Running 6.1 build of ics, no issues at all with stock kernel but was wondering what you guys think of the glitch kernel paired with this rom? Should I make the plunge even though stock is working flawlessly or should I keep stock? I usually don't post questions and figure stuff out for myself but I want the community's opinion on it before I make up my mind. I know its ultimately my decision but any input positive or negative would be appreciated, if you are going to reply please post reasons and not just a yes or no response,
Thanks.
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I like glitch alot, but for now i would stick with stock...jmo
Well if it's working great, then don't try to fix something that isnt broken lol it would probably create more problems
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I'm running glitch b3 and...I definitely recommend it if you're into tweaking. Live OC makes a pretty big difference in performance to me.
I'd agree with sendan. You're not losing any functionality with glitch, only gaining features and performance.
Also, it's just a kernel, there's no harm in trying it out. If you don't like it, restore a backup or reflash the rom. It's not like you have anything to lose.
I like glitch too. A live oc around 114-116% and 13xx as max clock makes this phone run like a dream.
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bobloblaw1 said:
I like glitch too. A live oc around 114-116% and 13xx as max clock makes this phone run like a dream.
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Installed glitch, ran your settings and threw phone into a constant reboot. Had to flash build 1 and then 6.1 to get it back up and running. My phone doesn't play nice with glitch I guess :-/ lol
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mkuehl06 said:
Installed glitch, ran your settings and threw phone into a constant reboot. Had to flash build 1 and then 6.1 to get it back up and running. My phone doesn't play nice with glitch I guess :-/ lol
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Same problem for me too.
It's very touchy, nobody will disagree with that.
and thats why I posted what I did...glitch 13.1 runs great on mtd gb roms, but glitch 14b3 for ICS seems hit or miss on some devices. Im sure it will get better as development continues, until then sotck is probably the best bet for most.
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and thats why I posted what I did...glitch 13.1 runs great on mtd gb roms, but glitch 14b3 for ICS seems hit or miss on some devices. Im sure it will get better as development continues, until then sotck is probably the best bet for most.
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Yeah I understand man. The glitch runs fine on my phone if I don't tweak the CPU at all. Tweak it at all and the phone freaks out like a mf on crack or something lol.
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Sorry about that. My phone was running fine at 115% for about 24 and then it also threw a reboot fit like yours had.
I;m not really sure what caused it but I guess it's still a bit temperamental at this point.
bobloblaw1 said:
Sorry about that. My phone was running fine at 115% for about 24 and then it also threw a reboot fit like yours had.
I;m not really sure what caused it but I guess it's still a bit temperamental at this point.
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Yeah I think 1200mhz is about the most my phone will handle, and that's with 100%oc so maybe if I tweak it to 115 or something I'd have to drop it down a notch. I just don't feel like dealing with a reboot fit right now
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I have mine at 107%...tbh it gets ridiculously hot with anything much higher.
mkuehl06 said:
Installed glitch, ran your settings and threw phone into a constant reboot. Had to flash build 1 and then 6.1 to get it back up and running. My phone doesn't play nice with glitch I guess :-/ lol
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You could've just gone into recovery and erased your OC/voltage settings. Assuming you're using the glitch recovery, that is.
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and thats why I posted what I did...glitch 13.1 runs great on mtd gb roms, but glitch 14b3 for ICS seems hit or miss on some devices. Im sure it will get better as development continues, until then sotck is probably the best bet for most.
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Every phone responds differently to OC, *especially* it seems, with the new LiveOC system in v14. I haven't seen any issues reported by people using v14 with completely stock settings, so I wouldn't call the kernel itself unstable, just the utilization of some of the features it includes. I also suspect that a lot of the people that report issues with glitch haven't read and/or taken the time to understand the LiveOC guide that is linked to in the glitch OP.
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You could've just gone into recovery and erased your OC/voltage settings. Assuming you're using the glitch recovery, that is.
Every phone responds differently to OC, *especially* it seems, with the new LiveOC system in v14. I haven't seen any issues reported by people using v14 with completely stock settings, so I wouldn't call the kernel itself unstable, just the utilization of some of the features it includes. I also suspect that a lot of the people that report issues with glitch haven't read and/or taken the time to understand the LiveOC guide that is linked to in the glitch OP.
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i agree...guess that i should of been more clear and said that most folks do not know how to properly setup v14 with nstools and can easily cause damage to the device...which is part of the reason i mention to stick with stock(if your not sure wth your doing lol). im currently running ths 6.1 with glitch 14 oc'd @ 1200mhz and undervolted -50 across the board, fiop/lagfree govenor and everything is working great.
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i agree...guess that i should of been more clear and said that most folks do not know how to properly setup v14 with nstools and can easily cause damage to the device...which is part of the reason i mention to stick with stock(if your not sure wth your doing lol). im currently running ths 6.1 with glitch 14 oc'd @ 1200mhz and undervolted -50 across the board, fiop/lagfree govenor and everything is working great.
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Well as of almost 12 hours ago or so, I'm running 105%liveOc 12xx setting, lag free and fiop, and seems to be no issues. I had to send my backup fas in for the ota brick that happened with a lot of peoples eh03 ota. Hopefully they send me a replacement cause we arent due for upgrading till October.
