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please rom cookers have a look .can u guys cook rom for our device by this method .
if we got success in this matter no device will be bricked.
i m not so aware of technical terms .so i cant advice u guys!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520009
sorry for my bad english
i hope u will understand what i want to say
thanks!!!!!!!!
We are aware of this system, but right now, the system is under testing and not fully working. Rest assured when it becomes fully ready and if its possible to use it on gene, we will definately use it.
I said if it is possible, because, on gene, the concept of ULDR partition doesn't exists as far as i know. And ULDR partition is an integral component of that system. ULDR was most probably introduced in WM 6.1 but since Gene is a WM 6 device, it doesn't have the parition layout entry for ULDR. I could be wrong, this is just what my logic says based on my current information.
Also, it wont prevent bricking, as for the system to work, you will need to flash a ROM that supports the ULDR partition and the update system itself, before anything else. For that, you will need to patch your SPL as cooked ROMS will never have the HTC's digital signature. And as we know, patching the SPL is the reason behind all the bricking mess.
But anyways, thanks a lot for sharing
Double Post!
Will it ever work?
I have read the thread sometime back, but I have a few queries...
1. When you upgrade your OS from, say 98 to XP or XP to Vista, there always is a performance issue (compared to formatting your hard drive and doing a fresh install). And since our WinMo are nothing but hand held PCs (well you can say that, it got a processor, a hard disk (ROM), RAM), I guess that issue will crop up here as well.
2. What will happen if you have a 3rd party s/w which is incompatible with the new version of WM? Those of you who are in the PC tech field for a long time, you know after you have upgraded your OS, you can't use that software, neither can you uninstall it ...
So there will be issues, if I am not wrong.
But thats only my opinion. Most pple here are head and shoulders above me technically .
@Addicted: Well, Here are my opinions on your queries :
1. Yes, if the registry of the PPC is having some problems, then it will be an issue. Its a bigger issue in PCs as compared to PPCs coz in PCs the software are huge in size and they write thousands of entries to registry, modify system files etc. SO when an upgrade occurs, these changes either cause a corrupted registry, or in the second case when system files had been modified or replaced by a program, these files will be again updated by the OS and the program may not work, and if its a system level program with deep roots in system functionality, it will cause the system to slowdown at least or crash at worse.
These issues dont affect PPC much coz, for one, PPC software are usually small, they dont write much in registry (ms office on pc for example on PC writes a few thousand keys to registry while registering COM servers etc while MS Office on PPC just adds 10 or 20), and since the OS files are in ROM, they cant be touched by a software. They will remain overridden, if they have beem overridden as the updating process doesn't touch the phone memory.
2. Think again buddy, this is not applicable for WinMO. When you flash a ROM, you already change your OS version, so that will happen anyway, if you flash a ROM or you use the update system on an existing ROM.
I hope this would have cleared your doubts.
krazy_about_technology said:
2. Think again buddy, this is not applicable for WinMO. When you flash a ROM, you already change your OS version, so that will happen anyway, if you flash a ROM or you use the update system on an existing ROM.
I hope this would have cleared your doubts.
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Actually you did not get me about the second issue, what I was trying to say is, if you flash your ROM, you incompatible program will be deleted (obviously) and thus free up space, but if you upgrade, your program will still take up space but will be of no use to you. Since most of the programs in Winmo are stored in Windows folder itself, it will be next to impossible for 99% users to identify the files to delete .
i already talk about image update in visual kitchen for gene thread, all this take lots time. da_g bepe and lots senior ppl are working on this its required new kitchen new rom format
as per i know it's required more rom space which not possible on gene rom
thanks !!!!!! guys for taking interest.
i like it because i have bricked my gene 4 times and got new motherboard.
but now my phone is not in under warranty so i cant take more risk.
i have done all methods correctly but unfortunately i was failed every time .
so after a year of trying i m still using wm5. so i want a new method without
zero risk for updating my rom.
