I'm partial to a 1Ghz kernel and Nottach's Wet Dream 1.4.3 with some minor adjustments on my end. But since I'm using a pretty much burnt out Gorilla Gadget 3500mAh battery, I haven't been able to get a full day of use out of my phone. I'm UV'ed and I keep my screen down to 25% brightness as well as using a custom battery saving profile that turns data off after 30minutes of innactivity and 15minutes during off-peak hours. Any suggestions or tweaks? Any tips will be well appreciated.
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A thread was started 3 hours prior that has the intention of solving issues like yours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488794
Are you trying to undermine the previous thread, one of which was started by a respected member of the forum?
This is either an honest mistake, and quite the coincidence, or you are trying to attenuate the other thread. Either way, a simple search would have led you to many discussions on battery life within these forums.
Neroga said:
I'm partial to a 1Ghz kernel and Nottach's Wet Dream 1.4.3 with some minor adjustments on my end. But since I'm using a pretty much burnt out Gorilla Gadget 3500mAh battery, I haven't been able to get a full day of use out of my phone. I'm UV'ed and I keep my screen down to 25% brightness as well as using a custom battery saving profile that turns data off after 30minutes of innactivity and 15minutes during off-peak hours. Any suggestions or tweaks? Any tips will be well appreciated.
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A thread was started 3 hours prior that has the intention of solving issues like yours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488794
Are you trying to undermine the previous thread, one of which was started by a respected member of the forum?
This is either an honest mistake, and quite the coincidence, or you are trying to attenuate the other thread. Either way, a simple search would have led you to many discussions on battery life within these forums.
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Not so. Notorious stated that he wanted to see results on battery life. Only a few people went into very little detail about the kind of set up they have. I'm not asking about specific ROMs or kernels but more along the lines of what people actually do to obtain better battery life in terms of setting, tweaks to build.prop, and such. If you'd have read the post correctly instead of skimming with the intent of bashing due to the thread title you'd have noticed this.
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Well, if you actually read his thread he wants to take in as much information regarding setup and configurations, what ROMs and kernels are used, which apps and how they're utilized (such as tasker), wireless settings (wifi, bluetooth, etc), and any tweaks implemented. Here is a qoute from his post:
"Hopefully, if people participate, we will be able to identify how people get great battery life and how some people get really bad battery life. Then we could compare personal configurations and see what settings/apps/tweaks affect battery - in a positive or negative way."
What I don't understand is how much difference do you actually see between your thread and his in terms of objectives? To me, that thread probably would have been a good place to start a conversation about your setup since you are using an extended battery and it would probably help the discussion on "calibration" for 3rd party batteries.
I apologize if you took my comments as a form of "bashing", that was not my intent. I did read your post and I was just trying to make a benevolent observation.
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Not so. Notorious stated that he wanted to see results on battery life. Only a few people went into very little detail about the kind of set up they have. I'm not asking about specific ROMs or kernels but more along the lines of what people actually do to obtain better battery life in terms of setting, tweaks to build.prop, and such. If you'd have read the post correctly instead of skimming with the intent of bashing due to the thread title you'd have noticed this.
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Hm. I see your point. My apologies. I was a little intoxicated, earlier. Ia there a way to close this thread?
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No need for you to apologize, after I re-read my original comment I can see how you could have took it negatively. It's very difficult to convey sarcasm and tone with just text and emoticons.
Either way, your issue is a good one to bring up (regarding 3rd party and extended batteries). What I would recommend is to use some sort of battery app that records statistics and use it for an entire charge cycle and then get some screenshots of your results to compare to results people are getting from the OEM battery. This way, more people can see the distinctions in percentage, mA and mV readings in alignment with what apps/settings you are using to see if your battery is as "burnt" as you think it is.
Here's one suggestion:
https://market.android.com/details?...eloper#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwMiwiY2NjNzEuYm13Il0.
No hard feelings and welcome to the forum(s).
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Hm. I see your point. My apologies. I was a little intoxicated, earlier. Ia there a way to close this thread?
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Aha an app I know well. I'll reinstall the pro version and post something in the morning. I can say right off the bat that the battery won't charge passed 3.9V. I have followed many guides in ways of recalibrating the battery and nothing. It reaches about 4,036mV at 100% and drops to around 3.9V as soon as it is unplugged.
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@live4nyy
Seriously STOP trolling and self moderating/ you could have simply reported his post instead of being a wise ass about it
And if there was a separate thread that the OP did not notice you could have simply linked it and ended it there, instead of being all condescending.Its this kind of talk that makes this forum an unfriendly place .
@Blueangel180
Trust me, I have questioned myself numerous times if I am overstepping any boundaries and "self-moderating". I completely understand where you're coming from so I sincerely apologize for that.
With that said, I genuinely want to help people in the forums, it just has become a hobby for me of recently. I usually spend a lot of my effort trying to help people with "low-level" issues since I'm not that knowledgeable on the "dev" side of things. But understand this, I try my best to be as amiable and constructive as possible when I do respond to queries such as this one.
I don't understand why you would suggest "reporting" this thread, there is nothing against the rules here. As for posting a link, I did. Also, while you are accusing me of condescension, you resort to name-calling and distasteful remarks.
Either way, I'll take your advice and I will attempt to be more concise and less judgmental.
