds. I generally keep most of the unnecessary features turn off (smart stay etc) and keep very few apps open. I've also tried the clear memory option in task manager. Wiped dalvik and chache once too. Nothing seems to fix the problem. Has anyone else experienced this on Hyperdrive or other ROMS? Is there anything else i should be trying short of wiping everything and starting from scratch? Thanks for any advice!
Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this question. I can't post to dev forums yet.
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You should do a clean flash with a factory data wipe just to be sure any changes you might have made since installing HyperDrive aren't the culprit.
Make a full nandroid backup first just in case it has no effect.
You might also want to try and "retrace your steps" so to speak.
How long ago did this issue appear?
Were any changes made around that time, particularly changes related to performance, like CPU governors/frequencies or I/O scheduler (note that changes also includes installing apps, as rarely you'll get a troublesome one that starts at boot)?
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So I was using the CM11 mod for my fascinate for about 2 months. The first 2 weeks of using it, it was awesome. After that, my RAM was going down for no reason, and i had some problems but i could fix it by optimizing my device.
A few days ago, my phone kept crashing. I kept on getting messages that Trebuchet had failed, Clock had failed, Play Store Services have failed, etc. Today morning, almost everything on my phone failed. It would just keep reloading the home page. I restarted my device several times, but after that nothing would really load.My battery had about 93% charge and i went to school. When it was 3rd period in school, my battery was 15%. I had no applications running. I just turned it off
When i got home, it would load but everything was slow. i optimized, cleared cache and everything but it wouldn't work. When i open an app, it takes a long time to load. The home screen, and menu pop us normally, but the apps are slow. I really dont know what to do and what ROM to move onto next. Im not getting a new phone for a while, and i really need help.
What ROM should i flash? I need something stable, that wont have problems like this. I also like to use Facebook a lot.
Please help me with my problem because i really want my phone to work. I bought the phone for $200 and it was a bad decision, since all these problems started occurring. What ROM would be the best for me?
@samsung striker
Wow, you have a lot going in there...
Hopefully when you say cm11, it's the version from unjust 06/04/14
That thing is ridiculously stable...
I'll start off with this, Facebook and any fb messenger apps are huge memory hogs.
Next, i saw you mention optimize several times, what program are you using to do that with?
The particular problem i see with the fascinate right now is browsing and using social media sites fill up the cache folder quickly. When that happens the phone well act like you have described.
You can easily fill the cache on one or two days depending on how heavily you browse.
At a minimum, what i think you need to do is boot into recovery and wipe cache and davlik.
Then reboot and let it rebuild things, if things don't smooth out within 15 minutes of booting up, go ahead and reboot again to see if it clears up.
It's very possible if you filled up the cache it probably tried to write information somewhere else and why it freaking out
I would recommend ever other day wiping cache from in recovery and you should be real safe with things and the ROM would be very stable.
If you have done that and are still having issues,,,
Or if you at ready to sacrifice losing your call history and text history and apps etc,,, Go ahead in recovery and do the factory reset,,, it will wipe your apps and stored data (not download items like music or zip files) & put everything back just like you did a fresh install of cm11, so you have to set up all your preferences and gapps and other apps you want all over again
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Yea i use Facebook a lot. I like to download a lot of apps and most of the time it works fine, but sometimes these problems start to occur, followed by a lot of lag.
When i optimize my device, i optimize it with this program called "Smart Booster." I also use this other app called "Fast Reboot."
Anyways, ill try what you suggested and see if it works well. If it doesn't work out for me, do you have any other Rom's in mind that are better for me?
Thanks.
I had the same issue pop up a week or two ago. Cleared cache and Dalvik on a semi-regular basis (although I probably browse less than it sounds like you do) but it didn't do too much for me. Ended up on the most recent CM 10.1 nightly and only installed the apps I use regularly instead of my usual restore of every app that had a TiBu backup. It's been working great for me over the past week or so. Personally, I couldn't handle the data drops on CM 11 any longer either, so CM 10.1 has been a good solution on that front.
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I had the same issue pop up a week or two ago. Cleared cache and Dalvik on a semi-regular basis (although I probably browse less than it sounds like you do) but it didn't do too much for me. Ended up on the most recent CM 10.1 nightly and only installed the apps I use regularly instead of my usual restore of every app that had a TiBu backup. It's been working great for me over the past week or so. Personally, I couldn't handle the data drops on CM 11 any longer either, so CM 10.1 has been a good solution on that front.
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How did you go back to CM 10.1 Nightly? Did you just download and flash it? Im worried that somethings gonna happen since im going to JB from KK. I wanted to try the PAC man Rom.
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I had the same issue pop up a week or two ago. Cleared cache and Dalvik on a semi-regular basis (although I probably browse less than it sounds like you do) but it didn't do too much for me. Ended up on the most recent CM 10.1 nightly and only installed the apps I use regularly instead of my usual restore of every app that had a TiBu backup. It's been working great for me over the past week or so. Personally, I couldn't handle the data drops on CM 11 any longer either, so CM 10.1 has been a good solution on that front.
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Also, Can you please post the link for the CM 10.1 Nightly? i cant seem to find it.. Thanks
Grab the latest nightly from the CyanogenMod site - I PM'd you the link since I can't post them here.
I booted into recovery, wiped data/cache/dalvik and installed the zip. It failed, I rebooted back into recovery, and installed the zip again and it worked without a hitch. Very similar to flashing CM 11.
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Grab the latest nightly from the CyanogenMod site - I PM'd you the link since I can't post them here.
I booted into recovery, wiped data/cache/dalvik and installed the zip. It failed, I rebooted back into recovery, and installed the zip again and it worked without a hitch. Very similar to flashing CM 11.
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Yea thanks for the help
So i flashed it, and it was working pretty good. I downloaded a few apps such as Messenger, Kik, TB, Smart Lock, and Clash of clans. It was working well, until i used Facebook Messenger, which made it lag just a little. I used clash of clans, and it did lag a little so i had to get Smart Booster, and optimize.
I like to download a lot of apps so im not sure how my device would handle it, since im experiencing a little lag from these few apps. Did you download similar apps as me? Also, do you like to download a lot of apps? Im just asking just to see how well your Fascinate runs compared to mine.
Again, thanks for the help. My Fascinate runs better now
Im gonna try to get a custom kernel and see what happens.
I found that when I installed ALL of my apps that the phone would slow down significantly. I just have the essentials now - a few games, a few social apps, and some other items, well below what I had earlier. The Fassy didn't respond too well when I had a ton of apps on there, so I scaled back and it seems to be working a lot better for me. The single-core can only handle so much - hopefully Devil or another kernel will help you out if you need additional apps!
layjn said:
I found that when I installed ALL of my apps that the phone would slow down significantly. I just have the essentials now - a few games, a few social apps, and some other items, well below what I had earlier. The Fassy didn't respond too well when I had a ton of apps on there, so I scaled back and it seems to be working a lot better for me. The single-core can only handle so much - hopefully Devil or another kernel will help you out if you need additional apps!
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Yea that's the bad thing about the fascinate, and i don't think there are any kernels for Cm 10.1 because I searched online, and couldn't find anything.
Check out HHP's thread in the General section - plenty of JB kernels to choose from. I think Devil was the most widely liked from that group if I remember correctly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149067
layjn said:
Check out HHP's thread in the General section - plenty of JB kernels to choose from. I think Devil was the most widely liked from that group if I remember correctly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149067
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Thanks