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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/15/3022907/at-t-htc-one-x-blocked-at-us-customs-infringing-apple
Well, another step closer to Apple's plans for world domination... This **** is seriously getting out of hand.
This is one of many reasons why I WON'T buy an iPhone. It's seriously getting to the point that I want to write a letter to the courts and voice my opinion.
Some extremist needs to flat out take out the top 500 people in apples company. Put an end to their company once and for all. THEY DIDN'T INVENT THE PHONE! They STOLE THE IDEAS FROM OTHER PEOPLE! In my eyes, thieves should get a bullet to the head and that is what apple is doing. This entire patent system is getting out of control!
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/why-software-patents-are-a-joke-literally/2039
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eXplicit815 said:
voice my opinion.
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They don't care about your opinion. You have to force them to care.
Just read that as well. I'm hoping, since I haven't seen it reported elsewhere, that it's BS. If its true, it's pretty unbelievable.
I hate apple, proud to say I own nothing of theirs and never will. Boycott apple, everyone stop buying their trash. They would eventually lose their foothold. This makes me sick to my stomach and I feel for those that preordered. It will be worth the wait. Remember this incident when your gazing at that new iproduct, don't do it!
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Just read that as well. I'm hoping, since I haven't seen it reported elsewhere, that it's BS. If its true, it's pretty unbelievable.
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http://allthingsd.com/20120515/ship...delayed-over-customs-concerns/?mod=googlenews
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Some extremist needs to flat out take out the top 500 people in apples company. Put an end to their company once and for all. THEY DIDN'T INVENT THE PHONE! They STOLE THE IDEAS FROM OTHER PEOPLE! In my eyes, thieves should get a bullet to the head and that is what apple is doing. This entire patent system is getting out of control!
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/why-software-patents-are-a-joke-literally/2039
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They don't care about your opinion. You have to force them to care.
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That's a good article. Reminds me of this one I read about the design of the Galaxy S III:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...irst-smartphone-designed-entirely-by-lawyers/
But really, I have a general hatred towards Apple just for things like this. They want to own a monopoly. If someone is chipping away at their market share even though they are still raking in billions of dollars, they will attack in any way possible instead of innovating and making their own products better. The only people getting hurt by this is us, the consumers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQM00e_8cUM
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I hate apple, proud to say I own nothing of theirs and never will. Boycott apple, everyone stop buying their trash. They would eventually lose their foothold. This makes me sick to my stomach and I feel for those that preordered. It will be worth the wait. Remember this incident when your gazing at that new iproduct, don't do it!
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Unfortunately, I own an iPad (as is obvious from my signature). At the time it came out there were (in my opinion, so please don't post "WHAT ABOUT THE XXXX??!!") no comparable Android tablets. Also unfortunately I can't justify buying another tablet based on my dislike (now bordering on, sigh, hate) of Apple. I only use my iPad for browsing, Kindle app, streaming video and music (that I didn't buy from iTunes) from my HTPC, and Netflix. So the sum total of money Apple made off me is from the hardware. And that won't be happening again anytime soon.
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Unfortunately, I own an iPad (as is obvious from my signature). At the time it came out there were (in my opinion, so please don't post "WHAT ABOUT THE XXXX??!!") no comparable Android tablets. Also unfortunately I can't justify buying another tablet based on my dislike (now bordering on, sigh, hate) of Apple. I only use my iPad for browsing, Kindle app, streaming video and music (that I didn't buy from iTunes) from my HTPC, and Netflix. So the sum total of money Apple made off me is from the hardware. And that won't be happening again anytime soon.
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I also unfortunately have the new iPad, but only because it was a gift for my college graduation/birthday. I mean I'm not going to turn down a great tablet, but I've bought maybe two apps and not planing on buying anymore, and one of them was a game I had already bought on Android. I only use it for web browsing really, I wish I could root it lol but I still hate Apple.
It's come to this...
Apple is who they wanted to destroy in '84. They are the big emotionless corporation enslaving the masses. Android came in and showed everyone the truth.
What a complete 180.
Reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8
Well, there goes any chance of finding the Evo LTE in stores on the release date.. Or for a while afterwards.
There was a comment on the article that someone made that they contacted Sprint about the delay on the Evo 4G LTE and they said that the delivery date will still be the 17th/18th. So it might have just been a particular shipment but it seems those who preordered will be getting it
I had no intention of buying the Evo LTE, but this really pisses me off.
