Related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0l_E-sr6JY&feature=related
Between 2:10 and 2:25.
When I first heard about a glasses free 3d display I was pumped for a real 3D usage experience. Especially when considering the widget animations and now 3D carousel screen transitions in sense 3.0.
In the video above, precisely at 2:22, the HTC rep confirms that not even the new weather animations will have a 3d effect.
I for one am bitterly disappointed, I could care less about filming my girlfriends tits in 3d, or posting pics on Facebook so I can be boring in 3 dimensions to the 7 people worldwide that can actually view 3d content on their monitors.
I also can care less about mobile gaming, and will never spend a penny paying some company for 3d movies... although I might pirate them come to think of it.
So besides recording some 3d porn, I cant see a single use for this 3D screen...
Realistically speaking, what are the odds of a UI update, or a modded version coming to fruition? Will the 3D platform mature anytime soon? Or should I grab the superior (arguably) SGS 2 and revisit 3d in 2 years when content developers are taking it seriously?
If green hornet 3d is what I have to look forward to then they can keep it.
Please add your thoughts/rumors/reports.
Well said if you ask me
Sent from my MiuiSpeedy
They said in March when they revealed it that the UI would not be 3D, don't know why this comes as a shock to you now.
Plenty of Movies/Mobile Games will be more than enough 3D for you to handle. You'll be glad the UI is not in 3D anyway, it gets strenuous on the eyes. Its an effect that you're not supposed to be exposed to all hours of the day.
ajs421 said:
They said in March when they revealed it that the UI would not be 3D, don't know why this comes as a shock to you now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was aware. That didn't preclude the possibility of incorporating 3d elements here and there. Furthermore, I'd like to know if anyone has heard anything about this being expanded.
Are there any tools in existence for creating custom content to build into a ROM, how feasible would that be etc.
The 3d effect only works in landscape. So a ui based around portrait use has no chance of working in 3d no matter who takes up the challenge.
Btw, I'd love to be proven wrong. I hoped the whole experience could be 3d.
Personally I don't really care ..the 3d to me is an added bonus ..I'm buying for the powerful specs and since Sprint gave me. Free upgrade I'm all for it..
Who cares whether you like the 3d or not, don't use it. It is an added bonus that you are obviously not paying for as the device is $199 after upgrade.
It would be exactly the same price if they removed the 3d feature so why do people really care! It is nit like HTC skimped somewhere else. For the people who say the 5mp camera, please do your research about mp's before making the stupid comment like many others keep making about it being a downgrade.
The EVO's 8mp camera blows and if they took the same EVO camera and made it 15mp's it would still blow, just larger!
when i first heard about glass-free 3D technology on mobile phones, i couldn't be more excited... waiting for the day i get my hands on an evo3D
and some time later, i heard news about samsung not making 3D phones, saying they don't see potential in making the devices... and then i was growing a bit skeptical...but not stirred (cuz samsung ain't exactly my cup of tea anyways)
today.. i went and tried a LG optimus 3D... and you know what? to my surprise... it's crap, pure marketing gimmick, it's like them 3D stickers, but with motion pictures, i am sorely disappointed in this technology and i imagine the evo3D would have similar affects.... now.... i'm planning to skip everything mobile 3D...
I could care less about the 3D as well. What makes this phone so great, is the phone itself. This is the best phone Sprint has had since the EVO which is why I think most people are excited about the phone. I am looking forward to seeing what Devs can do with this horsepower.
I will be interested to see if 3D apps start coming out over the next year. It looks like HTC is going let Devs produce apps made specifically for Sense and that might include 3D stuff. Right now there is very little too be that excited about in regards to 3D - but there is a lot of potential for some pretty cool stuff.
If this phone didn't have all of the other specs and all it had going for it was 3D then this phone probably goes the way of the Echo (dual-screen phone) but the amazing specs along with 3D is creating a lot of excitement.
srb7215 said:
I could care less about the 3D as well. What makes this phone so great, is the phone itself. This is the best phone Sprint has had since the EVO which is why I think most people are excited about the phone. I am looking forward to seeing what Devs can do with this horsepower.
I will be interested to see if 3D apps start coming out over the next year. It looks like HTC is going let Devs produce apps made specifically for Sense and that might include 3D stuff. Right now there is very little too be that excited about in regards to 3D - but there is a lot of potential for some pretty cool stuff.
If this phone didn't have all of the other specs and all it had going for it was 3D then this phone probably goes the way of the Echo (dual-screen phone) but the amazing specs along with 3D is creating a lot of excitement.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly, if HTC had not added the 3d and called this new device the EVO 2, I would bet that it would be exactly the same phone we are getting now minus the 3d. It would be the Sprint version of the Sensation.
I don't understand why people don't get.
