hi,
what kind of communication exists between tablet and dock when they are separate?
is it a kind of wifi one or bluetooth?
my goal is to use the dock on a table with usb device pluged in and use the tablet (with appropriate software) to control the usb device.
do you think it's possible?
best regards,
nicolas
sl1200mk2 said:
hi,
what kind of communication exists between tablet and dock when they are separate?
is it a kind of wifi one or bluetooth?
my goal is to use the dock on a table with usb device pluged in and use the tablet (with appropriate software) to control the usb device.
do you think it's possible?
best regards,
nicolas
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No. The dock is "wired", and has no wireless capability.
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Dave
Dave,
thank you for your answers even if it's not the one i would like to read...
Regards
sl1200mk2 said:
hi,
what kind of communication exists between tablet and dock when they are separate?
is it a kind of wifi one or bluetooth?
my goal is to use the dock on a table with usb device pluged in and use the tablet (with appropriate software) to control the usb device.
do you think it's possible?
best regards,
nicolas
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first off, this belongs in the Q/A section.
Second off, you weren't quite specific with your question, which is why you got a terrible answer that didn't answer your question lol.
If you're thinking like a usb mouse or usb hard drive, then yes. Game controller will also work. Not sure what else youw ould want, but as long as your tablet is docked, you can use the USB port on the dock.
first off, this belongs in the Q/A section.
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you're right, sorry about that
as long as your tablet is docked, you can use the USB port on the dock.
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this is exactly what i've understood, and exactly what is a shame for my purpose.
i'm a light designer for theater and my goal was to use my usb widget (to output lighting protocol) plugged on the dock and move in the theater with the tablet.
for what i understand, it's not possible with the prime...
Regards,
Nicolas
I wonder if remote keyboard function could be enabled, its got a battery and its own firmware, i wonder if a dev can hack functionality for it into the docks firmware in the future.
... For now, you would need a netbook/laptop/pc with the USB device plugged in, then use VNC or splashtop from tablet to chosen device.
I wonder if remote keyboard function could be enabled, its got a battery and its own firmware, i wonder if a dev can hack functionality for it into the docks firmware in the future.
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Where to ask?
but it would be definitely a great option!
Danny-B- said:
I wonder if remote keyboard function could be enabled, its got a battery and its own firmware, i wonder if a dev can hack functionality for it into the docks firmware in the future.
... For now, you would need a netbook/laptop/pc with the USB device plugged in, then use VNC or splashtop from tablet to chosen device.
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sl1200mk2 said:
Where to ask?
but it would be definitely a great option!
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Yea but it doesn't have any radios to communicate with the Prime
You could create some kind of "remote" with a long self-made cable between the Prime and the dock
sl1200mk2 said:
Where to ask?
but it would be definitely a great option!
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It probs wont be an option untill the bootloader is unlocked (soon were informed ??).
I'm not even sure itll be possible but i'd be happy to see the option there.
Any devs out there willing to offer any thoughts on if its possible?
How does the dock firmware work? is it possible for the dock to detect and run USB devices remotely?
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Diamondback said:
Yea but it doesn't have any radios to communicate with the Prime
You could create some kind of "remote" with a long self-made cable between the Prime and the dock
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Couldnt you just plug in a WiFi/bluetooth adapter ?
Couldnt you just plug in a WiFi/bluetooth adapter ?
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this adapter would use the only usb port available...
sl1200mk2 said:
this adapter would use the only usb port available...
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Just use a USB hub then youll have more than enough USB ports
Just use a USB hub then youll have more than enough USB ports
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right.
and if dev's are aware about hacking dock's firmware, i'll be better to allow network communication than bluetooth (at least in my case)
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Second off, you weren't quite specific with your question, which is why you got a terrible answer that didn't answer your question lol.
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Terrible answer? At least i answered the question he asked! Unlike you, below.
If you're thinking like a usb mouse or usb hard drive, then yes. Game controller will also work. Not sure what else youw ould want, but as long as your tablet is docked, you can use the USB port on the dock.
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The OP asked how it would work when the tablet and dock were seperated! So how does this help?
foxmeister said:
Terrible answer? At least i answered the question he asked! Unlike you, below.
The OP asked how it would work when the tablet and dock were seperated! So how does this help?
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Hahahah oops I didn't mean to offend you! I just meant a vague answer to a vague question in the OP. Sorry bud!!
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sl1200mk2 said:
i'm a light designer for theater and my goal was to use my usb widget (to output lighting protocol) plugged on the dock and move in the theater with the tablet.