Someone needs to address this broken patent system. And every single one if Apple's patents should be reviewed by someone who is not on Apple's payroll and is actually qualified for the task at hand.
This is beyond frustrating. It's time sure google to start defending their OS.
We need anon to just hack apple release an ios exploit that once used sells all stocks at apple for -1 dollars and spam there hq with troll faces
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F apple shiz.. always hated them
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There was a comment on the article that someone made that they contacted Sprint about the delay on the Evo 4G LTE and they said that the delivery date will still be the 17th/18th. So it might have just been a particular shipment but it seems those who preordered will be getting it
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I heard that they're already shipping too. It's because they would have already had the initial rollout within the country. It's after that shipment that we will see shortages.
Why innovate when you can litigate?
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Most of the iPhone and Mac users I know bought Apple products to be different from the masses and avoid greedy corporate conglomerates (ala Microsoft). Ironic how Apple has become the very beast that they sought to avoid.
On a side note, Apple's vague software patents should be nullified. Software patents in general are sketchy at best. Patent reform is greatly needed....technology innovation and choice will suffer greatly if something isn't done.
BTW, [email protected] Apple!
I think we should file a suit against apple for patent and judicial system abuse. Their weak patents and ridiculous lawsuits are costing us dearly. Their ridiculous patents are delaying our phones. They are new to this game and don't have right to be such a holes. Anyone here an attorney and willing to put these rich pricks in their place?
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I think we should file a suit against apple for patent and judicial system abuse. Their weak patents and ridiculous lawsuits are costing us dearly. Their ridiculous patents are delaying our phones. They are new to this game and don't have right to be such a holes. Anyone here an attorney and willing to put these rich pricks in their place?
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The American Way....
personally.. this isn't worth the $5.05 ill get in the mail from apple.. You'll never get as much as you hope and dream for..
Dude a slight delay in your brand spanking new phone isn't a cause of action. It's not like you don't already have one. Good luck demonstrating economic or even any loss at all.
Just calm down and wait a few more days.
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HTC and/or Sprint may have cause for a class action lawsuit because it may have hurt their profits, but we consumers don't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU
Was that in response to my post or the op lol
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Was that in response to my post or the op lol
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op, no real offense intended!
robber said:
op, no real offense intended!
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Ok lol no offense intended here either btw
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HTC and/or Sprint may have cause for a class action lawsuit because it may have hurt their profits, but we consumers don't.
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Two parties does not equal class action, but you are right, they may have a claim. However, Apple appears to be acting in good faith (ie. protecting their patents) so it would be hard to prove that they did this purely out of malice or a motivation to interfere.
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Two parties does not equal class action, but you are right, they may have a claim. However, Apple appears to be acting in good faith (ie. protecting their patents) so it would be hard to prove that they did this purely out of malice or a motivation to interfere.
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This is why corporate crime should be policed just as heavily as personal. There was clearly a crime committed here, and the U.S. Government was their weapon. How malice and messed up is that? News of this comes to a company on the day it's launch phones are in the mail? Apples pockets are deep, I guarantee they knew what they were doing. If it looks like s.... smells like s.... and tastes like s.... it probably is s....
And here sprint fronts the bill, when they shouldn't have to and buys everyone who waited a case.
Again - I don't think your seeing the legitimacy of Apple's claim. I'm not saying it was right, or that they are right. In the eyes of the law, they do have the right to make that claim and enforce it through legal action. Now the real issue comes down to whether or not Apple is hindering HTC's business purely to mess with them. I don't think that is the case - it would cost millions of dollars to enforce such a claim with absolutely no guarantee of success. Yes that is a drop in the bucket, but justifying that kind of legal expense has to occur on someone's budget.
It would be up to HTC's counter-claim (if successful) to prove more likely than not - whether Apple's action was purely obstructive. The law will always look at the evidence in the light most favorable to the person being sued (similar to the concept of jurisprudence), and in the case of a counter-claim that would be Apple.
HTC's claim of obstruction would have to be clearly egregious in order for it to be sustained in court (likewise, Apple's claim of infringement). For those of you who have a problem with this - pray that you never become a defendant in any court matter.
Guys, lets think clearly for a minute- please.
Apple believes that they have a patent that HTC has infringed upon. They take proper action and bring their claim in font of the International Trade Commission. The ITC then sides with them! How Apple can somehow be responsible for intentionally causing damage to a potential "class" for the above actions is beyond me.
Anyway, lets continue for the purpose of illustrating the absurdity of Apple being sued.