So until it comes back I'm a little hesitant to play with uv. I know the basics, but still don't wanna play the boot loop game
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i agree...guess that i should of been more clear and said that most folks do not know how to properly setup v14 with nstools and can easily cause damage to the device...which is part of the reason i mention to stick with stock(if your not sure wth your doing lol). im currently running ths 6.1 with glitch 14 oc'd @ 1200mhz and undervolted -50 across the board, fiop/lagfree govenor and everything is working great.
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Definitely agree that for most users the stock kernel is probably best, and it isn't really lacking any features the average user will miss. Except I thought I saw something about 6.1 not including voodoo sound? Not sure about others, but that's a must for me. Anyway, I'm personally running 110% liveOC with 1320mhz max with no undervolting and the phone feels really responsive a good part of the time. It's been good so far but I need to stress test it.
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Well as of almost 12 hours ago or so, I'm running 105%liveOc 12xx setting, lag free and fiop, and seems to be no issues. I had to send my backup fas in for the ota brick that happened with a lot of peoples eh03 ota. Hopefully they send me a replacement cause we arent due for upgrading till October.
So until it comes back I'm a little hesitant to play with uv. I know the basics, but still don't wanna play the boot loop game
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I can definitely see being hesitant with the undervolting, and especially with being able to adust ARM and INT voltages. As I understand it, you could certainly end up with a brick if things are pushed too far.
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Ever since I flashed EB01 I have been having problems with screen responsiveness, It will seem to work fine then after awhile will work selectively.
When I had voodoo installed, it started to do it I was running superclean 2.4
I flashed today back to EB01 Stock rooted non-voodoo, was still seeing it after awhile.
I also just flashed MIUI to play with today, and still am seeing it.
Baseband. EB01
Kernel: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1
I have the same problem, with any ROM that is not an official ROM from Verizon. It seems to be happening as soon as I root it. It is intermittent and locking and then unlocking the screen fixes it.
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Mine works fine.
glenniosaurus said:
Ever since I flashed EB01 I have been having problems with screen responsiveness, It will seem to work fine then after awhile will work selectively.
When I had voodoo installed, it started to do it I was running superclean 2.4
I flashed today back to EB01 Stock rooted non-voodoo, was still seeing it after awhile.
I also just flashed MIUI to play with today, and still am seeing it.
Baseband. EB01
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First...post questions in general. Second did you wipe data prior to instal?
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Mine works fine.
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And what was the purpose of your response in this thread?
What launcher are you using? I had this problem and switched launchers from Zeam back to Launcher Pro, when I did that, all my lag issues with screen responsiveness were fixed.
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And what was the purpose of your response in this thread?
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Same as yours pointing his out. Seriously many people here need to take a chill pill. In all reality his did help as it shows that he does not have the problem. The more people that have the problem the bigger it is. This helps weed it out.
I had this problem last night trying to press the h key. I am running SC 2.4
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happens to me also. I wonder why it dosnt happen to everyone??? And yes, i wiped and flashed.
Happens to me too. Seems to get worse with time. I was running superclean but flashed back to stock because the responsiveness got so bad my phone wasn't really usable. Happening again with debloated froyo too
It's happened to me on every Froyo ROM, even vanilla on occasion. It's probably just Samsung's ****ty kernel and so there's nothing much that can be done until there's source to work with.
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I think I might have found a solution. I went into stock recovery and wiped cache. After a reboot I no longer have the responsiveness issues.
Edit: unfortunately I still have the unresponsiveness issues...seems it was temporary fix. Also, it is always the middle of my screen from top to bottom which becomes unresponsive. How about the rest of you guys?
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cstrife999 said:
Same as yours pointing his out. Seriously many people here need to take a chill pill. In all reality his did help as it shows that he does not have the problem. The more people that have the problem the bigger it is. This helps weed it out.
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His post contributed nothing as it provided no useful information to the op. He's looking for an ans...who cares if it worked for him. If that's the case we would have over a hundred posts pop up in here saying "mine works". If that's what you're going to say then at least provide some information the op cam use.
I too have been perplexed with this problem. Posted up in general but no solution has been found. I usually get so annoyed I go back to eclair for a while till I get ambitious enough to try again.
I will also point out that I loose all screen sensitivity when the charger is plugged in. Yes, stock charger and does not do this at all on eclair.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957150
My phone and girls phone do this, mine is on sc2.4, hers is on sc2.2.
Its only slightly annoying at the moment for me, but she texts a lot and complains about the keyboard not working all the time.
The only unresponsiveness that I've noticed is that when I need to end a call, I find that I frequently have to tap "End" multiple times.
I'm also running Beautiful Widgets, so I assumed that that might have something to do with it.
Since BW requires an extra screen tap when coming out of a locked screen, I was assuming it was just a bug with the widget until I saw these posts.
