[Q] AOSP vs Sense ROMS - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Experts out there. Looking for your opinion and preferences.
I am currently running BAMF's SoaB ROM with Sense 3.5. I started having some Sense restarting issues, especially when returning from apps. So I decided to reinstall GoLauncher and haven't had any problems since.
So the question I have is this. (I have only recently rooted, so I am a noob)
If I don't really plan on using sense, and I don't really miss the sense widgets, are the AOSP roms faster in terms of screen transitions, opening apps, closing running apps, memory maintanence, power consumtion?
Is it better to have Sense or give AOSP roms a shot? Or should I find a Senseless ROM?
Reason I have not just gone and done the instillation of anything else, it two fold. Time is limited to me (Mondays are my free day, so I am catching up on other things) and my wife is still unhappy that I have rooted and installed a custom ROM, so doing it again without data would really piss her off. Happy wife, happy life.
So any opinions, advice, recomendation, etc would be great. Thanks again guys and gals!

Whatever you do , do not flash ics android 4.0 its unstable.
My opinion if you like a lot of theming then go with sense 3.5/3.0
But if you don't care about the looks and just want a fast stable Rom go with Aosp roms they are faster

wus132 said:
Whatever you do , do not flash ics android 4.0 its unstable.
My opinion if you like a lot of theming then go with sense 3.5/3.0
But if you don't care about the looks and just want a fast stable Rom go with Aosp roms they are faster
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I found Sense to be difficult to theme to my taste, hard to change icons, fonts, etc. But using an alternative launcher I can go theme crazy! Thanks for the information, looks like AOSP 1, Sense 0 so far!

I guess what I ment to say was all the widgets look good on sense , but it might just be the Rom you Downloaded that causes the force closes. What phone do you have ?

Whoops, forgot the important stuff! Running a Thunderbolt. And the ROM was fine for a good month, and it seems to just be internet based programs that cause it to restart. When returning home from those like internet explorer or inbrowser, it flashes to the white screen then back to Sense. No biggie because I rarely have reboots now, and its still pretty quick. And battery is fantastic!

Then it all depends on your taste just read all the bugs when viewing a ROM. I'm running a sense 3.5 ROM and prefer if better then Aosp. Hope I helped.

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Most Stable, Least Quirky ROM now?

Hello all,
I was just wondering what your impressions were re, the most stable ROM out now, the one with the least issues. Is there one that seems to be most hassle-free? I'm not nessasarily looking for a lot of bells and whistles...
Thanks!
Used to enjoy Theory's ROMs but felt that every few weeks he'd discontinue a ROM and release a new one. If you want a sense ROM that has a good following, I'm gonna be taking a look at SynergyROM, or if you want a non-sense ROM (AKA AOSP) I'd go CM7 (CynergyMod 7).
I'm aosp fan personally. I've used Cyanogenmod extensively, as well as Omgb. I'm currently running TheROM V4 and it is rock solid stable and very responsive. Not many bells and whistles. Just vanilla gingerbread.
It depends on what you want aosp or sense
For me I'm an aosp girl I'm running cyanogenmod 7 v1.7 loving it and. Ill give the kernel I'm using for battery life
If I don't want aosp anymore I always go to. http://teambamf.net/
I love das bamf! or if not go to http://themikmik.com/forumdisplay.php?1004-HTC-Thunderbolt-Developer-Forum I personal really like chingy's roms
I don't like Droid theory just saying
If you like sense, I really like Chingy's Gingeritis 3D.
Second vote for Gingeritis 3D. Stable and great battery life if you just use better governors.
Definitely the wrong forum, bro.
been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
ShiftS3ns3 by DroidTho3ry rocks - give it a shot.
I think I'm going to give Gingeritis 3D a try. I'm not a pro at flashing new ROMs... i've only done it once (running BAMF 1.3 now). Is there anything special I should do? Is it just like flashing the BAMF ROM? (can I do it from ROM Manager?)
Thanks!
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been rocking cleantheory to shiftsense for the past two weeks. both have been rock solid. DT is stopping development though, so take it for whatever that means. i think at some point all ROMS eventually lose development. hopefully whatever you choose is good enough for your daily driver if you dont like flashing over and over.