Even if you don't like the 3D display, being able to take 3D pictures and video is pretty amazing on a phone that's $199. 3DTVs are still growing in market share, they're not going away. I myself have a pretty nice one, and the EVO 3D is coming out the day before my Florida vacation. Really looking forward to getting some nifty 3D videos.
Besides, they could be like every other manufacturer and come out with the "EVO 2" with just updated specs. The 3D functionality is a really awesome throw-in if you ask me.
Levito said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0l_E-sr6JY&feature=related
I for one am bitterly disappointed, I could care less about filming my girlfriends tits in 3d, or posting pics on Facebook so I can be boring in 3 dimensions to the 7 people worldwide that can actually view 3d content on their monitors.
I also can care less about mobile gaming, and will never spend a penny paying some company for 3d movies... although I might pirate them come to think of it.
So besides recording some 3d porn, I cant see a single use for this 3D screen...
Please add your thoughts/rumors/reports.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So your volunteering to make 3d porn of your girlfriend on the Evo3D? sweet..
lol just kidding
XD
If there was a bigger market share of 3d monitors/TV's I'd already be interviewing models.
Don't even care about the 3d...its a fun little extra I am curious to play with, but, the big gimmicks on both evos are the last reasons I an getting them.
Sent from my PC36100
I agree with everyone who wants the phone for its specs rather than for the 3D. For those who are surprised the 3D is not as good as theaters then anything I say to you, you wouldn't understand cause your just to damn stupid. (No need to say my grammur is wrong anywhere cause I dont give a **** and I add this cause whenever someone says someones stupid or retarded someone always says...its then not than, who's stupid now) The phone is gonna be sick and it has amazing potential to be even more bad ass than it is. 3D games.....fun. 3D movies......showoff. 3D pictures and videos........can't tell me you wouldn't have some fun with it. But with all the 3D effects gone, the phone is still equal to or greater that Samsung.
To actually address the wasted potential argument, I think we're all on these forums because we individually feel like every phone has potential beyond the stock versions.
As far as wasted is concerned, you can't really say it's wasted if there's no proven way to efficiently better it. I haven't really looked around, but I don't think there are many phones that are using the potential of 3D tech in a better way. Granted, you could say that every 3D device that will hit the market in a similar time frame may be wasting potential, i'm not sure anyone knows of a proven way to better it at this time.
3D everything would be great, especially if the 2D/3D switch could turn it off/on on the whole phone. but i don't think the tech is there yet.
personally, i'll be getting it because it's the best device for me, even without the 3D feature.
toxicfumes22 said:
For those who are surprised the 3D is not as good as theaters then anything I say to you, you wouldn't understand cause your just to damn stupid. (No need to say my grammur is wrong anywhere cause I dont give a **** and I add this cause whenever someone says someones stupid or retarded someone always says...its then not than, who's stupid now)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not about the quality, it's about the pervasiveness of the effect creating an experience vs. a little periphery functionality. I was hoping for 3D Sense 3.0 immersion, even to a slight degree.
Also can you please refrain from cursing out imaginary people in this thread? I'm hoping that some useful news, rumors, development info, and hands-on experiences will be posted here.
So please try to keep it Highbrow. (which 3D porn is)
No1ustad said:
3D everything would be great, especially if the 2D/3D switch could turn it off/on on the whole phone. but i don't think the tech is there yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you believe this is a hardware, or software limitation on today's tech? Have you read or seen anything regarding it you can link to?
double post
Levito said:
Have you read or seen anything regarding it you can link to?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately, I was merely hypothesizing. I've been out of the loop for quite some time.
http://gizmodo.com/5812185/htc-evo-3d-oh-my-god-make-it-stop-hurting
Gizmodo has hardly anything nice to say about the evo 3d....i don't really care I'll be picking mine up on launch day anyway, but I just thought I would share with everyone else.
I noticed that, it's like everyone wants to complain about the 3d being ****ty while turning a blind eye to the raw power that is Evo 3D! You don't have to use 3d people!
Sent from my Samsuck Vibrant
The problem is that this is the first 3d phone. They aren't going to rate it that well. You can read the bias in some of the reviews and tell that they're overdoing it.
No the problem is Gizmodo are one of the biggest group of iPhone fanboys. Though I'm sure the newness of 3d isn't going to instantly wow anyone (until its on an iphone and its called innovation)
Very happy EVO 4G owner, but now after all these reviews, for sure waiting on the Sprint Galaxy S2 coming out end of July / early August, then will decide.
One of my beefs with the EVO-3D, is the gimmicky "3D" feature. I can give two ****s about 3D on my phone, would rather have seen HTC spent more development time in making it a thinner phone, while improving other features. And including the Green Hornet in 3D, and Spider Man 3D, who ****ing cares about that bull****, is that truly a selling point ? To who ?