Ok look if your useing set cpu and you set it to on demand your going to see lag but if you have this app and set it to conservative you will not have lag. If you are useing this app this will help you if thats your prob. If not them I suggest you DL'ed it to help your over all speed. I'm useing go launcher ex. Also as a side note I don't have any prob with my phone.
hmmmmmmmmm
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Ok look if your useing set cpu and you set it to on demand your going to see lag but if you have this app and set it to conservative you will not have lag. If you are useing this app this will help you if thats your prob. If not them I suggest you DL'ed it to help your over all speed. I'm useing go launcher ex. Also as a side note I don't have any prob with my phone.
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That's a great point. I never thought of that but I had also been noticing some lag while set cpu was set to on demand. Switched to conservative and did seem to notice a difference. Thanks.
I've always had SetCPU on conservative, 1GHz max and 200MHz min. Maybe I don't see it as much as you all say but it's enough for me to notice.
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
* please note voodoo is not enabled, if you have voodoo, disable it before flashing if you don't odin back to jfd first.
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
Question remains, is voodoo necessary?
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I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Good question! I was actually wondering this the other day. I tried a few different ROMs without lagfix.
I was wondering the same thing about it. "Is lagfix just a workaround to cheat higher quadrant scores?"
After a day or so on any ROM I tried without lagfix you would notice a slow down mainly in shutting down programs. Sometimes they would take up to 5 seconds to close! Opening programs slowed some but not nearly as noticeable. The dialer would take some time to open as well.
So in my experience lagfix seems to speed the phone in read/write capabilities. Which I imagine is what it was desinged for. You notice in Quadrant, that is where the most improvement is (In I/O).
So if you arent a real big phone geek (like most of us probably are) then the lagfix shouldnt make a huge difference to you. But, for me, I like my phone to fly doing anything. So lagfix enabled here!
It's not all about the speed. Its good to have a standard. This phone should've been on ext4 from the start. Supercurio has done a great job getting everyone switched over. I don't believe rfs is supported in cwm3+ either.
Just my opinion. I always use it. If I flash something else its an easy fix. Just flash an ext4 compatible kernel!
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I just reread your post, and I've never had a problem restoring backups. In fact, I flashed to an i9k Gingerbread ROM this morning, played around with it for a while (read: smashed my face against the gps), flashed a Froyo kernel and restored my nandroid without ever using ODIN or RFS
rfs = sux ballz (wen i first got my phone and started rooting one of the first things out of my mouth was wtf is rfs!)
ext4 = ahh, thats btr
I agree that stock felt oddly similar with voodoo enabled and disabled when i tried it for a day yesterday.
I disagree that you cant restore nandroids with CwMRecovery. For me it seems like its hit and miss which i'm gonna continue to test.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13284392#post13284392
Don't get me wrong....
Like I said, I love Voodoo.. I've only considered EXT4 and it is my preference... thought I made that clear.
BUT, I have not noticed any difference with it vs. using jellette's ROM, and that is really surprising to me. I know it can tend to "slow down" over time (which I do not understand why).. but changing from app to app I am noticing no difference.
Regarding restoring backups....
I said that because the man himself made THIS COMMENT just yesterday. I have had issues in the past (5 x maybe) where a restore failed, never knowing why. I've also had them restore fine, not sure why the difference.
s15274n said:
I know and love EXT4.... I've sweared by voodoo and it was the only lagfix I ever even considered. Until recently.
I went back to stock JFD (use my guide if you like)
I downloaded and flashed Heathens Private Stock
And...
I can not tell a difference without Voodoo. It seems JUST as fast if not faster than the previous ROMs I have used. A huge kudos to jellette as this ROM feels very nice and has a very nice theme to it. Switching back and forth between apps and they load very fast.. not noticing lag like on JFD. I realize Froyo helped this, just surprised is all.
Benefits:
- Discovered if /system is EXT4 *voodoo* you can't restore a backup in CWR
- Not having to worry about disabling voodoo (not done so much anymore)
- Seems just as fast and phone is how it shipped
- Voodoo Sound can be loaded from the Voodoo Control Plus app (not missing that feature)
Cons:
-Not sure yet, I suppose lower quadrant scores (meaningless anyway). I am getting barely over 1k, but it feels just as fast as when I was using voodoo.
Encourage you guys to backup everything, go back to stock and then try this ROM....
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Thanks for the info on Jelletts ROM. I am definitely going to try it out. I don't know about voodoo will test your theory for myself but kudos to Supercurio and the wonders he has made for us in the mean time.
I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I hear ya bro. Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here and yeah I saw u an koush tryin ta figure it out last night. Just thought i'd post my half and half results is all since I confirmed MD5 mismatch on one restore but an all good restore directly after and both with voodoo enabled which was posted as a possible problem. Didn't mean to sound as if I were putting werdz in ur mouth tho if I did. Just tryina help a brotha out!=)
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I understood you perfectly.. just didn't want others to think I was trying to say something I was not. Thanks man.
Talked to Ben Buchacher, you know the creator of SuperD.
I asked him what ROM and if he had lagfix.
He said he was using stock 2.2 and no lagfix, the lag went away in 2.2
PS he said TW ROMs weren't great.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Wait, does Ben have a Vibrant?