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DT mentioned that he's taking a break, so hopefully he won't be gone too long. His work is better than stock.. HTC ought to hire him and get out of his way.
If you want Sense ROM, can't go wrong with SkyRaider Preview 2 or ShiftS3NS3.
If you want AOSP based ROM, SHIFTAO5P hasn't given me any problems whatsoever.
If you can live without the 3d, skyraider preview 2 is rock solid.
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FWIW, I have been pretty pleased with the Synergy ROMs and I'd be running one now but...... I was one who fell victim to either the ROM Manager update or the CWM update and now cannot restore any of my backups. I tried various earlier CWMs w/o success and finally un-rooted, installed stock, did the OTA update and I'm back 100% stock.
I mention this because it's relevent to the question..... Battery life is good, the stability is excellent and, once customized to my liking, I really can't see much difference other than the "billions and billions" of crap apps VZW and HTC have added to the phone. If I could get rid of them I'd be just fine with the stock ROM believe it or not!
I'll probably re-root at some point and it's VERY likely I'll go back to the Synergy ROM because it works. I've had rebooting problems with other ROMs I've tried and I'm no longer in a mood to experiment, maybe later?
OK, it's later. I rooted, using Revolutionary, used Titanium backup to remove VZWs crapware and then figured why not? and installed the latest Synergy ROM.
I guess I just can't live with a non-rooted phone for 24 hours..... <sigh>
i keep trying out different roms all the time(sense & aosp based) and find that i'll keep going back to Synergy. it seems the most stable just i having issues with settling with just one rom.
Everyone has a different opinion on what stable is. I think CM7 is plenty stable, but there are those that disagree for whatever logical/illogical reason. Mainly, if you aren't prepared to encounter issues either brought up by your own experimenting or those of the ROM developer, I would stay with what the phone came with and be happy you have a phone that (sort of) works
If you are more brave, then read on.
If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM. ROMs are generally bleeding edge and users accept the fact they may have bugs in exchange for the phone doing more than what HTC and verizon allowed them to do. However, ignore most comments, because those are generally just people that screwed something up either knowingly or unknowingly. Like people that go the the hospital (for those that have family members that work at one), not everyone is ready to admit they did something stupid and have it on public display
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If you read the comments about most ROMs, there is no such thing as a 100% infallible, will never ever let you down, stable ROM.
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Skyraider with Ziggy's kernel is EXACTLY this. It has average to good battery life though. Everything works, including it being compatible with call recording and incredicontrol (voltage control app). It also has the notification tweaks that no one has quite duplicated and I have grown to love.
I find Synergy to be an excellent rom as well, but the themes available do not suit me at all. It does support everything with good battery life and also adds HTC Hub which is awesome. It also has DConfig, which I just have not gotten a great benefit from but I guess some might.
The theory sense rom was smooth as silk, and seemed to be a happy medium between the first two I posted.
Chingy's rom is VERY slick, but very vanilla. The fact that it is Odexed makes theming harder I think, but for me that means I cannot replace the HTC browser with the AOSP one, and I HATE THE SENSE BROWSER lol.
ALL AOSP roms seem to have squashed most of the crappy battery issues and get great battery life now. This added to a FAR FAR FAR better bluetooth stack for better use with wireless devices like Jawbone, AND compatability with PS3 hardware make them an awesome choice. The ONLY problem is the lack of reliable network location. This means google maps works perfect, but your web browser can and will put you across the world sometimes, as well as weather apps etc. This rules it out for me for now.
Hope that helps
Shifts3ns3 has been the best for me, while I liked synergy, it had more bugs and seemed much slower to me, shift has the useful 3.0 features without the slowdown of a full sense 3.0 rom
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Looking for the perfect ROM. Need help.

Has anyone been using a ROM for HTC EVO 3d they love?. I'm looking for a ROM that is fast (snappy), saves battery, everything works great, and tips the charts on linpack and benchmarks that comes with an outstanding kernel that is 100% working with the ROM. If you think your using this or may have found one please let me know. Thanks.