I think HTC and Sprint dropped the ball a little here, they should have just made the EVO-2, and made it super bad ass specs to destroy the Galaxy S2, and should have tossed that "3D" idea in the trash for now.
Proud owner of my EVO 4G, but crying a little on the inside after reading lots of these reviews today.
Its funny how so many people here at xda have stated they could care less about 3D and would buy the phone without those capabilities while at the same time, the 3D feature is a HUGE focus point for reviewers. I could care less about the 3D, it will be fun to play with I'm sure, but its not a major concern for me in my decision to buy or not buy this phone.
Zorachus said:
Very happy EVO 4G owner, but now after all these reviews, for sure waiting on the Sprint Galaxy S2 coming out end of July / early August, then will decide.
One of my beefs with the EVO-3D, is the gimmicky "3D" feature. I can give two ****s about 3D on my phone, would rather have seen HTC spent more development time in making it a thinner phone, while improving other features. And including the Green Hornet in 3D, and Spider Man 3D, who ****ing cares about that bull****, is that truly a selling point ? To who ?
I think HTC and Sprint dropped the ball a little here, they should have just made the EVO-2, and made it super bad ass specs to destroy the Galaxy S2, and should have tossed that "3D" idea in the trash for now.
Proud owner of my EVO 4G, but crying a little on the inside after reading lots of these reviews today.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How many times are you going to copy and paste this post?
vinterchaos said:
No the problem is Gizmodo are one of the biggest group of iPhone fanboys. Though I'm sure the newness of 3d isn't going to instantly wow anyone (until its on an iphone and its called innovation)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rumors says the iPad3 will be named the iPad-3D, no joke, and due out this holiday season.
Just you watch, these iPhone fanboy sites, will be rubbing their ***** in one hand, and holding the iTampon I mean iPad in the other, and say oh my God, this scores 11/10, the best device every created. They will say, oh my gosh, it has 3D, this is unbelievable, spooge spooge.
**** off enGadget and Jizzmodo
mlin said:
Its funny how so many people here at xda have stated they could care less about 3D and would buy the phone without those capabilities while at the same time, the 3D feature is a HUGE focus point for reviewers. I could care less about the 3D, it will be fun to play with I'm sure, but its not a major concern for me in my decision to buy or not buy this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 3d will be neat to mess with and see if development can make it better.. but even with bad reviews, I've never not seen a phone get better then it is at stock out of the box after groups like Cyanogen get their versions of Android on the phone.. I'm not stressing out, I will be waving to T-Mobile next Friday.
mlin said:
Its funny how so many people here at xda have stated they could care less about 3D and would buy the phone without those capabilities while at the same time, the 3D feature is a HUGE focus point for reviewers. I could care less about the 3D, it will be fun to play with I'm sure, but its not a major concern for me in my decision to buy or not buy this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most [H]ardcore geeks I know, don't want the EVO-3D for the "3D", they want is for being more of the EVO-2, or a next gen EVO, with double the spec's as the original and Sense 3.0
I wish reviewers, would look at the EVO-3D that way, step back away from the "3D" aspects of the phone, and just review based on much improved battery life...the cool updated Sense 3.0...and faster hardware with dual cores, more memory and RAM...and the higher res screen...Those updates are very worthy of a high review in my opinion.
The phone is a beast. 3D is cool I'll be happy to have it. 95% of reviews are b.s. buy what u want not what some guy u don't know says.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
I just don't understand what spec isn't up to the highest level. I mean Yeh could use more internal memory but not a big deal with apps2sd. Camera its already proven 8,5 or 1.47838 doesn't matter as much as sensor ala iPhone. So people who says shouldn't have focused on 3d what spec would u raised the bar on and no saying quad core don't work tablets aren't even there.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
u921333 said:
I just don't understand what spec isn't up to the highest level. I mean Yeh could use more internal memory but not a big deal with apps2sd. Camera its already proven 8,5 or 1.47838 doesn't matter as much as sensor ala iPhone. So people who says shouldn't have focused on 3d what spec would u raised the bar on and no saying quad core don't work tablets aren't even there.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What?
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
3D is not important to me. I mean, I'll probably use it in the first month or so, but then I'll probably forget about it. That being said, I don't think it would be fair for any reviewer to disregard the 3D, as this phone is going to be the "trendsetter" for the niche. Just like the OG Evo was the trendsetter for large screens and kickstands.
I do believe, however, that the 3D feature should not be given as much weight during these reviews.
They did mention that it's FAST. But 3D hurt guy's eyes. Some people are more sensitive to these things than others. What I am after, is a solid phone and new Sense. (Sorry AOSP crowd, I like my pig with a professional makeup on)
I think all the reviews and people wanting the phone need to ask themselves would you buy this phone if there was no 3d?