He made THE rom for the G1. I could still run super d on my g1 and tolerate it.
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Yea! A long time ago.
He is waiting for cm7 to get stable to start working
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
You keep saying your using his rom, but which one are you referring to in hist thread? there is a 2.2.1 and a 2.2
I tried the 2.2 and it was laggy like the stock 2.2 and I have taken my phone all the way back to closed box and brought it up to 2.2(KB5) and there is always lag there. I don't mind Touchwiz but when a couple weeks go by and my phone starts crawling across the ground like a drunken sailor it gets a little aggravating.
Basically in my experience any rom, and I mean any, with or without voodoo runs great for a few weeks, but then the slowness comes back and you start to notice apps taking longer to open and close, MMS really starts to lag as well as the keyboard when typing. the gallery really takes a hit and showing pictures off on my 500 dollar 1Ghz phone becomes embarrassing. So with or without voodoo stock 2.2 on the Vibrant seems to run great but runs out of gas in a few weeks, some may last a month. 2.2.1(sucks with no Wifi calling) seems to keep going much better, and the browser is faster. So if your running 2.2.1 of his then yea you might see a better faster rom, but if you run his 2.2 I bet after a few weeks of regular use you will start seeing lag and get frustrated. And I bet even the 2.2.1 will start to crawl at some point.
Now I'm not dissing his rom or anyone else's. They are all based off of the crap the Samsung shoved out the door and yea a few tweaks here and there help, but every rom always seems to start crawling at some point and nothing seems to bring it back to day one other then reflashing.
Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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Well, I guess once it's been out for a few weeks I will let you know. I am taking one of our best developers word on this matter though. I'm not saying I am right.. just pointing out someone smarter than me says so, and after using it for a few days I have to agree... so far.
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which rom are you running the 2.2.1 or 2.2
The only thing really keeping me on 2.2 roms is wifi calling.
I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I'm on 2.2.
The rom is not perfect, but it works very well for me so far. I went to cut on my screen and it was stuck at all black (buttons would lite up) so I just held in power to reboot.... first time I've noticed ANY issue with this rom. Odd, I think it had something to do with me going crazy backing out of the browser and then shutting down my screen.
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I have gotten that on quite a few roms including two versions of trigger and three stock builds. I get out of it by pressing the power button 3-5 times giving about 1-2 seconds between presses and it eventually came back.
I might try the 2.2 build out eventually.
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Dude, that makes me so freaking happy. Is there a reason he is not gracing us on XDA.. I loved that guy back in the day.
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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He is waiting for CM to be a better build than right now. He wont work with a TouchWiz base.
I loled when I asked him why he wasn't using a custom rom from TW and he said it sucked!
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I'm not a fan of putting anyones work down.. especially when it's free/
I once knew a dog by the name of Raphael Francisco Sanchez. He pooped in the same place everyday, and then walked through it like the dumb mutt he was. Over time the poop built up till eventually the dog could no longer run and play with all the other little doggies, and when the lawnmower came around that spring, Raphael Francisco Sanchez barked his last bark.
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I'm currently running cm7.1, and really love it. I'm also really curious about trying out the ics roms and don't know which one to try. has anyone run both? which one did you like most and why? also, if I do a nandroid backup, is that the same as a windows image backup? ...meaning I can reinstall cm7 and glitch kernel, then flash my nandroid backup and be right where I was before I changed anything?
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Yes you can restore a nandroid like you said as long as you are on the same ROM.
This is kind of an opinion, but I prefer Teamhacksung, as it is clean and bug-free.
ok cool. sorry about being in the wrong forum at first. so one for team hacksung, anyone else? I just want opinions as I don't think I have the time to try all the ics roms right now
aokp is by far the most solid ICS rom. its more how cyanogen use to be....lots of options to customise. THS cm9 is vanilla, meaning barebones.
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aokp is by far the most solid ICS rom. its more how cyanogen use to be....lots of options to customise. THS cm9 is vanilla, meaning barebones.
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+10!
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This subject is opinionated and the OP should install both for a day to determine what he likes better.
Personally I used AOKP for the last six months, Yesterday I switched to CM9 experimental Linaro Build.. In my views way better than aokp..
Gearrion said:
This subject is opinionated and the OP should install both for a day to determine what he likes better.
Personally I used AOKP for the last six months, Yesterday I switched to CM9 experimental Linaro Build.. In my views way better than aokp..
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Why?
i have the infuse but i started off using aokp switched to cm9 its been about a month.. goin back 2 aokp as of now cm9 isnt like cm7, i like tweaking and customizing as much as possible and i love the navigation bar aokp has..
Ok cool I think I'm about ready to try some out. One last question, I keep seeing things about how it's not easy to got back to cm7 from ics? Can someone give me some insight on this incase I don't like ics? Something with the different file types? I also want to keep my eh03 radio if I do end up going back to cm7
I'm now a little confused, after reading the guide for installing ROMS, in particular the ICS ones, arent all the ICS Roms based on what is stated- MTD CM9? So is there a difference aokp vs cm9? I guess what would be the large differnces between any two for example? Different kernels?