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@live4nyy
Seriously STOP trolling and self moderating/ you could have simply reported his post instead of being a wise ass about it
And if there was a separate thread that the OP did not notice you could have simply linked it and ended it there, instead of being all condescending.Its this kind of talk that makes this forum an unfriendly place .
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Yesterday, I got a notice on my Dell Streak says there is a Froyo 2.2.2 update available.
Should I do that? I have no complaints about my current 2.2 version.
Completely up to you. It's your phone after all.
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Completely up to you. It's your phone after all.
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Okaaaaay.... let me rephrase that.
What would be the advantages of updating from 2.2 to 2.2.2?
Disadvantages? Bugs?
Let me rephrase it then, plenty of threads about 351 and other new roms for you to rummage through. Better get cracking. I find 351 to be a bit buggy but others love it. People here won't spoon feed you so use what has been posted and make a decision.
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Okaaaaay.... let me rephrase that.
What would be the advantages of updating from 2.2 to 2.2.2?
Disadvantages? Bugs?
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Im with you, buddy. I am totally ok with 2.2 and see no need for 2.2.2 if its primary update is the stage home screens. I have Launcher Pro Plus and dont care about the Dell Stage screen. I also heard that oo.voo constantly runs in the background. I dont need another back end process to constantly manually stop, so that it sill autostart again. Some have said sound quality issue. There suppose to be enhanced email functions but I bought Enhanced Email from the developers site directly and it works fine. I am not sure what Gallery updates are but im ok with the current.
Hey William, if you come across other items, pro or con , let me know too. Thanks, bud.
Remember some time ago Google removed some 50 apps from the market because they had a malware payload? The main difference between 2.2 and 2.2.2 is that Google has closed the exploit which allowed that malware to work.
To me, that is a compelling enough reason to upgrade. However, if you don't, every so often Google may force feed you a malware removal tool. But, as said earlier, it's your choice as to whether you want to upgrade or not.
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People here won't spoon feed you so use what has been posted and make a decision.
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A bit of a smartazz aren't you?
What good is a forum where you can't ask questions without feeling stupid?
I don't do that on my www.CorvetteC3.com forum that I founded and run, that has been around longer than this one at 10 years. We start off new member telling them that there is no such thing as a stupid question and if it has been asked before, so what... ask away, the members here are friendly.
I've been here over a month now and getting tired of seeing this kind of attitude telling people to use search instead of answering the question or leaving a link. If that is the case, we really don't need a forum do we?
I've found on my forum after awhile, new members learn on their own to use search,
I wasn't talking about you, Rico or Strephon and thanks very much for your replies.
Hey no prob, William. I agree with you. I dont pay those sort of responses the time of day. You are correct, some reply as if its their personal site. Strep made a good point for updating when it comes to the Google malware update. Thanks for this sting.
About the only time I will actually tell someone to go search is when they ask the same question on multiple threads in the same forum, just because the threads happen to be related. To me, such behavior is childish.
So, I have done it myself. I'm not proud of it, but at the same time cannot change my frame of mind. I simply don't have patience for stupidity, and spamming the message boards simply because people aren't helping out as fast as the poster might want is stupid.
William, for the most part the people on this forum are decent. You and I seem to have managed to find that one person that rubs us the wrong way. In your case, it's someone being a smartass. In mine, it's someone providing a solution that actually ISN'T a solution. It almost makes me wish there was an ignore list feature on the site.
EDIT: Found the ignore list feature on the site. *LOL*
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
About the only time I will actually tell someone to go search is when they ask the same question on multiple threads in the same forum, just because the threads happen to be related. To me, such behavior is childish.
So, I have done it myself. I'm not proud of it, but at the same time cannot change my frame of mind. I simply don't have patience for stupidity, and spamming the message boards simply because people aren't helping out as fast as the poster might want is stupid.
William, for the most part the people on this forum are decent. You and I seem to have managed to find that one person that rubs us the wrong way. In your case, it's someone being a smartass. In mine, it's someone providing a solution that actually ISN'T a solution. It almost makes me wish there was an ignore list feature on the site.
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Ahhh... your right. There are more nice people here than not.
I gotta get a thicker skin. Maybe I used that up with patience for members on my forum. LOL
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A bit of a smartazz aren't you?
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I think it's rather odd that you have your own forum where you say people eventually learn to search yet here you didn't bother doing so. Did everything you learn on every other forum before, escape you right before coming here?
I bricked my phone last week yet I didn't make a thread asking what to do. I searched and searched til I exhausted all the solutions. I had dozens of threads to go through, you have a few at most. mine was a much more urgent matter than yours, but I knew it was covered over and over.
Maybe its cause I used to get flamed for not searching when I was younger but now when people do that I just see laziness and a "I'm too good to search" attitude.
Not saying thats whats happening, though I dont know you so I cant say.
Either way, apologies for offending you.
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I think it's rather odd that you have your own forum where you say people eventually learn to search yet here you didn't bother doing so. Did everything you learn on every other forum before, escape you right before coming here?
I bricked my phone last week yet I didn't make a thread asking what to do. I searched and searched til I exhausted all the solutions. I had dozens of threads to go through, you have a few at most. mine was a much more urgent matter than yours, but I knew it was covered over and over.