I know I would buy it just because of the specs and sense update.... This is a definite upgrade from my og evo
The 3d is just icing on the cake....
And the whole experience of the phone isn't 3d.. Only 3d movies videos and pictures will be in 3d... Your normal day to day use of the phone (text, email, etc) isn't going to be in 3d...
And as someone else pointed out... As soon as an "i" whatever comes with 3d it will then be accepted...
Sent from my PC36100
$5 bucks says that if the phone did not have the 3D feature, or the 3D feature was not the headlining feature, it would have had better reviews across the board for all websites that examined the phone.
I understand people don't like the idea of 3D being "crammed" down their throats, but it's not like the phone is more expensive than lets say the Sensation. In fact it's cheaper.
Overall, its a huge spec bump (understatement) compared to the original evo.
Ep3n3wp said:
I think all the reviews and people wanting the phone need to ask themselves would you buy this phone if there was no 3d?
I know I would buy it just because of the specs and sense update.... This is a definite upgrade from my og evo
The 3d is just icing on the cake....
And the whole experience of the phone isn't 3d.. Only 3d movies videos and pictures will be in 3d... Your normal day to day use of the phone (text, email, etc) isn't going to be in 3d...
And as someone else pointed out... As soon as an "i" whatever comes with 3d it will then be accepted...
Sent from my PC36100
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly, well said! You remove the 3D which will have limited use I don't care who you are. This thing will be insane. I'm a sense fan, so I'm looking forward to 3.0. Like what you like, but you remove the bloated monkey from this phonethis phone and it's going to be a while before another phone comes out that would be as fast or buttery smooth as this phone would be.
* this post was not intended to start the "Oh yeah the Photon.. Blah blah." Or "Well the GSII.. Blah blah blah"... So please lets not start it I can view that crap on any number of also non related threads around here.
The only one thing I don't get is people only concern themselves over the 3D but when it comes to its power they just say its fast. They even go so far as to say it never lags even slightly. But they all hate on the 3D so to me this phone is awesome to still get a 7/10 or 8/10 cause remove the 3D and those are all 9/10 or 10/10. I do want the 3D because I will have fun with it, but It is not the reason I am buying the EVO. Its the community and the specs and 'I' like the design as well. I just hope it doesn't bother my already F'ed up eyes.
I like how they call it a "Lightning Review" as in, "We don't give two ****s about this unless it says "Apple" on the back, so he's what our 5 min with the device looked like"
If this has been asked before I apologize and mods can close this. Now that we have s-off, root, custom roms, kernels, etc. Aside from the 3d which can wear off, is the EVO 3d worth it? There has been alot of debate for and against and I just can't see keeping OG EVO just to be pushing it to the max to run the stock rom of the EVO 3D. Thinking on making the plunge in two weeks. If there is a thread for this already I apologize again and close this.
Apples to oranges. I get almost every new phone that gets released on Sprint. The 3D is effect is pretty cool. More memory and faster processor are big plus. And I like the screen better.
shaun0207 said:
Apples to oranges. I get almost every new phone that gets released on Sprint. The 3D is effect is pretty cool. More memory and faster processor are big plus. And I like the screen better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, I played with a co-workers 3vo and once I saw storage and memory I was pretty much sold.
Storage and memory are only a snip of what it offers. The dual core processor flies! The screen is bright and vivid. It runs apps seamlessly, and video is crystal clear. Its a huge step up from the 4G I think.
I know when I was thinking about getting this phone, all I could focus on was, "Well, i dont really care about 3D, so why get the phone?" Truth is its so much more than just 3D, its an over all step up from the 4G, with 3D capabilities.... good luck on the plunge!
Which would you buy and which do you think will offer more roms. I'm available for an upgrade now.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA
I had the same choice yesterday . I honestly picked the S3, HTC's UI gets boring and old after a while and i have an HTC phone right now. I wanna try something new and that 2gigs of ram is hard to pass on.
That's what I was thinking plus the larger screen is an added bonus on the s3.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA
I wouldn't want to miss my 64gb microsd and an exchangable/extendable battery. So I'd go for a SIII. What a shame that HTC removed both.
Pretty sure the lte sprint version has micro sd. Battery not removable although weak, is yet a minor detail along with the multiple positives of the solid build of the physical phone itself, and sense upgraded goodness. My plan is to simply snag a portable charger from radioshack n be done with the quarells of non-removable battery. Not to mention you should go check out the EvoLTE forums and the bat life peeps are getting. If ya really don't care for sense, pretty sure aosp n AOKP will be dropped for it eventually n with that, even more battery life...