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Try LeeDroid 3. There is no custom kernel yet.
I swear by CleanROM DE. Easily adjustable OC, everything works, good battery, and the dev is really helpful and friendly.
aFoodStampBaby said:
Has anyone been using a ROM for HTC EVO 3d they love?. I'm looking for a ROM that is fast (snappy), saves battery, everything works great, and tips the charts on linpack and benchmarks that comes with an outstanding kernel that is 100% working with the ROM. If you think your using this or may have found one please let me know. Thanks.
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Try EvoZoneRed_2.3.4...
I've been using it for a while, its Good!
Best ROM has to be viper ROM. It's super fast and its actually beening upgraded to the 2.34 version and its getting tested. That's for sure the best ROM out there.
Go with deck's, stable,reliable,and battery life is amazing. Unfortunately, he seems to have disappeared for a while now...
Deff warm twopointthree. Still in beta, but it's by far the best looking rom. stable. Lots of features and. Cm7-like customization. Good battery too.
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Lmfao everyone has a diff answer. Sorry bro, time to flash all of them
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aFoodStampBaby said:
Has anyone been using a ROM for HTC EVO 3d they love?. I'm looking for a ROM that is fast (snappy), saves battery, everything works great, and tips the charts on linpack and benchmarks that comes with an outstanding kernel that is 100% working with the ROM. If you think your using this or may have found one please let me know. Thanks.
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Best ROM I have used is still ViperROM
I tried out a bunch of roms today, coming from stock rooted and then steel 2.2 which I ran till this weekend. I'm looking for a stable daily driver, but since I was flashing anyways I decided to try out some of the new features out there. Keep in mind I used each rom probably for less than 30 min, so I am really just giving a first impression on what I liked. Also, I didn't take battery into account, which has been great for me stock, rooted, or otherwise.
JoelZ9614 - Runnymede sense 3.5 port v1
Sense 3.5 is great. It runs noticeably smoother than stock sense 3.0, and most custom roms running sense 3.0. By smoother I mean when you swipe screens and the carousel. The beats splash is the coolest splash I've seen, and the beats audio feature has a noticeable difference in how the device sounds, even if it is just eq'ing it fits my style of music to make it sound better. My first install froze up a bunch, requiring battery pulls, that was after wiping everything once. Second time I flashed this rom I wiped multiple times, may have even ran a superwipe type zip. Second time didn't have the lock ups, everything seemed to be in order. Updated widgets and menus make sense 3.5 desirable - even if it isn't much of an upgrade to 3.0. I didn't notice if this rom had the new 3.5 homescreen widgets, it was outfitted with the updated sense clock but that was it. Still very nice, and was my favorite rom of the bunch. It needs camera/3d/4g to be a viable option for me, which I hope is fixed soon with all the people working on sense 3.5.
Virus - Infected Rom Eternity RLS 1.2.2
I was very impressed by this rom as well, I've used Virus's roms on my 4g and like his work a lot. The smoothness through screen on this rom was very comparable to the sense 3.5 rom, more smooth than overclocked roms I tried. Beats audio works well on this rom also. The extra tweaks/options included in this rom make it really great - it's something that us rom flashers really need to appreciate, easy customization is great for me as someone who doesn't want to keep messing with stuff and than seeing how it looks and then having to flash/edit more files to check it out again. This rom is fast and smooth, and has a lot of transition effects that are different than other roms. I wasn't too fond of the way dialogue boxes popped in kinda sideways, but everything else was awesome, particularly the animation when pressing the back button and exiting screens. The animations do make everything feel smoother and more polished, and there's a lot of features added to this rom that work. This rom had less free ram than some other options out there, but similar to stock/stock based roms. I don't think this is a bad thing, as everything ran quickly and smoothly, but may account for lower benchmarks than others if that's your thing. Theme on this rom is friggin schweet. The newest 1.2.2 version looks like a winner.