Maybe its cause I used to get flamed for not searching when I was younger but now when people do that I just see laziness and a "I'm too good to search" attitude.
Not saying thats whats happening, though I dont know you so I cant say.
Either way, apologies for offending you.
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Yes I did a search and couldn't find what I was looking for with my particular question.
Searching XDA for "2.2.2 difference" gets you this on the 3 or 4th page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050077&highlight=difference+2.2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13278734&postcount=20
Googling "2.2.2 difference" gets you pages worth of info.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-android-2-2-1-and-vs-android-2-2-2/
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/update-your-nexus-one-to-android-2-2-2/
Since 2.2.2 is a platform specific update and not device specific update, you didn't have to limit your search to just the streak section.
Thanks for the links. I did see some of those. In my post I was more after personal opinions of those who have went from 2.2 to 2.2.2. Wanted to see their thoughts on it.
As for the members on my Corvette forum, most of them are between 40-60 and many don't know how to search or are too lazy to, (retires you know).
I'm 58 and a bit lazy sometimes myself.
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Thanks for the links. I did see some of those. In my post I was more after personal opinions of those who have went from 2.2 to 2.2.2. Wanted to see their thoughts on it.
As for the members on my Corvette forum, most of them are between 40-60 and many don't know how to search or are too lazy to, (retires you know).
I'm 58 and a bit lazy sometimes myself.
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I understand. My shop teacher used to be a C4 owner and last I saw him had a C5 ZO6. I used to go to shows with him a lot and yeah, most of the guys were old.....guys.
Plus searching for 5-10 minutes usually gets you more answers, quicker than checking in on your post/thread for hours/days anyway.
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Plus searching for 5-10 minutes usually gets you more answers, quicker than checking in on your post/thread for hours/days anyway.
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Actually, both are beneficial, a couple threads/posts were very helpful and searching here and googling found more answers. Combine them all, you get a lot of different views. I like as much info I can get.
The update isn't a true 2.2.2 update. I received/did it a couple of days ago. it's still 2.2, I was told that there must be some a typo or some such on the web page, but my phone still shows 2.2. FWIW the battery seems to last a bit longer, but the 3G reception doesn't seem quite as strong. YMMV
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066310
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065434
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The update isn't a true 2.2.2 update. I received/did it a couple of days ago. it's still 2.2, I was told that there must be some a typo or some such on the web page, but my phone still shows 2.2. FWIW the battery seems to last a bit longer, but the 3G reception doesn't seem quite as strong. YMMV
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066310
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065434
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Did you get notified of this via your streak?
Why does my Wi-Fi scan every 5 seconds?
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Evidently the scanning is not frequent unless you are in the wifi settings screen, where it is assumed that you want to change settings.
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Why does my Wi-Fi scan every 5 seconds?
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So that you can actually have an up-to-date list in the Settings screen?
Don't you think it's a safe assumption that when a user enters the Settings screen, they want to change networks, and the scan rate should be changed from the default to "as fast as possible" while they're there?
Sounds like a fair assessment.. sorry for being nubby. Had this thing like 4 hours.
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yes, the wifi will scan more frequently while you are in the settings menu.
Just to warn you ahead of time before you get flamed by someone.....use the search function. This question has been asked millions of times and this info is well documented in many threads.
with that being said, welcome! enjoy the phone!
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I also noticed this and was trying to edit my build prop to:
wifi.supplicant scan interval =15 or whatever #...but it doesn't seem to work as it did on captivate custom roms.
I don't really see why people worry about wifi scanning intervals that much. I see more battery life when connected to wifi than using cell service (might be because of my 1-2 bars), and this phone is actually slow at updating out of the menu because I'm already down my street before it finally disconnects me from my wifi when I'm driving.
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I also noticed this and was trying to edit my build prop to:
wifi.supplicant scan interval =15 or whatever #...but it doesn't seem to work as it did on captivate custom roms.
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Not sure what the proper setting is, but 15 is VERY low. As I said - this setting is ignored when you're in the wifi settings menu, because it's assumed that if you're there you want to change networks.
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I don't really see why people worry about wifi scanning intervals that much. I see more battery life when connected to wifi than using cell service (might be because of my 1-2 bars), and this phone is actually slow at updating out of the menu because I'm already down my street before it finally disconnects me from my wifi when I'm driving.
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Yup. Increasing the scan interval will improve battery life, however, I'm not sure what the logic for disconnecting is, so increasing it might hurt the time to disconnect in a situation like you describe.
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yes, the wifi will scan more frequently while you are in the settings menu.
Just to warn you ahead of time before you get flamed by someone.....use the search function. This question has been asked millions of times and this info is well documented in many threads.
with that being said, welcome! enjoy the phone!
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Not to sound rude but i tried that.. Search in mobile xda premium totally sucks..
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Not to sound rude but i tried that.. Search in mobile xda premium totally sucks..
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Just because you are using a crippled app isn't an excuse. Don't post until you've done some reading and searching from a PC.
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Just because you are using a crippled app isn't an excuse. Don't post until you've done some reading and searching from a PC.
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I second that. In fact you can open the thread to a browser from xda app so you can easily use search functionality from the web.