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I also want to keep my eh03 radio if I do end up going back to cm7
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Here check out this link to the guide for Installing a Rom/CWM recovery/Root or going back to Stock. Go to the fifth section. You can revert to stock gingerbread with EH03 radio from any rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070&highlight=odin
well i got impatient and went ahead and did it lol. i went with aokp 40.1 and devil kernel .79. the first try was a disaster, what seemed to work went straight to crash and reboot when waking from the lockscreen. i thought it was my oc i was messing with so i turned it back to stock volts and frequencies. low and behold it did it again but this time would not boot up, would not flash anything from recovery, would not format anything from recovery, it was totally bricked. i even tried reflashing cwm though odin and it was a no go.
finally after a few hrs of gathing info, i flashed the stock froyo rom and it unbricked it and i tried aokp again. this time i used aokp build 40, and devil kernel v.72 and everything is beautiful and works perfect, rock solid stability with 1200mhz multiplier oc, 110% fsb oc on liveoc totaling 1362mhz i think. the ics launchers suck and are laggy for me, i dunno why but go launcher is smoooootthhh and so is everything else on the phone. i cant find anything that doesnt work, im not regretting this or looking back at all, thanks a bunch for the help guys. im also pretty sure its snappier and quicker than cm7.2 was for me on my 1.3ghz overclock and glitch 13.1
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well i got impatient and went ahead and did it lol. i went with aokp 40.1 and devil kernel .79. the first try was a disaster, what seemed to work went straight to crash and reboot when waking from the lockscreen. i thought it was my oc i was messing with so i turned it back to stock volts and frequencies. low and behold it did it again but this time would not boot up, would not flash anything from recovery, would not format anything from recovery, it was totally bricked. i even tried reflashing cwm though odin and it was a no go.
finally after a few hrs of gathing info, i flashed the stock froyo rom and it unbricked it and i tried aokp again. this time i used aokp build 40, and devil kernel v.72 and everything is beautiful and works perfect, rock solid stability with 1200mhz multiplier oc, 110% fsb oc on liveoc totaling 1362mhz i think. the ics launchers suck and are laggy for me, i dunno why but go launcher is smoooootthhh and so is everything else on the phone. i cant find anything that doesnt work, im not regretting this or looking back at all, thanks a bunch for the help guys. im also pretty sure its snappier and quicker than cm7.2 was for me on my 1.3ghz overclock and glitch 13.1
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try devil_0.85, this build works the best on my device.
droidstyle said:
try devil_0.85, this build works the best on my device.
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will do, thanks
edit: im having a hard time finding that version, do you have a link?
http://android.encounterpc.com/stevespear426/tests/Devil3_0.85_fascinate_CFS_BLN_CMC_20120625.zip
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will do, thanks
edit: im having a hard time finding that version, do you have a link?
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http://android.encounterpc.com/stevespear426/tests/Devil3_0.85_fascinate_CFS_BLN_CMC_20120625.zip
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Is there a voodoo color version?
There is color options in the galaxy s settings menu.
Devil98.3AOKPMilestone6Test Fassy Unicorn!
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There is color options in the galaxy s settings menu.
Devil98.3AOKPMilestone6Test Fassy Unicorn!
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ive seen it but was a little wary of it lol. for those wondering and addicted to voodoo color... at first i was worried i would loose the deep color and gamma control that i have with voodoo color, but the device color options do a really good job with it and there is a gamma control and it works great, no washed out colors or anything of that nature. im pretty hardcore on my vivid colors so i have the gamma maxed out minus a tad of green but it looks great.. to me.
for the guy who originally mention v0.85, so far its working great, cleared cache, dalvik, and ran ultimate kernel cleaning script then installed and it seems to be running great. the only thing now is the long term stability test, over a week ive had zero freezes FCs, or any issues with .72, i hope i can get this with .85. it seems a little snappier and nandroid is working again. thanks a bunch for the link, a few hours of searching for it and google still didnt help me. ill get back to everyone on the stability of it for me, running 110% fsb oc on nstools and slightly undervolted. im sure theres a ton of info already on other threads but ill still report back. thanks guys
edit: im still having issues with bln, is there a quick fix with it? it worked right away with my botched install of 40.1 and .79 kernel, witch was completely unstable, but now on 40, and .85 its still not working, any ideas? also on first boot from cold soft keys were unresponsive but seem to be working now. im not complaining as i know there are newer versions of the devil kernel but im trying to find a very good balance of functionality and stability.
I was wondering if anyone could help me. I recently upgraded to a nexus and at that same time a friend of mine broke her phone, so I gave her my fascinate with AOKP M6 on it...but she's getting sick of the bugs. Since I really have no way of testing I was hoping someone could help me make the decision of putting either a TW ROM or the latest CM 10 nightly on the fascinate.
I've been keeping an eye of the CyanogenMod gerrit and it looks like Jt1134 has made some serious headway, but can anyone give me their educated opinion? (I'm already running the nightlies on my nexus so I'm more interested in device specific bugs)
Thanks if you can help, I just have no way to test and I don't want to piss off a bug intolerant girl. ^-^
CM10 nightly is my suggestion... personally I've never had any real issues with it. The Devil Kernel 1.6.1 has been working great, but sticking with the stock kernel could be good for future releases. I much prefer using Devil because of the performance tweaks, but your friend probably won't care.