Sorry buddy, but I dont think you can damage ur MB by wrong flash .
hi guyz..
i just needed a big help and dont kno if startng throught this thread is right way.. cos i didnt find neother way ...
i was the user of i phone but seeing htc hd2 i fell in luv wiud it as it has a wonderful graphci n big screen but wen i used it i didnt find much gud and evn it didnt had games wid good graphic but now there are many rom so i justneedd help that how to upgrade mine with the new andriod rom.. plss plsss help me ill give the details of my phone down , please give me the right procedure to have best rom as i tried many roms sometims sucesful too but nt so gud....
i bought my phone from uae dubai which CPU - QUALCOMM(R)8250,, SPEED - 1024MHZ,, RAM - 448MB, FLASH SIZE - 512MB,, DATABUS - 32 BITS,, STORGE - 160MB,, OS VERSION - 5.2.21869(21869.5.0.82),, MANILA - 2.5.19211619.0,, RADIO VERSION - 2.10.50.08_2,, PROTOCOL - 15.37.50.07U,,
THIS IS THE INFORMATION ABT THE FONE.PLSS HELP ME WITH THE GUD ANDRIOD ROOM ATLEAST ON WHICH ARE GOOD GAMES COMPARING TO I PHONE AND ALSO I CUD PLAY POKER .... THANXS A LOTTT..
plsss anyone who cud just give a couple of min and tel me the full produre to get andriod rom.pls reply
Firstly, thanks for putting so much information about your phone.
All you need to do is go to the Android ROM section for the HD2 on here and select an ROM you like the look of. The chef of the ROM gives instructions on how to get Adnroid running.
You are not flashing Android to your phone, but actually running it from the SD Card. You download the files into a folder called Android in the root of the SD Card. Then you run two files in this folder. WinMo will shut down and reboot into Android (this initial boot will take about 20 minutes).
There is also an app in that section which gives you the option to switch between operating systems at bootup - this is installed in WinMo.
The only problem I have found is the first boot back to WinMo is that the time and date was totaly wrong. That problem disapeared the next time.
I won't recomend which ROM to use, as I haven't used Android that much and what I might like you may not.
thnxs for replyng but just tel me as there r too mny options ..i just need help tht wht rom wil b suitble for mine as it says tht u have 2 hve rom 10.6 or 201. sumthng like tht..
n i think i cudnt find tht andriod section for hd2..cus u give me a link plss
The only real requirement is to have a RADIO 2.8.50 or above (of the .50 type) - which you already have on your phone.
* HERE * is the one I used. I downloaded '512MB data.img' and 'DOWNLOAD v. 4.6'. I unzipped them and placed the files in 'Android' in the root of the SD Card. Used file explorer on the phone to run "CLRCAD.exe" then "haret.exe". The phone then booted into android. It looks good and runs well, although I haven't fully tested it. If you want to replace it with another, then simply replace the Android Folder.
I'm not giving you answers but i wanted to advise you :
When you use correct grammer and spelling, Good English, you will get more attention and more people will answer your question
yes thnk u soo much it wrkd but battry drains very fast..and why does it goes bck to htc sense after everytime its off.....do i need to run haret al the time after i switch it on?? arnt there any method where i can let it be on andriod ..??
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The only real requirement is to have a RADIO 2.8.50 or above (of the .50 type) - which you already have on your phone.
* HERE * is the one I used. I downloaded '512MB data.img' and 'DOWNLOAD v. 4.6'. I unzipped them and placed the files in 'Android' in the root of the SD Card. Used file explorer on the phone to run "CLRCAD.exe" then "haret.exe". The phone then booted into android. It looks good and runs well, although I haven't fully tested it. If you want to replace it with another, then simply replace the Android Folder.
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n just give me lst help please..even if i do the step all the time after every reboot, i was wondering if i start downloading app and other things through andriod thne wil those app wil remain and recover after i do the update setup of andriod ..wil it goes back to same??
ahmadmeraj said:
n just give me lst help please..even if i do the step all the time after every reboot, i was wondering if i start downloading app and other things through andriod thne wil those app wil remain and recover after i do the update setup of andriod ..wil it goes back to same??
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your android system will remain the same, apps, contacts and all, every time you reboot - if you do not upgrade/update your android files.
And yes, you do need to go thru the same steps every time you reboot your phone. Run CLRCAD, then HARET.
There are a couple of autoload/booters floating around the forums. I personally use m_skip's autoloader (do a search, sorry, I don't have the link)
And yes, android does use up the battery pretty fast. There are a lot of helps to stop this - but you need to do your own searching on that in the android threads
k8108 said:
your android system will remain the same, apps, contacts and all, every time you reboot - if you do not upgrade/update your android files.
And yes, you do need to go thru the same steps every time you reboot your phone. Run CLRCAD, then HARET.