~Freshly re-acquired evo rockin' NRGZ; from the mogul up ta present, but then AOKP happened. P.S. f**k the police....
Both phones are very good. If you are on sprint then its a given, just go with the evo. If your not then you have more room to play. However I would recommend the evo over the Samsung GS3. First Sprint gives true unlimited data and already has the evo, not the GS3. Giving props to the GS3 for the slightly bigger screen is a no-no. It is only a tenth of an inch bigger. Besides the bigger the screen, the more cpu/gpu power used. Speaking of that the evo has a snap dragon krait @ 1.5 GHZ dual core while the Exnos is @ 1.4 GHZ dual core. The Krait is a fairly popular CPU and is extreamly fast and responsive for its generation. It also in many other devices with have a large development behind them, therefore the CPU will be better tuned and potently have a higher overclock the the exnos. If you are concerned about ram, why should you be? The evo can easily run all applications that can be thrown at it including games. For the record virtual ram is available now.... (ya it wont be as fast enitialy, but what if they were to mount it to the rom instead of the standard class 5 micro sd card...) And if you enjoy gameing your in luck Htc's one line is the first 3rd party company to exclusively be accepted by Sony's playstation, allowing you to be able to play some exclusive playstaion games. The evo, in my personal opinion has a far superior build quality then Samsung's cheap plastic mat finish. When it comes to Customer care, support and updates, htc will surpass samsung. There are a lot of cool new software features such as S Voice on Samsung though, although a lot of people say they are lousy, and just another selling point to compete with Apple's precious Siri app. IF you are conserned about the batterlife, the evo has a larger battery then the GS3, and even though its non removable, it last a long time. I own it and im a power user. I cant stop using it. If you look at the popular devices section you will see mainly samsung devices, although the evo is on there and shurely will reach #1 as its original, the htc evo 4g did ,witch was the #1 device for well over a year. Development will pretty much be even though, maybe the evo a little beter, having a starting chance. There is so much more info that i could talk about but im starting to ramble on and on. When it comes to picking a device I look for the best device weather it is a brand name or not and the amount of potential development it will receive. That being said I pick the evo and would recommend it as the best Smarthphone on the market to anyone looking to buy a new phone! I know this may seem very one sided, but i did my research before choosing between the two (yes these are the exact to phones i was comparing before making a final decision). I own many samsung products and am not saying the GS3 is bad, just not the best choice. Give me a thanks if I have helped anyone with this matter, and if not, be mature and do not flame me or others providing information to help the general public!
---------- Post added at 05:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:11 PM ----------
MassStash said:
Pretty sure the lte sprint version has micro sd. Battery not removable although weak, is yet a minor detail along with the multiple positives of the solid build of the physical phone itself, and sense upgraded goodness. My plan is to simply snag a portable charger from radioshack n be done with the quarells of non-removable battery. Not to mention you should go check out the EvoLTE forums and the bat life peeps are getting. If ya really don't care for sense, pretty sure aosp n AOKP will be dropped for it eventually n with that, even more battery life...
~Freshly re-acquired evo rockin' NRGZ; from the mogul up ta present, but then AOKP happened. P.S. f**k the police....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does have a micros sd card holder under the plastic portion under the top back of the phone that covers the camera, NFC, and all other antennas. You don't have to be tethered to a charger all day like many other smart-phones because the batter life is fantastic. Have you ever heard of Sedio? They are making a battery case for the evo right now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667613 (all thanks go to the OP!) Sense is so well optimized that you forget its even there. All of the features you loved remain. It feels like AOKP/AOSP but with the option of adding sense widgets!
Hi5josh man you need to do some research. First off they will both share the krait s4 processor that you think so highly of. Second of all the S3 has a bigger battery than the Evo LTE. Hey listen if you like the Evo LTE thats cool but dont post information unless you get it correct (no offense). One more thing honestly the whole Sony thing is a gimmick they didnt announce or show any games yet. Dont expect any ps1, or 2 games to be played on your EVO that would just defeat the purpose of the Playstation Vita. HTC will probably get some Homebrew games from third party developers through Sony. Samsung has already had a game center so not missing much there at all.
I just wanted to get some input about what everyone thinks about the 3rd party development concerning these two phones. I currently have, and still love, my original Evo 4g. I have it rooted with CM7 installed.
I'm on Sprint, and I love being able to use the free wifi hotspot built into CM7 without paying a ton of money to sprint. I like having emulators and playing all my old favorite games on the TV.
The difference in the screens doesn't bother me much, but I figured the extra power of the GS3 would be very beneficial with the way I use the phone. On the other hand, I've heard custom mods and development aren't near as good with the GS3.
So the main question:
Should I go for the raw power of the GS3, or the more modding and developer friendly LTEVo? I really don't want to lose my free wifi hotspot... I use it all the time and I'm not sure if I can get it with the GS3.