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It's a bit cumbersome but what you could do is leave your usb widget plugged into a laptop/pc on the desk, and then use Splashtop to remote control that from the tablet. Of course this would require there to be a wifi network available.....
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It's a bit cumbersome but what you could do is leave your usb widget plugged into a laptop/pc on the desk, and then use Splashtop to remote control that from the tablet. Of course this would require there to be a wifi network available.....
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that's also a solution of course but i need to bring either the laptop and the tablet on tour.
for now, i've made an app on the sgs2 to remotly send data to the laptop, and that's the lighter solution.
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Of course, you could always trade in your Prime for an original Transformer TF101 which has a usb port on the tablet. But then again, does your dongle work with Android?
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Of course, you could always trade in your Prime for an original Transformer TF101 which has a usb port on the tablet. But then again, does your dongle work with Android?
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The TF101 didn't have a USB port on the tablet itself.
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Dave
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Has anyone tried to use one. Heard the Viewsonic G Tablet can do some. Needing a solution to cable it. Thanks.
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I guess in theory, one of the ones mentioned in this article might work.
In one of my rooms the wifi coverage is very low - so it is tempting to try to get one of them to test.
tried a sabrent one, no luck
dude2k5 said:
tried a sabrent one, no luck
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Need one that is supported by linux or drivers will for sure be the doom. The question is only wht support has actually been included by Asus.
This thread looked interesting to me, thanks OP.
I have tested some of these before in another project. I found differences in even what was supposed to be the same models, weird stuff. I did find a few models that worked on LINUX, but I will have to dig around to find them.
A good test might be to find a model that quasi *auto detects* and operates on a specific version of LINUX, as a prerequisite, and then test on the dock.
The amount of OS/configuration modifications to *auto detect* should me minimal or none.
Hmm, youll probably need to compile the drivers as modules and manually insert them before it might work. But its worth a shot to just try one first
I should have my hands on the Apple adapter on Tuesday.
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HTCinToronto said:
Has anyone tried to use one. Heard the Viewsonic G Tablet can do some. Needing a solution to cable it. Thanks.
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i got mine working, just follow the instructions from the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14747728
It's working! I connected my n900 via usb and set it to network mode.
did netcfg usb1 dhcp and got the address from dhcp.
I wonder why they didn't include ifconfig in android :S
Also, I suspect you can use usb0 (client mode port) to connect to your pc.
Confirm: Connect to LAN using USB to RJ45 on Asus Transformer?
Hi,
I just want to confirm with the previous post that you were able to connect to the internet via LAN using a USB to RJ-45 purchased from amazon. (Search for "USB 2.0 to RJ-45 Ethernet Adapter" on amazon.) Did you connect using the USB port on the dock or on the tablet itself? Thanks!
bambooman said:
Hi,
I just want to confirm with the previous post that you were able to connect to the internet via LAN using a USB to RJ-45 purchased from amazon. (Search for "USB 2.0 to RJ-45 Ethernet Adapter" on amazon.) Did you connect using the USB port on the dock or on the tablet itself? Thanks!
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Sorry second part of the first sentence confuses me a little. Are you referring to me? I connected to my phone that has usb network mode. And I attached it to a usb port on the dock.
So I picked up the Apple USB-to-ethernet adapter (MC704ZM/A), plugged it in and no response from my Transformer. Did you guys do anything special to get yours working?
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I can confirm that I tried a USB to ethernet adapter (chip seems to be ASIX ax88x72A) and it did not work on my TF. The adapter came with a driver CD and it did include drivers for android. I'm attaching them here in the hope that someone who knows what to do with these files can help.
The driver files can also be found on Asix's website. Google "asix ax88x72A android". Sorry, this board doesn't allow new members to post external links.
I really hope Google or Asus can fix this missing rather fundamental functionality in a future SW update. I don't want to carry a router around and a lot of hotels only have wired internet!
Found Android Drivers
mesquita1 said:
I can confirm that I tried a USB to ethernet adapter (chip seems to be ASIX ax88x72A) and it did not work on my TF. The adapter came with a driver CD and it did include drivers for android. I'm attaching them here in the hope that someone who knows what to do with these files can help.
The driver files can also be found on Asix's website. Google "asix ax88x72A android". Sorry, this board doesn't allow new members to post external links.
I really hope Google or Asus can fix this missing rather fundamental functionality in a future SW update. I don't want to carry a router around and a lot of hotels only have wired internet!