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I reflashed my device with cwm 5.0.2.3 after installing some recent updates. I just noticed that my wifi no longer works. Would a newer version of cwm restore my wifi, or is something else causing it to malfunction?
try resetting cache, factory, etc, first. then reboot
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Wow you guys are a tough crowd. Its no wonder you spend all your time on the forums.. Your social skills are pitiful.
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we're not a tough crowd. we just want the forums to be as clean as possible and offer helpful advice to those who need/ask for it.
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And yet your bumping a 3 month old thread...
Genius...
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Is it against the rules to bump an old thread? I think its not because im providing real help, or attemtping
5-15 (google) is ungodly bad... Set it to 100... 200... Turn it off? Why scan automatically?...please not 5...also the constant refresh feature people here assume is nice is actually a big waste of battery and manual searches are what i do with that patched out.
When you turn radio off it goes straight it off... I think i read that this interval also shuts off the radio? No. -edited (wrong info)- also in newer versions google flat out scans wifi even when wifi is off. Paranoid is good with google. The only problem i can imagine with autoscans off is problems with googles heavy reliance on "auto wifi scans" as their (quick messy gps)...So delete that
Also... Cell tower internet uses alot more battery than wifi.
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Location services uses wifi access points to help speed up location lock with gps/glonass as the positions of GPS satellites can be estimated with a general location. Higher count will probably result in a longer gps lock time, and reduce the performance of location services that google provides. If you don't want/need this service, than disable it. When Wi-Fi is off, it does turn off the radio.
You learn something better by struggling and trying to search for yourself instead of having the answer just given to you like candy. While users on this forum provide help for free to those that need it, if the answer is already somewhere on the forum and it only takes a bit of searching to find it, people will backlash at you and question why you don't search in the first place when it clearly says in multiple places to search before you post.
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Closed, Cleaned and Re-opened.
Please refrain from any more negative comments and trolling.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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Closed, Cleaned and Re-opened.
Please refrain from any more negative comments and trolling.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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My comment looks untouched, why does it say "MOD EDIT" unless i also posted about how people on xda flame noobs. Im quite sure i dont break rules since ive been using xda since it started. But sorry if i did.
Also you should of edited my bad data. bad data hurts alot more than other things imo lol
Again im actually sorry if i broke the rules.... But bad data is much worse in my brain lol
@penguin logic yeah i know about all that, in fact somewhere after 100 alot of those google services break. But its all opinion. I rather use my gps. When i say my gps i mean that thing that doesn't need internet whatsoever and can in fact place you perfectly on cached maps. I hate so much what google does with wifi but you are so right that this is totally my bias.
And about your other statement: please pm me what you wrote lol, because what stryke edited might be wrong. But from what i read you are totally right again. But alot of things can factor into why people create threads like this are created. And i actually enjoyed reading it and alot of times i CANNOT STAND people spamming threads with stuff like "go search man" or "why are you posting this repeat"
Seriously sometimes they can just say "no" or "set scan interval to 90" or something but instead they post what i see as spam. Moderators can and should deal with threads that should not exist.
Edit: I never troll, i hope you weren't saying i was trolling.... ..
The content edited from the posts was inciteful and disrespectful, hence why it was removed. After reviewing the rest of the thread, and seeing that a necro-post revived it long enough to become a feeding ground for flaming, I think this thread has run its course. Any further questions about moderator actions should be taken to PM, open forum is never the place for this. Ever.
Thread Closed.
Hey guys, I have been on xda for quite some time now and I have seen many such threads on battery life optimization configs. But I am always at loss when I need to refer to such threads in a summary fashion.
So I came up with this Google Docs form.
After couple of entries, the form will help draw a better picture of what configs are turning out better in general as it generates all sorts of awesome pie charts based on your entries.
Let me know if you want any entry in the form to be added, or any other kind of suggestion. You can do that here, or in the last field of that form.
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(1) F O R M <- Enter your data here
(2) Analytics Page <- Check out cool pie charts that sums up everybody's data
(3) Spreadsheet View <- Pure info, useful if you want to see what people entered in "Other" fields in the form; the Analytics page won't go into that much detail
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Data as of 02/26/2012 1pm EST
Updates, few notes, and more
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02/26/2012
- Added 2 non-mandatory fields. Fill them if you know their values: Approx time spent using your phone as a phone? and Approx time spent using your phone *actively* with screen off?
02/23/2012
- Set default form fields to useful values. Earlier all unfilled fields defaulted to "Other" which skewed the charts on Analytics page. Now that's solved
- Added custom fields in power saving apps (JKay Mod, GreenPower)
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(1) I will maintain the spreadsheet regularly so that it has only relevant info. I see that some users enter just junk data to check out how the data entry in the form works. That's cool. But I will remove such entries.
(2) Even if you have already made an entry in this form, you can of course do it again. In case you want your old entry to be removed, just let me know by replying in this thread and I will remove it. Otherwise it doesn't hurt keeping the old entry in the spreadsheet. People can probably learn by diff'ing between the two (or more) entries and see what factors helped improve battery life. (Such differential analysis will be very difficult in 'other' battery life/screen capture threads.
(3) I will try to keep on adding more stuff to the form. So feel free to make a new entry now and then (probably every 2 weeks or once a month) even if you have done it earlier. You can request (as I said above) removal of your older entry. You can mention the row number of the entry (from the spreadsheet view) you want me to remove.