MIUI.us/Scott951 - MIUI 1.9.23
I'm someone who never used MIUI as my own daily driver, but I've installed it for others. The main reason is 4g, I wanted to have it. I still took a look to see how it was. The Evo3D package is quite nice, there are some nice widgets packed along with it that I don't believe are part of MIUI, like a sense type clock that has easy to configure touch options for the various parts. The rom installed very quickly as it was a small file, and ran beautifully for the time I tried it. The many options and individual theming options seemed quite appealing, and I can see why so many MIUI installs end up so beautifully presented by some flashers out here. I remember not liking the contacts app - it was either slow or something else bothered me. The messaging app stood out to me as interesting tho. I may have been getting it confused with the next rom, as I spent very little time with MIUI.
Vaelek - Vaelpak 3D RC2
Vaelek is another devloper I have experience with from my Evo4g. His rom was the first one I used to have customization options after install, and also the first rom I used that had a non-sense launcher on it. Vaelpak 3D RC2 was my first experience using Go Launcher EX. I've used both Launcher Pro and ADW EX, and found Go Launcher EX to really outshine the two tried and trusted launchers with all the extras they've been adding. Go launcher hasn't exactly been a secret for some time now, but I was still impressed by all it has to offer these days with all the Go apps, widgets and themes it really gives every other launcher from sense to MIUI a run for its money. Go launcher stock looks great, and the themes I looked at looked terrific as well. I also love the screen transition options, they made me chuckle a bit. Vaelpak manages to keep a lot of stock sense underlay/apps, and still has a lot of free memory to spare. Rom ran great and might be calling my name later if I get curious about Go Launcher, but I didn't give it a full try as I wasn't sure I wanted to take time to learn/configure it to be my daily driver.
toastcfh - CyanogenMod 7 VALPHA3
I knew I wasn't going to daily this but just wanted to test it out. Thought it was going to be super smooth, which it is, but the nexus LWP used didn't seem to be running the best or wasn't the best version of it, cuz it looked a tad laggy to me. Having used CM7 before, it's a rom whose reputation speaks for itself with options/speed, and I'm sure this version is no different.
scrosler - Clean Rom Developers Edition
My first taste of Evo3D overclock. Found the screen transitions to be less smooth than Sense 3.5/Infected, but was better than stock though. There was a lot of free memory to work with on this rom. I tried using the rom updater to change some of the theme, but after flashing some of the zips in recovery I didn't notice any change, perhaps I did something wrong. I find themes/icon sets in other roms to look better, although this rom had a very "proper" look to it, and stood out as sort of an "HD" version of a stockish rom. I think I would stick a theme on this and call it a day. The overclock made for some good benchmarks, I didn't take the time to install games and test out differences there. This does seem to be a choice overclocking rom though, keeping sense but making it far less of a hog. . Ran solid for me, no bugs in short term testing.
SteelH - SteelRom v2.62
Coming from Steel v2.2, I hadn't updated previously because I didn't have any problems and everything was just great - I was running the Honeycomb theme by mayfield with zeus mods and didn't really cave in to the new rom features till I saw sense 3.5 on my friend's tbolt and saw how smooth it was compared to my phone. I hoped I would find another stable release from Steel, which has so far been the case. The rom has a few aesthetic tweaks over stock which I like, and runs well. I kind of want my zeus mods back, which I may try to get thru the honeycomb theme if it lets me. The notification icons are a little like Clean Rom in that they are stockish, but I prefer the honeycomb/stock gingerbread type ones over both. Everything about this rom feels solid, and the black sense clock I've preferred since my evo4g is included here and looks great. I actually have been trying to get a black sense clock with no background - might even try Shogun just for that reason. Beats audio in this rom really isn't what it is in sense 3.5/infected roms, it feels like less of an improvement and more like the stock eq settings. I feel at home running SteelH's roms, as he fits the niche that I look for - stability and the more important new features you would want in a custom rom.
Things I noticed testing all these:
Roms with Beats Audio/DSP Manager - I had been using DSP Manager to up my handset speaker volume by doing custom EQ and all the levels. The roms with Beats Audio from the XE port sounded about the same without using the DSP Manager EQ, and when I turned the EQ on it actually LOWERED the handset speaker volume, even with the EQ levels turned up. On roms with the beats audio that wasn't the ported version like on SteelH's rom, using the DSP Manager EQ makes the speaker volume louder and better IMO.