The free hot spot you can get when you root with any phone, so that's a non issue.
My understanding is the phones are about the same, the galaxy has more RAM it seems, but the processor is about the same. You should consider build.quality. do you like how the EVO looks and feels or the Sammy? I don't like the plastic feel of the Samsung phones myself. It's a personal choice.
Also the front buttons on the galaxy are ugly, and u like dedicated camera button on the EVO. And kickstand.
sent from my EVO LTE
You said a bunch of nothing. Also what makes you think the GS3 has more "raw power"? They both have the same chip.
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Sg3 had more RAM
sent from my EVO LTE
More RAM doesn't equate to more power lol
My main reason for moving to HTC (from Samsung Epic 4G) is OEM support. Samsung could care less about upgrading phone's they've already sold. You can bet your mortgage on the Evo getting Jelly Bean before the Galaxy S III, and I'm sure we're talking a difference in months.
tjkrz said:
My main reason for moving to HTC (from Samsung Epic 4G) is OEM support. Samsung could care less about upgrading phone's they've already sold. You can bet your mortgage on the Evo getting Jelly Bean before the Galaxy S III, and I'm sure we're talking a difference in months.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm thinking the same but usually upgrades are a pain cause so many differences and carriers, I think sprint got the best track record with upgrades but maybe is because they don't have so many phones as Verizon and att, plus this time around the device is the same @ll over the us carriers so it should be easier, I'm getting the gs3 on tmobile since I already have tmobile but I'm keeping my EVO and wait for lte and the only thing that I hate about my EVO 3g doesn't cut it sometimes, when the evo came out I had not problems with 3g and that's all I used cause 4G will kill battery quick, to the op they both are great phones I think you should try the gs3 and if you prefer sense too much(even tho you said you like cm7) then get evo lte, btw development on the gs3 will be probably better then evo only because is the same phone in all major us carriers so all those developers will make roms for each on carrier and just changed radios and what not for the other carrier so it will be amazing and that was what Myn was talking about when he choose to get the GS3
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using Tapatalk 2
I laugh at anyone who chooses the Galaxy S3 because it has twice as much RAM as the Evo LTE. RAM wasn't a bottleneck in the 3D so why would it be an issue in the LTE? It was hardly a problem with the 4G. Phones simply don't utilize all that RAM. Adding more won't change anything.
Your decision should come down to maybe a handful of things. Probably the biggest knock against the Evo LTE is the battery. You have the freedom to access the S3's battery whenever you please without having to remove screws. For some people, that's a dealbreaker and they would shell out for the S3. Likewise, others would prefer the dedicated camera button.
At the end of the day, the decision is yours. I'm not really sure if I ever see myself buying a phone not made by HTC. Their products are simply amazing. I don't have anything against Samsung, it's just I love the three flagship Evos I have owned. I haven't found a reason to abandon them.
I think the question that has been asked has not yet been answered. Which phone will have more custom roms available. Or, maybe more importantly which will get a fully functional Cyanogen mod or other popular rom first?
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Im running cm9 on my Evo Lte now it's almost perfect no video camera yet. I think the SG 3 already has official cm support because Samsung already released source, HTC hasn't yet. Im pretty sure once source comes out the evo will get official support too. So to me it's which phone you like better, they're so close spec wise.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
ibleedbloo said:
I think the question that has been asked has not yet been answered. Which phone will have more custom roms available. Or, maybe more importantly which will get a fully functional Cyanogen mod or other popular rom first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This was the main part of question, and it hasn't really gotten much input. (Except from jgalan14, who brought up a good point)
shook187 said:
You said a bunch of nothing. Also what makes you think the GS3 has more "raw power"? They both have the same chip.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
stellar said:
More RAM doesn't equate to more power lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
chessmyantidrug said:
I laugh at anyone who chooses the Galaxy S3 because it has twice as much RAM as the Evo LTE. RAM wasn't a bottleneck in the 3D so why would it be an issue in the LTE? It was hardly a problem with the 4G. Phones simply don't utilize all that RAM. Adding more won't change anything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually I do consider more ram more power. It's not technically processing power, but if something makes it run faster, then I consider it giving it more power. Not technically correct, but it's still faster.
And no, that much more ram is not an issue when just using the phone to make calls and surf the web, or even play games from the market. But I already stated that one of the biggest things I use it for is playing on emulators. Well more ram IS needed for the later gen console emulators to run smoothly, especially when mirroring to the TV. My original 4g didn't run alot of N64 games smoothly when on the TV. You may laugh at me choosing the GS3 for more ram, but obviously you don't know anything about computer hardware if you actually paid attention to the post and still came to that conclusion.