The TW rom will give rock solid stability too, but honestly... CM10 is so fast and smooth I can't see why anyone would bother with a GB rom anymore... especially since CM10 is practically bug free.
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CM10 nightly is my suggestion... personally I've never had any real issues with it. The Devil Kernel 1.6.1 has been working great, but sticking with the stock kernel could be good for future releases. I much prefer using Devil because of the performance tweaks, but your friend probably won't care.
The TW rom will give rock solid stability too, but honestly... CM10 is so fast and smooth I can't see why anyone would bother with a GB rom anymore... especially since CM10 is practically bug free.
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Thanks for the suggestion, yeah CM 10 looks like a very good option at the moment because of the now built in updater.
I also just remembered she was asking about the colors being washed out compared to stock, does the default CM 10 kernel come with anything to enhance that or would I need to flash devil kernel with Voodoo color? (She made it seem like a bit of a big deal so I promised I'd look into it)
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Thanks for the suggestion, yeah CM 10 looks like a very good option at the moment because of the now built in updater.
I also just remembered she was asking about the colors being washed out compared to stock, does the default CM 10 kernel come with anything to enhance that or would I need to flash devil kernel with Voodoo color? (She made it seem like a bit of a big deal so I promised I'd look into it)
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Hmm that's a good question. I've never really messed with tweaking the colors to be honest, and I've always used the CMC (Cyanogenmod Color) version of Devil because the VC one gives me a weird negative image flash when coming out of sleep mode. I'm sure there are some apps that will adjust color that she could get from the market, no matter which kernel it is. I think I even remember looking for the app that adjusts Voodoo Color and couldn't for the life of me find it. Sorry I can't be more help, the colors were always vibrant enough for me so I never really cared to adjust them
edit: Well I did find some basic color calibration settings under System Settings > Device > Advanced > Color Tuning. Not sure if it's going to be what she's looking for, but it seems to be a built in feature for the rom itself, and separate from the kernel options. The devil config manager I'm using doesn't have any color tuning options at all.
The app you were looking for was probably Voodoo Sound, a color calibration option becomes available in it if you're on a VC enabled kernel. It doesn't really matter though, it looks like I'll be flashing Devil kernel anyway as I just read some reports of "screen jumpiness" on the stock kernel in the devil kernel thread.
I'm not really sure what that means but I'd rather just avoid it entirely.
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The app you were looking for was probably Voodoo Sound, a color calibration option becomes available in it if you're on a VC enabled kernel. It doesn't really matter though, it looks like I'll be flashing Devil kernel anyway as I just read some reports of "screen jumpiness" on the stock kernel in the devil kernel thread.
I'm not really sure what that means but I'd rather just avoid it entirely.
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Those issues are almost always from someone who 'dirty flashed' instead of doing a proper data wipe and clean install. I've run on the stock kernel many times never experiencing those issues. That said, I still prefer the Devil kernel but I can see a couple of problems with her using that... 1) If a newer Devil Kernel is released, will she know enough to flash it? 2) If CM10 gets another partition change, or something that will break Devil, and she updates it could cause a boot loop, and 3) If she's not into customs roms as much as you she might go into devil settings and cause a lot of trouble if she's 'unhappy' with the performance. Food for thought
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Those issues are almost always from someone who 'dirty flashed' instead of doing a proper data wipe and clean install. I've run on the stock kernel many times never experiencing those issues. That said, I still prefer the Devil kernel but I can see a couple of problems with her using that... 1) If a newer Devil Kernel is released, will she know enough to flash it? 2) If CM10 gets another partition change, or something that will break Devil, and she updates it could cause a boot loop, and 3) If she's not into customs roms as much as you she might go into devil settings and cause a lot of trouble if she's 'unhappy' with the performance. Food for thought
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Good points, I think I'll start her on stock kernel for a few days and go from there if she needs better performance/color control. Anyway, It's good to know the fascinate community is still awesome!
Thanks for your help.
I am curious to what bugs she has been having. I have been using AOKP since ICS build 28 with very few bugs if any throughout all the builds. I have been very pleased even with stock kernel as to how fast and responsive it is. I know CM to be good as well but prefer the cherry picks Steve spear has built into some of his releases
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I am curious to what bugs she has been having. I have been using AOKP since ICS build 28 with very few bugs if any throughout all the builds. I have been very pleased even with stock kernel as to how fast and responsive it is. I know CM to be good as well but prefer the cherry picks Steve spear has built into some of his releases
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Apparently the browser randomly stops loading web pages and has to be force killed, MMS don't always come through, and...there were a couple more but I can't remember them at all.