There are a couple of autoload/booters floating around the forums. I personally use m_skip's autoloader (do a search, sorry, I don't have the link)
And yes, android does use up the battery pretty fast. There are a lot of helps to stop this - but you need to do your own searching on that in the android threads
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thnxs a lot for ur help..but the u tube is nt working everytime i clik a video it says video canoot be played
I'm mostly a business user and neither Android or WP7 can fully do what poor little 6.5 can do as of now.
I did search this & saw in a link in:
HTC Leo: HD2HD2 Windows Phone 7HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A and General
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922030
but I thought that since 6.5 would have to be ported to an SD card, this topic shoould be in HD2 6.5 section? So I thought I'd start a thread here for any news or updates....
I know Cotulla/DFT is working on it. I would imagine there'd be a great interest in this. I personally can't wait.
Also a Question:
If/when it is ported, would a ROM have to be specifically made for each port i.e. Dutty ROM or KWBR ROM or would you be able to drop any ROM onto SD card?
I guess with 300,000+ subscribers I'm the only one....
lbjohnny said:
I guess with 300,000+ subscribers I'm the only one....
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No, man. I also eagerly wait, but i will be patient to wait, unless I can give a hand and help the devs
silverwind said:
No, man. I also eagerly wait, but i will be patient to wait, unless I can give a hand and help the devs
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I'm sorry if i come off as impatient. I'm really not. Just thought if the interest level was high, it would be more likely to happen sooner. I'll live just fine with what i got until it happens.
Me too
Would be great.
"poor little 6.5 can do as of now"....
well in my opinion it's not., my 6.5 is a BEAST! thats why i didnt switch yet to wp7 or android.. winmo 6.5 is the main source of everything stable and fast.. without it there will be no wp7 and android on our hd2..
Hi, I also would like this to happen, as i have inported WP7 to my HD2 which is good but lacks good apps.
As for WP7 im looking for a good sat nav like Tomtom and Copilot live 8, but they both say that they are not making one for WP7.
Thats why I would like to run WP7 and have a SD bootable WM6.5 for Tomtom or Copilot which I had before on my HD2 WM6.5
So please can someone make one
I to think being able to boot Window Mobile 6.5 from SD would be really awsome. We all know that the DFT has annouced they are working on makeing this possible but I beleive this is going to be even harder and take much longer than Andriod did. You have to take into consideration the meir size of the Windows Mobile 6.5 OS is so much bigger than other OS's. So compiling all the code to work in a SD format is going to take time.But if anyonr can do it the DFT are the ones. I really wish there was something I could do to help those vuys out with this venture, but I am not versed enough with writting and compiling code yet to be of any real assistance.
Kudoes to the DFT and all thier hard work.
wm6.5 to sd card
hi,
this is exactly what i wish, i hav tried wp7 on hd2 android sd version, but what makes wm6.5 as my preferd os is
- wm6.5 is less dependant on cellular data connectivity
-ease of access to file system through file explorer and total commonder, though android has evolved from very little to a lot better explore but still u cant beat the wm6.5
- a lot of file and work can be accessed & edited if u wish to work offline
- wp7 & android have made user more dependant on online storage of documents & programs so i feel like being dependant on the online storage
- Most important point is that the progrem setup cabs can be saved on the device and it gives the ease and conveniance to install mod or work back to user coustomization without the need to connect to the desktop/laptop or data connection.
So all in all wm6.5 is still preferable as a choice as one of the os if there is dual boot(in my case wp7&wm6.5 dual boot)
all i can say is though i do like wp7 but until it gives evolves to the freedom & ease offer wm6.5 i think we feel the need of having wm6.5 sd port/rom.
if any developer will be working on porting wm6.5 to sd card i will be happy to contribute to him.
Please if any developer is already doing so then kindly point me to that place
My gut feeling is this won't happen :-(
saving setups
@pinkjpr: there's a solution for your last problem, though it's a bit complicated. Install your program via the marketplace. Then also need ASTRO file manager (probably other tools, maybe even free ones, will be suitable as well). Now go to tools-->SD-Backup Manager (or something like that, can't remember the name). Chose the program you want to backup, click the "save" button (or similarly named). Now you can use the search function to look up your newly created apk (distinguish between them via date of creation). Tap and hold +send via mail or connect your phone to the PC and copy the apk on your computer.
The first step (Backup Manager) isn't always necessary.