Transparent Notifications/app drawer - I strongly prefer transparent notifications, and found it implemented a little differently in various roms/themes. There's some more opaque, some more transparent, different color fonts. I didn't have too many issues reading them, I just liked it more when it looked consistent, like with the rest of the drop down and the quick settings.
Customizable quick settings - This should be a must for every rom! If you can put them in a different order someone tell me cause that would be perfect.
Remapping the personalization button - why doesn't HTC let you do this? I mean, it is the "personalization" button. Just slap some generic shape on there or something. One rom let me change this to broswer but it didn't work. I don't remember which one. Another let me change it and it worked fine.
Infected Eternity/ SteelRom win best dialer award
Would like to see more custom lock rings/lock ring docks out there!
Lots of interesting splash screens out there
Cameras - ISO1250 seems to make noticeably different pictures, nice to have this option. I have no idea if 8mp did anything, I guess if I pull a pic to the PC I could check it out. Touch screen shots work better than the camera button, but I use the button anyways because it just feels nicer to do. Anyone have any idea why the button lags and if it can be fixed somehow? Haven't looked to see if the compression fix for images changes anything either, maybe a comparison is in order.
Everyone who worked on removing the HTC spyware stuff has to be commended. I feel like that is the biggest difference in rooting this phone, removing that stuff makes the phone run so much better and has been less buggy for me as well. I believe Treve was a major player in this.
Support for these roms has been phenomenal. All these roms had threads with constant updates and feedback between developers and users, making them some of the many standouts on these boards.
I don't know if me writing this up helps anyone as tests were so short, but maybe it gives you an idea of what to check out. I haven't gotten around to trying out roms until lately because my phone was running great and it takes so long to try out all of them, and there's still more I wanted to test.
All the roms I tried surprised me, except MIUI and CM7, which I had varying experience with before and always feel polished. It feels like Evo3D development is picking up quite a bit, and is getting very good. Major ups to you guys cooking up these roms.
As a new Droid user, and seeing that there is so many options out there, its like asking which flavor ice cream is the best, all depends on the user and what their eye in the first place to flash it,
However I run cleanrom2.5 with the bcblend kernal and this thing is dam quick. And Scott provides superb support with all of his work. So what's your favorite ice cream? Lol, just look thro some posts and find what sounds decent and complete to you and flash it.
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Thanks for everyone's feedback I greatly appreciated. I just installed steal ROM and its nice. Fast, even while being underclocked. Could use a couple of things like 8mm cam, more bloatware removed, more quick settings. Things I like. What do you guys think about his ROM?
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Cleanrom has no bloat, lots of settings and options, its been cleaned up nicely, steel is very popular as well amoung the masses you just gotta try it and see what happens see if you like it or not,
Kernals are the performance boosters, to me the kernal is more important than the ROM, so just try some different things and see what u like
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Not sure if anyone else tried this but...

Hey everyone, so I like all the ROM's are coming out with for this phone and decided to jump on the Bamf rom train this weekend. I like the Team Bamf stuff and trust their ROM's but HATE the sense UI.
SO - I used the clean tool to disable the sense UI on this ROM and setup Go Launcher with no issues at all. I know this isnt anything amazing but I know some of you out their are overly cautious with your phones (like me) and was a bit worried it would cause a problem with the ROM.
janderson2k said:
Hey everyone, so I like all the ROM's are coming out with for this phone and decided to jump on the Bamf rom train this weekend. I like the Team Bamf stuff and trust their ROM's but HATE the sense UI.
SO - I used the clean tool to disable the sense UI on this ROM and setup Go Launcher with no issues at all. I know this isnt anything amazing but I know some of you out their are overly cautious with your phones (like me) and was a bit worried it would cause a problem with the ROM.
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Yeah, even with just a rooted phone, as long as you have another launcher installed, you can freeze or uninstall the Sense desktop. Before I found Chingy and Newt's rom, I was doing that with Go Launcher. It does make the phone run nice and smooth, but so does a rom that actually knows how to use Sense.

[Q] What would you say the most stable ics rom is??

I was wondering what you guys would say the most stable ics rom is??