I was really rushed when I flashed her phone and I'm pretty sure some of the stuff I put on there was in mid-development. (the kernel)
I have not had any problems with any web pages. MS6 for ICS should be stable although I am using the showcase on cspire network. Unfortunately I do not have picture/ MMS messaging to speak to that, but I know it has been a problem on several releases due to not wiping before flashing
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I agree that MS6 should have been a lot more stable, but my recommendation stands... go with CM10, it's just plain better
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Hmm that's a good question. I've never really messed with tweaking the colors to be honest, and I've always used the CMC (Cyanogenmod Color) version of Devil because the VC one gives me a weird negative image flash when coming out of sleep mode. I'm sure there are some apps that will adjust color that she could get from the market, no matter which kernel it is. I think I even remember looking for the app that adjusts Voodoo Color and couldn't for the life of me find it. Sorry I can't be more help, the colors were always vibrant enough for me so I never really cared to adjust them
edit: Well I did find some basic color calibration settings under System Settings > Device > Advanced > Color Tuning. Not sure if it's going to be what she's looking for, but it seems to be a built in feature for the rom itself, and separate from the kernel options. The devil config manager I'm using doesn't have any color tuning options at all.
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i agree with this, for the colors i go there to the color tuning, just make sure you use a CMC kernel and not voodoo color. anyways my settings are 1.0 for red and blue, and .887 for green with all the gammas at -40. it looks amazing, vivid and sharp and not over saturated.
Wow that does look pretty good, did you just figure this out yourself or are there guides on how to calibrate?
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Wow that does look pretty good, did you just figure this out yourself or are there guides on how to calibrate?
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i was just messing around with the colors in there and kept working down the gamma since im a sucker for vivid and non washed out colors lol, i ended up with them all the way negative but found out it had a tad of a green tone so i just moved the green slider back to where it looked about right. it is no one way calibrated or anything, just the best i could make make it look to my eyes.
If your friend really just wants a stable ROM, AOKP M6 should be their best bet. Likely the issue is that the phone has been upgraded many times; the best way to ensure a clean install of AOKP is to flash to stock in Odin then flash other things progressively to get to ICS. This post provides a great overview of the process.
exzacklyright.blogspot .com/2012/01/how-to-flash-ics-on-verizon-samsung.html
If your follow those steps for your friend, the issues with the browser should disappear. The end result? A bug free rom that makes everyone happy. I personally wouldn't suggest upgrading to CM10 unless your friend really just wants to upgrade their phone periodically.
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If your friend really just wants a stable ROM, AOKP M6 should be their best bet. Likely the issue is that the phone has been upgraded many times; the best way to ensure a clean install of AOKP is to flash to stock in Odin then flash other things progressively to get to ICS. This post provides a great overview of the process.
exzacklyright.blogspot .com/2012/01/how-to-flash-ics-on-verizon-samsung.html
If your follow those steps for your friend, the issues with the browser should disappear. The end result? A bug free rom that makes everyone happy. I personally wouldn't suggest upgrading to CM10 unless your friend really just wants to upgrade their phone periodically.
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I appreciate the response, sadly those are pretty much the exact steps I took to flash the fascinate before I gave it to her. I really don't know what's up with it, but why do you suggest staying on ICS?
I'm running the CM10 nightlies on my gnexus and the only real bug I have is ringtones reset to the default within the first day after flashing, after that it's pretty flawless. Are there some other bugs on the fascinate that I should be aware of?
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I appreciate the response, sadly those are pretty much the exact steps I took to flash the fascinate before I gave it to her. I really don't know what's up with it, but why do you suggest staying on ICS?
I'm running the CM10 nightlies on my gnexus and the only real bug I have is ringtones reset to the default within the first day after flashing, after that it's pretty flawless. Are there some other bugs on the fascinate that I should be aware of?
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That's too bad... I'm very surprised that there are still issues!
I'm pretty sure the fascinate isn't on the officially supported device list for CM10, which means that more bugs could be present, but honestly I'm not terribly familiar with that ROM. For me personally, I think ICS might be better since the voice search is much faster and there's more storage space or apps, but that's just me.
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That's too bad... I'm very surprised that there are still issues!
I'm pretty sure the fascinate isn't on the officially supported device list for CM10, which means that more bugs could be present, but honestly I'm not terribly familiar with that ROM. For me personally, I think ICS might be better since the voice search is much faster and there's more storage space or apps, but that's just me.
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The fascinate has been receiving official nightly cm10 builds for over a month, and due to recent partition layout changes, there is more storage space available than even a stock ROM.
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As much as I loved AOKP ICS M6, CM10 just blows it away. It's the best JB rom I've ever run, and with Devil 1.6.1 it's a beast :good:
are there any pics of cm10 anywhere and does the camera and camcorder work? Gapps seperate?
This is based on the ROM joelZ9614 posted on June 27th.
It's deodexed and stripped of most Verizon apps and some HTC apps while keeping Sense.
This is different than the original release I had planned. This is close to the version I use since joelsZ9614's is coming.
This is PURE HTC stock. There's no themes, no EQS and little tweaks.
Xposed installer is included, use the MoDoCo ToolKit and other XPosed apps to make some of the usual mods.
Everything is working(?) but Zoe and Panoramic sweep.
This is VERIZON ONLY. It's been reported that MMS does not work with GSM.