(4) The survey will help in fairer comparison if entries are made when your battery is closer to dying than not. Example: Enter your data when you have <20% battery life.
PS: Thanks Red for making this post the second post in this thread, I can now make a good use of it.
This is very useful, id recommend it
This is insanely organized. Amazing work from the OP.
Just added my info, this is great! Love all the info it provides! Adding to my list of subscribed threads.
why wouldn't there be a section that asks what apps people run? There are plenty of other apps that do background syncing and need to run more often than others. I would say that's a pretty important factor that this doesn't touch on. Truth is, everyone's going to be different. Everyone uses their phone differently, running different apps. People who can't put their phones down are undoubtedly going to have worse battery life. Some people have great battery life on one rom, while some on the same rom have horrible battery life. The user themself is the most important factor on battery life.
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why wouldn't there be a section that asks what apps people run? There are plenty of other apps that do background syncing and need to run more often than others. I would say that's a pretty important factor that this doesn't touch on.
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I thought about that but it's not easy to collect stats on that. I could add about 100's of apps in the form for people to tick off.. but then that will void the purpose of this form. Who is going to type/tick off all the apps they have installed?
I have already added the major known sources of battery draining apps in the last section: Google Talk, Latitude, .. There are many other battery draining apps that I have frozen on my phone that I did not add to the form: Facebook (I just access it from browser, the GUI is the same), Kik, G+. But this list is not definitive, adding such apps to the list will simply lengthen the form, thus demotivating people from entering any data at all. If people want to add such stuff, they are free to add that in that last and the only paragraph field in the form.
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Truth is, everyone's going to be different. Everyone uses their phone differently, running different apps. People who can't put their phones down are undoubtedly going to have worse battery life. Some people have great battery life on one rom, while some on the same rom have horrible battery life. The user themself is the most important factor on battery life.
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I agree with you. The result of this analysis is that people would be guided to try something new to improve their battery life (which they would have never heard of before). Taking my personal case, I actually crossed 1day mark without charging my phone for the very first time after I installed GreenPower. I did everything that GreenPower does using extensive Llama events but that wasn't that battery efficient. These statistics DO NOT guarantee in any way you will be able to achieve the same results, but at the least you can try.
jazzboyrules said:
I thought about that but it's not easy to collect stats on that. I could add about 100's of apps in the form for people to tick off.. but then that will void the purpose of this form. Who is going to type/tick off all the apps they have installed?
I have already added the major known sources of battery draining apps in the last section: Google Talk, Latitude, .. There are many other battery draining apps that I have frozen on my phone that I did not add to the form: Facebook (I just access it from browser, the GUI is the same), Kik, G+. But this list is not definitive, adding such apps to the list will simply lengthen the form, thus demotivating people from entering any data at all. If people want to add such stuff, they are free to add that in that last and the only paragraph field in the form.
I agree with you. The result of this analysis is that people would be guided to try something new to improve their battery life (which they would have never heard of before). Taking my personal case, I actually crossed 1day mark without charging my phone for the very first time after I installed GreenPower. I did everything that GreenPower does using extensive Llama events but that wasn't that battery efficient. These statistics DO NOT guarantee in any way you will be able to achieve the same results, but at the least you can try.
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Right on, man. I got you. Not trying cause trouble or anything. I get damn good battery life and I'm a moderate to heavy user. I have a charger in my office at work, and I also put it on the charger at home every night when I go to bed. Oh, and I got a car charger. A little overkill, but I never have to worry about battery life.
edit: i may fill it out a little later when I have more time. Not cause I need it, but to help you gather info.
jazzboyrules said:
I thought about that but it's not easy to collect stats on that. I could add about 100's of apps in the form for people to tick off.. but then that will void the purpose of this form. Who is going to type/tick off all the apps they have installed?
I have already added the major known sources of battery draining apps in the last section: Google Talk, Latitude, .. There are many other battery draining apps that I have frozen on my phone that I did not add to the form: Facebook (I just access it from browser, the GUI is the same), Kik, G+. But this list is not definitive, adding such apps to the list will simply lengthen the form, thus demotivating people from entering any data at all. If people want to add such stuff, they are free to add that in that last and the only paragraph field in the form.
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Agreed, and apps are incredibly too variable to include.
Thread cleaned up and my data is entered.
Good job on the nice collaboration of data.
Thanks Red! And thanks to everyone for supporting this effort
I take back what I said about this, this is far more than a battery life thread, nice work I'll enter my stuff later
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Nick281051 said:
I take back what I said about this, this is far more than a battery life thread, nice work I'll enter my stuff later
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I know this is just a forum, but it takes guts to stay stuff like that. I respect that.
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treyvaporizer said:
I know this is just a forum, but it takes guts to stay stuff like that. I respect that.
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I agree. But sometimes people need to look at things and check it out before commenting. Not pointing fingers..just in general
Thanks Nick!
+1 to what treyvaporizer said, and
@jasvncnt1 It happens, we are all family now
I am glad that more people are helping me out build that spreadsheet.
jazzboyrules said:
Thanks Nick!
+1 to what treyvaporizer said, and
@jasvncnt1 It happens, we are all family now
I am glad that more people are helping me out build that spreadsheet.