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Here are some additional drivers from the manufacturer. They clam it includes Android 4.x.x Good luck
http://www.asix.com.tw/FrootAttach/driver/AX88772C_772B_772A_760_772_178_LINUX_Driver_v4.6.0_Source.tar.bz2
I just saw this on Reddit; might be old news to some, but this is the first I've heard about it. Apparently there is a $1.38 (on Amazon.com) cable that allows you to connect various USB devices, and if the device supports USB OTG, you can run flash or powered hard (not portable) drives, keyboards, mice, or even a hub to use more than one. If the device doesn't, it can be added with root, or included in a ROM. I'm not a developer. I'm not even a programmer, so I don't have the first idea on how this could be done. But a Bluetooth keyboard is around $80, and this will allow a $10 keyboard to be used, or a $10 mouse, for a cost of about $12 for one, $22 for both, plus whatever a hub goes for. So having USB OTG could save some folks a lot of money. Plus if they want to use a USB controller for gaming, they can save the cost of a PS3 controller entirely (about $40).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240082
Please use the search feature. This is not a development topic because support already exists. I detail everything necessary for USB OTG on the Photon in the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28552795&postcount=2
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There is a report button. The message goes directly to the Moderator. I would like if someone else would do it too and not only me.
This one is reported already.
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There is a report button. The message goes directly to the Moderator. I would like if someone else would do it too and not only me.
This one is reported already.
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Done.
peetr_ said:
There is a report button. The message goes directly to the Moderator. I would like if someone else would do it too and not only me.
This one is reported already.
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Done.
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Also reported...
Do not spam him. One is enough.
Thanks for the information. Did not know the topic was off limits - noted for future reference. Cheers!
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Thanks for the information. Did not know the topic was off limits - noted for future reference. Cheers!
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After reading my response and the subsequent responses, I realize that it probably came off flame-ish. My apologies. It wasn't so much the topic as it was posted in the dev forum. They frown on that, unfortunately.
I am open to questions if you have any regarding USB OTG. I had to mess around with various USB configurations until I found the right connections. When it works, it just works. But figuring it out from a Youtube video in another language made me want to write a guide. I hope it helps.
Good luck!
Well, I have a USB OTG cable coming at some point in the next week. I only paid 90¢ for it on Amazon, so it's not a huge loss if it doesn't work. I will consult your guide when I get it, if it doesn't just work. Obviously I'm gonna hook it up and try it as soon as I get the package.
I have two devices intended for it -- a 10" mini keyboard I got on Newegg for $15 (shipped). If I can't get this to work at all (and I'm sure I will be able to), I can use the keyboard for our bedroom computer, which has a half-broken, dirty, unwieldy "ergonomic" keyboard hooked up to it (and toss that one). Also a wired Xbox 360 controller, for mobile gaming.
Dark Reality said:
Well, I have a USB OTG cable coming at some point in the next week. I only paid 90¢ for it on Amazon, so it's not a huge loss if it doesn't work. I will consult your guide when I get it, if it doesn't just work. Obviously I'm gonna hook it up and try it as soon as I get the package.
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The Chainfire program should be able to step you through the diagnostics of it. The biggest trick is getting enough power supplied to the phone plus the devices.
Dark Reality said:
I have two devices intended for it -- a 10" mini keyboard I got on Newegg for $15 (shipped). If I can't get this to work at all (and I'm sure I will be able to), I can use the keyboard for our bedroom computer, which has a half-broken, dirty, unwieldy "ergonomic" keyboard hooked up to it (and toss that one). Also a wired Xbox 360 controller, for mobile gaming.
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Any device that fully implements the standard USB HID protocol should just plug and play. A wired XBOX 360 controller should work, as well as the keyboard... as long as they don't require proprietary software/drivers to operate properly.
For my gaming solution, I went with the Sixaxis drivers for pairing with a PS3 controller through Bluetooth. That was pretty neat and it works. As far as keyboards, I have a wireless Logitech K400 with a touchpad which is fully functional. Using the one USB dongle which uses Logitech's 'Unifying' technology, I also have a Logitech M570 trackball mouse. So essentially, I carry a pocket-sized computer with me everywhere I go. Who needs a laptop?
Self-Powered USB Hubs work great with this setup, you can have multiple devices and Android (being based on Linux) will handle it as long as the kernel has the drivers built in. I've been having trouble trying to get external storage to work under CM7, but I also haven't been working to figure that out.
zansatsu said:
The Chainfire program should be able to step you through the diagnostics of it. The biggest trick is getting enough power supplied to the phone plus the devices.
Any device that fully implements the standard USB HID protocol should just plug and play. A wired XBOX 360 controller should work, as well as the keyboard... as long as they don't require proprietary software/drivers to operate properly.