The ITC judge tells HTC that they need to remove the features from the phone that Apple holds patents for. HTC agrees. Then, subsequently HTC comes back and states that they don't feel they need to remove the core functionality, as they have found a way to code around the patent. Whether or not this had any impact on the delay itself, I don't know but it could have.
Even if somehow, the ultimate conspiracy theorist was able to prove Apple somehow had done all of this purposefully, Apples claims are still 100% valid.
I do believe that the guys in Cupertino got a huge rise out of this, I am sure they were laughing their asses off. However, from their perspective this is just a fortunate side effect of a completely legitimate claim that was being enforced by an International body and not Apple themselves.
All I know is because of this Apple lawsuit my youtube links open in a browser and not an app.
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ElephantKiller said:
Dude a slight delay in your brand spanking new phone isn't a cause of action. It's not like you don't already have one. Good luck demonstrating economic or even any loss at all.
Just calm down and wait a few more days.
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i sorry but i agree with ElephantKiller, Not to mention that they have already been given the (unjust) right to claim an absurd patent. All your doing is wasting time. apple doesn't care. They believe they are right to protect their product.
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All I know is because of this Apple lawsuit my youtube links open in a browser and not an app.
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Root Phone, rename or delete the file htclinkifydispatcher.apk in system/app then clear the browser app defaults with app manager. Reboot, enjoy the choices you will get to make.
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Root Phone, rename or delete the file htclinkifydispatcher.apk in system/app then clear the browser app defaults with app manager. Reboot, enjoy the choices you will get to make.
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Tried this on my Evo 3D (because the ICS ROM also ships with this) and unfortunately it doesn't work =( once I clear defaults and I try to tap on a YouTube link, nothing happens.
I suggest people try it on the Evo LTE, maybe it works there because I have Sense 3.6, perhaps and hopefully it works different on 4.0.
Haha, I share your pain, I too feel slighted by this recent fiasco. However, as stated already, there is no "class action" suit to be had. So what are we left to do, what can we the mere lowely consumers do? Don't buy Apple. Simple.
Maybe after you and I recieve our phones, we "show off" our phones to those we know that own an iPhone. Perhaps we do our best to promote the Android platform. Explain the inherent superiority of open source. Demonstrate the overwhelming edge we have in capabilities, & customization abilities.
The sad fact is, Apple has the lions share of the market, extremely deep pockets, and apparently the ear of some influential higher-ups. Not to mention the mindless fan boy, status symbol toting majority of iPhone users that will buy an iPhone regardless of what may come along, just because it's an iPhone.
But take heart my Android loving friends. How long has it been since Apple has had a revolutionary idea they brought to the table? When did their business strategy go from marketing to desperate/frivolous patent infringement claims? How far behind the curve are they?
Go take your shiny new phone and compare it to a new IP4S, what do you notice? Sad isn't it? It's a matter of time. Open source platform IS the future. Apples closed source, "we own that idea" mentality WILL be it's downfall. Might take five years, could be twenty, mark my words, Apple is headed for decline, and they know it.
Hahaha, well I feel better now. Back to my beer and the off topic lounge. -jamie
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http://m.engadget.com/default/class...c-with-third-itc-dispute/&icid=eng_latest_art
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I'm amaze the haven't say anything about s voice on the galaxy 3 devices
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Apple and samsung are in bed together. If it weren't for samsung, crapple wouldn't be where it is today
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Tim Cook... first he murders Steve Jobs and now he's going after HTC!!
I got my EVO 4G LTE yesterday and I can see why Apple is worried.
Most apple fans I talk to say that Iphones feel more responsive and have better battery life. This phone feels very responsive and I've only charged my phone one time in the past 22 hours. If Apple doesn't step up and actually improve their product they will suffer the same fate as RIM.
Has it been announced what this third lawsuit is claiming?
What they are claiming is listed in the link below.
I also actually listed the 27 HTC devices in the complaint here.
http://www.androrev.com/2012/06/06/...dditional-complaint-against-htc-with-the-fcc/
It appears HTC has countered with a complaint of their own and we are back in the ring for another 12 rounds. This is insanity looks like the ATT One X date might be in Jeopardy.
I wish HP had kept Palm, long enough to troll Apple to its knees.
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Tim Cook... first he murders Steve Jobs and now he's going after HTC!!
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LOL!
Droiddinho said:
I got my EVO 4G LTE yesterday and I can see why Apple is worried.