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LOL of course. Like I said wasn't pointing fingers. Its all good. We are all here for the same reason.
I dont want to start a new thread, so I rather just ask in here since it's along the same lines. With the config in my sig, so far I'm at 9hrs on battery, with 1.5 hrs screen on time and I'm sitting at 60%. I've done some undervolting, I believe I ended up at -75mV at each step. Would you consider this good battery life? I don't have a problem with it, though if I could get more, I certainly wouldn't mind.
PS, not trying to steal the thread, just want some opinions!
Battery life aholics unite...xD
K Rich said:
I dont want to start a new thread, so I rather just ask in here since it's along the same lines. With the config in my sig, so far I'm at 9hrs on battery, with 1.5 hrs screen on time and I'm sitting at 60%. I've done some undervolting, I believe I ended up at -75mV at each step. Would you consider this good battery life? I don't have a problem with it, though if I could get more, I certainly wouldn't mind.
PS, not trying to steal the thread, just want some opinions!
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I think that the battery life is good but it can get better. You need to check how much the battery drains overnight if you don't keep it plugged in. Also, use the phone normally till the battery life is in single digits and then compare with what people using different configs get (in that spreadsheet). That should give you a general idea of whether or not you can get more time without charge.
Again, the battery life is dependent on a lot of parameters not covered in that spreadsheet, but whatever is covered should help you at least improve on what you have right now.
Well, I flashed the stock CM7 kernel last night, and without any under volting, its not as good, but close to what I was getting with under volting and Siyah .12 so tomorrow I'm gonna under volt the stock CM7 kernel and see what I can get. Plus, using the touch recovery is pretty fun!
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i accidently flashed the 235pudding in my photon. its showing svf:108:1:2 failed to boot 3
i realized i flashed it after using pudding, and not reading the 235pudding derppudding difference. i dont know why i even have it in my PC in the first place.
any help? i have a flight to miami tommorro
Ok,because you asked. HaHA Ha uuu... You could try this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573727 don't hold your breath though, you just have flashed your way into the Electrify lock-dum. Welcome. make yourself comfortable; it may be awhile.
it doesnt go to fastboot or recovery or anything, just defaults to RSD
it wont charge, which wont allow me to flash it. just gunna go to the store and replace it
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it doesnt go to fastboot or recovery or anything, just defaults to RSD
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Have you tried pwr+vol up+camera bttn to get into fast boot? That should work but not if your battery is dead
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That file really needs to be removed from that sticky post, mainly because it is USELESS and has screwed up way too many phones.
Lightsword1942 said:
That file really needs to be removed from that sticky post, mainly because it is USELESS and has screwed up way too many phones.
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Maybe it's time for some new moderators lol
Google talk me for help or question. @ [email protected]
Just jimmy a USB cord. Red wire positive on battery black negative. Just tape the exposed wires to the battery as suck. Plug in. Wait 30 min. Rsd then sbf back to stock.
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brandonfranck said:
Just jimmy a USB cord. Red wire positive on battery black negative. Just tape the exposed wires to the battery as suck. Plug in. Wait 30 min. Rsd then sbf back to stock.
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or you could just goto radio shack or online and get a battery charger
but im sure replacing it would be easier
http://www.google.com/products/cata...X&ei=r-GtT5ejAYTW2AXvvazpCA&ved=0CIQCEPICMAM#
valentinoh said:
Maybe it's time for some new moderators lol
Google talk me for help or question. @ [email protected]
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In response to your comment, you need to understand a few things. Most moderators have more then 1 forum to police. Typically each moderator has between 4-10 forums.
Moderators do not look at each and every thread or post, every single day. It's impossible considering it's a volunteer job, and most Mods have jobs and families. And there really shouldn't be a need to on most occasions if people "behave" themselves.
Nor do most mods know a lot about the devices they are assigned to enough to be called an expert in that device. There's no need, as most have dev of their own, and know a lot of the practices which are similar.
With mods, roms or hacks, if the program causes more issues than usual, it needs to be brought to a Mod's attention. If it isn't then the responsibility lies on the users of the forum for not reporting it. As I stated, it's not our job to look at every individual post.
Reporting a post or thread is pretty simple. There's a "report post" in each post title bar. Also, in each main forum, the mods are listed at the bottom right of the page.
As with this "pudding" thread, it was only reported this morning as far as I know. Also remember, a lot of bricked devices, are also due to not following instructions, and not necessarily the hack or app. But if the app bricks devices right and left, it needs to be brought to a mods attention. Not just post useless comments in the thread.
So the responsibility of reporting these things, lies with the users of the forum. If it's not reported, then nothing happens.
Thanks for understanding this.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
In response to your comment, you need to understand a few things. Most moderators have more then 1 forum to police. Typically each moderator has between 4-10 forums.
Moderators do not look at each and every thread or post, every single day. It's impossible considering it's a volunteer job, and most Mods have jobs and families. And there really shouldn't be a need to on most occasions if people "behave" themselves.
Nor do most mods know a lot about the devices they are assigned to enough to be called an expert in that device. There's no need, as most have dev of their own, and know a lot of the practices which are similar.
With mods, roms or hacks, if the program causes more issues than usual, it needs to be brought to a Mod's attention. If it isn't then the responsibility lies on the users of the forum for not reporting it. As I stated, it's not our job to look at every individual post.