Ive been using scotts senseless rom and its been ok just a few problems. before that i had his cleanrom but i just cant like sense that much something about it kinda turns me off..
what do you guys think?
ima add one more question to this thread.. Where i live my signal is finicky as it is but im thinking running ics has made my signal drop is this a problem or is it just me trippin out?
moldaz said:
ima add one more question to this thread.. Where i live my signal is finicky as it is but im thinking running ics has made my signal drop is this a problem or is it just me trippin out?
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I'm running CleanROM 2.3 completely desensed and it's as stable as Gingerbread.
yeah i was thinking about going back to it to many system ui crashes and other lil bugs in the aosp roms is it updated to the 4.0.3 with sense 3.6?
&& how is it desensed?
I really didn't like the battery life on cleanrom 2.x or desensed. I switched to cleanrom 1.6.5 and getting nice battery life.
I found Nils business sense ICS to be the most stable. But the small pluses of ICS didn't make the cut compared to the battery life and ease of use of Gingerbread. Especially once the new wore off. Back to CleanROM 1.6.5 for me too!
All of the ics roms have the same root issues really- that being blue screen flicker, etc. I'm on nils currently cause I like his out of the box notification mods.
Ics rules but I think may go back to gb (until an official) for some issues that are irking me. Vid chat doesn't work on skype, gchat, etc. Can't crop pics or do certain effects in the gallery. Beats eq is not working correctly. Again, most of these are probs that follow all of the ics roms and the devs have done a fantastic job -but I may just end up going back until these talented folks get their hands on an official build. I think they've reached a point where there's not a whole lot left to do with this current build. But like I said, what they've managed to do with this early build is damned amazing.
i flashed back to clean rom and desensed removed everything and so far it seems alot more stables im not getting any word that things are crashing even when making calls like it did before not to shabby i say plus the gallery from the camera i was having that problem in senslessrom
You guys running ICS, can someone confirm whether the folders are the new ICS folders like the Gnex has.
do you mean the folders in the launcher? then yes if you have the stock ics launcher
I'm loving Business-ICS
The skins, overall stability is pretty awesome. The one huge issue is battery life. On stock, I had it to where I could get at average just under 2 days of battery with my extended (2750mah) battery. With this ROM, with almost nothing running, and leaving the screen low-use, and LTE turned off, etc, I still can't get more than 6 hours at BEST on a full charge! Is anyone else seeing this? Do I need to look at flashing to a ziggy kernel or something? Or is it just part of the leaked ICS that the devs have to work from?
I was getting 10 hours on my stock battery running senseless ics rom with a hour of navigation and pandora on pretty much the whole time (lte disabled) +texting+ facebook and what ever else and i was left with more than 25 %
I've been using Scott's senseless since it was launched its an awesome rom but alot of fc's figured I'd try tachi's senseless 4.0 (which is based off one if Scott's roms) with the USB fix and HTC mms fix and runs super stable best senseless ics I've tried so far. Sounds like there are some pretty good rooms on the way though. Feel free to try them all out and find what you like best though.
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My personal favorites would have to be by NilsP, lllboredlll, and Scrosler. All are pretty stable roms.
I've been holding out on trying any roms, still on stock. Just the topic I need to follow here
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hondapowergt30r said:
I've been using Scott's senseless since it was launched its an awesome rom but alot of fc's figured I'd try tachi's senseless 4.0 (which is based off one if Scott's roms) with the USB fix and HTC mms fix and runs super stable best senseless ics I've tried so far. Sounds like there are some pretty good rooms on the way though. Feel free to try them all out and find what you like best though.
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I must echo that Tachi's 4.0 rom is pretty good (with the fixes). I can't wait until we get a fully working AOSP rom. Scott's are good as well (the CleanROM 2.3 is actually a bit better than the Senseless, but... has Sense).
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The skins, overall stability is pretty awesome. The one huge issue is battery life. On stock, I had it to where I could get at average just under 2 days of battery with my extended (2750mah) battery. With this ROM, with almost nothing running, and leaving the screen low-use, and LTE turned off, etc, I still can't get more than 6 hours at BEST on a full charge! Is anyone else seeing this? Do I need to look at flashing to a ziggy kernel or something? Or is it just part of the leaked ICS that the devs have to work from?