For my gaming solution, I went with the Sixaxis drivers for pairing with a PS3 controller through Bluetooth. That was pretty neat and it works. As far as keyboards, I have a wireless Logitech K400 with a touchpad which is fully functional. Using the one USB dongle which uses Logitech's 'Unifying' technology, I also have a Logitech M570 trackball mouse. So essentially, I carry a pocket-sized computer with me everywhere I go. Who needs a laptop?
Self-Powered USB Hubs work great with this setup, you can have multiple devices and Android (being based on Linux) will handle it as long as the kernel has the drivers built in. I've been having trouble trying to get external storage to work under CM7, but I also haven't been working to figure that out.
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Thanks
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Update: version v.2
Instruction here.
What app are you using to read the memory card you plugged in?
vj4 said:
What app are you using to read the memory card you plugged in?
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Nexus Media Importer.
Thanks OP Good info
Update: version v.2
This one`s pretty small and practical, could you mod this to make it even smaller?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Right-An...pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27ccd180ac&_uhb=1
ryanjsoo said:
This one`s pretty small and practical, could you mod this to make it even smaller?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Right-An...pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27ccd180ac&_uhb=1
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I had that ideal in v.2, same design as the one in the link but even smaller because you stripped all the blastic and mount the microUSB on a USB female. See the link, scroll down for v.2.
I know this is possible in some Sony devices, but do you guys know if there is a way to connect the phone to a hard/flash -drive and have it charge at the same time?
vicious_killa24 said:
I know this is possible in some Sony devices, but do you guys know if there is a way to connect the phone to a hard/flash -drive and have it charge at the same time?
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I was making one with a power core link to this device but accidentally blew circuit twice on MicroSD to USB. ^^; The idea was using this device USB end to a PS3 controller to play games. Anyways, what phone are you planning on to do this? You might want to check with that phones' ROM devs and ask around in that phone threads, they know about it power configurations.
Capt.PP said:
I was making one with a power core link to this device but accidentally blew circuit twice on MicroSD to USB. ^^; The idea was using this device USB end to a PS3 controller to play games. Anyways, what phone are you planning on to do this? You might want to check with that phones' ROM devs and ask around in that phone threads, they know about it power configurations.
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Aaa thank you. That's actually what I wanted it for as well, well that and to watch movies from a flash drive. My devices are the HTC One X+ and Nexus 7.
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Hello,
I bought an external keyboard that connects via the mini usb port. It didn't work, but found a suggestion:
When I first connected my adapter that came with my tablet to the keyboard adapter I was very disappointed that nothing happened. I tried several different browser pages, but nothing happened. I read reviews on here and noticed on about that someone mentioned they changed their USB settings and their keyboard finally started working. So, I immediately went to my Settings, Advanced Settings, and then USB BUS MODE and changed it from DEVICE mode to HOST mode and VOILA - the keyboard immediately started functioning
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I tried to find where to change the usb settings to host but couldn't find the area. Is there anywhere I can find this? I am using the AOPK Rom. Thanks for any help!
OTG not in any of the Nook Tablet yet
OTG is not implemented yet on the stock nor current cm10 roms based on what I have asked in this forum for Nook Tablet. I know you can do this with the new nooks that have monochrome display. May I ask where did you read this article?
bulsatar said:
Hello,
I bought an external keyboard that connects via the mini usb port. It didn't work, but found a suggestion:
I tried to find where to change the usb settings to host but couldn't find the area. Is there anywhere I can find this? I am using the AOPK Rom. Thanks for any help!
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yep, it was in a review of the product on amazon. here is a link to the product:look at couple reviews down. I am happy to wait just want to make sure that I will be able to use it soon
bulsatar said:
yep, it was in a review of the product on amazon. here is a link to the product:look at couple reviews down. I am happy to wait just want to make sure that I will be able to use it soon
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Were you reading the review for the Nook Color with working usb otg? It does work for that tablet, not the NT though.
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I wasn't looking specifically for how to get it working on the tablet, just looking in general for how to do it in android. Hopefully they implement the otg soon
I just downloaded the new cm10 (snappy and no more reboot/sdcard lost errors!!) but there wasn't anything about the type of usb connection in that one either...
Am I not going to be able to use this keyboard? Will I have to break down and buy a price blue tooth one????
bulsatar said:
I just downloaded the new cm10 (snappy and no more reboot/sdcard lost errors!!) but there wasn't anything about the type of usb connection in that one either...