-------------------------
I think the GS3 is going to be the better choice. The removable battery and more RAM are pretty big selling points. Not to mention the battery life on the GS3 is way better also. I'm not particularly concerned about it "feeling cheap" and I don't mind not having a camera button. I think the GS3 has some cooler camera features anyways. I will miss the kickstand though. Jgalan14 brought up a good point, hopefully the GS3 will get decent mods as well, if not I guess I can deal with it as long as I just get the free wifi hotspot from rooting. Especially since the main reason I modded was because of the Bluetooth issues keeping you from connecting Wiimotes to the Evo 4g; modding isn't necessary to connect Bluetooth controllers to the GS3. (Even tho CM7 has been awesome, so I may use Cyanogen mods again on the GS3)
Mainly, I think the GS3 will be much better at running emulators.
Now I'm just going to have to go buy one of those stupid proprietary MHL cables... that's my one big complaint about the GS3.
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
regalpimpin said:
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol that's a kick I'm the nuts, 2gb of ram!! AMD a small print disclaimer saying 1gb is to run touchwiz smoothly lol screw SG3
sent from my EVO LTE
nkchri2 said:
This was the main part of question, and it hasn't really gotten much input. (Except from jgalan14, who brought up a good point)
Actually I do consider more ram more power. It's not technically processing power, but if something makes it run faster, then I consider it giving it more power. Not technically correct, but it's still faster.
And no, that much more ram is not an issue when just using the phone to make calls and surf the web, or even play games from the market. But I already stated that one of the biggest things I use it for is playing on emulators. Well more ram IS needed for the later gen console emulators to run smoothly, especially when mirroring to the TV. My original 4g didn't run alot of N64 games smoothly when on the TV. You may laugh at me choosing the GS3 for more ram, but obviously you don't know anything about computer hardware if you actually paid attention to the post and still came to that conclusion.
-------------------------
I think the GS3 is going to be the better choice. The removable battery and more RAM are pretty big selling points. Not to mention the battery life on the GS3 is way better also. I'm not particularly concerned about it "feeling cheap" and I don't mind not having a camera button. I think the GS3 has some cooler camera features anyways. I will miss the kickstand though. Jgalan14 brought up a good point, hopefully the GS3 will get decent mods as well, if not I guess I can deal with it as long as I just get the free wifi hotspot from rooting. Especially since the main reason I modded was because of the Bluetooth issues keeping you from connecting Wiimotes to the Evo 4g; modding isn't necessary to connect Bluetooth controllers to the GS3. (Even tho CM7 has been awesome, so I may use Cyanogen mods again on the GS3)
Mainly, I think the GS3 will be much better at running emulators.
Now I'm just going to have to go buy one of those stupid proprietary MHL cables... that's my one big complaint about the GS3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hold your horses here...
I'm getting pretty sick and tired of these "more RAM=1337 ph0ne" comments that are parroted endlessly everywhere. No Android phone has ever had 2GB of RAM before... The bottom line is that its benefits remain to be seen. From what we do know, it really shouldn't help at all (given the way Android utilizes RAM). Maybe with Android 5 or 6 (lol) down the line? Who knows.
What I do know for sure right now is that RAM it will precisely 0 effect on its emulator performance. That all comes down to developer optimization for particular chipsets. At the level Android phone emulators are currently operating (not to mention the basic systems they're emulating), RAM is the last thing that will help. Now a future PS2 emulator might be a different story, although the S4 is not nearly powerful enough to run it at anywhere near acceptable levels.
Battery life "way better" on the S3? Can I have some of what you are smoking sir? The only difference is a 100mah battery in its favor. Every review I've read so far has stated that it has, at most, equal battery life to the EVO/ATT One X. Removable battery is a nice plus though.
IMO the big difference to consider between these two phones is software, plain and simple.
How is 100mAh significantly more battery? Not to mention gsmarena battery test had the EVO at 45, the int gs3 at 43
Sent from my EVO using XDA
regalpimpin said:
I can run any emulators I want on my transformer prime flawlessly. Guess how much ram it has. 1gb.
You can't even compare n64 roms running choppy on the OG evo to the new evo. Major OS update, single core 1ghz cpu vs dual core 1.5 ghz, 512mb ram compared to 1gb.
Not to say, if a ps2 emulator ever becomes mainstream it couldn't be beneficial. But haven't they also stated, that the extra gig of ram is dedicated to running touchwiz.
So you really arent getting any extra ram, your just getting some more of your 1gb free'd up because it's not running the skin. Seems silly considering the benchmarks are even favoring the evo at this point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wasn't trying to directly compare... I was just stated that for reference. As far as the extra ram being used up by touchwiz, then that just means there is one more huge reason to keep using Cyanogen like I am now. Goodbye touchwiz, hello extra 1Gb RAM!! Even if current emulators and apps can't take full advantage of the extra RAM, I think it still does make it more future proof than the LTEvo. And even if you can't unlock the other 1GB from touchwiz, it still will make the phone faster and less laggy with dedicated RAM for the UI.