Here's a few flashable additions: to the ROM:
HTC Music
HTC Calender
xLOUD
There's is now some tweaks included that I've tested but my init.d didn't make all the changes.
Recommend Trickster Mod Settings are:
Read Ahead Buffer Size: 384 (seems high but benchmarks the highest)
Deadline
fifo_batch: 8
front_merges: 1
read_expire: 30
write_expire: 250
writes_starved: 1
Conservative
down_threshold: 30
freq_step: 25
sampling_down_factor: 5
up_threshold: 60
Multicore Power Saving: 2
ALL thanks go to joelZ9614 for the ROM, crpalmer for the kernel, and zepplinrox for the supercharging.
New Link: http://www.adrive.com/public/VtDSSv/dlx_Sense5_070413.zip
md5: d9dc74de1ed3d78005391166562ee655
*There's been some cleaning inside the ROM. A wipe is NOT necessary, but if coming from the first ROM I posted, but I'd recommend formatting /system.
*This version also has less apps stripped since people seem to like apps I don't use.
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On hold. Jumped too soon, will be up sometime tomorrow.
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is this what i think it is>
Evilmonstertruck said:
is this what i think it is>
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More vaporware for the DNA!
It's a stripped version of the ROM Joel posted last week.
I deodexed, and got it to flash. His is coming soon so I pulled the link. If he gives permission I'll gladly post
for people wanting to give it a go.
Verizon and a lot of HTC apps are removed while still keeping Sense.
Mirrors or hosting will be helpful before hand.
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I'm posting early. JoelZ9614's ROM is coming. This is based on the ROM he posted last week.
It's deodexed and stripped of most Verizon apps and the HTC apps that <I> don't use while keeping Sense.
This is different than the original release I had planned. This is the version I use again, since joelsZ9614's is coming soon.
All credit goes to joelZ9614 and crpalmer. They've done the work and it's hard.
This is PURE HTC stock. Been using this for a couple days, everything is working but Zoe and Panoramic sweep.
Xposed installer is included, the MoDoCo ToolKit takes care of some of the usual mods.
With all that said here's the link: http://goo.gl/akLyz
If you like it and can mirror please do as i'm not a developer and this is the best hosting I could come up with without ads.
This has been a learning experience.
Developers should get more credit than they get. This stuff is hard, and even uploading is major hassle.
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Sounds great, will give it a test run
any screenshots?
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any screenshots?
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It's basically Sense 5 rom, nothing out of the ordinary, you can look at any other sense 5 rom's screen shot - it would be the same
What about smoothness and responsiveness? I can't use newt's sense 5 rom because it makes my phone feel extremely clunky..
Apparently I can't post a link. Don't know if I could put images in.
But as nimrodsv said it's pure. No theming at all.
I had no problem with newtoroot's ROM being laggy.
But it's been running well for me without any kernel tweaking yet.
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What about smoothness and responsiveness? I can't use newt's sense 5 rom because it makes my phone feel extremely clunky..
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I had the same feelings until I used Beaups kernel. No issues now. Actually running very smooth and excellent battery life.
rom116 said:
I had the same feelings until I used Beaups kernel. No issues now. Actually running very smooth and excellent battery life.
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I keep seeing posts where people say that the newt Rom is laggy. Ive been running it for about 2 weeks now and just flashed beaups kernal the other day but even before flashing that kernal I had zero issues with lag. In fact, I have not had a single issue at all since flashing this Rom. That's pre beaups kernal and post. Did I just get lucky somehow with a fluke flash that turned out to be beneficial? Am I the only person that has not experienced any lag?
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did nybody try Xposed framework?
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I keep seeing posts where people say that the newt Rom is laggy. Ive been running it for about 2 weeks now and just flashed beaups kernal the other day but even before flashing that kernal I had zero issues with lag. In fact, I have not had a single issue at all since flashing this Rom. That's pre beaups kernal and post. Did I just get lucky somehow with a fluke flash that turned out to be beneficial? Am I the only person that has not experienced any lag?
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Every phone is different. My phone hates overlclocking. If I run my phone over 1600 it reboots. No matter what kernel it is. So, maybe it is laggy on his phone.
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Don't try the Tablet ui . Obviously Sense lacks a tablet ui and bad things happen.
Evilmonstertruck said:
Every phone is different. My phone hates overlclocking. If I run my phone over 1600 it reboots. No matter what kernel it is. So, maybe it is laggy on his phone.
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This is the truth.. We all have the same hardware.. but there could be very subtle differences in something that could cause some of us to lag and others not.. Ran into the same issues when I had my Incredible 2 .. I was flawless with every rom, 99% of the time.. others weren't.. Just the way she goes..
at production, the CPU of the phone was labeled based on processing tolerances. there is slow, nominal, fast, and faster. each one reacts differently to OC and UV ect
My mobile network is saying disconnected after setup I can't seem to get it on even tryed wiping and reflashing any suggestions?
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My mobile network is saying disconnected after setup I can't seem to get it on even tryed wiping and reflashing any suggestions?
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Maybe try toggling airplane mode on and the back off.
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Tried that. Also full wipe and clean install and still nothing. Never had this issue before.
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