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@pinkjpr: there's a solution for your last problem, though it's a bit complicated. Install your program via the marketplace. Then also need ASTRO file manager (probably other tools, maybe even free ones, will be suitable as well). Now go to tools-->SD-Backup Manager (or something like that, can't remember the name). Chose the program you want to backup, click the "save" button (or similarly named). Now you can use the search function to look up your newly created apk (distinguish between them via date of creation). Tap and hold +send via mail or connect your phone to the PC and copy the apk on your computer.
The first step (Backup Manager) isn't always necessary.
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Anon1811:-
My friend, u r missing my point,. please correct me if i m wrong, but apk files are for android os, just like the cab files in wm6.x, and i am referring about wm6.x & wp7,
secondly most of the android applications are web based and advertizement sponcered so u need a working data connection to use most of them (i m not saying all of them). & that brings u back to working internet data, and if u are in a remote location where u dont have network then u hav only limited functionality& cant use most of apps, so the device is more like a flash light or a paper waight,
finally about customization, i am not saying backup restoration, i am saying a fresh installation with what ever apps u want to use again and leave the ones u dont wish to,
and lastly u are saying to connect to PC/Laptop, so again u must carry ur laptop with you so u back to the dependence on PC & data connectivity
i think u havent explored windows mobile for long so u are underestimating its potential compared to android
Hey Folks,as u read: I am totally new to android.
But here are some facts about me I'll tell you just to say sorry for dumbp questions right at the beginning.
I have a good base of Linux knowlege and i also always was modding my phones. If it was my Motorola Razr v3i or my Rhodium Windows 6.5.
Most important: I REALLY dont want others to make MY work. Dont missunderstand me: Some People just dont have the ability to make that on their own and i think, they needed to be helped too, but not me. I want to learn it and i CAN learn it.
But sorry if I post a question in the wrong Forum or ask questions wich have been answerted pretty often. My Problem ist not to read or speak english: It is to imagine the words I need to use for google and stuff to find my answeres. So, some hints, tips or links to Howtos or stuff woud help me alot.
Burt here the bunde of my most important questions:
It all started with Adobe Flash. I guess my Pad has a arm6 or 7 CPU... it has 600mhz and i found a version for that here on xda- i installed it and its working so far for the adobe flv player and swf files but not as an plugin 4 the reguar browser or dolphin hd. any suggestions?
I also wanted to download teamspeak 3. it seems, there i have the same problem. it tells me, my device is incomatible at the market. So is there a way to get it anywhere else and my to recompile it and patch it to work?
next: i tried to root my device using androot and also z4root. it goes through the process without errors and everything seems to be fine but sshdroid tells me, root is disabled. the access to some locations of the phone still is denied and so i cant install nandroid for backups and before i will go on, i REALLY shoud install an backup solution, right folks?
Well- for the first, thats it. if i know that i guess, the rest is more easy to find out on myself as it is right noe.
Again: You dont need to make my work. sorry and thanks at once && greetings from ?good? ol' germany. Alex
well- one thing i also coud need some help... i was searching arround how 2 set my phone for data2ext4 ... but if i wont get running my phone rooted, i can forget about that, cant I? my card already hav an 4GB ext4 partition beside a 12GB FAT partition
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Windows Equivalent of Linux = Android
yes, really what it needs to be done is
BRING ORIGINAL LINUX TO THOSE "BRICKS" CALLED android phones
this 'android' thing is just a bunch of googles spy utility and nothing more. See wht silly limitations are there in this android are
> u cant connect to ad-hoc wifi bcos android dont support (or bcos the google jst dont want it to)
> u can share phone net but cant share pc net (ya, must b google didnt wanted it, i know there r workarounds but why not a simple clik thing ?)
> u need to root it to get REAL access to phone, (n to protect ur privacy which is "illegal") (silly isnt it? I paid for the phone n I own it. I mst hav access to its os just as I hav with pc, that simple)
> uncontrolled ADs pour into ur phone (jst cursed bcos u dnloaded a "free" app)
> mfr making screen larger n google 'eats-up' that by blocking precious part of it jst for useless buttons (dont they hav slight sense of product design ?)
> u need to change the brick to upgrade it to newer version, haah, man give me a break... (google have beaten MS, even Windows was able to upgrade for couple of versions with same hardware)
> why we need some "corporate toy" to curse us, at our expense
LET'S BRING BACK THE REAL LINUX IN OUR PHONES