As far as the benchmarks, I'm not really sure where you got that information. A link would be nice = D
I'm not a dead set fan of either phone. I have thoroughly enjoyed my original Evo. I just want to pick the better phone for how I want to use it. So far, I haven't seen anything to sway my choice towards the LTEvo. The better/removable battery and the extra RAM are pretty big.
-------------------------
So far from this post and more research, this is what I've found.
Evo 4g LTE:
- Looks like the rear facing camera is better
- Better display
- It's not all plastic
- Kickstand!
- Hardware camera button
- Doesn't rely on proprietary accessories (a la S3 MHL cable)
- Beats audio
Galaxy S3
- Extra RAM (even if it is dedicated to Touchwiz, that is just a big chunk less of the original 1GB being used for the UI, which means more free RAM)
- Same phone across all carriers, hopefully leading to more/easier 3rd party development
- More camera functions (continuous shooting / best shot)
- Removable battery
- Longer lasting battery
- 32 Gb option available
- .6 MP larger front facing camera
- Better multitasking than the LTEvo (no reloading)
- S-Voice
@nkchri2. Are you sure you understand that 1.5gb of ram sitting around doing nothing on your phone will be just as useful as 200mb or ram sitting around on your phone doing nothing? The extra ram, whether it be 100mb or 8gb's, does the exact same thing. It is just sitting there. Now if you feel you will have 100 apps open at the same time then maybe you will see the benefit. If ram even matters at all at this point, it certainly doesn't matter to the degree at which you are giving it right now
Love Divine said:
Battery life "way better" on the S3? Can I have some of what you are smoking sir? The only difference is a 100mah battery in its favor. Every review I've read so far has stated that it has, at most, equal battery life to the EVO/ATT One X. Removable battery is a nice plus though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sinfiery said:
How is 100mAh significantly more battery? Not to mention gsmarena battery test had the EVO at 45, the int gs3 at 43
Sent from my EVO using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I missed the two post concerning my comments on the battery life. The S3 having a way better battery was the wrong way of putting it I guess. Yes, it's only 100mAh more, so it has a 5% larger battery. I guess the point is the S3 must be much easier on its battery. You mentioned gsmarena...
gsmarena(dot)com
/compare.php3?idPhone1=4804&idPhone2=4665
(Forum wont let me post links yet... so I had to list it that way)
This compares the two phones and lists the S3 having 2 hours and 30 minutes longer talk time the the LTEvo. I have seen a few other websites also showing a clear advantage in the battery life with video and surfing as well, I just can't find that link and gsmarena just lists talk time numbers. If I do I'll repost.
knlmwq said:
@nkchri2. Are you sure you understand that 1.5gb of ram sitting around doing nothing on your phone will be just as useful as 200mb or ram sitting around on your phone doing nothing? The extra ram, whether it be 100mb or 8gb's, does the exact same thing. It is just sitting there. Now if you feel you will have 100 apps open at the same time then maybe you will see the benefit. If ram even matters at all at this point, it certainly doesn't matter to the degree at which you are giving it right now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even if it doesn't.. does it hurt to have it? Everyone just keeps posting about how the extras the GS3 has "doesn't matter". I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I posted in this forum to get information ABOUT the LTEvo, but seems like most people are just LTEvo fans that want to flame the GS3, not really comparing. Okay, well like I said, I'm not dead set on getting either, but if that stuff doesn't matter...
What does the LTEvo have to offer that the GS3 doesn't that would make me want it instead?
I made a list in a previous post but I still think I'm leaning more towards the GS3, but if anyone has something I'm missing on the LTEvo I'd love to hear it.
nkchri2 said:
Even if it doesn't.. does it hurt to have it? Everyone just keeps posting about how the extras the GS3 has "doesn't matter". I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I posted in this forum to get information ABOUT the LTEvo, but seems like most people are just LTEvo fans that want to flame the GS3, not really comparing. Okay, well like I said, I'm not dead set on getting either, but if that stuff doesn't matter...
What does the LTEvo have to offer that the GS3 doesn't that would make me want it instead?
I made a list in a previous post but I still think I'm leaning more towards the GS3, but if anyone has something I'm missing on the LTEvo I'd love to hear it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude you are in the EVOLTE forum, we are all users and fans of this phone. What do you expect? Ofcourse we will lean towards the evo more. Both are good phones, but honestly we like the evo way more otherwise we wouldnt have bought it and actively discuss and praise it. Stop trolling with the gs3 is better crap.