Am I not going to be able to use this keyboard? Will I have to break down and buy a price blue tooth one????
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At this time the NT does not have usb otg on any ROM, it may in the future, but if and when is not known at this time. The NT will never have bluetooth, Never. It has been well documented why, do a search and read. So a BT keyboard will never work. Is it really that hard to type with your thumbs?
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It isn't really a matter of difficulty, it is a matter of duration. I didn't want a full laptop and I like the android os so wanted to try a tablet with a keyboard for my mobile computing needs. I am do a good amount of typing (chapters for novels and such) and prefer a keyboard. I was using my phone before and it was a lot slower than what I can do with a keyboard and got tiring after an hour or so. It isn't detrimental that I can't use a keyboard, just desired.
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It isn't really a matter of difficulty, it is a matter of duration. I didn't want a full laptop and I like the android os so wanted to try a tablet with a keyboard for my mobile computing needs. I am do a good amount of typing (chapters for novels and such) and prefer a keyboard. I was using my phone before and it was a lot slower than what I can do with a keyboard and got tiring after an hour or so. It isn't detrimental that I can't use a keyboard, just desired.
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I bought a Toshiba Thrive 32gb off craigslist for $200. I am now running CM10. I bought it for those exact reasons. It has full sized usb, full sized hdmi, micro usb, full sized sd card expandable to 128 gb, bluetooth capable, gps, 10.1" screen. I use a mouse through usb, bluetooth keyboard, and I hook it up to my TV or
computer monitor and is performs really well as a portable computer with little cost involved.
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lol, after spending 150 on the tablet I think that I am going to skip buying another, however I have started looking at other virtual keyboard options and will be trying out a few to see if they can fill the gap until/if they activate the usb otg. Thanks for the info and I will reply if I find a keyboard that I like enough to be useable as a touch typer!!
Ok so, all I really do is look on FB and look on ebay, which my phone can do perfectly, obviously. I have a MHL adapter to connect it to my TV which works perfect also, but my question is which keyboard and mouse would pair with the devices bluetooth so I can use the MHL adapter and the keyboard and mouse to use it as a mini desktop computer or a "Smart TV".
Please not to expensive and not cheap and tacky, thank you very much.
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Ok so, all I really do is look on FB and look on ebay, which my phone can do perfectly, obviously. I have a MHL adapter to connect it to my TV which works perfect also, but my question is which keyboard and mouse would pair with the devices bluetooth so I can use the MHL adapter and the keyboard and mouse to use it as a mini desktop computer or a "Smart TV".
Please not to expensive and not cheap and tacky, thank you very much.
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Why don't you use OTG cable to connect mouse/keyboard to your SGS3 it will cost u less and you can use any usb keyboard or mouse, why do you want to spend lots of money buying a new keyboard and mouse.. one thing is you will have limitation to use only one device at a time..
Because I can't use my mhl adapter then. Currently doing that now but want the option to display on TV and use KB and mouse.
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There are guides on the internet to make an OTG / MHL adaptor if you're that way inclined
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Really? Did look ages ago but can't find a thing. Could you point me in the right direction please
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Gah, I cant find it now. I know someone posted a link to a homemade one in a thread I was in a while back but search isnt finding it
Thanks anyways mate. Just ordered one from eBay supports USB mircosd SD card 1080p HDMI and micro USB to help keep charge. cost me. £9.99 quiet happy if it works haha
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=130981021162
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Thanks anyways mate. Just ordered one from eBay supports USB mircosd SD card 1080p HDMI and micro USB to help keep charge. cost me. £9.99 quiet happy if it works haha
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=130981021162
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Cool, please feed back when you know
certainly will.
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I'm thinking of getting this
http://goo.gl/qMBfCt
so I dont need to sit to close to the T.V
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I'm thinking of getting this
http://goo.gl/qMBfCt
so I dont need to sit to close to the T.V
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What do you plan on doing with your phone connected to TV? My idea was using it to word process and well basically everything a PC does which is why I use a full sized wireless keyboard and mouse set I got cheap. If yours is just for doing simple tasks running down this road is not a bad idea. There is the same sort of concept bundle which is this one
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=181211348976
Which looks a little better on using the keyboard as it's not all cramped up. You know?
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Well yeah basically use it the same way as you but just to use it as a backup in case my Laptop plays up , but the one you posted does look better
Petesky said:
Well yeah basically use it the same way as you but just to use it as a backup in case my Laptop plays up , but the one you posted does look better
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Yeh or see if you can try and get a cheap mouse and keyboard set. Wireless one but that's your choice
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