Most apple fans I talk to say that Iphones feel more responsive and have better battery life. This phone feels very responsive and I've only charged my phone one time in the past 22 hours. If Apple doesn't step up and actually improve their product they will suffer the same fate as RIM.
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement. Ever hear of people queuing up to buy the latest Blackberry? nope, didn't think so. Apple isn't going anywhere regardless. They could release the iPhone 5 with just an LTE radio added and people will mindlessly line up to get it along with all their friends.
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I got my EVO 4G LTE yesterday and I can see why Apple is worried.
Most apple fans I talk to say that Iphones feel more responsive and have better battery life. This phone feels very responsive and I've only charged my phone one time in the past 22 hours. If Apple doesn't step up and actually improve their product they will suffer the same fate as RIM.
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I agree. They only reason why this has gotten out of hand is because Android has began to take the market over Apple. And the only way Apple knows how to fight back is to take out the competition, starting with the biggest fish first (HTC). Instead of innovating (which they're oh-so-good at), they'd rather keep making what they have and take out competition.
My girl friend saw my new phone and instantly fell in love with it, I told her she should replace her iPhone with an EVO or One X (she is on ATT). She is thinking about it
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My girl friend saw my new phone and instantly fell in love with it, I told her she should replace her iPhone with an EVO or One X (she is on ATT). She is thinking about it
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She would be wise to do so.
The One X and EVO LTE are, IMO, the first phones to surpass the iPhone in EVERY aspect. Every aspect. I can see why they're worried.
Can we tap apple out of [email protected]#
Sounds like they're trying to fight the same fight from a different angle this time.
What I think of apple...
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gpz1100 said:
Can we tap apple out of [email protected]#
Sounds like they're trying to fight the same fight from a different angle this time.
What I think of apple...
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I've always predicted, even when the first iPhone came out, that at some point it'll fall. They have no strategy. All they do is patent ideas that were made by other companies that are used in mainstream phones. I've said it before, Apple is to the ITC as LeBron James is to the officials in the NBA.
Sadly, Apple has the money to keep throwing bogus lawsuits out......and see which ones will stick. All the patents claims are going to hit many device manufacturers this year, will waste a lot of money, and slow down some really great devices.
Apple doesn't want the competition.....
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement. Ever hear of people queuing up to buy the latest Blackberry? nope, didn't think so. Apple isn't going anywhere regardless. They could release the iPhone 5 with just an LTE radio added and people will mindlessly line up to get it along with all their friends.
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Oh how I wish they would go somewhere!! iSuck, but I pretend like I'm better than everyone else!
Apple has been lagging behind in the phone development for quite some time. Even when the 4 was released, there were Android phones with features way ahead of it. The fact of the matter is Apple is now the one playing catch-up and lots of their customers are looking for a new, more customizable experience. So if you can't beat em, sue the pants off of them.. and that's what Apple's tactic is currently.
As of right now, Android has, and will be top dog. And I have a big suspicion that the iPhone 5 will be dead in the water unless Apple has a couple tricks up their sleeve. One mainly being iOS itself. It NEEDS to evolve in order to stay competitive. With more and more of the current generation becoming increasingly tech savvy, Apple's reliance on "it just works" will become far less effective.
None the less, in the end, it hurts consumers and makes Apple look like a huge douche canoe. And I'm all for letting that huge douche canoe drop right off a huge waterfall.
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That's a pretty ridiculous statement. Ever hear of people queuing up to buy the latest Blackberry? nope, didn't think so. Apple isn't going anywhere regardless. They could release the iPhone 5 with just an LTE radio added and people will mindlessly line up to get it along with all their friends.
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Or they could simply add almost nothing but 2 year old technology to it and people would come out in droves... oh wait... they already did that with the 4S.
Anyone else notice that some of the phones in the claim are pretty old? If they were going to have this lawsuit they should have done it long ago... It seems mighty suspicious of Apple.
http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-samsung-respond-september-20th-injunction-hearing/
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These threads should be banned, as they generate little to no actual discussion.
Sure, it sucks for Samsung. But a lot of what Apple went after them for at least made a little sense. Samsung blatantly copied Apple in many situations. And even if there were examples of prior technology that fit the case, Apple was able to show that Samsung intentionally copied Apple's work instead of basing work off of said prior technology.
Before we start a circlejerk of people condemning Apple and all of its employees to hell, please realize that this was a legitimate legal decision and the people who made this decision put a lot of thought into it. I'm not happy that Samsung lost either, but I also believe that they lost for a reason.
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These threads should be banned, as they generate little to no actual discussion.