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I do get worse battery life on ICS (running cleanrom 2.2sp1), but not that bad, I still get 10-16 hours before swapping extended batteries.
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do you mean the folders in the launcher? then yes if you have the stock ics launcher
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Yes, I'm talking about the launcher. When I had the GNex and I created a folder, it showed the icons stacked on top of each other rather than the plain folder that GB has. So the stock ICS launcher on the Rezound shows the icons like the GNex does? I'm asking because I was worried that Sense would not have that feature.
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Yes, I'm talking about the launcher. When I had the GNex and I created a folder, it showed the icons stacked on top of each other rather than the plain folder that GB has. So the stock ICS launcher on the Rezound shows the icons like the GNex does? I'm asking because I was worried that Sense would not have that feature.
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sense doesnt offer this but you can get the aosp launcher pretty easy theres desense scripts that you can run for ics that will give you all this
I think I might help
do not get ics all are unstable and i bricked my phone doing this well my friends extra phone I had to wipe the phone completely clen and starting over. I am downloading all roms tring to find something that works again. but like all post ineffabilis is the only one that comes close to restoreing the phone. I will update later to see if I can restore a dead phone but leave ics only until offical update.

Newly unlocked: prefer Sense or Viper

I know alot of folks here have recently JTAG'd or just aquired an s-off dna. so now that you've have a chance to look at the scene... what do you prefer?
The Viper team won't do Sense 5 and the Sense 5 ROMS are basically stock. So from what i can tell, Sense 5 ROMS look like the same as the DNA unrooted but with the currents/blinkfeed widget.
I haven't tried the Viper ROMS yet, but will this week. I'm just curious on what people are settling on.
orateam said:
I know alot of folks here have recently JTAG'd or just aquired an s-off dna. so now that you've have a chance to look at the scene... what do you prefer?
The Viper team won't do Sense 5 and the Sense 5 ROMS are basically stock. So from what i can tell, Sense 5 ROMS look like the same as the DNA unrooted but with the currents/blinkfeed widget.
I haven't tried the Viper ROMS yet, but will this week. I'm just curious on what people are settling on.
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I prefer Sense 5. I've tried both. Sense 5 is definitely not Sense 4 with a Blinkfeed widget...
Won't touch a sense 4 rom anymore. You can't make me.
Sense 5 is gorgeous IMHO.
chrisomnia1 said:
Won't touch a sense 4 rom anymore. You can't make me.
Sense 5 is gorgeous IMHO.
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Same story here.
And I honestly can't wait(even though I know I'll be waiting for a while) for viper on sense 5.
But @op, the only sense 5 rom you can call stock is joelzs stock one. All of the others are pretty customized.
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love sense 5
aleadag said:
love sense 5
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Would have to throw in with the sense 5 guys. I hope the Viper team is reading and makes the call. I know they are considering it.
Minus BlinkFeed, Sense 5 is quite nice.
I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
CharliesTheMan said:
I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
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I like Blinkfeed. I have it set to show all the tech sites and the news I like. It does a pretty good job of summarizing the highlights. Way better than the google CURRENTS app. Although i didn't hate currents either.
I loaded viper but don't think i gave it a chance. Ive tried NOS and now on Hatka sense. Love the toggle bar and circle widgets and the built in personal hotspot.
But I'll giving Viper another go for sure. Normally I'd have about 4 to 5 restores, but with only 16 gig, i know i can't do that. I'll finishing searching for the best sense5, then back it up and go for Viper.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
orateam said:
I like Blinkfeed. I have it set to show all the tech sites and the news I like. It does a pretty good job of summarizing the highlights. Way better than the google CURRENTS app. Although i didn't hate currents either.
I loaded viper but don't think i gave it a chance. Ive tried NOS and now on Hatka sense. Love the toggle bar and circle widgets and the built in personal hotspot.
But I'll giving Viper another go for sure. Normally I'd have about 4 to 5 restores, but with only 16 gig, i know i can't do that. I'll finishing searching for the best sense5, then back it up and go for Viper.