Reporting a post or thread is pretty simple. There's a "report post" in each post title bar. Also, in each main forum, the mods are listed at the bottom right of the page.
As with this "pudding" thread, it was only reported this morning as far as I know. Also remember, a lot of bricked devices, are also due to not following instructions, and not necessarily the hack or app. But if the app bricks devices right and left, it needs to be brought to a mods attention. Not just post useless comments in the thread.
So the responsibility of reporting these things, lies with the users of the forum. If it's not reported, then nothing happens.
Thanks for understanding this.
MD
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Makes perfect sense.
Google talk me for help or question. @ [email protected]
valentinoh said:
Makes perfect sense.
Google talk me for help or question. @ [email protected]
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Thanks!
Really, we mods rely on the more experienced users to help. ie: I have no idea which kernels for the Photon are GPL compliant for example. I would hope that the more experienced users would know and report them. Yes, it happens quite often
And one more thing, if a mod closes or deletes a thread, or assigns infraction points, a user "can" send a PM to that mod and argue their position. Sometimes, it's more of a misunderstanding.
MD
Hi guys ..
I have something weird and i want to ask
My batt sgs3 when charged to 100% in a few second it will become 99% and on a minute it will become 98% and 97% .....and very fast drop ..
But when in 70% if u want drop it to 40% its normal drop rate .. not very fast ...(for me )
Why ?
Please help me i need this phone for my work.. so lowbat on a work is a critical matter ..
Here is the screenshot of my batt usage
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You first need to put this in Q&A then you need to wipe battery stats and recalibrate your battery....
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speedyjay said:
You first need to put this in Q&A then you need to wipe battery stats and recalibrate your battery....
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Firstly wiping battery stats is useless. You can go google and check it out yourself.
And OP maybe take a look at this thread. It may be a different phone but usage is pretty similar.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878828
From what I remember the s3 is designed to display 99% when fully charged it only displays 100% when a charger is connected. Unless you have a custom ROM with it being displayed otherwise, in that case there are countless battery threads here but start with better battery stats
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unholygid said:
Firstly wiping battery stats is useless. You can go google and check it out yourself.
And OP maybe take a look at this thread. It may be a different phone but usage is pretty similar.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1878828
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How the hell you came to that conclusion I don't know....every cycle is stored on your phone and by wiping the stored cycles, your battery is ultimately recalibrated! You just need to keep to a schedule, don't charge your phone if it doesn't need charging, and run your battery flat say once a week....also wipe your battery stats before and after flashing a new ROM....
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speedyjay said:
... then you need to wipe battery stats and recalibrate your battery....
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speedyjay said:
How the hell you came to that conclusion I don't know....every cycle is stored on your phone and by wiping the stored cycles, your battery is ultimately recalibrated! ....also wipe your battery stats before and after flashing a new ROM....
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(portions of the quotes removed.)
When I saw your first post (in the first quote here), I was going to politely respond that the entire MYTH about wiping battery stats has been debunked and even point you to a few places you could read about it. Then I read that someone already responded with that information, and your not so polite reply to that person. So, instead of a polite reply, I think something a bit stronger is in order...
You People who post like that are an idiot. Plain and simple. It's one thing to be misinformed about something and to share that misinformation with others in an attempt to help them. It's quite another to be misinformed and to refuse to accept correct information and then to CONTINUE preaching that misinformation.
I'll save you people who post this garbage the effort of actually checking your information before spewing it and tell you from FIRST HAND information that "wiping the battery stats" has absolutely NOTHING to do with the so-called "calibration" of a battery in an android device. The "battery stats" file is actually cleared by android itself each and every time you remove your device from the charger. The kernel doesn't reference this file (or any other file in the /data partition.)
So, what does that file contain? Go into settings and tap the battery label. See that nice graph and the list of apps? THAT is what is in the battery stats file. You'll Anyone with half a brain can find a detailed breakdown of the same information with an app such as better battery stats.
If you're people with any clue how to exist on this earth are willing to actually put forth any effort whatsoever to check this out, you they can find postings from google engineers and several others. I'll be nice and save you these people some effort. How about a post from an actual google employee who works on the android system for a living?
https://plus.google.com/u/0/1050519...dVxPT#105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
If, for some reason, you these bad excuses for intelligent life forms aren't able to read that post (maybe it's too complex to read for a simpleton who likes to spread false information), here are links to several well known android websites which refer to it:
http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
If you anyone really gave a damn about giving accurate information, you they could also download the full android source code and actually see what the file is used for, when it's used, etc.
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Note to the moderators: Yes, this might be "slightly" over the top. However, this forum is still called "xda-developers" and this is a development topic being answered by someone who is, obviously, both clueless and unwilling to learn. Isn't there a video that new users have to watch that basically tells people like that to just go away?
Edit: Updated so that "it's not aimed at an individual but so it's a general message." Hopefully the moderators will pardon my effort - I'm only a poor dumb American and we're only taught "street english" instead of proper Queen's English.
Well said!!!
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speedyjay said:
How the hell you came to that conclusion I don't know....every cycle is stored on your phone and by wiping the stored cycles, your battery is ultimately recalibrated! You just need to keep to a schedule, don't charge your phone if it doesn't need charging, and run your battery flat say once a week....also wipe your battery stats before and after flashing a new ROM....