Sure, it sucks for Samsung. But a lot of what Apple went after them for at least made a little sense. Samsung blatantly copied Apple in many situations. And even if there were examples of prior technology that fit the case, Apple was able to show that Samsung intentionally copied Apple's work instead of basing work off of said prior technology.
Before we start a circlejerk of people condemning Apple and all of its employees to hell, please realize that this was a legitimate legal decision and the people who made this decision put a lot of thought into it. I'm not happy that Samsung lost either, but I also believe that they lost for a reason.
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i agree with sorax64....part of Samsung success with galaxy s versions is that Samsung copied Apple's work...
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This is why i only buy HTC. If i wanted an iphone clone i would buy Samsung.
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This is why i only buy HTC. If i wanted an iphone clone i would buy Samsung.
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eric00716!!!! i agree with you bro
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This major win with a major competitor will only give birth to a whole new round of suits and new strategy that will probably lead to us being phucked over. The realization of apple being a monopoly is becoming ever more true. You think the bs we had to put up with when our EVOs were held in customs was crap, just wait. I see bad things heading our way. I know Samsung copied apple. We all said that awhile ago. But jeez, if the courts will agree with apple that a rectangle with rounded corners is copying, then what does that say for us?
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Edit: Disregard, I don't want to continue this conversation.
If I was running apples legal department I would Sue Samsung also they are tearing there sales apart all apple needs to do to dominate the market again is make more choices for there phone bigger screens easy hacking and better ui improvements come on apple dust off those thinking caps and make a new product instead of pumping out the same phone every year.
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Maybe apple deserved this one...but This sets precedent.for apple to go ape**** on everyone ..and they will...they just acquired another billion dollars ..enough to have a full time kill android legal team for 200 years
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Maybe apple deserved this one...but This sets precedent.for apple to go ape**** on everyone ..and they will...they just acquired another billion dollars ..enough to have a full time kill android legal team for 200 years
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Ha.. A billion dollars. Should be able to pay their lawyers with that.
It's not like Apple is going to be able to go willy nilly on other OEMs now. They don't have the resources for that, and if they keep it up, Google will eventually step in.
Exactly that's what I'm saying...apple isnt gonna stop at this..google is gonna need to get involved..which it looks like they did with the Motorola suit..everyone knows moto is an ip bank..
I wonder what type of phones the judge and members of the jury use?
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As much as I love Android, I kind of have to agree that some of the devices that Samsung were making did look like iFails. Hell, I think Touchwiz does. I will say though, that Apple suing anyone for stealing ideas when they themselves have done so repeatedly in the past is just bs.
Here's the break down of what was infringed. Placement of home button? Thin frame with rounded corners? Serious!? I'm no Samsung fan, but for the sake of our future of android devices I was rooting for Sammy.
http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/25/br...oom-victory-over-samsung/?icid=eng_latest_art
Hahaha its already begun:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30692579
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Like I.said..that's the scary part..they went to court with these bs patents and they won..now every phone that has those traits can be targeted..this is just the beggning im afraid..esp when its prob difficult to find a jury that isn't a iPhone or android user ..and its the patent that's the issue..once granted the court will uphold their decision..that's where reform needs to begin
I wouldn't worry. This will probably be overturned. A lot of mistakes by the jury.
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I can see it now. 10 minutes after the court case is over. The judge and jury walk back to their cars talking on their IPhones... Lol
WUESTSIDER X!
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This thread has turned out better than one from yesterday started by the "law school" guy
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This thread has turned out better than one from yesterday started by the "law school" guy
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That's like saying the dump you took today didn't smell as bad as the one you took yesterday.
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That's like saying the dump you took today didn't smell as bad as the one you took yesterday.
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Funny since a lot of people around here do believe that their chit don't stink.... :beer:
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topic says it all
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=11460
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They're also expected to decline over the next couple of years.
I hear that Troll company is also looking to ban some devices.
Gotta love karma.
I bet if a ban does happen, the ITC will pull its head out of its as$ and push for reform.
More than my dislike for Apple's litigation tactics, I hate the flawed international system when it comes to technology, software especially.
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They're also expected to decline over the next couple of years.
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Haven't people been saying that for years though?
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Haven't people been saying that for years though?
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Well, it is happening. Look at their stock. They lost a lot. High point was around $700/share. Now they are in a steady decline and current share is 558. Also, it wiped out a lot of market cap. It was around $620 billion, now it's $524 billion. They are still most valuable company, but I am sure things will continue to decline for Apple.