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Currently still using Viper 1.1.3 with custom Kernel. Will update Viper soon though. I would try Sense 5 ROM but the connection in my location is just horrid.
Will NOT use Sense 5 until you can get rid of blinkfeed. Sense 4+ is good enough for me ViperDNA
lol. seems like most love Sense 5 but nobody loves blinkfeed.
I like it, it reminds me of a better 'CURRENTS'. But i'm gonna try VIPER soon,so i'm itching to see realworld customizations.
CharliesTheMan said:
I run a Viper setup and a Sense 5 setup. I'm also running another sense 4+ setup that's oh so sweet. But typically speaking I keep a nandroid backup of each so I can just do a full wipe and restore what I want to run.
They both have their strong points, Viper offers the ultimate in customization.
But sense 5 has a lot of customizations and tweaks and performance improvements, especially Newt's rom. And there's a big update that should be dropping anytime now. Not as many different configuration options, but its still quite a bit improved and modified over stock.
Maybe it's because the JTAG guy have been stock so long, but I think only choosing one or the other is a big mistake. You should run one for a few days and then run the other for a few days.
Oh and blinkfeed isn't all bad, there was a lot of negative speculation pre release and still from people that haven't run it. I fully expected to hate it honestly. I'm not really a widget kind of person and I saw it as a permanent widget. But when I actually set it up and use it, I think it's pretty cool. However I don't do social networking like facebook. Generally speaking I don't even set blinkfeed up unless I'm going to be running that rom for a while. I'd like it removable but I'd MUCH rather have it there than not because I think it's good for HTC, it's something that wins over a lot of new to android type general consumers. And sales and the phones in peoples hands is better for all of us.
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Had the Viper installed for the last few days. all i can say is wow. Not missing sense 5 one bit. The amount of customizations on this rom are just sick. But more importantly, the ease of changing these via the venom tweaks menu buttons are amazing. Can change the status bar in nearly unlimited fashion, can change fonts, can change icons, etc... All of these things can be done of course on any rom, but it's all built in with menus and buttons here. Everyday i can change my phone in so many ways without having to flash. I change my mind alot and in the past 3 days, i haven't been bored.
orateam said:
Had the Viper installed for the last few days. all i can say is wow. Not missing sense 5 one bit. The amount of customizations on this rom are just sick. But more importantly, the ease of changing these via the venom tweaks menu buttons are amazing. Can change the status bar in nearly unlimited fashion, can change fonts, can change icons, etc... All of these things can be done of course on any rom, but it's all built in with menus and buttons here. Everyday i can change my phone in so many ways without having to flash. I change my mind alot and in the past 3 days, i haven't been bored.
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^^This. Precisely the reason I'm using Viper. I keep finding something new every time I go into venom tweaks
Has anyone noticed increased battery life with a custom ROM and/or kernel other than stock? I'll do my own testing when I get JTAG back, but if there's a general trend I'd be interested in hearing about it.
eakeller said:
Has anyone noticed increased battery life with a custom ROM and/or kernel other than stock? I'll do my own testing when I get JTAG back, but if there's a general trend I'd be interested in hearing about it.
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My battery was superb on stock rom. Lasted about 2 days of normal use.
My battery on sense 5 roms with Beastmode kernal was about 1.5 days of normal use.
I'd say Viper on it's stock kernal has been about 1.2 days of normal use. Although normal use has gone up since i have a fun menu to play with and reboot more often.
I'll be searching for the best kernal/rom combo along with battery saving tips without reducing performance over the next few days.
I personally like blink feed, but hate the Sense 5 app drawer. Everything else in Sense 5 is absolutely beautiful, and I'm generally an AOSP purist type. I'm currently running newtoroot's ROM at 320dpi with Nova launcher (because I hate the app drawer more than I like blink feed - though I wish I knew how to make it work with Nova).
Basically, Sense 5 > Viper >>>> Sense 4+
I prefer Sense compared to the custom Roms of Viper and CM10. I love sense 5
I am a fan of the very clean and very simple sense 5. I don't need all the customization that comes with Viper but it works well regardless. Just depends on what you want from your rom.

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