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Im too lazy to explain why wiping batt stats is useless and the harm of draining your battery flat so often.
But i only got 3 words for u. Which is " L. O . L"
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my battery stays at 100% even half an hour if i phone is in standby, en a few minutes of normal use and then it drops to 99%. stock JB.
garyd9 said:
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When I saw your first post (in the first quote here), I was going to politely respond that the entire MYTH about wiping battery stats has been debunked and even point you to a few places you could read about it. (...)
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(Quote edited for the sake of vertical space )
Lol, I was so expecting this reaction from someone. Great insight about the topic right there, I hope that speedyjay finds it helpful.
About the issue the OP is talking about. I've been through quite a few stock ROMs and everyone showed 100% after a full charge for me. If the device goes to deep sleep asap, it lasts a considerable amount of time in such status before dropping to 99%.
Maybe you have some rogue service running? Did you tried BetterBatteryStats to get a good report?
Pearlzt said:
Hi guys ..
I have something weird and i want to ask
My batt sgs3 when charged to 100% in a few second it will become 99% and on a minute it will become 98% and 97% .....and very fast drop ..
But when in 70% if u want drop it to 40% its normal drop rate .. not very fast ...(for me )
Why ?
Please help me i need this phone for my work.. so lowbat on a work is a critical matter ..
Here is the screenshot of my batt usage
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Just throw your Battery out of Window, problem solved.
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the message about searching, and posting accurate info is quite valid. i'm amused by your edit as i hope others will be.
garyd9 said:
(portions of the quotes removed.)
When I saw your first post (in the first quote here), I was going to politely respond that the entire MYTH about wiping battery stats has been debunked and even point you to a few places you could read about it. Then I read that someone already responded with that information, and your not so polite reply to that person. So, instead of a polite reply, I think something a bit stronger is in order...
You People who post like that are an idiot. Plain and simple. It's one thing to be misinformed about something and to share that misinformation with others in an attempt to help them. It's quite another to be misinformed and to refuse to accept correct information and then to CONTINUE preaching that misinformation.
I'll save you people who post this garbage the effort of actually checking your information before spewing it and tell you from FIRST HAND information that "wiping the battery stats" has absolutely NOTHING to do with the so-called "calibration" of a battery in an android device. The "battery stats" file is actually cleared by android itself each and every time you remove your device from the charger. The kernel doesn't reference this file (or any other file in the /data partition.)
So, what does that file contain? Go into settings and tap the battery label. See that nice graph and the list of apps? THAT is what is in the battery stats file. You'll Anyone with half a brain can find a detailed breakdown of the same information with an app such as better battery stats.
If you're people with any clue how to exist on this earth are willing to actually put forth any effort whatsoever to check this out, you they can find postings from google engineers and several others. I'll be nice and save you these people some effort. How about a post from an actual google employee who works on the android system for a living?
https://plus.google.com/u/0/1050519...dVxPT#105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
If, for some reason, you these bad excuses for intelligent life forms aren't able to read that post (maybe it's too complex to read for a simpleton who likes to spread false information), here are links to several well known android websites which refer to it:
http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
If you anyone really gave a damn about giving accurate information, you they could also download the full android source code and actually see what the file is used for, when it's used, etc.
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Note to the moderators: Yes, this might be "slightly" over the top. However, this forum is still called "xda-developers" and this is a development topic being answered by someone who is, obviously, both clueless and unwilling to learn. Isn't there a video that new users have to watch that basically tells people like that to just go away?
Edit: Updated so that "it's not aimed at an individual but so it's a general message." Hopefully the moderators will pardon my effort - I'm only a poor dumb American and we're only taught "street english" instead of proper Queen's English.
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garyd9 said:
(portions of the quotes removed.)
When I saw your first post (in the first quote here),
Isn't there a video that new users have to watch that basically tells people like that to just go away?
Edit: Updated so that "it's not aimed at an individual but so it's a general message." Hopefully the moderators will pardon my effort - I'm only a poor dumb American and we're only taught "street english" instead of proper Queen's English.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwleOote5M0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Pearlzt said:
I have something weird and i want to ask
My batt sgs3 when charged to 100% in a few second it will become 99% and on a minute it will become 98% and 97% .....and very fast drop ..
But when in 70% if u want drop it to 40% its normal drop rate .. not very fast ...(for me )
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My apologies to the OP - it was a bit rude of me to take over this thread ripping someone a new one without at least attempting to help the original poster...
First of all, are you using the stock firmware? In other words, did you change the firmware to anything other than what was preinstalled on the phone or what was pushed to the phone by the provider?
When you going into Settings->About Device, what is listed as the build number?
What kinds of applications do you have installed on the device? Would you be willing to wipe the phone (factory reset) and test the battery with no extra apps installed and no accounts (other than the google account) configured? (This is a simple way to determine if its the phone itself or "something else")
What you are experiencing is NOT normal. However, there are literally thousands of possible causes for it. Another poster suggested installing Better Battery Stats and using that wonderful tool to see what's going on. (Search for "BetterBatteryStats" here on XDA... the first thread in the search results should be to a thread dedicated to that application.)
Take care
Gary