Signs are there. iPad marketshare dropping vs Android tablets. They screamed off the top of their lungs that there will never be iPad mini, but they had to follow suit because Nexus 7, Kindle Fire, were taking a lot of marketshare. Google Play caught up to App Store in quantity of apps. iPhone 5 release only gave them 2-3% of marketshare, and mostly at expense of RIM/Microsoft.
Apple is no longer innovating. They are following others. Good read here: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/10/apple-is-a-follower/. Apple Maps, the lackluster iOS 6, falling share price. I think Apple ran out of steam.
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Well, it is happening. Look at their stock. They lost a lot. High point was around $700/share. Now they are in a steady decline and current share is 558. Also, it wiped out a lot of market cap. It was around $620 billion, now it's $524 billion. They are still most valuable company, but I am sure things will continue to decline for Apple.
Signs are there. iPad marketshare dropping vs Android tablets. They screamed off the top of their lungs that there will never be iPad mini, but they had to follow suit because Nexus 7, Kindle Fire, were taking a lot of marketshare. Google Play caught up to App Store in quantity of apps. iPhone 5 release only gave them 2-3% of marketshare, and mostly at expense of RIM/Microsoft.
Apple is no longer innovating. They are following others. Good read here: http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/10/apple-is-a-follower/. Apple Maps, the lackluster iOS 6, falling share price. I think Apple ran out of steam.
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This is pretty much what's happening right now. Not to mention, with the iOS Maps problems, and the problems with the iPhone5 coming with scratches and what not, they're just getting sloppy. Not to mention, just to try and keep up with everyone, they finally made the screen larger, but people are getting bored with it. iOS is still the same thing it's always been. People want NEW things.
And there's more. Apparently SIII outsold iPhone 4S last quarter. Granted, some people may have been waiting for iPhone 5, but numbers are numbers.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/08/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-dethrones-iphone-4s/
Also Apple loose a patent in mexico vs the ifone
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This is pretty much what's happening right now. Not to mention, with the iOS Maps problems, and the problems with the iPhone5 coming with scratches and what not, they're just getting sloppy. Not to mention, just to try and keep up with everyone, they finally made the screen larger, but people are getting bored with it. iOS is still the same thing it's always been. People want NEW things.
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That is the reason I finally switched to Android in August. I would never go back to iOS. I should have never bought Apple.
Ozziwald said:
That is the reason I finally switched to Android in August. I would never go back to iOS. I should have never bought Apple.
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I love success stories like this.
apple is just seeing a slow in their astronimical growth. i think this is a good thing. i believe some of these set backs will force apple to going back to innovating instead of litigating.
Android will always be more innovative with strong competition.
i agree with fernando... specially with the last part
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Ozziwald said:
That is the reason I finally switched to Android in August. I would never go back to iOS. I should have never bought Apple.
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This warms my heart. Welcome aboard. :thumbup:
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Ozziwald said:
That is the reason I finally switched to Android in August. I would never go back to iOS. I should have never bought Apple.
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(real customer, not a paid actor)
lol
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Apple is ****ing mother****ers company
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My buddy at work is a huge apple fan. He has owned all of the Iphones and was there for the release of the Iphone5. He showed me his iphone5 and I was like wow, that looks exactly like your previous iphone... How boring.
I went from an OG evo to the ltevo and there is a world of difference between the two, but yet they are still evo's.
billypilgrim said:
My buddy at work is a huge apple fan. He has owned all of the Iphones and was there for the release of the Iphone5. He showed me his iphone5 and I was like wow, that looks exactly like your previous iphone... How boring.
I went from an OG evo to the ltevo and there is a world of difference between the two, but yet they are still evo's.
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lol... yeah iphone fans get excited for small changes on the phone...
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luisrod03 said:
lol... yeah iphone fans get excited for small changes on the phone...
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I don't know, connector that turns all your expensive speaker docks and clock radios into junk overnight, and usb cable with a chip in it to (atempt, already failed) to make it impossible for anyone else to make even a stupid charge cable, turning a commodity item into a special and expensive accessory. Those are pretty big changes.
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KEYofR said:
I don't know, connector that turns all your expensive speaker docks and clock radios into junk overnight, and usb cable with a chip in it to (atempt, already failed) to make it impossible for anyone else to make even a stupid charge cable, turning a commodity item into a special and expensive accessory. Those are pretty big changes.
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those things you're talking about are optional features you can add to the phone.... the changes I'm talking about are physically with the phone...
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